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jjba-smash-or-pass · 4 months
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I know it's been said before buy I just have to say I know the whole demetri and yasmine plot was just so that all the gay undertones of the rivalry and obsession and tension between Demtri and hawk could be easily overlooked
Lololol Anon you’re not even WRONG
Once they yeeted Moon out of the picture the writers were like “Oh shit, better No Homo it again!!!”
I guess in the writer’s (very feeble) defense, they DID set it up kinda, by having Demetri be like “Wow!!! I’d love to have Yasmine spit in my face!!!” and then very atrociously trying to hit on her at the beach party. But I thought his sorta-crush on her was just supposed to be like...comic relief??? Like “haha look at this nerdy guy being hot for this sexy popular chick he’ll never, ever get, isn’t it good memes???” I mean, him coming on to her at the party and just FAILING at every level was so incredibly funny BECAUSE of how much someone like her was just...never going to go for a dude like that in a million years. Like I thought that was the whole joke??? And Cobra Kai seems a bit more realism-leaning than some teen shows in how the teenagers actually act, so I figured from that angle it was gonna be the trope of “nerdy guy into hot popular bitchy girl” set up...but then, Reality Ensues, and she’s not only not remotely interested, but mildly to moderately disgusted at the idea. And that’s the comedy of it.
So yeah, after Season 1, I thought we were done with that whole arc, and it was literally just like...a joke “love” subplot to balance out the more serious relationship difficulties Miguel was having at the time. But now...Yasmine’s back, I guess??? And she apparently did a full 180 and is sorta nice now and went through a bunch of Character Development offscreen, none of which we got to see? So I GUESS her and Demetri were hinted to eventually become a thing, just like...very, very poorly. And in “hints” I assumed we were in no way meant to take seriously at all.
But yeah, the Yasmine/Demetri thing DOES seem kinda thrown in last-minute, given how finished that arc felt back in s1. And we only ever really get to see Yasmine when she’s interacting with Demetri, so it really feels like she was only brought back to be his love interest, which like...VERY weird flex, Cobra Kai writers, but okay :/
It IS incredibly sus how much time and energy Hawk and Demetri devote to their rivalry in particular, rather than like...idk, moving on with their lives??? Just ignoring each other and doing their own things, now that they are officially no longer bros and are in different friend circles, etc etc? Like they go OUT OF THEIR WAY to fuck with each other when they could just like...chill and move on. Like Demetri, a socially-awkward dude with limited people skills, works up the balls to get onstage and roast Hawk in front of an entire partyful of peers. Hawk SEARCHES THROUGH AN ENTIRE SCHOOL to hunt down Demetri at the school fight. Hawk goes up to Demetri on the first damn day back at school just to GLARE at him ominously (which I also just realized is RIGHT after some freshman girls give Demetri moony looks as they pass--jealous much???) Later on, Hawk coulda ignored Demetri and finished eating lunch with his Cool New Friends, but instead he goes out of his damn way to bust Demetri’s project and then come over and roast him about it. Demetri then eagerly goes over and reciprocates said roasting and spends that entire fucking soccer game tryna screw with Hawk in particular. They fricken almost IMMEDIATELY go for each other in the Golf N Stuff fight, IIRC. Really, they devote more time and energy to each other and their Rivalry™️ than either does to like...any other character? Like are Eli’s thoughts 90% “what’s the next thing I can do to fuck with Demetri?” Are Demetri’s thoughts 90% “what’s the next thing I can do to fuck with Eli?” Because like...I just don’t think obsessing over another man that much, even in a negative context...is very straight XD
There’s also the fact that their arcs are WAY more intertwined with each other’s than ANY girl either of them dates or interacts with. I mean ffs, Moon dumped Hawk BECAUSE of how he treated Demetri--even Hawk’s supposed Straight Romantic Subplot™️ ties directly back into Demetri! And the only reason Demetri joins Miyagi-Do at ALL and doesn’t just like...fade into the background in Season 2 is to show HAWK SPECIFICALLY that he can “fight back.” And later we have DEMETRI being the one to make Hawk realize he’s gone too far with Cobra Kai (i.e. his guilt after breaking Demetri’s arm) and ultimately being the catalyst that makes Hawk SWITCH SIDES! I honestly think every major point of development for both characters directly involves the other in some way--you could even argue Eli initially becomes “Hawk” in part because Demetri quits Cobra Kai, and isn’t around to stick up for him anymore--so he has to find another way to protect himself from bullying. Even their sense of “dojo rivalry” is mostly just about each other--Hawk’s animosity toward Miyagi-Do lowkey seems to stem almost entirely from Demetri in particular joining it and “betraying” him, while Demetri’s animosity toward Cobra Kai basically entirely comes from Cobra Kai taking Eli away from him. I literally like...cannot think of a single thing in either of their developments that doesn’t tie into the other in a major way. 
Like to put it plainly, Moon and Yasmine feel like a single step in each of the boys’ character journeys--a single turning point to spur them in a certain direction. But Demetri and Hawk just...ARE each other’s character journeys. They’re not a step for the other to discover something about themself or get pushed in a certain direction--they just ARE the entire arc for each other, if that makes any sense. Like you could argue BOTH Demetri and Eli/Hawk’s arcs like 90% center on how to navigate their relationship when Eli gains confidence and their interests diverge and they no longer need each other the way they used to. Like??? Name ONE aspect of either of their arcs that doesn’t tie directly into their undying gay love friendship in some way??? It’s INCREDIBLY integral to both their stories and is just...SO much more compelling to watch than either of them making out with hot girls at parties or in the hallway. And them repairing their relationship and/or evolving it as needed, realizing that they love each other too much to let one another go, even if they’re both somewhat different after everything??? And realizing it’s a romantic kinda undying love they’re feeling, because really, what good reason is there for it NOT to be??? We HAVE enough male characters in media already with strictly platonic/brotherly friendships, why not just let two male characters with a compelling story, a strong prior friendship, and REALLY good romantic chemistry just like...be gay??? It feels natural, it’s a good ending to their arc, it feels narratively satisfying in a “Finally having the ‘will they or won’t they’ couple get together” kinda way...why not do it??? It makes ALL the damn sense and would be incredibly thematically interesting and SATISFYING, but y’all writers are COWARDS DAMMIT
Just gonna make that crack ship from Season 1 canon so we can prove that Demetri isn’t gay, no sir??? No Homo my guy??? We can only have one (1) LGBT character per television show, or the “traditional values” viewers will come for us???
Pre Season 3 I honest to god was hoping that part of Demetri’s arc, if he ran into Yasmine again, would be him realizing that he could honestly do better than someone that bitchy and vile, and having enough self-respect to just...lose interest in someone who’s going to push him around, act like he’s beneath her, and talk smack about his friends the second she thinks they’re “lame.” Maybe it isn’t too late though, and we’ll see this in Season 4? Here’s to hoping, because I am going to THROW HANDS if this fricken pairing is ENDGAME endgame. Like...what even do these people have in common, besides getting wedgies??? Do they even have like...any of the same interests??? At all??? How are they going to build a lasting relationship off of...both having gotten a wedgie? And being mean to people sometimes, I guess?
Like, sure. Let them date for a bit--they’re horny teens, they’re prone to jumping into relationships for not exactly the most deep and meaningful reasons. Physical attraction, teenage horniness, and raging hormones are no joke. So sure, I can see them having a fling solely because they both think the other’s hot. But you wanna tell me they’d LAST??? No SIR, I must inform you I Do Not Buy it.
(Tfw you meant to do a short ask making memes about what a crackship Demetri/Yasmine was in Season 1 and you ended up having WAY too much to say about All The Things and now it’s 3 am and you’re typing like a madman. I probably cycled back across the same 5 points like 5 times each because it’s late and I’m not thinking straight, I apologize.)
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lelou-quotes · 3 years
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Why do so many women dislike other women?
I am sure there are times when you don’t happen to like another fellow girl friend of yours for no particular reason. Or as you grow up you realize that friendship with girls might be fun and involve those shopping sprees and parties ,but you often feel judged or at constant battle with each other. Girls make good friends but they have clear cut boundaries and dual dealings. This article is a sane take on the way girls are cut to be the way are, not like the presence of female company around them,
I grew up surrounded by lots of friends but a huge group of them comprised of the guys. Not that I was a tomboy or something, I naturally jelled more with the boy gang. With them around, I never had to bother about my plaits being in place, my frocks neat or mind my playthings. They were easy, not pretentious and not bitchy. As I grew up, I realized things hadn’t changed much. In fact the camaraderie I share with the guys was simple and hassle-free. Sometimes they treat you as one of them, but surprisingly you feel comfortable in your own skin with them around.
Out of the blue, one fine day I suddenly wondered why I hung out more with the guys. Then I got my answer. Except the few close ones, girls didn’t maybe like me that much and the feeling was mutual. Set me thinking to one of life’s most common yet unanswered questions, Why don’t girls don’t get along with the other girls? Of course we have our most of our BFFs as girls only, but like generally in our hearts of hearts we just can’t appreciate another female friendly species?
If bro-mance rules so should sis-mance?
1. They get threatened:
One of the reasons girls don’t adore each other is because they get threatened by each other. One who visits her husband’s boss for dinner sees how well his wife cooks; the other gets threatened by the boyfriend’s best friend whom he spends a lot of time with. Others just get threatened by the way her friend shares a great rapport with her dad and she doesn’t. So she doesn’t like the women that she feels threatened by.
2. They get all green-eyed.
”Jealousy, that dragon which slays love under the pretence of keeping it alive.” Havelock Ellis
Women are those green eyed monsters that are born that way. They can’t help getting all worked up if your house is cleaner than theirs or your waist line smaller than theirs. So simple you got something that makes them think of the J word.
3. They can’t tolerate why all guys like you.
You may be one of the guys. You may be the super-feminine type or may be the head girl. If you are always seen with the guys, they can’t seem to like you. You will be that bitch who always hangs out with the guys in her sweatpants or entice them with your girly woes.
4. They want to be what they can’t be.
You are the cheerleader while they can’t even do a simple leg movement. You excel at debates and they can’t talk to a bunch of people. You fit lovely into that slender black dress while they would never have dreamt of it. Sadly, girls never value what they already have and are too busy trying to be someone else.
5. They love to hate you.
They might not even know you, but if you are new at school, or work, they are absolutely judgmental about anyone that they don’t know especially in a negative sort of way. That’s the thing they love, to hate the other girls that are not one of them.
6. They are used to being the center of attraction.
As women we can’t share our moment of glory. We are used to be the centre stage and once we have somebody stealing the show, we hate them immediately. Might be a beautiful girl has joined the new term, gym or just a stranger walking on the street. If heads turn in that direction, they will surely be hated no matter what.
7. They can’t stand candidness.
There might be someone who may not be sweet-tongued like the way girls usually are. Someone who is too in-the-face for a girl. Girls usually like sugar coating their talk so if you can’t seem do that, chances are there they would not like you.
8. They are always in competitive mode.
From comparing to the prices of the dresses you got last week to who has the redder apples or better curtains in the house, girls are born to compete with each other. Even for trivial things that you are an ounce better, they would not like you.
9. They are always self-conscious.
Women, unlike men, are self-conscious about everything that they have. From the money they are making, to the brands they are wearing, to the way they look while they work out, they are at constant war with their inner self. Some use this to get better each day while others compare this self consciousness with the way how other girls are putting up, only to hate them even more.
10. They are addicted to gossiping.
A new girl at work, a new neighbor, or just a hot girl you saw at the movies with your so-called friend, women and gossip have an everlasting bond. Women love gossiping about other women, about their clothes, makeup, walking style, lame boyfriends, or unnecessary tantrums.
11. They are made to believe all their life, to protect what’s theirs.
The way a woman looks at your man in a party, the way your friends talk about your boyfriend, women know what belongs to them is theirs. Period. Any fear on encroachment by another in her territory would be met with resentment and hatred.
Lastly, women make wonderful lovers, wives, friends, mothers, daughters and companions. But the kind of stuff she has seen while growing up might not have been exactly great. Except her mother most women in her life, her aunts, cousins, sisters, classmates had always been judgmental to the way she talks, dresses or looks. It’s sometimes not the boys but the other women in our lives to an extent are responsible for our conditioning. The rest, they say, is genes; women may like other women but never be too fond of them, they are made that way.
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-so-many-women-dislike-other-women
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