#also cue reid a season later crying ‘my mom has alzheimers and nobody in the world understands what im going thru’

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I’m watching 10x20 and “I make a mistake, a change of clothes fixes that. You make a mistake, and I lose my daughter” Jesus CHRIST and also how did Roy know that Haley basically died because of hotch🤨🤨 he’s not wrong but how did he Know

roy probably knew at least a little about the situation when haley went into witness protection; with his daughter and grandchild in hiding for who knows how long and his ex-son-in-law’s face splayed over the papers, im sure even if that was all he knew that it would be enough to realize this was hotch’s fault. hotch also doesnt seem like someone who would try to hide it. i bet he probably pulled roy aside at/around the funeral and told him what happened. considering he already knew haley’s struggles with hotch’s work, plus hotch likely taking more of the blame than he should, it’s not surprising for roy to hold hotch responsible for his daughter’s death

thats genuinely such a fucked up line tho oh my god akdhsjd roy was NOT pulling his punches with that one. but again, im not really surprised that he would grow bitter and resentful towards the easiest target—especially since hotch blames himself for it too. he hates himself for what happened nearly as much as roy does. (its also highly probably that roy blames himself as well, thinking “why did i let her get involved with him,” and “why couldnf i protect my own daughter.” hotch is an outlet for roy’s guilty conscience—something he likely already knows and accepts as part of his penance. he doesnt think he deserves to be forgiven, and he’s not so cowardly as to make excuses).

im not sure if its more or less fun if hotch had always had a strained relationship with roy, or if the gap between them came from anger and bitterness over this tragedy. theres a special kind of drama that comes from haley’s father/family not approving her marriage. if haley and jess spent their time defending hotch from their parents’ scrutiny, i think it adds an extra layer of hurt for roy, jess, AND hotch when roy gets to say “i told you so” at his daughter’s grave. but i think theres also something to be said about roy and hotch having a relatively normal relationship (likely distanced since the divorce, but still not at the point of outright hatred), but this even being enough to completely shatter that. im never quite sure which one is more interesting: especially given what we know about roy’s good nature. has hotch always been on roy’s bad side or has hotch finally done enough to earn the wrath of a good man?

#it was really interesting for them to add more about the consequences of foyet’s attack five years later #and how even in death foyet is still affecting hotch’s life #its a reminder to us that hotch has NEVER let this go—and that the people around him havent either #asks #aaron hotchner #haley #oof and the way roy’s like ‘tbh im fine having alzheimers bc soon i wont remember this pain’ FUCK dude thats wild #also cue reid a season later crying ‘my mom has alzheimers and nobody in the world understands what im going thru’ #as if hotch isnt. right there #just like what happened with maeve lol #n e ways this was v interesting #i always love talking ab hotch’s relationships w others—especially if its bonds that hurt him