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Would you be able to provide an abridged retelling of the most significant years in the Winx fandom? Been interested in just how much of a shitshow this franchise has been as of late.

SO I've been like Actually In The Fandom since 2011 and after 12 years my memory's not the best, but people are free to add or correct anything I missed or got wrong lmao. I'll only be covering what I remember from interacting with others, the TRUE OG shitshow from the first 4 seasons is not something I'm as knowledgeable. I'm also not gonna name anyone in particular, just because that's like, the polite thing to do.

2011 itself was a Moment, as the Specials were coming out and with them a resurgence of the Dub Wars in full, Nick coming in as a new contender. Nick using Aisha's original name caused its own set of issues because people both thought they changed her name for no reason and because people argued that calling her Layla still was Wrong And Bad and they should stop, which like. yeah.

2012 is S5's debut. I feel that's self-explanatory enough. 2013 carried on with that as the season progressed, and it was also the time of the Transformation Wars -or more accurately, the Enchantix vs Everything Else War. If you didn't like Enchantix above all else you were invalid and wrong and other such synonyms, essentially, especially after Sirenix's official release.

2014 came with S6 (which has its own issues), but what I want to touch on is that 2014 came with the Couture artstyle. This marked the first official foray into the whitewashing of the Winx, though few people paid attention to it (that I saw, anyways).

2015 was S7's debut. This is also I feel self-explanatory enough. SURPRISINGLY I remember people PRAISING S7 at the time? which is weird as hell? But anyways, 2015 was the first time people noticed the Couture artstyle significantly whitewashing the Winx. This also was the time of the announcement of WOW.

2016 and 2017 I'll group together as it was the time WOW aired, and the full start of the Whitewashing debacle. It was the height of the whitewashing denial too, with people not seeing the issue with the Winx looking lighter (and some agreeing with them being lighter, even!) and coupled with WOW's mixed reception it was just Not a good time overall.

2018 reached another point in the Whitewashing as we got our first teasers for S8, which not only kept the whitewashing but also drastically changed the artstyle, more than WOW did. 2019 was S8's proper debut and it was, for a bit, a time of uncertainty, as during S8's airing Rainbow had seemed to indicate that the franchise was over (more notably, the renovations of Rainbow Magicland, which was primarily Winx-themed, removing Alfea Castle).

AND THEN ON THE SAME FUCKING DAY S8 AIRS ITS FINAL EPISODE WE GET FATE'S CONFIRMATION AND CASTING. September 17th was a day.

2020, 2021 and 2022 are what I'd call the Fate Era, as that was the primary part of the franchise at the time and I feel we're all familiar with its discourse, but the main points were the further whitewashing of Musa and Flora (as Terra is pretty much Flora), the show itself being bad with its multiple writing and costume choices, and just what it caused was. yeah. THANKFULLY IT'S DEAD NOW.

It was during this time that we got the full confirmation of S9 being a reboot, and now we're all just. waiting to see what comes out of that. AT THE VERY LEAST THEY AREN'T WHITEWASHED ANYMORE small mercies.

#Drops answers #Winx Club #Drops screams into the abyss for Winx

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faces-and-morefaces · 5 years

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Talking about the cartoon I used to watch and reasons why did I stop:

Winx Club

[Talking about RAI’s version]

[Seasons 1,2 and 3]

Ok, I’ll first tart of why did I loved used to be a great cartoon and it had great background music. Music that could deeply describe situation character is in it. And one of my favorite background music (from seasons 1, 2 and 3) are:

Winx Club 1-3 OST - Sombre - I really really love this one, it’s beautiful yet sad! And it really described character’s saddness in scene. It also feels like it’s describing the situation that happened long time ago, that’s one of the reasons why I love it so much.

Winx Club 1-3 OST - Victory! - This is a great background music, like it quite alot!

Winx Club 1-3 OST - Charmix Theme 1 - Like it beacuse even if charmix was only accessories, it had that special feelings like it wasn’t only just accessories but good power ups as well!

Winx Club 1-3 OST - Daphne 1 (full) - Love this one quite alot like Sombre, It has such a soft and relaxing tone!

Ending song - Always loved the ending music!

Also Italian version sounds nice!

And the rest:

Winx Club 1-3 OST - Bloom gets kidnapped

Winx Club 1-3 OST - Scary Tunes (compilation)

Winx Club 1-3 OST - Cloudtower Theme 1

Winx Club 1-3 OST - Hard Feelings

Winx Club 1-3 OST - Dance Party

Like I said above all this music described situation,place or a character/what character felt in certain moment in a great way.

Since this is going to be a long post, for people who are interested they will read more about it under this:

Also what I liked in Rai’s version of Winx is that there were different fairies that attended Alfea even the one’s that looked like they could be witches:

But I like that they were all different:

But they were all different as well, even the Winx they had their differences and they were unique as well:

Different personalities, but yet a great team!

Also we see some new fairies in season 3 that made appearance later in other seasons such as:

Clarice:

Alice:

Emma:

Cornelia:

Marzia:

Maybe there are more, but I’m not making full list of it, there is a list on wikipedia!

Also I think Rai version also had great expressions:

(This Stella’s expression was only for 1 sec, but it’s still funny one.)

I know almost all characters from Winx are skinny,but the inspiration for them were mostly fashions models so yeah...

But there is one thing that kind of bothered me before,but later it didn’t matter too much to me since it’s usually smaller details:

Like this guy:

Don’t you ever wonder what happened to him?

He was only shown like 1 or 2 episodes in season 1 and never again.

[Season 4]

or them:

I understood they were especially for season 4,but i thought Winx would keep them later in other seasons as well, since Roxy started going to Alfea as well.

[Seasons 1,2 and 3]

As for Pixies I really liked them alot in season 2 and 3.

I liked how Chatta and Amore had totally different personalities from Flora and Stella.

First time when I saw them I thought Amore would be perfect Pixie for Flora and Chatta for Stella.

But I understand why Flora was connected with Chatta since Flora is quite shy person.

What I didn’t like was this change [Season 5] :

I didn’t mind the outfists, but how they changed Techna and Musa’s Pixies and put the ones that were from spinoff series Pop Pixie, since in that spinoff they made Digit male. But what bothers me is the fact that Digit isn’t Techna’s bonded Pixie, even if she is male she could have stayed Techna’s bonded Pixie. I don’t know why they changed Musa’s bonded Pixie as well!

[Seasons 1,2 and 3]

I talked about the music in these seasons and the reason why I love them so much, and hearing them again is so nostalgic.

I really loved first 3 seasons of Winx

They did copy paste characters in some scene,but you could barely notice that, since that was actually quite rare.

I like charmix (Rai version) and Flora’s charmix was my favorite.

I love enchantix alot because it showed fairies personalities and abilities. I I really love design for enchantix:

It’s really a beautiful transformation!

[Season 4]

I liked season 4 but a little less than the first 3 seasons,but I can’t point out why is that.

Season 4 was actually quite refreshing since Winx finished school and had new mission in Gardenia and all, new background music wasn’t that bad, but there were less moments where music made atmosphere more exciting/sad/etc.

But I do have my favorite music from this season and it’s:

Superheroes - Ending song

Sophix Theme - Beautiful theme

Lovix Theme - Really love this one!

But there were some moments such as Roxie’s first transformation/ when Wizards of the Black Circle captured Arthur (Roxy’s pet dog)

I like Believix transformation after Enchantix it’s refreshing and modern transformation and I always had a feeling it’s excursively made for the plot of season 4 since the one of the purpose of this transformation is to make humans believe in magic in general.

Also like the designs as well.

I didn’t like the idea of Nabu dying at all...He was a great character, but the decision to kill such a great character was kind of stupid idea for me. But eh, it happened long time ago,so yeah...

Also I don’t remember animation used to be this bad???

[Season 5] [The Start of Nickelodeon Era/Version]

I don’t know if season 4 was also part of Nickelodeon, that is when Nick took over Winx Club.

First when I saw images of Bloom in harmonix form I was sooo excited for fifth season of the series:

But when the season 5 started to air I didn’t started to watch it right away, but waited a little so I would have more episodes to watch and I think that’s the time when Winx started to air on Nickelodeon, I don’t know if season 4 was also part of Nickelodeon or not.

But that’s when Winx started falling apart in my opinion when I started to watch season 5.

I don’t even remembered if I finished watching season 5 at all, animation looked great, but I didn’t like the story.

I expected Roxy to become part of the team, she has great qualities to become one of the Winx, but since she’s actually younger than Winx and she attends Alfea in this season is understandable, Roxy was 16 years old in season 4, so in this season she should be 17, like Stella in season 1 when she attends school second time after what she did last year.

But it could have been awesome if Roxy was with them helping atleast in few episodes,atleast seeing her get harmonix would have been great!

As far as I remember Bloom had the most screen time and I’ve seen people talking about it alot past 5-6 years.

Techna and Musa had so little of screen time (excluding the group screen time). Also I think their personalities weren’t much shown in this season (excluding Aisha in this matter).

Aisha had decent (I think I’m not sure) screen time in this season, but I think that’s because of the fact that Tritannus was her cousin.

I understand that Bloom is leader of the group and all, but I don’t know I kinda feel that other Winx didn’t much cooperate since Bloom was always the one on the screen.

As I said above I really liked how harmonyx looked on Bloom, but seeing on all the Winx:

was kinda meh to me because they all looked similar if not almost the same in the dresses, the top of the dress sure is different, shoes are basically the same only recolored could have atleast a detail or some kind of a symbol on them.

Hairstyle was ok I guess? Flora’s bangs stayed while the others did change.

I feel Bloom,Stella and Flora are more well designed than Musa,Techna and Aisha here as well.

Also their wings look smaller compared to their dresses. Maybe it’s probably hair, I don’t know...

As for sirenix...

Again almost same outfits with little differences, which I don’t like. at. all.

Recolored same wings are just no.

[Season 6]

I can’t talk much about this season, because I only watched few clips and maybe and episode or 2, because I REALLY REALLY didn’t like it at all and that’s when I stopped watching Winx.

[Season 7]

Can’t talk much about this season as well.

But I can tell you about what I think of transformation Butterflix:

What I’m actually glad about is the wings are not same, they are similar but not same and that’s good.

Dresses are cute and I like them even if they look similar. What got my eye is Bloom and Musa’s bottom part of the dress looks identical only different color.

Same recolored shoes! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

My favorite is Flora’s design, and Techna’s looks nice as well.

The only thing I know about seasons 5,6,7 even 8 and what I find annoying is seeing Trix in these seasons... It’s basically Tom and Jerry every time they bring them back.

[Season 8]

I don’t know how much did they change story line is previous 2 seasons, but I did watch few clips of season 8 and I have something to say about this season.

First of all starting with new designs of all characters, or better said revamped for new season.

Looks:

They really didn’t have to go that far to change the characters tho...

What I really don’t like about these designs are eyes, they all have same doll like eyes and they look kind of creepy in promo images.

I liked how Flora and Musa had different eyes and how all of them had different tan, as I said above they didn’t had to go that far really...

I did heard they were bringing enchantix back, but i shouldn't expect it to be the same. Knowing how they changed the male characters from this:

To this:

Which in my opinion they could have stand alone show/spinoff as teenagers (13-14 years), because they look like that.

They look really young knowing for a fact that they are supposed to be young adults by now. I don’t have anything else to say about them...

And few days ago I watched clip about Icy’s backstory:

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So you’re saying to me that this is not connected???:

(This is from season 3 where Icy, Darcy and Stormy didn’t knew each other as kids - When one of them asked “You looked like that!?”)

Season 8′s Icy.

But yeah in season 3 she is a kid in that scene and here she was shown probably as teenager, since she does look older than Bloom and other fairies in original (Rai’s version of) series.

As for her hair if her hair, if she’s natural blonde how we see in season 8, then maybe she used to change her color as a kid sometimes,but if her natural was light blue like in season 3 then she probably just dyed her hair blonde with magic.

And if there was Nick Special for season 3, I bet they wouldn’t include this scene with them as kids, like how they didn’t include Rai’s Charmix and put the title Charmix as the base fairy form.

In my opinion this is plot hole they made this season. Why’s that? Because her backstory doesn’t explain how did she got in contact with the Ancestral Witches. How did she got in contact with Darcy and Stormy (maybe it will be expalined?? Who knows.) What is Darcy and Sormy’s backstories?

After she/they (the Trix) got in contact with them is explained why she/they started hating Bloom, I think...

I see that Icy kept a secret that she’s a royalty and that she had a sister. But there’s no way no one heard of Kingdom that was destroyed or took by a witch or it was never known about the princesses of that kingdom.Or what happened to that royal family of that certain Kingdom! Domino was known for it’s story!

I’ll be back to transformations for season 8, what I forgot was a certain characters from the show:

Diaspro:

She never changes. I’m surprised that she’s even in season 8, waaay too annoying character.

She used to be Sky’s fiancé, but that was long time ago and seeing her again is kinda ugh...She shouldn’t be too much important at all.

Overused character and her arc should have been done long time ago as well.

Selina:

Putting Selina as Bloom’s childhood friend was kinda weird, since we don’t see any backstory before Bloom started going to Alfea/met Stella nor any friends or classmates she used to have. Which is also kind of a plot hole in my opinion Because if they showed backstory (school she attended before Alfea) they would certainly show some friends she used to have as a kid. (They did show her ex- boyfriend in season 4, the guy that never made appearance in seasons 1-3, they showed her in class in Gardenia,but that’s only in comics and I don’t know if that’s canon o not, they did show her childhood in the movie but with Vanessa and Mike only.) Selina is nowhere to be seen as a kid so far till in season 6. That’s how their story goes I guess.

Since she’s character from season 6 and I only watched few clips from season 6, they probably showed some backstory with her and Bloom.

She’s nowhere to be seen in season 7 and season 8 so far.

Chimera:

Seems Chimera was a character excursively for season 3, but she could have made 1 or 2 more appearance, since they are forcing Diaspro even in season 8.

She made appearance in Season 4 Winx Club Book, to take revenge on Stella, but as I said I don’t know if any of comics or books are canon to the original story.

Now back to those season 8 transformations:

Cosmix:

Since season 8 is space-themed, they could at least except all those glitters and shiny stuff on them really put some space like design on them.

Same wings, no comment.

I feel like they were going for space suit dress design for Cosmix and it could be seen here.

Enchantix:

Oh boy...

Left: Enchantix (Season 8)

Right: Enchantix (Season 3)

(Sorry for the bad quality of image,but here’s the link)

Original is still my favorite. Newer version is meh, I don’t like it. at all.

Sirenix

Winx Club - Sirenix Season 5 Vs Season 8 [COMPARISON]

Made their dresses more colorful, they probably wanted to make more sea/ocean themed.

Everything I said about sirenix above goes same for this one.

They sure look like kids...

Butterflix

Winx Club - Butterflix Season 7 VS Season 8 [COMPARISON]

There wasn’t much of a difference except makeup and heels mostly.

What got my eye when I was watching this was how their hands and feet have smaller proportion than the original as well.

But doll like eyes are still there! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Nick Specials:

I’m not gonna talk about them separately, there’s no need.

I’m just gonna say, it was unnecessary really.

They cut alot of scenes and other stuff from seasons 1 and 2, and they tried putting season 1 and 2 in 1 or 2 hours, i don’t know and I don’t care really because I know they were trying to make a connection between other seasons such as season 5 to 8, since there are alot of plot holes when Nick took over the cartoon/series.

They never showed Charmix as a separate transformation with power ups from season 2. Instead they named base fairy form Charmix...As far as I knew power ups were there for a reason in season 2,but nevermind I guess...

They changed Stella’s speech from:

“Stella, Fairy of of the Sun and the Moon”

to:

“Stella, Fairy of of the Shining Sun “

Which I don’t blame them because we never actually saw Stella using any of the moon powers or any moon spells.

Comparasion of 1 scene fom Rai and Nick version:

When Bloom screams her speech (I know it sounds weird I didn’t know how to write it, you know what I mean.)

Right: Rai Left:Nick

As far as I know you need to open your mouth wide to be able to scream loud that’s for sure and you see here in Rai’s version she has an expression, she’s angry and that stays even when she screams whereas in Nick’s version she kind of looks angry but that only sticks around few minutes and then she looks expressionless (or not changing her face at all, I don’t know right word for that.)

I’m not planning to watch season 8 as well as season 6 and 7.

Since they changed story too much, and they have a lot plot holes they left, they probably/maybe fixed it with Nickelodeon english dub,but then again I highly doubt that.

I understand they changed art style probably because Winx as a cartoon right now is aimed for kids, where originally was aimed for teens and kids back then I think, but I could tell for sure that story is aimed for kids now when you compare season 1,2 and 3 to season 5,6,7 and 8.

I thought of including spin offs and movies into this post but it’s not relatable to the title of this post so I will do it separately and there are some stuff I left that are connected with series and the movies,but I will write it in the next post when I get to write about Winx movies.

#if you want to read it go ahead but let me warn you this post is super SUPER long #rant #winx club #winx #long post #music is soooo nostalgic v_v #I think that was all

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