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#and im like wow. i could explain all of kirby
realflowey · 4 months
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Sometimes I want to tell my partner the whole kirby lore. Like imagine you wake up and you expect a sweet good morning text. But no, hi, it's me. Don't trust butterflies, the guy at the end of forgotten land reminds me of the zombie snails, and lots of things are sick and twisted and evil. However, Kirby always prevails; And he's happy too, he's happy and he enjoys life despite everything. There are so many amazing wonderful things in the world. He sees the good and the bad and, despite everything. He's just. Himself. I want to tell them that maybe they're kind of like kirby a little. "Things are big and scary and hard. And you're so nice and sweet. You don't always deserve things to be so hard and scary, but you're doing so well. Just like Kirby." That's why I want to explain the kirby lore to my Partner. Because she always deserves to be inspired. To see always see deeper meanings. She is an author after all.. :)
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jestlingnest · 3 years
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Summarize the entire Kirby dream-world plot I need to know what fandom i'm about to try and get into. ( - Fruit Anon )
I'm gonna assume that you're talking about Return to Dreamland and you don't wanna watch the video of all the cutscenes and dialogue I linked, so here I go!
I can also explain the Planet Robobot plot if you are interested, as well as Super Star Ultra. Im working on getting to Triple Deluxe.
Spoilers, obviously.
The game starts out with Kirby, King Dedede, and Bandana Dee all running through Dreamland. Meta Knight is up on a hill reading his book. But then everyone stops and looks up and a huge portal opens up in the sky, a spaceship (that looks like an actual ship) crashing through, parts of it falling off as it falls.
The four of them run over to the wreckage, and walk inside to find this little guy
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He wakes up, and runs over to the control panel of his ship, the Lor Starcutter, to discover vital pieces are missing and the ship can't fly. He's sad about that.
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But Kirby offers to help! And so do his friends! Magolor (that's his name) is thrilled about that, and sends them to collect the five missing pieces of his ship!
This is the actual gameplay part so you gotta go through each area to get to a boss at the end.
First are the oars, guarded by Whispy Woods
Second I THINK is the first wing, guarded by Mr. Dooter
Third is the second wing, guarded by Fatty Puffer
Fourth is the emblem, guarded by a gorilla thing I forget the name of. Sorry dude
And fifth is the sails which seems to be unguarded... Nope! A grand doomer (OH I FORGOT TO MENTION there are rips and holes in time where you gotta go into it to Another Dimension and then you can fight a sphere doomer) is guarding it and you have to have a fight with it.
Magolor has also promised that he can take Kirby and his friends to visit Halcandra! It's really far away, but with the Lor's abilities they can get there super quickly! So off they go!
Everything seems to be going fine, but then suddenly a four headed dragon sees the Lor and is like "nope. die." and shoots it down.
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Fuckin dead.
But Magolor gets up and checks the screen again to see that the dragon Landia is preventing them from going any farther. The Lor can still fly, but not with Landia shooting it down!
Turns out Landia had been asleep for a long time but had recently awoken. Magolor asks Kirby to defeat the dragon, and of course Kirby says yes! The dragon also has a weird looking crown, but that's a surprise tool that will help us later.
So after defeating the metal general in the more mechanized part of Halcandra, Kirby and friends move onto the volcano! Which is the only level I've played myself. I helped my friend play it and it was difficult. Because I IMMEDIATELY GOT THROWN INTO THE (kinda) FINAL AREA!!
Anyway, at the top of the volcano is Landia! Time to fight!
Once the dragon is defeated, everyone cheers! They did it! But then...
Magolor slowly descends from the sky, clapping ominously. Then he says his little speech, which I have memorized.
"Bravo Kirby. You've truly earned your reputation as a hero. Your help defeating Landia was invaluable! Ah... at last, it's mine! The source of limitless power, the Master Crown! Obtaining this crown was my ultimate goal all along! (He picks up the crown, changing into a much bigger and more powerful form) What's with all the weird looks?"
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"Fine, let me explain everything. I tried to fight Landia by myself and lost. So I fled to Planet Popstar. That's when the thought struck me. I could have you defeat Landia for me! A stroke of genius, I know. You even helped me repair my Starcutter! I really did appreciate that by the way. Anyway... MUAHAHAHA! The time as come for the entire planet- No, the entire universe to bow down before me! And for being such a big help in all of this, your planet gets to go first! Prepare to bow, Popstar! Welcome your new overlord!"
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And then he disappears into a portal. This isn't good! But then Landia comes up behind Kirby, knowing that he got tricked. Landia is split into four and takes everyone through the portal to Another Dimension!
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And thats where they fly through, and at the end is Magolor, summoning the Lor Starcutter for them to fight. Each item they helped retrieve is now being used against them!
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(PLEASE IGNORE THE CAT ITS LEFTOVER FROM SOMETHING FUNNY MY FRIENDS AND I WERE DOING)
Once the Starcutter is defeated, Magolor gets pissed and tries to shoot them out of the sky. Meta Knight deflects the attacks, but cant deflect all of them and everyone falls.
Magolor boss fight time. They gotta fight him! It's a pretty cool fight with great music. He has a shield near the end and Kirby has to use super abilities to defeat him. Kirby hits him with that big ass sword multiple times and he basically explodes.
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But wait. He isn't defeated. The crown is making him keep fighting. But not as Magolor anymore.
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You see, the Master Crown's ultimate goal is to find a host. And use that host to create a physical manifestation of itself. And Magolor getting beat up and nearly killed like that just sped up the process. You see how it's wrapping around his entire body? Yeah, ironically for the guy who wanted control, he's the one under control now.
But Kirby still defeats it. The Master Crown shatters, leaving behind a mostly dead Magolor (he is still breathing though) who then disintegrates. He was sent to a dimension between time and space.
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The part of Another Dimension Kirby is in stars collapsing, and Landia gets everyone out of there and they safely return to Dreamland! The end!
That took awhile to type, wow! But yeah, that's the basic plot of RTDL! Hope you enjoyed reading it!
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applekitty · 5 years
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‘game dedede’ is not a good person to ship escargoon with and here’s why
im glad my escargoon analysis resonated with lots of people. i saw some comments on it, which i feel the need to reply to because they’re on my post. a small few comments have been about the main focus of this whole multi paragraph crazed yammering; game dedede
(content warning: i talk about the horror comic killing stalking for four paragraphs. wow i bet this content warning doesn’t give mood whiplash at all)
now, game dedede isn’t much of anything. he’s a non-character, as he has no discernible personality in the games that isn’t really much of anything more than a catalyst for people to project a personality onto. as are all the game characters, because kirby isn’t focused so much on plot and indepth character development as it is about the gameplay. nintendo’s always been good at gameplay,  so they have basically stuck to what they’ve known and sprinkled small plot bits around places and entirely discarded anything other than hints personalities so that way they have an excuse for pure gameplay and fun to occur. it’s the same way with mario, and zelda, and usually basically all of their properties. yes, even pokemon, though usually when pokemon gets too plot heavy we get games like sun and moon, which are basically just cutscenes upon cutsc- 
what was i talking about? oh, right, game dedede.
game dedede is usually seen by the fandom as a variety of things, but the main one is nice. and by nice i mean he is usually portrayed as someone who is typically valorous and is doing the right thing, not someone who is necessarily pleasant, though some like to make him pleasant or jolly. if you know me or have even been on my blog even once on pc you’ll notice the cool deviantart stamp i got from one of my friends. i fully agree with the things it entails; dedede not being your typical uwu ‘do nothing wrong’ monarch that he’s often now plastered as because he did the whole ‘i help this cat’ in rtdl or because he wanted to keep nightmare from coming out of the fountain in nightmare in dreamland and.. whatever the name was of the game that it was a remake of.
people usually want to be able to root for the protagonist, and since dedede was a protagonist and / or in the right in a few occasions, we want to see him as a good guy doing good guy things. and there’s plenty of different ways to take that, as there’s both evidence for and against him being a morally light character. but that’s not really the point of what i’m talking about here. regardless of your own personal opinion on how ‘game dedede’ morally is, he is not a good person for escargoon to be with. there’s a reason why i said someone should be shipping him with an oc rather than game dedede, and it’s precisely because ‘game dedede’, even if he somehow zapped into the anime verse, would not be good to ship with him.
and it’s not based on chemistry or because game dedede is secretly or openly evil or something like that. it’s purely because escargoon is still a victim of abuse. and if you’re someone with a few braincells you want him to get out of that abuse and go find a new husband who’ll love and care for him. for escargoon to get game dedede seems to make sense at first because escargoon is so devoted to the anime one, but when you look at it, it’s not healthy at all.
this is essentially taking escargoon’s old abuser, wiping away all the ‘sins’ of his character just to make it so escargoon can date him. just so he can date an idealized version of his abuser. this person is quite literally just his abuser but with a mental coat of paint. 
allow me to draw comparison.
i’m going to go off here about a comic that i warned about at the top of the post. i’m not going to go too indepth about it due to the sheer nausea i might cause people if i do. it is a rather extreme example sheerly due to the content of said comic, but i can’t think of another better one off the top of my head. there’s a comic named killing stalking which was a big note for socio-political talk i think a few years back. it was a horror comic about a killer and a stalker wherein the murderer takes the stalker in, breaks his legs, and keeps in his house. the stalker, who already had sexual interest in his kidnapper, is abused due to various here and there reasons, and then after a while the comic begins the two’s sexual-romantic yet still abusive relationship. here’s the thing. the two of the characters are both men, so the relationship is gay.
many took to tumblr and various other medias smacking the comic for the display that it created (the comic chock is full of fairly nauseating things that are worth calling disgusting, but are expected of a shock horror comic) and the association it made between gay men and murderers, as well as making gay men look predatory and dangerous. normally said comic wouldn’t have been much of a problem or very noteworthy if it were about a straight pair, but it was about this Evil Gay Murderer Pair, so it was a source of controversy like shit is an attractor of flies.
despite the controversy that the comic had gotten, and the treatment in-canon it had of its characters being very clearly evil and in the wrong and clear deservance of being detracted, something strange happened. not in the comic, but in the people who decided to support said comic. people decided to support it for a number of reasons, one being that ‘oh it’s a horror comic i like horror despite what controversy or effects it may have on people’. i remember seeing it once, on my dashboard, i think. or back in the day when i was trying to figure out what the fuck was going on with this comic that everyone on my dash was just going to town on. people were shipping the two main, gay characters with eachother. and they weren’t doing it in a way that was ‘oh the murderer is so hot look at him in all this blood’ sort of way. it was in a much more.. ‘cozy’ position. it was fluffy. it was shown as cute. at first i thought it was because people were fucking weirdos, but i remember this one caption that has been recalled in perfect paraphrased clarity to me.
‘some people make aus to make their ships more angsty, but i’m out here making mine healthy lol’
people were taking the murderer, the main person who was causing the problems in the comic, and turning him into a loving husband for the stalker (who was shown as very mentally ill and in desperate need of love and attention). people were making the pairing that the comic itself showed as horrifying and awful to be fluffy and cute and devoid of any problems. so that way the victim was no longer hurt. it was an au. the murderer had a new personality, he was a changed man who never hurt anyone, so he was perfect for the stalker. that way, the ship could be had but there would be no issue whatsoever.
and to be quite honest, that’s what we have here. we have an offshoot of that. though obviously the source material is much less dangerous in our case, we still have a victim in desperate need of love in an abusive relationship with someone who hurts them. then, we have people shipping said victim with a new version of that abuser just to wipe the slate clean. just to keep the ship going without anyone objecting to it, because it can all be explained away as an au or what have you. though, i’m sure the ship in killing stalking was very much bashed by people (at least, i hope it was), while this one isn’t.
i can hear my strawman in the replies already going ‘well thanks for the tangent. but ching, game dedede’s a different person. he is legitimately a different canon than anime dedede, meanwhile this is people making things up that the canon doesn’t support. if you dated a twin you won’t apply the sins of the twin on the other one, would you?’ and if this were a real life situation, you’d be correct. 
it’d be wrong to place the sins of one twin onto another sheerly because one was an abusive asshole. but since is a real life scenario, putting a victim of abuse back with someone who looks exactly like their abuser would most certainly create extreme fear and panic in that victim. it wouldn’t matter if one of the twins hasn’t done anything, the potential relationship would forever be ruined and it’d be out of their control. and no one, no self respecting person, should ever have a victim date them if they look exactly like said victim’s old abuser. that’s just asking for mental troubles and constant panic attacks.
but that’s if this were real. it’s not real. this is video games and cartoons. it doesn’t come down to that, it comes down to us and what we decide to do, and what we decide to ship. these are not real people. we are putting them together for our own amusement because you’d think they’d get along. and doing this with a ship like this with game dedede says, to me, "I do not care if it is abusive in canon, I want to ship it anyways without any problems or people calling me out, so I’ll make it so people can’t do that by stripping the abuser of their abusive characteristics and make it so this abusive ship is all sunshine and rainbows". this is especially poignant if escargoon is stripped of all his abuse as well, allowing for him to be shipped more easily. it is quite literally going ‘nope’ when one is confronted with the very real trauma of a character and discarding it. don’t get me wrong, some things in canon should be discarded in some sources of entertainment, but a character’s abuse being discarded entirely for the sake of shipping just does not sit well with me.
of course, people who ship it are absolutely not thinking this maliciously when they ship discountdesuka, but that’s what it is irregardless of what they are thinking.
‘game’ dedede / escargoon is a ‘what could’ve been’ situation. 
it is an idealized version of dedesuka, one which throws a key aspect of escargoon’s out the door purely for the fluff and the cute gay moments that could’ve been. and sadly enough, it’s probably what escargoon dreams and hopes could happen (which is arguable because escargoon gets suspicious whenever dedede is nice to him), but it never does.
i understand why people do it. i know they don’t have some secret plan to be evil by creating secret abusive content that has hidden messages in it so everyone will ship abusive ships or something ridiculous like that, and if you thought that i thought that you’re very wrong. 
in some’s cases (as shown by the tags on my escargoon post), they want to reclaim a relationship which was blatantly homophobic in execution and turn it into something better. others just want a cute ship because their version of ‘game’ dedede is morally better than his anime counterpart, and wouldn’t hurt escargoon. they want to make wholesome content to drown out canon’s shows of abuse and negativity. which is understandable to want, but to show respect to the concepts the show puts out, isn’t something that should be embraced with ‘game’ dedede/escargoon. 
but there is no undoing what anime dedede/escargoon is in the show, and what it means to give escargoon over to ‘game’ dedede instead. ‘game’ dedede / escargoon is not abusive by any initial means, but it is still something that should not be shipped regardless.
it is disrespect to escargoon’s status as an abuse victim to  ship him with the same exact person who abused him and say it’s okay because ‘he has a different personality’. 
i am begging you. please ship escargoon with your oc or some other game character.
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tomatotoa · 7 years
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tbh i think “shiny” could have handled another revision or two, since some aspects of the demo could have been kept, whereas the version that made the movie focuses more on “wow im so shiny” than “if you had something shiny then maybe i wouldn’t kill you” and i feel that that removed an important thread of this is a negotiation which made the seem feel a little more ~*~random~*~ on a first viewing. so analyzing the lyrics is always a bit dodgy since the song itself merits some criticism...
but let’s get right into talking about the lyrics anyway!
the monsters see my weaponry and flee
this line doesn’t make much sense to me, but i interpret it as “look at all the weapons on my back from my fallen foes; this demonstrates i am a fearsome opponent and monsters dont fuck with me”, which is consistent with hcs that assert tamatoa CAN live in opulence and comfort bc monsters dont come around his lair ever, because he has demonstrated that he is powerful and dangerous.
your powers will be mine, mine, mine
a lot of ppl are interpreting this as “tamatoa is going to eat maui and then absorb his powers like majin buu or kirby or some shit” and im down with that tbh? but it doesn’t show up in the final version of the song and i think that was done for reasons im about to explain
this line, to me, implies that maui’s powers weren’t so entangled with the hook in earlier writing drafts. maui DOES have powers of his own -- superhuman strength, blowing with GALE WIND FORCES, holding his breath for a very long time (or even breathing underwater) given that he “can do anything but float” yet survived te ka slapping him straight into the sea -- and that tamatoa can acquire the powers of others by eating them.
but in the final version of the film, it seems much more like maui and the hook have a symbiotic relationship -- together, they unlock maui’s powers, but the powers granted to him by the hook can’t necessarily be used when someone else wields it. the hook is like a conduit for maui’s powers, almost. and tamatoa never once wields it, which if it’s as strong as we’re lead to believe, i don’t see why he wouldn’t unless he can’t?
also like. i feel like the reason tamatoa doesn’t just eat the hook is really simple and just boils down to... it’s huge and barbed and if he tried to eat it he would choke on it and it would be stuck in his throat lmao
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