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dreadark · 5 months
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thinking about the stories of the 999th regression turn
wanderer of the eternal horizon - lee jihye’s giant story that she gained after 40000 years of looking for a way to bring back everything she lost
heart sealing the sorrow - lee hyunsung’s giant story that he gained after trying to carry his promises through 40000 years
flame(s) of eternity - uriel’s giant story that she gained after chasing revenge for 40000 years I like how it has a similar name to yjh’s "hell of eternity"
delusional design - kim namwoon’s giant story that… started in the subway? In like the first scenario?? hey wait a sec, you ever think about how the other fucked up giant stories are created from an eternity of wandering while knw got his from coping with delusions since day 1. no wonder it breaks so easily
ones that remember the apocalypse - the giant story all four of them share as the only survivors of the 999th turn
(the rest are regular stories)
battlefield of a hero and flame - the story of yoo joonghyuk and uriel fighting back to back near the end of the 999th turn (some time after yjh went blind) kim dokja notes this is one of his favorite scenes of wos overall...
flame of annihilation - uriel’s story… I’m gonna guess this isn’t 999 specific?
forty-thousand-year-old crush - hey kim namwoon what the fuck (somehow this is the only reason we have a timeline for these guys...)
companion of desperate spirit - this is what uriel uses to snap knw out of his hsy-induced meltdown . and I NEED to know the backstory for this one. because uriel fucking hates knw, she literally says she’ll kill him right after she’s done with the secretive plotter, so what circumstances forced them to work together despite this…please orv I need to see this… (what if I write it…...)
*when I say she hates him I mean that she’s coping because what else can she do after 40k years of living only for revenge. obviously she cares about him despite this… she runs to his rescue right after jihye does. ah the living flame...
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localapparently · 6 months
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i love kimcom so much.. i love them so much..
theyre so..!! honestly if i think about them too much i'll cry.. and I'm rereading a few bits of dark castle to compare the novel and the webtoon and gosh, sleepyc and team's art really allows kimcoms interactions to feel more alive and goofy, silly even,,
epilogue spoilers ahead near the end
and novel's narration are like the gaps to fill in, both sides elevate the story,, i sound like a food critic but like. oh my goodness you read the part where kdj reunites with sys in dark castle after his revival and youre so taken by how sweet and cute it is. and then you read novel and..!!
I wouldn't have been able to run straight here if it wasn't for this feeling. I saw Shin Yoosung crying and thought that parents probably felt like this.
GOODBYEEEE I AM SO DEADDDD LIKE OH MY GOD YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME???
and webtoon chooses to let kdj maintain the same composure he had when he talked to jihye after saving her just moments prior,, and it works because now i read his inner thoughts in novel and I FEEL SO INSANE?!?!?! YOU BITCHHH SAY IT SAY YOU MISS HER?? no wait .. im getting off topic. this is becoming a kdj sys ramble
Honestly even though i call them found family I don't really classify them as a family either, they feel more like a home? at least at the first half of the story.. In an apocalypse where everything feels uncertain and you've lost all your close friends, you'd end up wandering aimlessly, so sticking to a group is moreso a temporary means of survival than friendship of any sort. It's also why kdj is so essential to kimcom as their glue, as the person who gathered them together, he provided them with that temporary party. and having that 'constant' you can return and realign to in that setting is so.. augh...
not to mention that three of the kimcom members are kids and kdj is their form of stability. lgy and sys hug him whenever they see him because he's the first adult that had ever shown them care. jihye is probably shaken from the first scenario but while she clings to yjh and admires him as her master, he probably doesnt do enough to reciprocate her respect or communicate as enthusiastically. now that i think about it, jihye feels kind of lonely, not young enough to get along with the kids particularly closely and not old enough to be buddies with the adults. does she make up for it by being talkative?)
And at this point in the story its evident that theyre not even that close !! singshong's writing style isnt one that elaborates on emotions and descriptive fluff to begin with, but sys is stated to not be so fond of jihye in ch162 because jihye was rude to kdj, they still feel like theyre in their own cliques. sys and lgy stick together as kids of similar ages, jhw and lhs get along normally, hsy is. hsy. lhs for one narrates kimcom as his 'companions' quite early on, but i'm unsure whether that choice is becuase thats just a suitable word for people closer than 'allies' but not close enough to be 'friends'. ultimately its just a buncha people who are trying to survive, and care about the guy that brought them tgt. it doesnt really feel like anything more than that.
and then as you're caught up in kdj's shenanigans, small snippets pass by and they feel a bit warmer yk. like sys and lgy having a coin flip whenever they're uneasy. (sys states that lgy has "done this before", like he's the one that has suggested the past coin flip(s). it feels like its implying that hes initiated this game system just to cheer up sys because shes a lot more transparent about feeling sad that kdj isnt there.) sooyoung of all people, willing to get an outer god contract to save sangah. jihye, hyunsung and seolhwa chilling in the room during proof of stars, and hyunsung was picking his nose like are you fr they are so unserious,.
in jttw arc ch 433, yoosung growing close enough to joonghyuk to not get intimidated by him and (forcefully (forcefully is a strong word but she straight up just puts it on his cheek unprompted and that is so funny of her)) apply seolhwa's ointment, even giggling when he allows her to do it after she brings up doctors orders.
after proof of stars, theres a portion that goes
The party members supported each other. (...) I saw the white lines connecting the empty universe. The stars, that seemed like they would never meet each other, were facing each other.
please know this: i wanted to cry and scream so bad. ive started to spell out kimcoms names rather than address them in their shortforms, that writing inconsistency is how emotional i am right now.
I can't do the justice of listing down every instance where they've grown a little closer, but i'm hoping to remember more on my second reread.
because orv is such a long novel, the way they gradually grow closer also feels realistic.. and by the time you're in the ch400s, its so clear that they wouldn't go anywhere else without each other.. if i start talking about vacation arc i'll just start sitting and staring at a wall again.
"you're explaining how an average found family trope is realised" Youre right!!! youre right!!,, me when the found family is actually found family.. don't shame me like this.. i'm just an emotional person..
Ah and then you get moments where their unity really shines, and they become god pummeling probability festering forces of nature... and its when one guy's life is in jeopardy. even when they weren't all that close yet, its when they save kdj where they feel most strong. and its a bit obvious because its like, common goal makes people group together yknow, but god the adrenaline and relief when they appeared in demon king selection.. the way their names pop up one after another when they vote for jung heewon's skill..
and 1865 !! 1865 was really the epitome of it all!! oh my god they were all so reluctant to return to the hell of the scenarios but they dragged themselves back because of one fucking guy that they loved too much. and i'm rereading 1865 a bit as i write this but the way they all yelled at their sponsors to pick them is so so funny and the whole speedrunning thing really shows their desperation to quickly find him but also feels a bit fun and even exhilirating with how theyd already beaten the game once, and they were going to storm through the whole thing again to reach kim dokja. like a fuckin earthquake. the lines in ch 536
They had to be insane. (...) These people who lost their minds were clearing the scenarios with insane methods.
YEAHHH THATS MY FUCKING KIMCOM WOOOH OH MY GODD THEYRE SO INSANE!!!!
kimcom's bond was strengthened because of their love for kim dokja, kimcom drifted so close because of how much they wanted to save kim dokja. whenever i think about the 'found family' trope between kimcom, it exists because they love kim dokja, and once again i'm reminded of how much that bastard is loved and how he denies that he is anything else but a reader outside the covers of the story.
It's not to say that all of kimcom's bonds were because of him, but it's clear that had it not been for him, they would have dissipated so much quicker.
agh. what was i talking about again..
genuinely i dont know if ive proven anything through this. i just had to talk about it. i havent even talked about the relationship between kdj and each kimcom member but then the post wouldnt end. sys's section would be thousands of words and i would even have a portion for gong pildu and jang hayoung..
i love kimcom. thats it thats the post.
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x688plsloveme · 3 years
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Every time I think I'm out of orv hell, I think up a new meta post so anyway this one is about Dokja (and a bit of Joonghyuk) and how he uses names.
Dokja is the type of guy who never reveals his cards - he keeps them close to his chest until the most opportune moment to use them. He does this in all of his relationships too, not explicitly telling any of them how much he loves them. His guardedness is also reflected in how he refers to everyone. He'll only call someone using the same type of familiarity that they use for him.
People that call him "Dokja-ssi" - Heewon, Sangah, Hyunsung - get called "ssi" in return. Sooyoung and Joonghyuk call him by his full name, so he does the same in return even though he's closest to them (A fact further cemented by how sometimes he'll slip up - or try to be annoying - and call YJH the more friendly "Joonghyuk-ah"). Kyrgios calls him "disciple" so Dokja calls him "master." And he always refers to his kids using "-ah" as they refer to him as "hyung" or "ajussi" (Yoosung uses it in a better connotation than just simply old man like how Jihye uses it. Honestly I just think Sing Shong didn't want to have ANYONE call Dokja "oppa" as that would be scarring for the reader)
He doesn't want them to see his true feelings - a canon fact (their vacation day where he says that he usually wouldn't speak his mind but he was so at ease that he let slip that he wants to live in a big house with everyone) that is seen over and over again. He didn't want them to know just how much he cares so they can let him go easier when he sacrifices himself. It's all a conscience decision that helps him keep everyone at arms length
Speaking of. A short sidenote - Joonghyuk does the same thing but in a more obvious way. He shows his want for distance clearly by referring to everyone by their full names. This is, of course, most likely because he's seen his friends die too many times and he has no choice but to try and salvage his mental state by lessoning the horror and shock every time it happens by keeping his distance
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