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#and it’s not lost on me that the spider-people casting out Miles is p much exactly how the (white) fandom treats him
the-woman-upstairs · 1 year
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God, of COURSE the reaction to “Anyone can wear the mask” is “but not everyone will accept that.” And Miles internalizing the heartbreak of that kind of rejection from what he considered (hoped) to be HIS people leads to him understanding the next step is to reject the system that says he doesn’t belong.
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greensagephase · 5 months
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can we have a rundown of readers relationships with all the characters as of chapter 11? :P like what she thinks of them and where she stands with all of em individually?
I wanted to reply to this sooner but I'm in the middle of editing and both this ask and part 11 turned out longer than intended (someone needs to take my laptop away from me, especially after part 11 😭) but here it is! I hope it gives you a clear picture, though some friendships I haven't really thought of as much as others (sorry). I also want to clear up that part 11 takes place a few months before the Thanksgiving drabble. Part 11 takes place sometime in May, early June, two months after Miguel's near death experience.
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Just to get it out of the way, reader loves everyone in the friend group! They're her found family and she's grateful that they've welcomed and taken her in as part of the friend/family group! She wouldn't be where she is now mentally if it wasn't for them! And without Miguel, too since she tells him things she doesn't share with others. The Spider Society has changed her and given her a support system! 🥺
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★Peter B.: She sees Peter as a kind of friend/father ish figure? You can tell from their interactions from when Miguel was in the infirmary, the way he comforts her is kind of father ish but there's still the friend element. Lots of respect for him. She loves that Peter got a second chance with MJ and now he has his little family.
★Jess: Reader sees her as a mentor and friend. Reader has a lot of respect for her! She's grateful to Jess for recruiting her into the Spider Society and not giving up after reader rejected the invitation the first few times. She wouldn't have her found family if Jess hadn't insisted.
★Miles: Out of all the other teenagers, reader has the strongest sibling sense with him in my head. It's supported by the way Miles's parents have taken her in by inviting her into their home and their family gatherings. They show her parent love sometimes, even though she's an adult and Miles also treats her like an older sibling, so he's truly like her little brother!
★Gwen: She's like reader's teenage sister. She can tell when Gwen is down, especially when Gwen thinks back to when she lost her version of Peter and what happened with her dad, so reader gets her to talk and cheers her up with something she baked.
★Pav: I love Pav and Hobie as new additions to the cast (obviously Miguel is included in this....), so I always have reader interacting with the two of them somehow. Pav is like a little brother, too! She hears him out whenever he needs to talk about Gayatri (both good and bad, though Pav and Gayatri never have bad moments, I don't think?), which reader also loves! She visits Pav's universe a lot and sometimes asks for hair advice from him. Reader usually sits with him and Hobie above the cafeteria watching other spider members. She just listens and watches as Pav mentions how "the chemistry is palpable" between certain spider members. He's always right...
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★HoBiE!: Same as Pav but with Hobie there's a little difference because of Hobie's slightly older age. He seems like the type of person who can read people very well and reader is no exception. When she tries to play off something, he pushes her to be honest (same way he did with Gwen when she didn't tell Miles everything regarding the Spider Society and all of that). There was actually a deleted scene in part 9 when everyone shows up at the infirmary at the end (that made the cut) and he asks her if Miguel knows how he was found yet (reader's spidey senses going off and her actually finding him). She gets a little defensive and tells Hobie that she'll tell Miguel if he asks her, saying it's not important now that Miguel is safe. Pav is there, too and at reader's defensiveness, him and Hobie share a knowing look. Hobie's like the one that knows something is going on underneath the surface between reader and Miguel, at this point lowkey, and he gets worried that Miguel will end up hurting reader by pushing her away. Reader loves Hobie even if sometimes he pushes her out of her comfort zone by making her speak up or so, when she usually wouldn't.
★Margo: Same as Gwen, she's like a sister to reader. Reader always tries to cheer Margo up because she knows about her family life (I hope it gets better in the future). She offers her apartment as a place to stay if Margo needs to get away for a bit. It was mentioned in part 8 that Margo goes to sleep very late (I don't know why but Margo struck me as a night owl lol) and reader respectfully tells her to get proper rest because she gets worried about her. Reader wishes she could do more for Margo.
★Porker: Good friends with him. He let's her borrow some of his weapons he carries around because of his hammerspace, which reader finds fascinating (also the fact he can float in midair when he smells food?). Finds his universe interesting. One of his counterparts has beef with her. No, I won't elaborate right now.
★Noir: Sometimes the other spider members (not in the friend group) tease him about not being able to see colors or by the way he talks because of his time period, and reader defends him (this is when reader stands up). When they play board games on Friday nights and the colors matter she helps him! He really likes her apartment and loves her baking, which she's always happy to bake for (Noir gives me sweet tooth vibes). Also, he loves the fact that reader has her Peter's record player because, you know of his time period, so she loves telling him about her own Peter's music collection.
★Peni: She's also like a sister to reader. She noticed Peni likes to eat sweets when she works, so she always takes her little snacks. She's one of the youngest in the friend group so reader sees her as a little sister. Reader also loves Peni's robot and she admires Peni's abilities (girl literally made/fixed, I can't remember, a goober in ITSV so reader is always impressed.)
★Ben Reilly: I'm including him because I love him, too!! There's not many interactions with him and reader in the story but in the background they talk. They go on missions and work together. She has learned about his past and is more understanding towards him than other members are and because of that he really likes her... ★Lyla: She pushes reader's buttons sometimes but is that surprising? She still asks questions to reader when she's organizing the lab or working on the reports. Reader does love her though! She knows Lyla has kept Miguel company on days when he had no one else so for that, reader is very thankful. They have a little banter that sometimes makes Miguel wonder if Lyla would happily ditch him to work with reader 100% but he's not bothered by it though because it's reader and well...
★Miguel: He's her friend and confidant. She shares things with him she hasn't shared with the others. Her friend group is her found family, and Miguel is her best friend, though neither have said it yet but like, they keep referring to each other as "close friends" so... Loves spending time with him, especially outside of HQ! Still goes on missions with him and they sneak to the tallest building when they're done collecting anomaly matter. They eat paletas payaso and other Mexican candy that Miguel keeps hidden in his lab just for them just for her. 🤭She's very grateful that Miguel has opened up to her and trusts her with things he, too, has never shared with anyone else. She wishes she could comfort him in more ways but she's patient with him and respects his boundaries. She knows one day she might be able to but for now she comforts him however she can. They spend more time together now that they work on the reports and have dinners at each other's places. Finds his presence comforting. Loves his cooking! She'd do anything to see him happy again and for him to have his old life back.🥺 Wishes she could've met him when he had Gabriella and his wife. Wants to see him smile and laugh, like his true smile and laugh because she knows what she sees and hears is still somewhat reserved but she loves what she gets already because she knows no one else gets to see/hear him like this. She loves him as a close friend/best friend... for now.
I think that's everyone? Let me know if I missed someone! And I'm sorry for just replying! I didn't think it was going to take this long to write lol!
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