#honestly I'm of the Opinion that felipe really did just get spooked and slipped off of the balcony but jason chose not to rescue him

[nightwings-robin]

I kind of hate the over-correction some Jason Todd fans have done from making Jason the "Angry Robin" into the "uwu soft boy Robin" instead. Jason is neither of those things.

like no I don't want Jason to be known as the Angry Robin when literally ALL of the Robins have been angry at some point. but I also don't want to see him be sanitized either, you know? there were times when Jason was angry and violent and I hate it when some fans deny that anger. (not all Jason fans do this of course but I have seen far too many fans try to claim he actually never did anything questionable before he died. but also, none of the questionable things he did should be used as justification for his murder, which I have seen fans and writers alike do.)

Jason was multi-faceted as Robin. sometimes he really was excessively violent and sometimes he was sweet and goofy.

here he is strangling Poison Ivy in Detective Comics #534 in 1984:

(granted, this example is pre-crisis Jason so he's not canon anymore but still, my point stands.)

then there's that time he tried to choke Two-Face to death in Batman (1940) #411 in 1987. (for context, Two-Face killed Jason's father, Willis Todd.)

he really does seem okay with killing Two-Face here and Batman had to pull Jason off and give him a lecture in the Batcave. the point is that he did very much have angry and violent outbursts as Robin. he did very much have some violent tendencies that shouldn't be overlooked.

but he was also innocent and cute at times too! he literally ordered milk while at a bar in Detective Comics #570 in 1987:

he's pretty goofy in this whole issue actually, it's quite funny!

and there's this cute panel in Batman (1940) #385 from 1985:

he also wasn't always irrational and reckless like a lot of modern comics and fans tend to portray him as. I've seen so many adaptations portray him as jumping into trouble without thinking of the consequences first but that wasn't really always the case.

there were times, such as in Batman (1940) #370 from 1984, when Jason was shown to be level headed and decided not to go after some criminals without Batman's help:

don't get me wrong, there totally were times when he was impatient and didn't wait for Bruce but my point is that it wasn't ALL the time.

also some of the times when he was excessively violent was when he was trying to protect someone, like in Batman (1940) #422 in 1988:

(for context, the guy Jason is punching had just hit and threatened to stab a woman implied to be a sex worker.)

I understand not wanted Jason to be known as the "Angry Robin" but that doesn't mean we should ignore the times when he actually was angry. I don't want Jason to be known as the reckless, angry Robin who never followed orders but I also don't think pure, innocent, sweetie pie fits him either.

the point I'm trying to make is that there is no "Angry Robin." they were ALL angry at times but that was never the main character trait for any of them. just please stop boiling characters down to one or two traits when those weren't even their main traits to begin with.

these characters have nuance! Jason has nuance! he can be a character who chokes and strangles bad guys while also caring about school and studying. he can be a character who isn't bothered by the death of criminals while also making puns and jokes. the same character can do all of these things! he's multi-faceted!

#jason todd #robin #dc comics #I thought about talking in-depth about that time he Allegedly pushed that rapist off of a building in batman 1940 issue 424 in 1988 #but considering we don't know for sure if jason really killed that guy I'm leaving it out #honestly I'm of the Opinion that felipe really did just get spooked and slipped off of the balcony but jason chose not to rescue him #but that speculation deserves its own post and this one was already getting long #also I debated whether or not to even include stuff from jason's pre-crisis time as robin since that version of him isn't canon anymore #but I think those examples are still important #also also ID for all of the comic panel screenshots are in the ALT text