#Janeway is always killing herself for the crew but Tuvok is right there beside her

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[Tuvok & Janeway: Control, Distance, Duty & Connection.] Sources: St Voyager Transcripts / Mitski 'First Love Late Spring' / Disco Elysium

#web weaving #star trek web weaving #st voyager #Kathryn Janeway #Tuvok #be the change you want to see in the world - make a long post about Tuvok & Janeway's similarities <- angel on my shoulder #I feel like a lot of people see them as 'opposites attract' sort of friends where Janeway is unhinged & Tuvok reigns her in #but in reality I think that while there is that element in there (exacerbated HEAVILY by their delta quad circumstances) #what I see most in their relationship is how they both value loyalty and duty above all and are extremely rigid with themselves #and the people around them. How they both have to maintain distance from others bc of their positions as captain & vulcan #I hate when people dismiss Tuvok as not being remotely interested in Maryana or Noss - it erases an interesting struggle that he and Janewa #both share - their desire to stay loyal to their spouses vs the 70 years of loneliness that that loyalty demands of them #But they BOTH triumph and they BOTH remain loyal (Tuvok until he returns to T'Pel and Janeway until Mark informs her that it's over) #and for both of them it's a little bit insane for them to do that. #Isn't it more interesting that Janeway and Tuvok both have feelings for people other than their spouses but don't give in #to that temptation? #They're both people who live very fastidiously by codes. Either written codes or moral codes - they very rarely if ever do things because #it's what THEY want to do. I'd say they're the least emotion-driven members of the crew and yes I'm including Seven because Seven #has a very...how to describe? It's a blunt and insular selfishness. She does what SHE wants to do and doesn't really care about others. #To me that's emotion-driven. Or...personal desire-driven? Not a bad thing at all but very different from Janeway & Tuvok who #are always more 'this is logical' or 'this is for the crew' rarely do they think 'this is what I want' bc they can't afford to #for different reasons (captain & vulcan) #they both also are in the most 'caretaking' positions on the ship from my POV. Security and Captain - both are directly in charge of #ship and crew safety. #Janeway & Tuvok #star trek voyager #st voy #when I say caretaking I'm NOT saying they're everyone's mom and dad or whatever - I'm saying they're in positions where they always #have to think about the greater good and the crew as a whole and how much danger is acceptable etc etc. #Janeway is always killing herself for the crew but Tuvok is right there beside her

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@plushchrome1212 I haven’t yet, but now I’m excited for it!! I just finished Episode 5 “The Cloud” but was struck by the previous episode “Phage” wherein Janeway emotionally explains that she cannot kill this person to save Neelix, despite them removing his lungs in the first place. The concept of karmic justice doesn’t exist here, a “Well, you got yourself into this mess so my hands are clean no matter what I do.” Of course they wouldn’t be. But more than just the extreme of killing him to save her crewmate, she works out that any punishment is off the table. She recognizes that, under the circumstances, she does not have the ability to dole out an appropriate consequence for this (even if she were to agree that it’s right for her to play jury in that manner). They’re trying to get back home with a minimum of 75 years ahead of them... and she’s not willing to say that keeping them in the brig, on a dangerous mission, where they will inevitably die far from their own home is an appropriate response to their crime, especially given the horror that drove them to this. So she shoulders the potential pushback of “How could you just let them go?” 

Granted, she doesn’t get that pushback both because the two aliens assist in saving Neelix and her crew has a good understanding of her already--catch me crying about Tuvok saying he’s spent years analyzing her psychology--but the risk of the decision was always there, to say nothing of condemning Neelix to uphold that morality. Up until they save him, Janeway has to live with herself and, as a viewer, that’s damn compelling. 

And while I’m on the subject of praising Janeway I am in love with how compassionate they’ve made her. I mean yes, of course every Star Trek captain is compassionate, but I was afraid going in that as the first (?) woman captain leading a show they might have pushed really far in the Tough Woman direction. Not that there’s anything inherently wrong with that personality, just that it’s become a pretty tired trope over the years: woman in a male dominated space has had to become cold and ruthless to demand authority, often downplaying her femininity in the process. She’s just ~one of the guys~ until an episode where someone teaches her (usually another man...) that it’s okay to let go. So it’s not only overdone, but makes little sense for Star Trek’s context wherein they’re supposed to be an enlightened civilization largely past these problems. The audience of the mid 90′s may not have been totally used to a woman as captain, but the characters of Star Trek should be. It’s unremarkable for them. So the fact that she’s just so happy and casual and free feels like such a breath of fresh air. She loves her dog, her bun is a disaster, she’s laughing over your joke, hustling you at pool, nearly crying at a hard decision, putting her foot down, sneaking snacks, learning about Chakotay’s culture with a childlike joy, and “There’s coffee in that nebula!” She’s allowed to be such a well-rounded character from the second she appears on screen and I’m completely here for it. 

Also, I won’t bore you with any more rambling, but besides Janeway, you know who else is stealing my heart? 

This holographic dude 

When I say I’d die for this cast I really mean I’d die for this cast they’re so good someone help me

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