#juvia needs to find a heart because she sure as heck doesn't have one right now

[gralunaisland]

At what point in the series did you come to the conclusion gruvia was unforgivable as a pairing? To me it was the stupid scarf episode that was supposed to show gruvia in a more serious light but all it showed was that when it comes to juvia so called love, grays feelings, history, and trauma is irrelevant bc her “love” will fix him. Not only that but erza basically told him it has been years, move on and apologize to the person that has no respect for your grief. Ugh

Short Analysis of The Horrific "413 Days" Chapter

That's a great question! Thank you for asking!

Honestly, as unsurprising as it may be, I'd say it was unforgivable at the same moment that I first hated the pairing, which, as I said in a recent ask, was Gray's and juvia's first interaction at Phantom Lord.

Because, at that point, I didn't just dislike her. I hated her. I think it was plenty unforgivable for her to misread and misunderstand everything he did at the level of insanity and then to try to kill him and Lucy, 2 people she didn't know whatsoever, based off of feelings she conjured up in her own mind.

I mean, shouldn't that be the biggest of red flags? To legit be a dangerously and clinically crazy person who is literally fine with actual murder based off of her own delusions? I wouldn't and don't forgive her for that or what she's done to Gray and to so many other people.

There is SO much to unpack from even just their first interaction, and all of it equaled unforgivable for me. (And of course, throughout the course of the show, every action she did just piled on top.) I'll go into it a lil bit, and then go onto the rest of what you said.

It's one thing to accidentally misunderstand someone's words, (because I know I do that a lot on Tumblr because reading is hard ok) but it's definitely another for the meaning of his words to go in one ear and have a completely different meaning on its way out the other, which the manga panel shows us explicitly. Gray's words of "I won't hand [Lucy] over even if I die" turns into "love love love love... a rival in love!!!!" and proceeds to say "Lucy cannot be allowed to live"; she's literally ready to kill someone just because she read waaaay too far into the words spoken by a loyal friend and guildmate.

And that's not even the only instance where she misunderstood him in that scene alone. she mistakes his kindness at saving her life as love, then him saying they could fight more got turned into sex somehow. Those are all just off the top of my head; I really don't want to go rewatch that scene tbh.

In a real scenario, if that happened to you, where a person was doing mental gymnastics just to reinterpret your words to mean something you weren't thinking at all, wouldn't most people be freaked and not want to be in a relationship with them? Wouldn't you want the person you're dating to actually listen to you and hear the words you're saying and understand what you mean? The absolutely negative communication going on in gr///via makes it horrifically toxic, and we knew this since their first meeting.

Sorry not sorry, she's legit insane, and she shouldn't be allowed to walk around freely harassing anyone she chooses. It's also unforgivable for Mashima to force Gray, a traumatized person with a history of hardships and tragic loss with women in his life, into a relationship with an actually dangerously-deranged, mentally-ill, toxic af individual who isn't ever stopped from doing whatever she wants.

(That is not to say mentally ill people can't or shouldn't find love of course. It's the way juvia is, where she leaves no room in her mind for anyone but juvia and juvia's wants, that makes her the type of person who's too crazy to find actual love, because yes, some people just shouldn't be in relationships until they do self-reflection and better themselves.)

I completely agree with you though, Anon, that the 413 Days episode was one of THE lowest moments juvia has, and believe me when I say, though I'm sure you already know, that literally almost every one of juvia's moments are low. (And I also agree about Erza. She was being an actual b*tch this episode and was literally goading juvia on. As if juvia needs help being the disgusting, toxic person she is! Erza is literally pushing a neurotic psychopath onto Gray, and I hate her in these moments for it. Definitely takes my respect and liking of her down so many pegs.)

juvia showed she really didn't actually care about Gray's feelings and trauma in that episode.

"B-but she apologized for being insensitive! And she cried when she thought about how she might've hurt Gray!", a Pro might protest.

I have easy answers for those points.

A, she said sorry, yes, but then immediately went back to being her creepy, crazy, insensitive self by trying to give him a nigh naked body pillow of her as "an apology", with a face that's completely unapologetic and uncaring. If she was really sorry for being insensitive, then she wouldn't be insensitive by pretending like all is well and going back to her bothering of Gray.

If she actually did any sort of actual reflecting on her actions or soul searching due to remorse over bothering Gray, then she would know that he's completely uncomfortable and creeped out by this, and that giving him a lewd, completely inappropriate body pillow (not that you can't do it for your significant other, y'all; it's just inappropriate because Gray clearly doesn't want it, and therefore this is gross, stalkerish behavior) would be a terribly rude idea for a gift.

And if she were truly genuine, then she should know that she should feel guilty all the time when she's being her usual creepy self, and not just guilty because she was being her usual creepy self on a sad day. Doesn't that just show us that she's at least a little self-aware? That she's not being thoughtful by acting the way she does? If she actually thought she was always being a kind, caring, loving person by doing her usual juvia antics to Gray, then why would she feel bad about it just because it's a sad day for Gray? If she were truly never bothering him and was being just kind, then that wouldn't bother Gray despite it being Ur's death day. she does say "it was such an unpleasant day and yet... juvia was treating it like a joyous anniversary", so maybe in her muddled brain she thought Gray was only upset because she was celebrating their love on the day of Ur's passing, but I feel like there is more to unpack from this. If she thought he truly loved her, I feel like she wouldn't feel bad for wanting to celebrate that day and would find him rude for putting something else above her in importance. Idk. Y'all tell me what you think, I just thought of it rn, and I'm processing it.

Even the little author's note isn't taking anything seriously, and it seems to be just as in denial as juvia and some of her fans are. "They cry, they laugh! Even today, juvia's got nothing but Gray on her mind!" Literally no one is laughing at her. Even Erza, the die-hard gr///via fan apparently, is sweat-dropping uncomfortably in the corner. Plus, juvia has Gray on her mind, but she really doesn't have Gray on her mind. I've said it a million times, but juvia is only thinking about her love for Gray, not for Gray and what's good for him.

Also! Notice how Gray's sweat-dropping and not the slightest bit blushing or in love with this woman. This is juvia's true nature, y'all, and he clearly hates it. It's only in her quieter moments that Gray thinks he loves her, but is clearly gaslit and manipulated so much so he assumes her very, very rare serious moments portray her true self no matter what she's doing in 100yq apparently.

I'm sorry, you can't be selfish and manic and obsessive and creepy and gross and rude and self-serving 99% of the time and be forgiven for that elusive 1% when you're not being those things. Not if you're an individual with healthy relationships with women and are able to see the toxicity that juvia perpetuates, which, by the way, Gray is not thanks to his trauma.

I even checked the episode version of 413 Days (oh the things I do for this blog; even just skipping through it is absolute horrific), and it's even worse than the manga version. (People might protest that the anime isn't completely canon, but they cannot tell me every single gr///via stan has only read the manga.)

In the anime, she says the body pillow is "also in commemoration of our 414th day anniversary, so you know, it would be pretty rude not to take it!", showing she's learned nothing, TO WHICH GRAY LEGIT REPLIES "Seriously, that thing is creepy, take it back!!", to which juvia stupidly replies "Then what kind of present do you want me to give you?" while continuing to shove it in his face, as if she can't comprehend that he doesn't want it, and yet her words show otherwise.

Then of course Erza says some stupid-*ss thing like "Never a calm moment, never a dull one either though. Thing's are just the way I like them" as if she can't see Gray being bullied and harassed in front of her face. Eugh, Erza is a disappointment when it comes to gr///via as usual. Then guess what juvia says? "That's right! If you get bored, then you just need to try harder! Hehehe!"

Oh goodness. How are there so many people who find that ok?? That's a "cutesy" way of saying, "Screw consent! Even if i'm just bored and have nothing to do, i'll just amuse myself by harassing someone!" Ew. Just absolutely ew.

Anyway, she's actually guilt-tripping and gaslighting Gray into taking the body pillow despite knowing the difficulties he went through just the day before with him rejecting her gift and all. It was a completely unnecessary and cruel callback to that yesterday, actually. Just shows more of her manipulative side.

B, (yes, there's a B, I took so long y'all might've forgotten there was an A haha), yes, she cried, but she seemed more preoccupied with figuring out how to repair their relationship, how to not lose Gray's nonexistent affection, instead of sympathizing with his grief and feeling for him. "i really... had no idea... what should juvia do?" she's still thinking about herself. Even when Erza says "I don't think Gray was bothered too much by your gesture", and juvia replies "jUVIA IS BOTHERED BY IT! ON SUCH AN IMPORTANT DAY TO GRAY-SAMA, jUVIA.."

Clearly, it's still all about juvia. she's focusing solely on how bad she feels, and she's wallowing in self-pity and self-loathing by denying Erza's part in setting juiva up to bother Gray on that day seen when Erza says "I'm sorry for putting you upt to it", and juvia says "No... this is juvia's fault". That's not being gracious, that's wanting everything to be about herself. At that point, it's straight up denial (which, let's face it, isn't anything new with juvia lockser) to pretend like the red-head didn't tell juvia her plan to spend the day in bliss "wasn't good enough" and was the one who gave her the plan to give Gray a gift in the first place.

You can't tell me this lady doesn't like to focus on herself. This was just one example, and another terrible one was the infamous Silver's-grave-scene where she again disregards Gray's grief by focusing on her own guilt. Seems like it's a recurring theme, now, doesn't it??

Anyway, back to what you said, Anon, the fact that Erza was telling juvia that Gray should basically just suck it up, and that it was his fault for continuing to mourn Ur's death, shown when she says "how important each and every day is... depends on how important you feel it is to you", is just absolutely despicable. I'm tired with Mashima writing Erza this way. I feel like the real one wouldn't defend juvia over Gray, especially when juvia's wholeheartedly in the wrong. Nonetheless, it makes me hate Erza in these moments.

All in all, thank you for your ask and your thought-provoking points! Thank you for waiting for my reply!

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