#ds9 is great but still too heavy with all the dominion plot

[lonely-night]

i need a show that i haven't watched it before to help me get through this semester its already end of week 2 and i haven't started any assignments because im overwhelmed and fucking stressed and have nothing to distract me

#rambling tag #ds9 is great but still too heavy with all the dominion plot #i need a sitcom #i had watched one (1) ep of friends i can't continue it #maybe i should continue stargate

[trillscienceofficer]

Honestly the writers could have done better with Trills in general. They are fascinating species but we've seen so little of how their society functions and their part in the federation. I don't have much faith in Discovery writers to do that but they have a great opportunity to explore those aspects. I agree with you, haters gona hate no matter what. We are lucky we got these interesting characters.

From a certain perspective, I think we’re lucky we got what we have when it comes to the Trill. Reading the ‘DS9 Companion’, it’s clear how every Dax-centric episode was a tough nut to crack for the writing room, and while the results ended up being a little rushed (because of the limited time the writers had for rewrites), I’m glad they tried to dig a little deeper, and give us characters who are far from one-dimensional. In some cases they failed to see that there were heavy consequences for the plots they were writing (between the competion to be joined, the government conspiracies and the reassociation taboo, just how fucked up Trill society is? How do the Trill juggle all of this with their Federation ties? These are questions that DS9 never even tries to address), but it certainly is fascinating to speculate about it, even twenty years later. Trill isn’t even among the central alien species on DS9 — Bajorans, Cardassians and the Dominion species were, I think, always going to take priority. So on one hand I’d have liked more and and better structured Trill worldbuilding, but on the other I feel like I can’t really ask for more than this.

You’re right that Discovery has an opportunity to expand on all this, and while the show has let me down plenty of times, I think the ‘distant future’ setting of season 3 is a good way to experiment without worrying too much about what’s already established. There are still many ways the Disco writers can let me down (I sure am worried about Michael and this yet unnamed nonbinary character!) but I’m approaching new Trill stuff with curiosity more than anything else.

And yeah, I agree that Ezri haters aren’t going to be swayed by anything I can say. That however won’t stop me from defending her every time! :D

#trill tag #Anonymous #askbox

[dgcatanisiri]

The reason I about threw Diane Carey’s Dominion War duology novelization of the opening arc of season six against a wall was VERY simple. She may be more comfortable in the combat-heavy and TOS-influenced world of DS9, but she still sure as hell doesn’t understand it any better than the world of TNG, because there are painful things she does. Like, her big thing about it seems to be deciding that the Federation are just suffering TOO great of losses against the Dominion in this arc, so then builds a storyline about Sisko actually intending to be “kicked upstairs” so that he can arrange a covert mission to take out a Dominion spy/monitoring facility - which undermines his character arc in the episode “Behind the Lines,” when he has to give up command of the Defiant. The whole point of that plot is about the soldier who has to remain behind, and she makes this into a part of his master plan.

But the one that set my blood on fire is that... She GUTS Kira’s story in the episode Rocks and Shoals. The story where she realizes that, in walking among the Cardassians and Jem’Hadar, day after day, without fighting them, she has become a passive collaborator, and she can’t live with that. Vedek Yassim’s suicide, which is one of the most powerful moments of the entire arc is reduced to one line of referring to it happening “off screen.”

Like... I know that, given that she was condensing six episodes into two 270-ish page novels, but first of all, she found time to include her own original material (making Charlie Reynolds, the captain of the ship that fires on Sisko’s Jem’Hadar ship in the season opener, into an actual character who appears in multiple scenes, the above mentioned “monitoring facility” subplot that actually features the mission the Defiant goes on), while still cutting this out, but more importantly, if you think that whole storyline for Kira, the build, the climax, the emotional gutpunch is something you can just jump over, then you do NOT understand Deep Space Nine. 

I don’t care that she got novelizations pumped out in a rapidfire pace on a tight deadline. I can only consider it a good thing that she hasn’t written a Star Trek book since 2001.

#dg gets pissed