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personality + powers (theory)

far as i know / have heard, there are 4 possible explanations as to why a person has the power that they have.

the first two are almost the same, really: random chance and genetic inheritance. why they’re the same? because the chance of inheriting (not to mention, expressing!) the exact same traits one of your parents had is pretty low irl as well. much higher is the chance to have something similar, but not rarely are children rather different from both of their parents.

the other two are the ones the show propagates, and while they’re not at all alike, they’re still intertwined: convenience and personality.

the convenience theory is brought up by Daphne in the scene where she, Matt and Ando debate what’ll happen if Ando receives the serum - Daphne is convinced it’ll give him something he needs, citing it’s what happened to her and claiming it also describes Matt’s situation. but the way she says it... it could also make a rather good case for a personality-based theory, and that’s also the one i see most often in fandom.

which is why under the cut, i will go through every single powered character on the show (who we know a reasonable much about) and do a quick analysis of how well each of the latter theories fits them ^^

credited-as main characters:

Peter: personality-based seems more likely, as he is a very giving/empathetic person, and he wants to be extraordinary

Claire: if her ability had activated in Meredith’s burning home, i’d have argued for convenience, but a simple cut in her palm (however deep).... nah. neither seems to apply much here in fact

Hiro: personality-based maybe, because of all his heroic dreams

Matt: Daphne claimed he’d ‘always’ worried was others thought of him, so you can kind of argue personality... but mostly i suppose convenience, in his job as well as possibly generally because of his dyslexia (although he was adamant about not using it to his advantage that way)

Mohinder: one could argue convenience if you consider the fact that some guys tried to rob him when he was still dozing after the injection, and the first thing he did was defend himself against them... but you can defend yourself with many abilities. i once read that his ability amplified him because he’d always ‘had more in him’, and while cheesy, maybe that’s true? so personality-based for him i’d wager

Nathan: his ‘high ambitions’ are basically a running gag at this point, and the comics never fail to overstate how much he’d always loved flying - hell, even the show hints at it. so personality-based for him for sure

Sylar: while we can’t be certain when exactly he activated (at the latest eclipse, or even in his early childhood?), it’s undeniable he is fascinated with complex things. personality-based again

Angela: her powers have often been convenient, but also pretty hit-and-miss; especially at the start, fatally so. and unless you make the stretch to her taking responsibility (= being farsighted) young, i don’t really see personality-based either, so neither seems to really apply

Micah: we first see him use his power to help his family, but he surely had it before - he seemed confident with it already at that point. he’s smart, and very interested in electronics; though we can’t know for sure which came first (see Sylar), personality-based is likely here too

D.L.: arguably a good example for convenience, as he (according to some deleted scenes, anyway) first manifested when he was desperate to get out of prison

Isaac: as apparently you don’t need to be able to paint to be a precog painter (see Peter’s stick figures), i don’t see how either much applies here...

Elle: again neither looks very likely, unless you stretch personality-based to electrifying-slash-prickly (and she activated at nine so ,,,)

Monica: she’s ambitious and wants to be more successful than her family before her, and support them and herself - so is that convenience or personality, now? i’d argue convenience, because nothing in her suggests she specifically wants to copy other people

Samuel: frankly we don’t know enough of him to argue for either, but it’s definitely not convenience-based because he literally activated before he was born (much like Nathan and Malina), sooo

Ando: funnily enough, although Daphne argued so hard for convenience, i’d say it’s a personality-based case for him - he is the devoted friend, the designated sidekick in the best way. or is that convenience again after all... bit of both maybe

Niki: i’m not quite sure about convenience here honestly, as we don’t really see her first first time of using her ability (Jessica threatening her (their?) father was an early one, but the first?? no, how would she even know?) - and it’s even kinda implied in the comics that the triplets all started expressing theirs as teenagers or even younger - but the strength of an abuse survivor....... yeah i’d go with personality-based

Maya: she’s a bit whiny and occasionally bitter sure, but there’s nothing in her personality to suggest she wants to commit mass murder every time she’s upset. it’s not even convenient, really [well it was in Exodus but ,,,] so [for the timeline we wound up getting] i’d argue neither

Adam: what i couldn’t claim for Claire, absolutely applies to him - his ability literally saved his life upon first manifesting, so convenience here for sure. (although he’s pretty persevering, in a very weasle-y way...)

Tracy: again with the comics implying the triplets activated as teens / even kids!!! but discounting that.... personality-based, i guess? what with her ice-cold career-orientated attitude... sure there’s some convenience in the mix, but there are a lot more convenient ways of getting rid of a journalist than killing him, so :’D

other relevant characters, introduced in S1:

René: convenience is straight out of the window here, considering his primary ability activating got his people killed/abused, and his secondary ability activating killed those oppressors (which only on first glance sounds good) - but personality-based? i’m not sure either... he’s an unsuspecting little fellow, but that’s not quite enough... and he uses his ability to fight against ability abuse he experienced as a kid, but i’m still not sure. thoughts? i’ll tentatively say neither...

Molly: neither really fits, far as we know

Charlie: she has a strong interest in learning and we can at least assume that didn’t just start when she discovered she was good at it - so i’d say personality-based

Claude: i’d tentatively argue for convenience, as he isn’t exactly the most subtle fellow... and has been obscuring his identity even before he started working for the Company (!!), so he’s likely running from smth, for which his ability is definitely very useful

Sanjog: we absolutely don’t know enough about him to argue for either, although he does seem to embrace his ability, so maybe he wanted something like this....?? really all speculation though

Charles: he seems like an empathetic, kind man - so telepathy isn’t the biggest stretch for personality-based. it is however some stretch, so how about convenience? well; we do see him using it to stop (well...pause) racist regulations and police brutality......

Linderman: very classic case of convenience-based, as the first time he activated, he healed his dying mother

Ted: neither in my opinion - his ability isn’t even slightly convenient for him, and he is stubborn not unstable far as we at all know

Hana: possibly neither, possibly a bit of both, as she is a descendant of fighters and a spy herself - but then that’s too wide a field, a lot of abilities could help with that... i say neither

Eden: convenience, as she first used it to escape her oppressive home

Paulette: we don’t really know enough about her to argue for either

Meredith: neither seems quite likely - her ability hasn’t exactly brought her much luck, and she has a strong character but not exactly fiery enough to quite play into that cliché, either

Kaito: very likely personality-based, as his ability plays right into his career ambitions (in fact pretty much was what made him so successful so fast)

Candice: something both, something in-between, maybe? she dreamed herself away, and dreamt of punishing her bullies, and she could do both with this ability

other relevant characters, introduced in later seasons:

West: he enjoys being special, but apart from that, there is no real evidence that can be used to argue for either

Alejandro: [if you even assume he has an ability, i personally have some Doubts] probably personality-based, as he is Maya’s other half one way or another

Bob: his ability is objectively convenient, but i’m still not sure an argument can be made for either, as too little (= nothing) is known about his childhood, and neither about his character except ambitious/controlling and kind of a loser when it comes to relationships (divorced and often the fifth (or seventh) wheel when younger)

Maury: another case of too little information for either - he seems to submit to strength/authority rather easily, and only ever committed petty crime, so one can’t argue for criminal mastermind either

Doyle: i don’t think there’s been any information on how he activated (correct me if i’m wrong), and while he does use his ability to compensate for being unsuccessful in forming,, Any kinds of relationships, i still wouldn’t say it’s necessarily personality-based (and something this broad definitely doesn’t qualify as convenience)

Alice: her ability isn’t exactly what you’d call convenient :’D and personality-based would probably be something more fairytale-esque for her, so that’s out as well

Alex: he’s a swimmer, so a bit in-between i suppose (we once more don’t know enough to argue semantics)

Samson: we definitely don’t know enough about him or what he was like before activating (is this ‘putting animals/people to sleep’ thing even part of his primary ability, or does is that just his preferred hunting tool like telekinesis is for his son?)

Luke: we don’t know how he first activated, but maybe personality-based works if you stretch it to ‘destructive teen’...?

'Baron Samedi’: both seem plausible if he’s always dreamed of ‘making it big’ (in his way), which i think we can safely assume, but once more we don’t know nearly enough about his childhood, and technically there’s a lot of ability that are good for demonstrating strenght... maybe he first activated in a firefight (with the Tonton Macoute?).........?? but that’s pure speculation

Arthur: he has always been ruthless and controlling, and never for a minute believed that people with abilities should stick together by default - being able to take them away from others to strengthen himself fully plays into his personality imo

Ishi: apart from apparently being a nurturing, sweet mother, we know little of her... i’d tentatively argue for personality-based, but who knows how she activated?? too little information, again

Daphne: convenience for sure, there’s a reasons she made a case for that

Knox: general question - is ‘circumstances X grew up in’ still convenience or personality already?

Jesse: same as Knox pretty much, we can’t know

Flint: i’d carefully say unstable temperament -> personality

Scott: again a bit of a what-came-first question: he wanted to be ‘’better’’, but did he always want that or did that only come from past failures and the resulting fear for the future? we don’t know because we barely know him

James Martin: i’ll stick my neck out for personality-based, that he’d longed to be somebody else, somebody significant for a while even before activating (i mean - why else impersonate others instead of just improving himself?)

Emma: mostly convenience-based, but as she has a general affinity for music and soft things... in-between, maybe?

Edgar: IF he was indeed the commitment-averse guy Lydia described, i’d say personality-based, but i’m honestly torn about that and don’t have any other significant things, so i won’t speak a final verdict

Rebecca: convenience for sure, for hiding and revenge

Lydia: assuming here she indeed activated young, this is another difficult one - maybe she was always empathetic, maybe not??

Joseph: his ability sure is convenient, but it’s absolutely unclear whether other people perceived him as pleasant/trustworthy because he made them feel that way (literally) or whether that links back to his true character. he seems like a responsible guy overall, but that doesn’t get you to either side of the coin, only an in-between

now i left out some of the most obviously inherited ones / ones that at least have a heritable component. those are, in short: Peter(-Arthur), Matt(-Maury), Sylar(-Samson), (Maya-Alejandro?), Ted(-Mindy), Meredith(-Flint), and the Bowman family

and i also left out Reborn, which works a lot more with heritable abilities, but this post is really long enough already :’D

so, final summary (regarding convenience vs personality):

convenience-based: 11

personality-based: 15

both/in-between: 4

neither: 12

too little information: 14

which makes for a pretty even split that lets one argue for whatever they prefer, honestly XD still hope this was enlightening/interesting to read, and looking forward to all of your opinions!!

#nbc heroes #primatech #heroes theories #do you disagree with any of my verdicts? (or do you have any questions? i know i referenced the comics a lot)#(i had to otherwise 'too little information' would've been like;; half ?? lmao)

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“Jacare, Shogun and maybe not much fun” UFC Fight Night: Brazil Preview

Joey

November 10th, 2019

WHEW! So this is a real card, eh? Honestly it's far from the worst show of the year but it's also far from a good show either. This feels slightly below average even if you grade it on a Brazilian Fight Night curve. You have an appealing main event, a few interesting prelim fights and some solid action fights that might create for some unique finishes. I'd say it's skippable but you can legit just watch it whenever with the benefit of ESPN+. Remember that it's the last card we're getting until December 7th so perhaps that'll keep ya watching. We only have so many bites at the apple here before 2019 is done and dusted, dudes.

Fights: 12

Debuts: Tracy Cortez, Antônio Arroyo, Andre Muniz

Fight Changes/Injury Cancellations: 7 (Sam Alvey OUT, Paul Craig IN vs Shogun Rua/Duda Santana OUT, Tracy Cortez IN vs Vanessa Melo/Kevin Holland OUT, Alessio Di Chirico IN vs Antonio Arroyo/Alessio Di Chirico OUT, Andre Muniz IN vs Antonio Arroyo/Lil Nog vs Tevor Smith CANCELLED/Priscila Cachoeira OUT, Ariane Lipski IN vs Veronica Macedo/Jack Marshman OUT, Wellington Turman IN vs Markus Perez)

Headliners (fighters who have either main evented or co-main evented shows in the UFC): 5 (Mauricio "Shogun" Rua, Charles Oliveira, Jacare Souza, Renan Barao, Francisco Trinaldo)

Fighters On Losing Streaks in the UFC: 3 (Sérgio Moraes, Renan Barao, Ariane Lipski)

Fighters On Winning Streaks in the UFC: 2 (Charles Oliveira, James Krause)

Main Card Record Since Jan 1st 2017 (in the UFC): 21-14

Jan Blachowicz- 5-2 Jacare Souza- 3-3 Shogun Rua- 1-1 Paul Craig- 3-4 Jared Gordon- 3-2 Charles Oliveira- 6-1 Antonio Arroyo- 0-0 Andre Muniz- 0-0 Wellington Turman- 0-1

Fights By Weight Class (yearly number here):

Middleweight- 2 (46) Light Heavyweight- 2 (44) Welterweight- 2 (72) Lightweight- 2 (74) Featherweight- 1 (57) Bantamweight- 1 (55) Women’s Bantamweight- 1 (20) Women’s Flyweight- 1 (33)

Heavyweight- (37) Women’s Strawweight- (28) Flyweight- (15) Women’s Featherweight- (8)

2019 Number Tracker

Debuting Fighters (39-61-1)- Tracy Cortez, Antônio Arroyo, Andre Muniz

Short Notice Fighters (30-39)- Paul Craig, Tracy Cortez, Andre Muniz, Wellington Turman, Vanessa Melo, Veronica Macedo

Second Fight (56-38)- Vanessa Melo, Eduardo Garagorri

Cage Corrosion (Fighters who have not fought within a year of the date of the fight) (23-40-1)-

Undefeated Fighters (42-39-2)- Eduardo Garagorri

Fighters with at least four fights in the UFC with 0 wins over competition still in the organization (12-9)-

Weight Class Jumpers (Fighters competing outside of the weight class of their last fight even if they’re returning BACK to their “normal weight class”) (32-25)- Jacare Souza, Ricardo Ramos

Twelve Precious Ponderings

1- So let's create an imaginary pecking order for the 205 lb division underneath Jon Jones:

You have to begin with Dominick Reyes. Undefeated, young for 205 lbs, finishes in all but one of his UFC bouts (and he pretty much finished OSP too). He KO'd Chris Weidman on ESPN 2. After that you assume there's Corey Anderson since he just KO'd Johnny Walker and has wins over Ilir Latifi and Glover Teix in the past two years. Also given that the general rule of thumb is that the squeaky wheel gets the grease, the more he talks the more the UFC is likely to eventually acquiesce. Where does the winner of this fight slide in behind that? It's worth remembering that Jan Blachowicz was in talk to fight Jon Jones at one point before Jon either turned him down or the UFC decided to go all in on Jorge Masvidal vs Nate Diaz. At the same time, he's one fight removed from getting his metaphorical shit pushed in vs Thiago Santos. You'd assume Blachowicz would slot in RIGHT ahead of Glover Teix but would they have Jan ahead of Anthony Smith? Conversely where does Jacare fit in? Could Jacare, if he finishes Jan, become the third straight 185 lber who challenges Jon Jones for the title or does he need a streak of wins? Remember the UFC promised Jacare that IF he won vs Jack Hermansson, he'd get a title shot. It didn't work out. Do they bring back that promise as a make good? It'd be nice of them to especially as Jones continues to chase an opponent worthwhile in his mind.

2- One of the things sort of lost to time is that Blachowicz pre-winning streak had a serious cardio deficiency. He's found a good way to balance those problems with more range fighting, less clinch work and fighting at a comfortable enough pace to where if he gets tired, his opponent is equally as tired. Will his cardio hold up if he has to do a lot of clinch fighting with Jacare?

3- Is this the last time we'll see Jacare if he loses?

4- Paul Craig submitting Shogun would be pretty sad but I can't imagine that coming to pass. Craig is a big LHW but he's awfully slow, a total nonstarter on the feet and shaky if a fight doesn't wind up on the mat. All Shogun has to do is avoid that third round slump.

5- Charles Oliveira is 5-1 in his last six fights and has been all action since going up to 155 lbs. At this point I have to assume the UFC simply sees him as a fun action fighter and have given up on the idea of him being anything resembling a contender. Jared Gordon is pretty much yet another slow blood and guts guy in Oliveira's long run of fighting those kinds of guys in a row. Should be a tremendous fight while it lasts.

6- So if Shogun does lose to Paul Craig, where would that rank among the sadder losses of legendary fighters? Gotta be up there, right?

7- James Krause is finally beginning to figure things out at 170 lbs so I'm a little confused why instead of getting a respectable step up (maybe into the bottom half of the top 15 perhaps?), he's getting a guy coming off two losses who has been thoroughly outboxed/outstruck by guys just like Krause recently? I could be missing something I guess but it feels like they need to do more with Krause while he's kind of sort of hot.

8- Curious to see what Ricardo Ramos looks like up 10 lbs. It feels like a pretty weird step up in weight class but maybe Ramos' body was telling him something we can't hear. His opponent is Uruguay's Eduardo Garagorri who looked good enough in his debut but seems a level below Ramos and Ramos' usually competition.

9- I personally thought Wellington Turman beat Karl Roberson so I'm curious to see how he looks in his second fight, even if it's yet another short notice call in Markus Perez. Would not be surprised if this fight was a sleeper hit.

10- The Renan Barao situation is just sad.

11- Veronica Macedo has had it tough in the UFC so I was happy to see her pull off the upset and score a win in her last fight. Similarly speaking Ariane Lipski has had a rough go of it as well despite her evident upside and promise. This is one of those well put together fights that you kinda don't like for either fighter even if it's compelling.

12- BOBBY GREEN IS BACK!

#MMA #UFC #Fight Night #JAcare #Brazil #Shogun #Bobby Green

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