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cinnamonest · 3 years

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I got these and more asks regarding the post from last night so I wanted to elaborate and explain some things, and also make another point about the anniversary thing and clarify for anyone confused. After this I promise I'll shut up about this lol sorry

1) yeah please do NOT come after the VAs for any of this, not even the actual developer side either is at fault. This is largely an issue with the PR and marketing and higher up people. It's really awful that some people are harassing people who have no responsibility here. And thanks to the original asker's reply, I feel like I'm really bad at conveying my thoughts so I tend to overexplain lol, but thanks that means a lot.

2) I have seen people confused on this so if you didn't already, you should know that this isn't just about the anniversary so much as the anniversary was a final straw. While Honkai has similar rewards/exchange for irl money as genshin, mihoyo itself has some of the worst in comparison to other gachas from other developers. Games like Arknights, Granblue, Azur Lane, Dragalia Lost, hell even a cutesy casual gacha app like LoveNikki have much better real money to game currency ratios, huge anniversaries where they give out tons of free shit, and much more generous systems (such as Arknights giving free 10 pulls with a lot of events/new characters/etc). All despite being smaller, less profitable games. There's major glaring issues with the game that have gone unresolved for a long time despite people asking over and over to change it. It's a combination of the rewards, general stuff, and mihoyo's refusal to solve certain issues for a long time that has people upset.

In any industry, any company is going to be held to the standards set by the mainstream industry, which is what is happening here. It is natural to hold a company to it's competitors for comparison and expect them to match standards, especially when the company that is lacking is the richer one and could easily meet the standards if they were willing to.

This is especially true for people who put money into the game. Due to the nature of gachas/online games, companies that produce these games are usually very adamant on rewarding players because whales/P2Ws, people who buy welkin and similar stuff, etc keep the game alive. When they do not match the standard of the industry, those people will feel unappreciated and go elsewhere eventually, which means they will not be able to afford much progress, then even F2Ps won't have content, and the game will burn out.

3) I probably should have clarified this last post but, I know review-bombing does seem like a kinda shitty tactic at first and I get that, but the reason people are doing that now is because mihoyo has completely ignored people complaining for months normally, and even now has started to censor and ban people, deleted critical posts, etc. Basically it's clear that mihoyo will just ban and censor criticism until people do something that actually forces them to listen, hence review bombing. Banning/censoring criticism is a really, really bad move for any company, historically speaking, it's insulting to players who keep the company afloat and results in losses. The review bombing + a lot of people uninstalled the app apparently + people who usually pay refusing to do so anymore, all of that hits them to where they can't afford to ignore it when people do it en masse. Because it will cost them money/players.

What people are kinda really upset about, even more than rewards itself, is just the silence and censorship on their end, which is more frustrating than the lack of rewards itself. I did have some sympathy for them up until they started censoring and deleting criticism on their site. At that point they're doing this to themselves by doing that.

4) Also, notably, this has worked with plenty of other game devs. You may remember the disaster that was Fallout 76. Bethesda also responded poorly at first, but spamming bad reviews and horrible coverage for Fallout 76 got Bethesda's attention, and they went the whole nine yards formally acknowledging the complaints and more or less apologizing to the whole world of players at E3 and even gave refunds, which is a very surprisingly humble thing for a company of their level of fame to do. The situation calmed down because people felt listened to, and while Fallout 76 was kinda a lost cause and didn't get fixed, the idea is that the refunds/open and honest communication restored the consumer base's relationship to Bethesda. That was a big blow, but Bethesda was willing to take that hit to maintain the sense of communication and mutual respect/value between players and devs.

In contrast, with mihoyo, what most people have been trying to beg/bargain for for an anniversary rewards is a free permanent banner 5 star, which would cost mihoyo essentially literally nothing.

So far they have responded by banning people for literal years on hoyolab, deleting posts, banning people from various social platforms etc, for criticism. Even putting whether or not that's ok aside, it's very unusual and not how game companies usually handle these things, and can only end badly for them.

Also mihoyo has had time to fix this -- it's not like Fallout 76 where they released the game and then the backlash came very suddenly and they had to scramble to prepare a response/plan and needed time. People have been complaining about these rewards for well over a week, so they could have easily fixed it by now if they had any intention of listening to people's complaints, especially considering the proposed fix of a single free permanent 5 star would be very simple and quick to implement.

5) also? it's extra unfortunate and really a marketing team issue bc they could have *profited* from giving more, if they opened rewards to new players as most gachas do. Genshin is incredibly popular right now, to the extent that a lot of people in the gaming/weeb sphere who don't play it, but still know of it, and even know a bit about it.

If you were someone who had never played genshin but had been considering downloading it for a long time, but just kept putting it off or forgetting, and heard "hey join now and you get free Diluc/Keqing," that would have convinced a lot of people to go ahead and join, and they would inevitably get sucked into the game and bring mhy profit. So it's a little strange imo that they chose not to do that, it would have been beneficial to them.

6) also, be aware that the glider we're now getting was supposed to be paid originally. Releasing it free now is damage control. It's also, well, a glider. Again, while it is pretty, it's paltry in comparison to the industry norm and does not have much use to most people.

Finally, criticizing all of this/the game/mihoyo does not mean people hate the game. I do see some people lashing out in defense of mihoyo and I get that bc they produce something we all really like. I really really do not want to see genshin become "that one game that was super popular for a year or so and then died" -- that's why people want improvements, because if improvements aren't made, that's where it's headed. What people are asking for right now is stuff that is very easily in mihoyo's capability and would not cost them much of anything. It would be one thing to ask them for something that would cut their profits or take time to develop, but that's not what's happening. People are asking for very little in the scope of their capabilities/the norm.

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fatis-bibliotheca · 3 years

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Just because I can’t stop speculating on what might be the case with Teyvat here, I’m going to toss out another one:

Teyvat’s world has already experienced a World-Ending level Honkai event.

Why this theory could work:

The false night sky: although we know the sky is fake we don’t know the exact how or why of it -- but we do know the moon does NOT have any phases. Normally a person could overlook this as ‘well they just didn’t implement it’, but MHY has been known to pay attention to the smallest of details.

There might not be a healthy world outside Teyvat: all of the remaining archons who left when the seven were established were said to go out across the seas and are now referred to as ‘evil gods’. But what if there really is nothing out there? What if that fleeing to the outer world is a lot more serious than we thought, that Teyvat is just the bubble most of humanity is kept safely within? If everything else is potentially the abyss or similar to the sea of quanta encroaching on the world, Teyvat’s world might already be dying.

It’s kind of fishy that with seven elements in the world, the seven archons all reside fairly close to each other (in relativity to a world map). Bring in the Vision system to make sure only the worthy harness elemental powers despite other races showing the capability to do so without a vision, the constellation system being somehow physical in that a constellation literally fell from the sky and we have an incredibly suspect setup.

If Teyvat is a sort of shelter for the remnants of humanity it could explain why the various authorities in the world keep it from advancing too far. Any civilization that does so is punished or entirely wiped out if they fail to heed the warnings.

Even though it is natural for humanity to progress and to have to fight for their own survival, Celestia and the archons have taken that choice away from humanity. They don’t want to see it nearly wiped out again because the world might not survive another incident.

Ofc, the genshin -- the vision wielders -- are the unstable factor here. They can ascend to godhood and witness the truth of the world and decide from there if they wish to continue protecting it or establish a world elsewhere (suggested by venti at the end of the manga prologue). What happens when someone ascends but rejects the truth of the world? We haven’t witnessed anyone’s reaction to ascending yet, we don’t know anything about the process.

But it could be seen as unfair, incredibly so. Shouldn’t humanity be able to decide on its own if it can handle this? Is living in a stagnant bubble better than the ability to dream and reach for the stars themselves?

And perhaps that’s what the Abyssal Twin has decided - the truth of the world is cruel, and people have the right to face the truth.

#The Queen's Ramblings [OOC];;#long post #Enter game theory ending quote here #This is one of a few theories I have regarding the current state of teyvat #i definitely think the gods are doing their best to prevent a honkai awakening/event #but this one is essentially 'what if that's because one happened already'#what if we step outside this false bubble and it's just honkai and quantum beasts lol #this is just for fun don't take this too seriously I just like to speculate

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