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#if i can't figure out a d20 season to rewatch
reitziluz · 3 months
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the migraine continues!!
keep thinking i got rid of it, straining myself with tasks such as hauling groceries up the stairs, (re-?)triggering pain that flares through any pain relief i might have in effect.
hm.
i'm not worried, and it's not too unpleasant, and it is slowly getting better. but the kind of absolute rest my body seems to be demanding is BORING and i am running out of entertainment.
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honorarybigsister · 1 year
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Okay so my running theory for D20 Neverafter is that the solution is fanfiction.
like, the Arthurs run the gamut from grim brothers to disney, and the fairies are definitely trying to sugarcoat the stories, thereby putting every other character into a sugar coma so that they can't remember- let alone tap into- their other times,
the princesses are out of their fucking minds, and the stepmother is seeking total annihilation plus other ulterior motives
and I just figure that a solution to the current dilemma facing Destiny's Children is the open-endedness of fanfiction.
Don't ask me how much weed ive smoked while rewatching the season w my bff
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utilitycaster · 8 months
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thoughts re: skip/norman (also on the aso discourse the d20 fandom went through and also as a big skip/norman fan)
The ultimate problem that I see with the pc concept of skip/norman is that aso had heavy heavy themes of autonomy and "owning yourself", whether that's literally, through gunnie, or figuratively, through syd, margaret, etc. the leading question that was prompted by having one of the pcs literally being something that takes over a body and removes the original owner's control of it was just, WILD to me to tee up and then not explore.
norman was an asshole, for sure, but brennan and zac put just enough effort into making him a realistic person that the way doing brain surgery on him without consent was played straight for comedy felt a little strange. it is fascinating to me to discuss skip's position as a literal parasite in the galaxy and how he still deserves the right to exist and live, and how that intersects with norman's same rights, but aso just didn't have time for that.
and aso is a comedy, and one of my favorite seasons, so it's a pretty small issue that this is kind of shrugged off (that's where I disagree with the people who discoursed about it). like, I don't think that was what the season needed to be about. but, d20 in general is so committed to themes and philosophy uniting the pcs that the glaring hole that is the skip/norman of it all duct-taped over with "ahhh symbiosis is a thing" stands out. skip as a pc concept in the sense of his backstory isn't wildly dark to me (I mean, gunnie's is already pretty awful lmao), but in the sense of what he says in terms of the larger story, he feels a bit out of place.
there's a lot more to say here about how the Wurst crew's actions play into that given that he was their asshole boss, etc etc, but essentially: I thought skip/norman just kind of incidentally brought up some points via backstory/pc concept that were a little too complex for a 18 episode comedy season of dnd.
ps. pib fits perfectly into neverafter imo and I adore him completely
I'm going to be totally honest: I learned about this discourse re: Skip and autonomy long after it happened and my gut reaction was "well that's fucking stupid." I also haven't rewatched it and my memory for D20 seasons is often nowhere near as strong as for Critical Role.
I did not blink once at the concept for two reasons:
I'm familiar with sci fi and "creature that takes over the bodies of others" is a pretty standard trope, and not only that but one that has been played for both extreme horror and comedy. Which isn't to say you can't explore the concerns about autonomy but like...I do not find this to be remotely obligatory, which sort of removes all the concerns raised above. "Oh yeah, brain slugs, I know about those, one took over my cousin for a few years" is to me an entirely valid way in-universe of dealing with it. Cannot stress enough that at no point did this seem weird or horrifying to me. Which doesn't mean that it's not valid for others to feel that way, but it just...did not even register as a thought people would have, because it felt so utterly organic to the genre and universe.
I'm also familiar with actual play and Zac and Brennan were quite careful not to abuse the possession mechanic (to the point of creating Norm so that Zac would essentially have his own PC to possess as his real PC) so I have autonomy concerns re: the metagame.
I will also admit that I found the theme to much more be a case of finding one's place within the tough universe in which the characters must live, rather than autonomy and self-ownership, which puts Skip's story well in step with the rest of the group as he fights against his father's wishes. I should also add that I don't see any disjoint in Starstruck being a comedy. All D20 seasons are comedic; even the more serious ones are still comedic in tone and choice. They've also gone extremely dark at points, and that's a choice one can make in comedy, and in my opinion, a valid one.
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