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#if I got if the reactions to it weren't just anti-blackness on 10
clonehub · 1 year
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Fandom anti-Blackness can reach violent levels and every single time (normally, but not always) white fans engage in it, they quickly flip to the innocent card. "IM the one who's being harassed!" they claim as they say the ppl talking abt racism are ripping the fandom apart
Somehow they always know what real racism is. I was accused of harassing people for saying the bad batch was racist on my own blog to my own followers. I also had white people stalk me and lie both to and about me.
I complained about the George Floyd fic being a gross exploitation and how it's mere presence, regardless of how little attention it got, was a sign of some major racism issues. Someone called me a psyop, multiple accused me of being pro censorship, and a third
Said that we actually need racist books to show people that racism is wrong even though this was a stupid fanfiction and also that's not how racism works in the slightest. I said the world would blow up before ppl respect Black ppl and they changed their URL and
Acted like i had put a target on their back for being snappy.
Other Black fans get doxxing and death threats and have their jobs targeted. Some others get the cops called on them. The only thing that ever really rips fandom apart is racism, not Black people talking about it
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jaythelay · 2 months
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If you think someone should change, the first thing to recognize is whether they even need to in the first place.
If you can't come up with why the person does what they do, and can actively show what it makes them into, nothing you say will work.
In politics for example, it's not worth arguing every possible argument. Not all of them are from a place of knowledge or genuine concern, but kneejerk reactions they've been taught to have growing up.
If ya hate furries and want them all gone, you can't say they're all the worst of their community. Because the people you hate, aren't the people you use as examples and excuses to hate them.
You can't say "all furries are pedos" because most of them aren't. Your argument is nothing to these people but a source of frustration. Nothing is gained, nothing is lost, it's just childish and petty. 10 years from now, nothing you did made any difference.
There's a plethora of directions you can take this. It all comes down to actually talking with the people you hate to learn more about them. Because the fact is this, you only hate people when there's been a collective, personal experience you can formulate an argument towards.
When you have None of that experience, you call drag queens pedos, trans people groomers, and black people robbers.
Not a single one of those arguments has place in reality. This is why the only people such has been able to convince, has been those equally as ignorant as they are.
What this means, however, is the prevalence of hate simply can only exist in proportionate efforts between disinformation, and information, what it comes down to, is being able to make someone reflect, based on reality, based on their own actions and mentalities, when you puncture through the barrier of defensiveness, and make them have a moment where they've simply been outplayed.
The fact has always been this, however, Fact will Long Outlast Lies. So long as you put the effort into inform people, be genuine, and experience your own hubris and failures. The only reason anyone has ever smartened up, is because they realized they were dumb, and Can No Longer Sleep Peacefully until That Version of Themselves is Dead and Gone. A Very healthy way of handling things!
Mistakes, and changing from them, means you have the experience needed to change misinformed minds into informed ones. Because you Know Why They're Wrong, not just informationally, but you know the emotion, you know the mindset, you know the failures and mistakes.
This is why Anti-anythings are usually simply wrong. Shit's Far too nuanced to be "destroy it all". Zero tolerance isn't meant to spread like fire, it's meant to be contained to what truly deserves it the most. You don't have a fireplace on your shitty rug for a reason.
It's genuinely hilarious how much I've extrapolated from fanbase drama that applies severely to the rest of the world. I used to be anti-brony, when I was like...13? But I interacted with fans, saw fanart every once in a while, and then watched the show. I got it, it's a good show and people like good shows. Who'da thought that's all it really was. For Both Sides Honestly. But only one will admit that. Bronies. Who figured out in rapid succession they weren't going to change the world.
But my god, if they didn't change me. I honest to god think I'd be a lesser person without that experience. The world didn't change from a children's cartoon, but the fanbase and community? It changed alot of people, and I can only really say, it's been only for the better. Cringe as it may sound, I don't care. The show is Mid at best, but the community back then? Practically a second family. I swear they normalized Alot of healthy mindsets more than the lgbt has in 10 years.
All that to say. It's truly difficult to be "anti-" anything that's not inherently meant to be on fire, when you know that starting fires where you dislike the most stuff, only spreads to stuff you do actually like.
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