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bonenzone ยท 4 years
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If there's anyone from this cast who's handeling this crisis with integrity its kat. She's out here having zoom chats with her fans for free, sending autographs, posting fan arts. She's having zoom meetings with UN high commisionner and ambassadors (including Cate Blanchett and Ben Stiller). Highlighting different causes and using her platform for good. While others are going to birthday parties and making OCD jokes (I wont name names).
Are you serious?! ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜ I mean, I'd expect no less but that's still so lovely to hear. She's just an incredible human.
I tapped out of celeb stuff after 'Imagine' so I'm really out of the loop. I don't even know who the last two references are about ๐Ÿ‘€ But thanks for the Kat update.
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gwenygma ยท 5 years
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My thoughts on Gotham finale
Since people's views seem to be very subjective about the finale, I'd like to first say what kind of Gotham viewer I am: I'm a fan of the whole batverse, not just this show. I'm okay with the writers not 100% sticking to the comics, as long as they respect some basic aspects. To me, the relevancy of the plot is more important than making fans happy, I can accept heartbreaking stuffs happening if it's necessary to move the story forward or if it holds a strong symbolic. I have favorite characters and ships, but I'll be as impartial as possible in this post.
As a general opinion, I'd say that I hated most of the writing, but still enjoyed watching the characters in their final form. I'm okay with the episode being rushed and the words "Batman" and "Joker" not being pronounced since these were restrictions caused by the production, but there were still huge problems that ruined the episode for me.
I loved: -the lightning and set, on point as always -the costumes, especially Bruce's, Riddler's and J's -Lily Simmons's Selina -Jeremiah's Joker (even though I wish he had more hair) -Barbara Lee trying to save her mother like the future Batgirl she's going to be -Edward and Oswald's interactions and how Ed was super excited about everything concerning Oswald
But hated: -mostly the way they handled the 10 years time skip (no adult aging, Penguin and Riddler being locked up for so long without escaping, Aubrey James still being the mayor after 15 years...). I had to spend the whole episode pretending the time skip lasted five years instead to make it bearable. -about the costumes: Jim having his iconic mustache for only two minutes then shaving it, Selina not having her Catwoman mask (and unecessarily uncovering her face during the robbery), Barbara Lee not being a redhead (it's a recessive gene, it can be plausible even if both her parents aren't natural redheads) and Oswald's weight gain looking like he just put two pillows under his shirt (would CGI really have been too much? Monica had it in Friends, and it was a 1990s sitcom!) -Barbara Lee not being called Babs, not just because of the reference, but people always calling her by her mothers' names makes it feel like she has no identity of her own. -Bruce and Jeremiah's confrontation being way too short and reduced to Bruce throwing two batarangs -Edward and Oswald being locked up instead of becoming more dangerous villains -Jim and Bruce claiming to represent justice, but being sexist by arresting the male criminals and letting the female criminals run free -Bruce being cold to Selina after what he did to her -Oswald and Jim's relationship: I know they had to become enemies, but this is too much. Oswald just had to stop doing Jim any favors and possibly wanting to end his career, they're not supposed to be mortal enemies. So I repeat: Jim locking up Oswald for ten years was uneccesary, still chasing him after Oswald lost an eye for Gotham (while letting Barbara run free) and maybe locking him up until he escapes would have been enough. -Penguin and Riddler, the two main and smartest villains of the show, not doing anything important and being depicted as weak idiots. Biggest loss of potential here.
But what bugged me the most, and where the finale has utterly failed for me, is that Gotham was doing perfectly fine without Batman. Bruce didn't need to come back at all! They should have shown a city where crime and corruption is still continuing, Penguin and Riddler's power having grown over the years, Jim struggling with it in spite of being the Commisionner... A city that needed a powerful vigilante! Aside from warning Jim and his partner about the C4 once, everything Bruce did, a regular cop could have done it too: knocking Jeremiah up from a distance (also, can we talk about Jim always rescuing his daughter alone? why does he never bring back-up?), arresting Oswald and Edward when they're at their weakest, "making" Selina return the diamond... In the end, the most consequential thing Bruce did by coming back was encouraging the most dangerous criminal of Gotham to escape Arkham!
Say whatever you want about this episode, I think this finale is failed. I considered Gotham as the best show to ever exist at first, but the writing went downhill since the season 3 finale with all of its plotholes. I still consider Gotham my favorite live-action show though: it has helped me during the worst years of my life and it will always have a special place in my heart. Maybe if the writing staff had more time and less limitations, the show could have lived up to its full potential.
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