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[Brief] Thoughts on Film Theory's Analysis

I was gonna post this on my priv twt.. but moots convinced me to post it here so here we are.. beware of spoilers, gore, bla bla bla ..

FIRST OFF I'm gonna start by saying, I AM ESL. I may or may not have misinterpreted some of his words, but this is mainly how I thought of his analysis. This is not meant to be ill-guided or rude ! so sorry if it comes off as this way. I will be very repetitive.

Another thing, most if not all of the information matpat gave out i alr discussed with a few mutuals on discord about a few months back so this is not new territory to me 😭😭 I thought most folks would already knew the concept of how the brain deteriorates overtime But honestly, that indisposition shouldn’t even apply to omni man??? matpat tried to compare an immortal Viltrumite's psychology to that of an aging human's, which can be misguided.

Let's start by how he compares Nolan's brain to the average aging human's brain so the audience could understand his psyche more and how empathy declines overtime. First and foremost, Nolan is not a human, second; Nolan wasn't raised with empathy or around an empathetic environment - it was an alien concept to his race. Something frowned upon. He was raised from birth to conquer and destroy without remorse. His brain never developed those neural pathways for empathy in the first place. It's not that they deteriorated over time, they were never even formed.

By the time he came to Earth, all this familial stuff was new to him. Sure, he knew he was gonna outlive them, but He didn't think he'd get attached. HE didn't process that he'd grieve over them when the time came.

Interacting with humanity for the first time ignited unfamiliar emotions in Nolan that he didn’t know how to process.

His time living amongst humans caused conflicting feelings he’d never experienced in his centuries of systematic slaughter. Loving Debbie and Mark went against everything he was taught, but he couldn't help it. For once, the lives he was manipulating to further Viltrum’s goals meant something to him. He developed a [what he presumed, NOT what he felt about them in reality, his love for them is far more profound than he assumed it to be which we later on see in the last ep of s1 and the second season] petty facsimile of love for his ersatz family.

So no, his capacity for empathy didn't decline with age as MatPat claims. His empathy was stunted from the start. An underdeveloped skill, not a deteriorated one. We had characters like Debbie to help him understand those notions, help him grow it. With Mark in the mix? it only amplified that development.

Viltrumites are societally and culturally predisposed to violence and domination. Nolan was never accustomed to forming emotional connections or grieving loss. Those were entirely new experiences for him after arriving on Earth. He was not jaded. he was grown into jamais vu in viltrum.

This is why the whole conflict in s1 happened, he was treading between double lives he wasn't sure of. He was conflicted because his past values were refuting with his new experiences. He found love on Earth, he found himself unable to accept how he'd lose Debbie. Of How jaded Mark might become. Everything he said to Mark till that point was his own self-projections, his own fears, doubts.

While the video did provide some interesting facts about neuroscience and aging, the application of those facts to Nolan's character was inaccurate. IT is educational for those who don't know, but it isn't recent news that the brain begins to deteriorate overtime so this video wasn't that informative which kinda disappointed me. Their analysis lacked alot of information about the Viltrumite race and Nolan's character. Comparing him to humans with normal life experiences just doesn't work. His immortal nature combined with a lack of empathy from birth created a psychology unlike anything seen on Earth.

SORRY FOR RANTING ALOT AND OR IF IT SEEMS LIKE I'M GIVING MATPAT SHIT ... i really liked their analysis on immortal so i'll give them that. Immortal, unlike Nolan, was born human. He has lived among humanity for over 3000 years, inhabiting different identities of public and devoted historians. Because of this, his psyche developed quite differently. Immortal knows how to form connections, experience loss, and adapt to social changes. His perpetual existence didn't harden his heart like Viltrum's brutal culture did to Nolan. Instead, Immortal's immortality allowed his empathy and compassion to blossom.

Humans are social creatures. Our brains have evolved to seek out interpersonal relationships, crave affection, and find meaning in community. For an immortal like Immortal, social interaction is vital to staving off boredom, depression and detachment from humanity.

By inhabiting mortal lives, he stays tethered to the human experience. He continues learning, growing, and developing empathy.

This is why he's devastated when the guardians die.

This is also why he goes fucking mental and tries to kill Omni-man.

If Immortal had lived in isolation all this time, unable to connect with people, his psyche would likely resemble Nolan's more closely. Without social interaction, Immortal's brain would atrophy in ways that preclude complex emotions and moral reasoning. His sense of purpose would fade, achievements would lose meaning, and life itself might feel pointless. By engaging with humanity, Immortal gives his endless existence purpose and direction. He finds value in each temporary life, so loss still impacts him deeply. Socializing keeps his emotions and cognition flexible, which prevents the apathy and hardness of heart seen in Nolan. Nolan never had these opportunities in his early years, this is why it's more difficult for him to stray away from his indoctrination. It's that he's unused to it, underdeveloped.

60 years to Nolan would've been a year and a half, so what's 20 measly years on Earth for him? Yes, he found profound connections in that little speck of time, but Immortal's emotional capacity is far more extensive.

In summary, Comparing Nolan to a human, whether mortal or immortal, is kinda inaccurate. His Viltrumite psyche rules out him from possessing JADED human qualities. You could say he's desensitized to violence sure, but no.. unfortunately.. he does not have [boomer] brain. He has [indoctrinated alien-fascist brain]

Leave your own thoughts down below or through reblogs, I'm really interested on what others may think of this! (URGHHHNN... my hcs r slipping away from my fingers cuz now people r gonna accept what matpat says as truth.. someone gun me down from the hills..)

#ALSO my moots and I had all analyzed this vid and ironically enuff Matpat's analysis makes a hell of a lot more sense when applied to my OC #Aconite !! rather than her father nolan but i will discuss that in a separate post because ykno.. #this may or may not have been the worst take in existence.. i am prepared to be called a dumbass.. (i am not. i am sensitive..) #it is so jover for me.. i will need to change identities.. #invincible #omni man #mark grayson #omni man invincible #milky.txt #milkyrants #milkyrambles #invincible spoilers #nolan grayson #immortal invincible #ur honor omni man is cluster b coded and has ASD.. #IDGAFFFFF !!!!! *i scream aloud in my padded white room rocking back and forth in a straitjacket* #i think alot of people tend to forget nolan is an alien . so let me quickly remind you .! HE IS AN ALIEN.

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You will be receiving a lot of MoonToffee spam, and no, I haven’t gotten that far into the series (will start on season 2 tomorrow). 

BUT THE MOMENT TOFFEE SAID, “You already know. The first spell your mother taught you,” AND I WAS LIKE WHAAAAAAAAAAAAT.

AND I SAW THE CLIP (BLAME YT RECOMMENDATIONS) WHERE MOON BUTTERFLY SHOT OFF TOFFEE’S FINGER AS SHOWN ON THE TAPESTRY, AND SEEING THE UNHOLY FURY IN THE QUEEN’S EYE GOT ME LIKE...

“Yeah, I ship this. I can’t help it.”

ALSO MOON + RIVER= MOON RIVER AS IN THE SONG MADE FAMOUS BY AUDREY HEPBURN IN BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY’S.

Star’s parents are very cute together, and I love them. But I love the possible dynamic between Toffee and Moon.

I AM ALSO VERY AWARE OF THE POSSIBILITY THAT THEY MAY BE RELATED THROUGH ECLIPSA...and her monster lover. I really don’t want him to be like some cursed Mewman. No, he’s a monster through and through.

I LOVE THIS SHOW WHY DID I WAIT SO LONG??? Because I didn’t know the schedule and was too lazy to search it.

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You know, I'm in love with the concept of platonic yandere Cecil having to deal with a hero teenager, whom while being very powerful, is also very prone to accidentally befriending villains because they're just genuinely a sweet person. Dear god imagine Devil's reaction if the villains of the show also became platonic yanderes for this oblivious yet kind person, I wonder how Cecil would react

cw;; unhealthy dynamics ,, isolation,, murder is mentioned,, gaslighting,, toxic shit ,, yandere galore !!!!!

,m sorry .. i just love the thought of a possessive parental-like cecil. hes so mother .. if its not ur thing moots, please skip < 3 i dont write extreme dark content . and i don't plan on ever doing it !!

Awahhfhg,, are they trying to give him a heart attack?? HE would not take it well. He's not willing to accommodate to others—especially villains—trying to embed themselves into Reader's life !!

Reader just had to be too damn sweet n trusting for their own good. The thought of those piss-ants worming their way into Reader's good graces and taking advantage of their kindness made Cecil's blood boil. He'd be monitoring them closely, that's for sure. Let them make one wrong move, give him one reason, and he'd make them regret ever laying eyes on Reader.

But Cecil's first order of business would be giving Reader a stern talking to about proper protocol and personal safety. Honestly, how did they make it this far without someone threatening them into compliance? Not that Cecil would ever actually threaten Reader. He just wanted them to understand the severity of cavorting with criminals. If they refused to see reason, well Cecil would just have to take matters into his own hands. Some "time-off" (aka coerced isolation) for the teen!reader here, a few villains disappearing from the face of the earth there. Whatever it took to keep Reader safe, whether they realized it or not.

Murder was always a last resort. Cecil preferred more subtle methods of control. He'd manipulate events to his favor, arrange "chance" encounters, do a bit of gaslighting if necessary. Anything to keep Reader dependent on him. They were his, after all, and he'd be damned if he let some two-bit villains take what was under his supervision.

So basically, there’s little tolerance for their villain buddies. Nope! he won't share with potential dangers to humanity AND reader;; won't make truces either, not even feigned ones. Reader belonged to Cecil and Cecil alone.

#invincible #invincible season 2 #cecil stedman #yandere invincible #yandere x reader #yandere cecil stedman x reader #invincible spoilers #yandere invincible x reader #platonic yandere #cecil stedman x reader #invincible x reader #milkyrambles #milkyasks #ik i mentioned in an earlier ask that he might not coddle reader but this is a diff scenario which i think he'd be vastly paranoid with #SORRY VILLAIN BUDS .. this man has is stressed enough as it is . #yandere cecil stedman #i personally think a yan cecil wouldnt be too intense . in fact he's pretty mild compared to potential yans like .. FKING nolan for example #hes only really active in reader's life if its something that endangers them such as: #villains or the reader themselves. #other than that . you wouldnt even be able to tell he even cares for reader << this is well intentioned . he cannot risk you getting harmed

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I live for the sheer angsty idea of platonic yandere Cecil with a hero!reader. The angsty part is that while they're an excellent hero and take their work very seriously, they have some serious OCD about making sure EVERYTHING goes right, to the point where they neglect taking care of themselves and stay up all night in case they're needed. I just know my OCD-having self would overthink everything if I were a hero in Invincible. Imagine Cecil realizing his poor kid is NOT okay whatsoever :(

LET ME SLIDE IN RQ !!! in love with this hc btw <3 hope you don't mind me giving my take on it.

cw;; yanderes and all,, unhealthy power dynamics,, ableism and infantilizing maybe (?) ,, confinement

As the Director of the GDA, and with Reader under his care. Cecil would undoubtedly notice their concerning behavior and habits that stem from their severe OCD, even if no one else does. While he presents himself as cold and detached, Cecil cares far more deeply for the reader than he lets on. He sees them as instrumental to the continued safety and security of humanity, but also views them with a certain protectiveness, like a mentor or guardian. Their obsessive drive to 'get everything right' at the cost of their own health and sanity would worry him greatly.

Cecil isn't one to hover or coddle - he gives the reader their space and trusts in their abilities. But he monitors them closely, taking note of the signs of deteriorating mental state and exhaustion. The bags under their eyes, delayed response times, lapses in judgement. He knows the reader pushes themselves too hard in a vain attempt to eliminate any possibility of failure or imperfection. Their desire for control stems from a place of deep insecurity that they aren't good enough, that people will get hurt if they don't give 200% of themselves at all times.

In private, Cecil would confront them about this harmful behavior, hoping to talk some sense into that stubborn head of theirs. He'd express his concern for their wellbeing in his typical abrasive way, not mincing words about the damage they're doing to themselves. But beneath the harsh admonishments, his care and worry for them would be apparent. Cecil wants the reader to thrive, not run themselves into the ground for the sake of being the world's 'perfect' hero. He knows their limits better than they do themselves. If talking doesn't work, Cecil would take matters into his own hands to ensure they get the rest and recovery they so desperately need, even if it means subjecting them to solitary confinement. He's willing to be the control-freak many believe him to be if it means saving them from themselves.

Cecil would make a terrifying yandere,,, almost in his own subtle way. His brand of obsessive 'love' and protectiveness manifests through control, thinking he knows best and will do whatever must be done for the reader's own good - whether they agree or not. You clearly have no capacity for self-control, so he's willing to fill that role of structure in your life, he's the perfect candidate for it after all.

So in conclusion, he'd forsake and disregard OCD!reader's autonomy if he sees them overtaxing themselves. but hey ,, atleast he cares < 3

#invincible #cecil stedman #invincible spoilers #cecil stedman x reader #yandere invincible #platonic yandere #yandere x reader #yandere cecil stedman #yandere cecil stedman x reader #invincible season 2 #invincible x reader #milkyrambles #milkyasks

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I'm so glad to have encountered a fellow Cecil stan. I freaking love coming up with headcanons for Cecil, platonic or romantic, because he's such an interesting character. For real though feel free to dump any Cecil headcanons (platonic or romantic) on me anytime.

AWAAAA!! YES HAII OTHER CECIL AFICIONADO !!! im so glad theres more of us sprouting out here. my wife is so underappreciated, you have no idea how much he means to me. i'd love to req n swap headcanons anytime !! I have so many thoughts on that morally ambiguous gilf.

[messy, disorganized surface level autism rambling ahead. this will be just random scenes and characteristics i like of him]

BUT YES .. cecil's character is just so interesting to analyze. he does unethical, necessary things. But he doesn't subscribe to idealistic notions of "the greater good" or justifying his actions to make himself sleep better at night. He knows the harsh reality that someone has to make the difficult decisions, no matter how unethical. The psychological toll it takes to calculate how many civilian lives can be spared, and how many are inevitably lost in order to achieve the optimal outcome. He doesn't celebrate after victories like the other heroes do. After the dust settles, his mind is already racing - calculating, strategizing how to prevent future catastrophes. How to minimize casualties next time.

his methods are...questionable,, as ive said,, but there's a hint of nobility to it that just makes you respect him, A SHADY GOVERNMENT CHAR that does the dirty work and takes in all the heat for it so no one else has to? SIGN ME TF UP! i love exploring his character and all the little glimpses of humanity we get to see from him,, especially with debbie, SO SOFT FOR HER, there's so much depth there. that old fuck would MOVE mountains for her if he could,, TRUST. EVEN though he doesnt deserve her .. <<

LETS CONTINUE TO CIRCLE BACK TO S1 with his confrontation w Nolan in the desert, the way he entrusted his survival to the skills of his team operating that teleporter watch (I'm aware he can control it himself, I think this was just my interpretation of it since the employees seemed directly involved here). The margin for error was nonexistent. One miscalculation, one millisecond too slow, and Cecil would have been reduced to a red smear across miles of sand. MY WIFE HAS BALLS ON HIM. (also love walton goggins breathy lil giggles here .. hwaghffhh)

All this, All the whilst Nolan could have ended him with a casual backhand, as easily as swatting a fly. And for what? For humanity's (mostly his) right to know the truth. For Debbie's right to understand what she had truly married because Cecil respects her that fucking much for her to have a part in all of this, and what fate may lay in store for her son.

AND what I particularly liked about that scene is that unlike most SHADY GOV CHARS ™.. Cecil isn't afraid to regularly place himself in life-threatening situations, and for that im just.. FKING obsessed. finally. a hyper competent gov char that gets shit done and occasionally by his own hands instead of always puppeteering in the shadows. Love u .. love u honey snooch, please stop putting yourself in danger for your crazy alien side-hoes .

but ahem ... back to s2.. and some flaws of his that i'm not afraid to point out. the way he's been treating mark is killing me. manipulating my son by comparing him to his dad then keeping him on lock by saying he's not like him??? The breadcrumming definitely didn't work out at all, cuz Mark is too damn stubborn to continue to be swindled by fear tactics he does not give a shit for anymore (homegirl DEBBIE taught him better) hes not gonna listen to a cranky skullet-having side bitch of nolans who clearly has been tryna manipulate him since s1. i HATED how he went "ur broke tyrannical bitch father felt the same way" in the last minute when mark tried to leave earth and yet i still lobve ceci cause ough,,.. my bastard wife knew something was probably up.

Him wanting to keep a short leash on MARKY could be summed up after all that has happened in s1. i'm not going to justify his scummy manipulations or paranoia,, especially after all the shit mark has done and endured to prove himself over and over again that he's not like his father BUT its somewhat understandable for cecil 2 be wary if you look from it in his perspective.

moving on from that, lets dive back into ep 2 ..

Debbie was semi-right in her deduction in s2 ep2, that this is what it's really all about for Cecil - being in control. Not of any situation, but of Mark. To ensure history does not repeat itself in the form of Mark becoming another Nolan. imo He likely doesn’t actually view Mark as his father, Not saying the possibility of it being a part of Cecil's subconsciousness is out of the equation but the way I see it? He was just exploiting that one weakness, that one insecurity Mark has - the fear of becoming like Nolan. And it’s a fear Cecil seemed to prey upon to keep Mark under his thumb and in the fucking GAME.

awaaaa :3 !!!! psychologically damaging teens by comparing them to their abhorrently shitty fathers !! FUCK YOJ STEDMAN (love you snookums..)

,,,,I'd also like to think in my warped deluded perception (aka hcs) that he sees Debbie in Mark, so he can't help but care for the kid too. IVE ALWAYS seen a lot of comparisons between Mark and his dad, plus the whole motif of this new season hasn't helped it allay. But Debbie and Mark share so many similar characteristics as well and i wish that was talked a bit more often &lt; 3 (I will go in depth about it at a later post.)

n umm like ...,,, bck to cici in gen. I guess the safety of earth is one of Cecil's redeeming qualities along with his compassion for side characters like Debbie. His pragmatism and utilitarianism define him. He lacks normal morals but has his own code that cultivates to his character. this ramble could not do justice to him ughfglg..,, what a compelling jezebel.. how can u captivate me so !!

My inbox is always open to discuss this multi-faceted rat man. here's to more cecil content in s2..,... hopefully with more of his dynamic with Debbie because I LIVE for that shit. though its unlikely their interactions could range to anything positive now since they may be hinting to cecil becoming an antagonist and/or taking extreme measures w/ mark. soo.. i dont think debbie's scolding was enough for that slut 2 take in ..

in the mean time i'll be catching up on the comics/re-reading them, look up more of his backstory and hopefully create 10 novels worth of google docs of analysis' of his character < 3 cuz .. he means .. that much 2 me.. and i want to prod at every crevice n brain matter he has inside that megamind head of his .

((hwaghhhhhh << hoping that one day the discord moots ive been keeping in my basement and most invincible fans fall victim to cecil stedman propoganda.. no one should be immune to my girlboss and his awful skullet.))

#invincible #invincible season 2 #cecil stedman #omni man #invincible spoilers #debbie grayson #mark grayson #longest paragraph of me saying i want to fuck an old man but rewording it in a semi-melodramatic way .. #SORRY FOR USING THIS AS AN EXCUSE TO RAMBLE !! please go check out superbangelhearts blog; cecil stans . i love their yan headcanons alot . #this was SOOO messy n disorganized #milkyasks #milkyrambles #i think he should be fucked by every adult char in the show #i love him so much .. he has been infesting my fking brain. #I think alot of people confuse his ends justify the means for actual justification n self righteousness . but THERES no indication of that #IN THE SHOW. #hes self aware to a considerable extent over what he does #wrote this at 4am plsss give me a break ... #i would swallow a gallon of acid for him . #so much msgs in my inbox .. i apologize for not being able 2 answer them quickly :( this is still very new 2 me #im like a boomer getting used 2 smartphones... typing w my pinky finger as we speak.. #slobbers n chews on his gnarled knuckles #idkfkk whts WONG W ME ! HELP ! MY PSSYS GONE CRAZYY !!! /ref #this was mainly just pinpointing random parts i liked ab cecil not really an analysis