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#i just really want another multiheaded ancient
secondtolastfr · 2 months
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I know they said there won't be an ancient before mistjam (and honestly probably not any time soon) but speculating about this stuff is fun. Poll time!
Pro and con evidence, and some breed speculation below the cut:
Light
Pros: Currently Pearlcatchers are the only readily available Light breed change and a Light ancient would open a lot of doors. It would also be cool to answer the settle the lore implications of the Imperials being the Lightweaver's first children. Plus, there's a chance it could be done before Brightshine, so it could get its own fest gene.
Cons: The lore in of itself poses an issue. I feel like there's a lot of expectation put on this flight's ancient, so I think staff would want to take their time with it and make sure it's the best it can be. Depending on what they want to do with it, Brightshine might not be far enough away.
Speculation: I like to believe it could be Emperors. It would be cool for the lore, and also just to have undead dragons. Other than that, I think a unicorn-esque breed or a bird-inspired breed would be nice.
Wind
Pros: Wind hasn't had a fun new thing in a while. Out of the three flights left, I feel like Wind is pretty easily overlooked, and their ancient is a chance to have some fun and give the flight some love.
Cons: Both of Wind's breeds are treasure breeds and readily available in the AH. With Undel's statement about no ancients coming before MistJam, I wonder how that will work out with their fest gene if their ancient comes after their fest.
Speculation: I know they said Couriers wouldn't be an available breed, but imagine if they were! Couriers were mentioned in Wind's BotE story, and I can't think of a better established species for Wind. I feel like the community has had their fill of noodly dragons, so a birdy dragon would work well here. With the Windsinger's history of traveling around, this would be a great opportunity to drop the first Coliseum breed too.
Earth
Pros: Rockbreaker's is months away, so plenty of time for the breed to get its own fest gene. Dustcarve was an awesome set up, and the BotE story has some incredible implications too. Like Wind, I feel like Earth is fairly overlooked.
Cons: Out of these three flights, Earth got the most recent addition of Obelisks. It's a little hard to think of much evidence for or against Earth, to be honest.
Speculation: I still have hopes for a true turtle breed with the shell as the secondary! I could also imagine a dinosaur breed, like an Archaeopteryx, Pteranodon, or Pterodactyl. Or, since we've already got two absolute units, the ancient could just be Little Guys. Earthwyrms, if you will.
Unaligned
Pros: It would be funny
Cons: Definitely a wildcard here. I personally think this is the least likely to happen any time soon, especially with the introduction of ancient fest genes. Realistically I think staff is going to focus on the default elements before they consider an unaligned ancient. Again, the lore would be weird here. And how exactly would we get the eggs? Through brewing, like with Baldwin? Or maybe through the coliseum? There's a lot of questions about introduction and execution to be asked here.
Speculation: Who the hell knows lmfao. I like the idea of a chicken ancient through Baldwin. Or, if dragons can be created through amalgamations of elemental energy like staff has said, what if it was a literal amalgamation? Like a chimera, or a tarasque, or even a proper hydra. If there was ever a time to go absolute ham with a design, I think it would be here.
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discorainycomputer · 25 days
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I was bored at uni one day so decided to make hypothetical pokemon teams for the Touden party. Some are based on vibes, some are references to the characters themselves. Explanations below, at some places I go into spoiler territory so read at your own risk. I dont know how to spoilertag so im just gonna paste a lot of "/" so people have to click read more.
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Laios: In general a very monster focused team. Initially i considered filling his entire team with dragons, but found that idea pretty boring. Hydreigon is a perfect fit for Laios. It fits both his love of dragons, multiheaded monsters, and it fits one of his titles at the end of the story: Laios of the Three heads. Escavalier is a reference to the living armor, which i think is the coolest monster in the entire series. Thats not enough to have it as a team member though, so the real reason i placed it on Laios' theme is that its Kensuke. Pyroar is The Winged Lion, as Laios is the only person in the story who truly understands it. Nidoking is a monster, but it also has king in its name. Lycanrock (day) is a reference to his childhood dogs. Finally Lickylicky references his endless apetite. I chose Lickylicky over snorlax, because Lickylicky is more niche in its appeal, and Laios is the type of person who likes things other would say "Thats stupid" to.
Marcille: I struggled a bit with this team, but in general i wanted to focus on her Elf identity, which mean some more feminine pokemon. However i also wanted to focus on her ancient magic and magical capabilities. I think Gardevoir is a perfect fit for her. Its a very caring pokemon, and its a very powerful psychic type. I added Cradily because i felt it fit her a lot. Its an ancient pokemon, and its a plant. You could see this as fitting with her staff and such, but all in all i just thought it really fit Marcille a lot. Next is Trevenant, which is a reference to her staff, Ambrosia. Its also a ghost type pokemon and has a darker design than just a tree, so i felt it was a nice tie in to her having darker/ancient magic than she lets on at first. Meowstic is a pokemon i put in simply for the vibes, I feel it fits her a lot. No other reason really. Gothitelle is here to reference her Dungeon Lord outfit, but i also think its a pokemon she would like. At last Spiritomb. This is a reference to her ancient magic, and i feel no other pokemon could represent an old unknown horror quite as well as Spiritomb.
Senshi: I wanted to really include Senshis key characteristics here, but really ended up with a lot of food pokemon. Mudsbray is a reference to Anne, both the horse and the Kelpie. Torterra is a pokemon i think senshi would like. I initially wanted to use Golem or another rock type to reference his farm golems, but i think Torterra just does the idea much better seeing as its basically an ecosystem in itself. Kangaskhan is a reference to his parental role in the party, but also his need to take care of the younger generation. Perrserker is a reference to his dwarf identity, i just think its neat. Appletun is an apple pie, and Farfetch'd seems like a nice pokemon to help you make food.
Chilchuck: With Chilchuck i wanted to both think of his status as the party rogue/trap disarmer and his position as a family man at heart. I wanted to reference his politics, but found it hard to represent with pokemon. First up we have Thievul, which is just a great fit for him. Its a thief fox that steps around silently, i think he would really like this thing. Klefki is his disarming tools. Maushold is him and his family. I think Pyukumuku is actually the best representation of him. Its small, and mostly utility focused, which is really his place in the party. However its also really cool so theres that, i guess. Lastly Galarian Stunfisk represents traps, and Gimmieghoul is his (least) favourite monster The Mimic.
Izutsumi: I wanted to emphazise that shes both a cat and a angsty teenager, but ended up with a very edgy team. I suppose it fits her though. Liepard is a scheming cat pokemon. It also fits because it has a rivalry with Thievul, which is in Chilchucks team. I think it was a nice fit as they basically have a grumpy dad/teenage daughter relationship at times. Sneasel is a mischievous little guy, which is basically a description of Izutsumi. Greninja is a ninja, and Luxio kinda looks like Izutsumi. Zoroark and Umbreon are both pretty edgy pokemon which i loved as a teenager, but i do think they fit her design. This is probably the weakest team on this list, but I still feel it fits her a lot.
Falin: I wanted to represent Falins place in the story, aswell as some of her likes. Dracozolt is a direct reference to her status as a hybrid bird/dragon/human monster. Its a perfect fit really. Hatterene represents her status as a "damsel in distress" that the party need to save. Although i think shes more than that, I felt it fit as Hatterene also has powerful magic. Oranguru i thought was a funny pick, i think it fits her healing mage aesthetic, and they basically have the same design really. Scolipede is a reference to her love of bugs and Reuniclus is both a psychic type and a body. I think it was a nice fit for her. Lastly we have Alolan Marowak, who in design is an exorcist, which is a nice little nod to her and Laios' conversation when they were children. Her potentially becoming a wandering exorcist.
And thats that. I made this just for fun so there are probably better choices for some of the characters. thanks.
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