#idk maybe i'm not the target group or maybe i'm too picky with things but idk reading/listening to it was kinda tiresome

[darlington-v]

The piglin is fine, they just moved him and put another in its place, they laughed at the message because someone was said Nicheal in a serious way, they haven't actually hurt Michael and only messed with/killed their own stuff. The reason everyone is mad over the stupid extreme protectiveness of Michael is because messing with, stealing and causing random fights because of pets has been a long standing thing in the server but only when it comes to Tommy, Tubbo and Ranboo do fans care. No one makes this much of a fuss for anyone else's lore it's only for then do they start screaming at streams. Hannah lost her elytra and was made fun on by fans for being upset when that actually connects to her lore and fairness on the server. Eret I can't even count how many times lore got messed with or fell through but it's shrugged off and it's sad only seeing Eret taken seriously when it comes to their lore because now it's connected to Ranboo and Tubbo.

I get saying dteam have full rule to break the rules on the server is bad but also it's very one sided when it comes to people's care about the rules when they haven't broken anything and in all honesty are doing lore rn. Sapnaps character has always been an awful guy to other pets pets enjoying killing them because they're helpless and will make others made, George likes to cause problems and sticks by his friends no matter what even of they're in the wrong and Dream wants to mess with the server so joining in a seamless taking of something precious is on point rn. Also again the Michael is fine he is literally unharmed and it seems they did this to see how everyone reacts which was that Sam and Eret literally replaced Micheal with another on.

This isn't dteam bullying, Eret wasn't being targeted and I think a lot of people rn me included are sick of how picky people are about caring about lore. It's flat out "my streams stories matter more then you guys" and that's unfair. This brings more to the lore and can have the chance of Tubbo facing Dream and Techno actually had pets killed by Sapnap so that can be worked in. Idk what the problem is, I am more annoyed by fan reacts to natural on the fly lore happening when they cry about wanting it (aka they only want it from Tommy, Tubbo and Ranboo messing with others not them getting messed with back)

I don't mean this to come off as rude at all I still fully respect you and this is just became I think your post recapping things was near sighted in what this mean. You have to understand that fans that what the server active besides lore are frustrated rn

okay this is a long and disheveled ask so for the time being i'm going to disregard the specific lore aspect, because i'm not focused on SPECIFICALLY beeduo lore. i do not CARE about specifically beeduo lore.

what i care about is the way dteam totally disregards not only well mannered fans but also their own friend. like i UNDERSTAND they are doing this to... "get back" at toxic twitter stans? to maybe try to discourage unacceptable behavior?

but they're LITERALLY not. they're not DOING what they THINK they are. they're just adding fuel to the flames and LAUGHING when the fire grows, as if the fire wasn't supposed to grow when they poured the fuel on it.

like, the smart thing to do is to just put the fucking fire out.

to elaborate out of this complex metaphor, i'm saying passive aggressive behavior gets you no where. passive aggressive behavior is lashing out, which we all do. it's human to lash out.

but in their situation where they hold the power over this group of people, the solution to stop unacceptable behavior is to DENOUNCE that behavior. which is easier said than done, but clearly necessary when fans of your smp as a whole are taking a minecraft rp TOO seriously.

and there's a difference between taking something seriously versus taking something TOO seriously.

the too seriously comes in when you're sending death threats. when you're sincerely wishing bodily harm on others.

but taking it seriously isn't harmful. especially when that's what the rp asks of its fans! yes! it's minecraft rp, which is why the narrative being shared asks us to suspend our disbelief during arcs like exile, prison, the egg. when the tone is dark and serious, the story is taking itself seriously.

and in an effort to piss people who take the minecraft rp TOO seriously, they caught people who JUST take it seriously in the crossfire.

they LITERALLY ridicule eret's message and you can hear it in their tone. the whole tone of that part of the stream is MOCKING. dream asks for sad music when he read's eret's message which makes it look pitiful! though as if we, the audience, are SUPPOSED to laugh at eret for taking it seriously enough to use the @\everyone ping on discord when he notifies the server and asks them to return or at least keep michael safe. like it's ridiculous that he'd ask that and further send a ping out that notifies EVERYONE.

i don't think that's funny and most of all i think it's immature. and honestly hypocritical when dream himself helps write these dark and SERIOUS aspects. why are you going to mock your fellow server member for taking a server rp seriously when YOU asked for that.

like i said, i understand it could be an attempt to discourage unacceptable behavior but this is NOT the way you do that! NOT by ridiculing your own friend for doing something YOU inherently asked of them! you asked for that the MINUTE the smp began to take the story it was telling seriously!

you discourage behavior by being DIRECT. you discourage behavior by having a SERIOUS stream where you directly acknowedge SPECIFIC actions you've seen from YOUR fandom YOUR community and you say, "NOT in my community. you DON'T behave like that."

you outline SPECIFIC instances and you shut them down!

and i think MULTIPLE dsmp members should do this! but they don't fucking communicate. i don't know why and i don't know what may finally get the point across to do that, but bigger ccs with fanbases who do have a BIGGER, and therefore MORE VOCAL, portion of hostile and toxic fans should UNDENIABLY communicate with their fellow ccs. they should do more to discourage damaging behavior that THEIR fans are inflicting on their friends, their fellow ccs. this includes both benchtrio AND dteam.

because clearly it's beeduo, benchtrio, that side of the fandom being malicious to dteam. but the people you're talking about being dickheads to hannah include dteam stans! i've seen it on my tl before! which is like... why doing this shit doesn't help!

like i'm sorry but indirectly acknowledging something and just RIDICULING it instead is NOT going to help ANYTHING. you have the power over this group of people! butt them out! your platform is big enough that you won't be affected by weeding out bad apples who wish bodily harm on your friends. who are MEAN to your friends!

their behavior is childish! when you have the power in this dynamic, that's childish.

humiliating and poking fun at in that way IS bullying! it's school ground bullying.

what they did was careless and immature. like beyond lore and minecraft, they were just being cruel. which isn't okay. like when you're the cc, when you're the person in the position of power you HAVE to be the bigger person. you have to! instead of being mean and malicious RIGHT back, you need to be mature and tell it to your fans straight.

i understand it is hard! it is hard to be the bigger person. i cannot understand from a cc perspective but i can understand from being someone who has positions of power in different dynamics! and it is possible! like, phil and sneeg do a good job at this! they're examples of this! sometimes they're a little snarky with it, but they UNDENIABLY shut the shit down.

the point BEING that as a group of people with fanbases THEYRE AWARE have a toxic streak in them, they need to do the mature thing and directly address that instead of passive aggressively humiliating everyone taking an smp seriously that already demanded that of them.

like saying "they're not TRUE fans" or "you're NOT a fan if you do xyz" is not enough. because it's easy to let that flow through you. it's easy to disregard it, especially if you see your cc liking clapbacks on the timeline.

you HAVE to call out specific behaviors you don't want to see and you HAVE to emphasize that you don't want that in your community! not that they're NOT a fan, but that YOU don't WANT THEM as a fan! that this is not a space for them. that their fav ccs don't even want them here! confirm the idea that "your cc wouldn't like you!"

and again, this includes benchtrio!

like i KNOW its both toxic benchtrio and dteam fans being hateful. because they're BIGGER fanbases. like, i'm not upset about the fuckin lore i'm upset about the principle. the fuckin values at their core here.

and i think it's shitty to RIDICULE your friend's VERY sincere message just to be a dickhead to toxic fans in a collective fandom of yours.

like i'm BEGGING you to disregard lore right now and instead INSPECT THE PRINCIPLES AND BEHAVIOR at hand here.

again, really it all comes down to the horrible lack of communication in this server but that doesn't excuse them, or anyone really, of being bullies when they're grown ass men! when they should know better!

like, i don't REALLY have stakes in this anymore. i don't care about the dream smp as much as i used to unfortunately, i just care about people i look up to actually exercising emotional maturity and kindness. and so i'm a little bothered. i've lost respect for them.

and in regards to people being "picky," there are people with various interests in this fandom! yknow, given how many perspectives of this narrative there is! individuals have individual preferences! storylines and lore are among them!

that's not ABOUT "my streams matter more than yours," that's about how evident it is when a story element is fixed versus flexible! it's about benchtrio and beeduo fans making up a significant portion of the dream smp fandom, much like the dteam fans making up another large portion! hence the very vocal and wide spread discourse with THIS issue versus the HANNAH issue, which involved boomer and hannah! not beeduo and dteam! like undeniably if boomer and hannah currently held the same widespread attention of the majority of the fandom, the same discourse would have taken place! because hannah's wings were a FIXED element! she had lore PLANNED for her wings! but purely objectively, they do not have that attention currently, which is why it SEEMED to go under the bridge.

like you understand that you can apply the same principle to real world instances right? like... especially in activism? why certain movements go under the radar because not enough people are AWARE of them? why spreading awareness is so important in activism?

like you have to look at this from an objective perspective in order to see the principles im talking about here! it's not benchtrio fans being whiners, it's literally that, along with dteam fans, they make up such a big portion of the fandom! anything else gets washed over! because the fandom is SO. BIG. like, being someone who is interested in beeduo, im going to be NATURALLY curious enough to search out the clip being talked about! unlike with hannah, because i'm barely a dsmp fan anymore! i'm hangin on by a thread of interest here. and i'm sure i'm not the only one! because that's how interests work!

like, my opinion doesn't magically change if the people involved changes. like if this situation was the same with boomer and hannah, i'm maintaining the same opinion! further more if boomer, punz, and sam decided to mockingly read a sincere message from hannah that pinged everyone notifying how fucking with her wings would fuck with her lore, i'd be pissed! ESPECIALLY if my interests were fixed on those characters! i'm not UPSET about the specific situation here. i'm upset about the lack of manners and kindness and overall immaturity.

ykw? to take it a step further, if it had been TECHNO, a cc ive stayed a fan of, who had been ridiculing others, my opinion would not change but my disappointment would only be DEEPER. like it is about the principle of the situation here.

like, i'm still unfollowing and breaking mutuals that claim dteam should be allowed to do whatever they want because it's THEIR server. it's a total disregard for manners. like yeah, technically, i guess you're right! by that logic they should, but that's not gonna make them any more likeable. definitely not gonna magically justify their actions and behavior.

TLDR;

i don't take issue with the lore, i take issue with the treatment of others being displayed here. the reason why this situation has more outcry is because, objectively, benchtrio fans and dteam fans make up the largest portions of the fandom. not because anyone is being picky or whiny.

PLEASE, do NOT respond with debate. you can send me an ask, send me a dm, but i'm NOT debating anyone in reblogs.

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