#and jaded and in a shitty dystopia or not. i feel buffy would have never done that. yeah she didn't mean any of her witty remarks but it

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You know what else is so stupid about how Bangel was handled in "Buffy the Last Vampire Slayer" (or not handled--or not handled well, I mean)?

How there they completely contradict the "their love transcends everything" quote that J*oss Whedon said about them. (And if you're confused by what he meant by "transcends" think "overcomes" or "endures.")

And hate J*oss all you want, I know I do. But if you're completely contradicting something the creator of the series did with the couple, that was a fundamental aspect of it, you have writing problems.

There's just no way Angel would have ever left Buffy. At least not unless it was for a "you're better off from me or a this will somehow save you or the world" reason.

And I think we all thought that that was where the story was going, and they so could have easily done that: like, that for some strange reason for the sun to come back, Buffy and Angel couldn't be together or something (since maybe he got a prophecy that Spike and Buffy together figured out the problem, and he couldn't be in Buffy's life when that happened and those two needed to be together for it. I'm just spitballing here). But then they didn't even give us that!

Also, Angel totally would have shown up at the end to help in the Big Fight to save the world--regardless of his and Buffy's relationship, as he'd done time and time again in the series--because that's just who he is. He's a champion. (He and Buffy could have had a cute "No matter what, I always have your back." "I know. Me, too" moment, like Max and Logan's from Dark Angel.)

And I've said in other posts before, that you had other writers of the series saying how Angel, no matter what, would always show up to help Buffy. And then this was contradicted, too. Again: writing problems.

I know that Casey Gilly is a S*puffy shipper, and there was surely some bias there that led to things going down this way. But you can have that S*puffy ending without completely destroying A*ngel's character, B*angel, and everything that's been established in canon to do so.

#as it stands i'll forever be mad at what buffy the last vampire slayer did #and every time i think i've put it behind me it creeps up and annoys me again #this is all just so stupid imo. i thought writers had learned long ago that making one love interest look bad to prop up another is bad #writing #and it's actually better to make love interests great so you're even more moved when the person makes the choice that they did #like 'wow. this person had two GREAT choices and they still chose you. that says a lot and they must really love you' #like... it's not nearly bad as love never dies of course. and yet i'd be lying if i said this didn't give me love never die feelings and #make me think of the raoul character assassination there #and even outside of the angel and bangel stuff i actually have a lot of other issues with buffy the last vampire slayer too #like how i sort of felt like we were glorifying joyce way too much in the end. when. tbh. she was kind of a horrible mom #i also kind of thought that buffy's slayer essence going to heaven and her not (if i read that right) was kind of weird and maybe too easy? #and looking back on it... i feel like how mean buffy was to thessaly was actually ooc and kind of uncalled for #and jaded and in a shitty dystopia or not. i feel buffy would have never done that. yeah she didn't mean any of her witty remarks but it #still doesn't make it better for me. actually scratch that. late into the series she says she doesn't even like thessaly to anya #and there are even other things #i've said this in other posts... but i feel spike had no flaws in this maybe because casey gilly loves him so much and that colored her #writing of him. granted this series is short. so perhaps she didn't have time to get into them #but when you compare to how flawed she made buffy. that irks me #i also don't like how i feel she tried to say that all of buffy's relationships falling apart were her fault for not trying enough? #like looking back i don't know if i liked how she handled or characterized buffy at all #and i also like thessaly... but i don't get why she decided to write thessaly based on all of willow's worst qualities #those are casey gilly's exact words. that's a word choice/take to me #all of this is kind of why--again: like i've said in other posts--i might be done with the new buffy stuff the original writers haven't #touched #because they don't seem to Get It #joss whedon tw