#and we end up with supreme leader who wants to get rid of crusts that's why she invades the continent

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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't FE15 state that although god's control is removed, there's still evil in mankind's heart that must be vanquished or something along those lines? It kinda makes the whole "humanity f*ck yeah" shtick feel hypocritical doesn't it?

Yep,

Because FE15 couldn't nuke FE2 from its DNA, by virtue of being a remake.

So we have two, contradictory messages in this game : Duma BaD and Gods BaD and must go because BaD and they "make humans do BaD things"...

and you have the "gods might be bad, but humans are still BaD without their influence" message at the end - when the entire game (and the timeline and supplementary materials!!) has been pushing the first message.

So...

In a sea of "Gods BaD" waters coming from the remake, you still have the lone "evil remains in the hearts of men" raft that is, somehow, pushed to the forefront in Part 6 where both Celica AND Alm call Thabes the result of human folly, and the player knowing that Grima - who was originally the RED CAPSLOCK eldritch monstruosity before FEH retcon'd them in a tits'n'ass character to uwu about by stealing Anankos' backstory - was "man-made".

And yet, given how the "last word" about FE15 - as in last material revealed - was the timeline in the Memorial Book, we close FE15's book by "and Duma was BaD".

I mean, look at all those mentions of Rudy being so brave and strong and uwusome -> Duma's degenaration is directly tied to how awesome Rudy needs to be in this calendar.

Rudy is so brave to stand in front of a degenerating Duma? -> Duma was insane!

Rudy is so thoughtful and sticks to his promise to Duma by sealing Mila -> akshually Duma wasn't completely insane because he told him to seal Mila and not to kill her even if I said the inverse 3 lines earlier...

#replies #anon #I might make posts like this #but I really liked FE15 bar its plot! #which is a weird thing to say #I guess Rudy was retconned both because Gods BaD and because Walmart from FE13 exists and can be fucked? #or it was the start of 'imperialism maybe not bad if you have a reason uwu' #and this reason would be gods bad religion bad if kusakihara wanted to write and direct his game closer to the Squenix side of JRPGS #and we end up with supreme leader who wants to get rid of crusts that's why she invades the continent #even if in this specific setting crusts is dragon blood aka dragons #with a good dose of church bad bad bad hammered #at this point the 'evil still exists in the heart of men' disappeared from the script and the player only sees it in sidequests #or things not relevant to the main plot #which culminate in Dee and Caellach's discussion in Zahrofl #'maybe killing those people who helped and supported us bad because they might be angry at u fwend' #and no “they helped us when we needed it unlike you why do you want to kill them they're my allies”

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The more I think about it, the claim Edelgard wants to be a goddess/replace the goddess from Dimitri and Seteth makes more sense. Her believing only she can fix the world's problems, believing the world is too sinful because of "those eeevil lizard people", crushing anyone who dares oppose her and seeing human sacrifices as a means to an end/collateral damage. Heck you can see her war as a rapture and those who don't agree with her burn for a thousand years or in the case get killed/vanquished. And after her war if she wins, then she reforms a church under her name and in Nopes she does the exact the same thing after getting rid of the Slithers with Rhea. And considering how cultish her stans irl behave while trying to claim that they're "good people", yeah it all clicks.

The thing is,

The "Goddess" or at least what we know/heard of her didn't even act like Supreme Leader did.

Sure, sources on Sothis's time in Fodlan are biased, either we're told anything about her by Rhea, or by the Mole People.

But I agree, the game gives us some clues about what Supreme Leader wants to be, at least in Tru Piss. With her Manu support, she becomes the figure people look up to and aspire to be, the source of strength the Goddess and the CoS previously were. You also have the explore sections in the monastery, and how she's found where Rhea used to be when she was doing her archbishop things (the audience chambers iirc?), the CoS being "reformed under her supervision" and the final straw on the camel's back is her ending mural.

The rest is her messiah complex - partly fueled by Adrestian nationalism - and her stubborness, Supreme Leader will walk on her path and refuse to look back or even reconsider, no matter the obstacles standing before her, you are either on her side, or an obstacle needing to be removed.

As for the irl devoted fans, lol, I won't consider their behaviour in an analysis of the character, but if we are to talk about the BESF in Nopes, they are also sure they're doing a favor to the world/Fodlan while ignoring a good part of said Fodlan. Nopes!Ferdie comes to mind, with his nonsense about the Kingdom having more crusted generals, or the general fuckery that is the alliance with the Federation, or people being gung ho and looking forward to sack the monastery/cities/Faerghus to earn some fame.

#anon #replies #what i like about supreme leader is her supposed charisma #sure it doesn't work at all if you take into consideration the world and think from a doylist and even watsonian angle #but in the end the games especially nopes portray how the usually attentive BESF suddenly turn their brain on off mode #whenever they join Supreme Leader even if her words don't match what the world is telling them #something like you can buy anything from someone who knows how to talk #with all the issues and questions this raises of course #I also like how her determination that is usually a good trait #is shown here in excess to be something negative #at least in AM #funny how both Willy and Supreme Leader had a strong will that Rhea notices #but their drive was most likely different even if on paper they achieved the same thing #both Supreme Leader and Claude strike me in the games as people who want to win over people's hearts #be the one they love and revere instead of the supposed Church #but they don't know how to do it #FE16 #3 Nopes