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when sanzaru said “yes we wanted to make all the ancestors unique” and yet didnt have the balls to make them even slightly different from sly i felt my blood boil so here continues my “thieves in time but better au”
FEATURING:
 sly for height comparison + bc i love him
rioichi soon after getting the thievious raccoonus aka moody ninja kid aka sasuke
tennessee kid aka nothing changed bc hes perfect
henriette because id die before accepting bob’s existence and i love her
galleth but he uh. probably didn’t change much either he’s cute
salim but hes the foxy grandpa we all deserve + his nephew alin. there’s a big plot i promise i’m going to explain about it but im gonna make him sad
slythunkamen because oh my god that cliffhanger. oh my god.
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seirei-bh · 4 years
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Le Paradox’s Blimp + Egypt?
@kingncp Thank you very much for the questions! :D and sorry for the late answer.
Le Paradox’s Blimp: If they were going to introduce a new Cooper ancestor (established character or not), who should it be?
HENRIETTE! I need to see my lesbian pirate heroine in action! /;___;/ She's the only famous female member in the Cooper clan, plus I love pirate's stories, I would love to see Sly and his gang to join to her crew and she becoming from a simple sailor to a badass captain with an own ship :D stealing treassures and fighting with knifes and swords
Egypt: If it was completely up to you, what would the premise of Sly 5 be?
*takes breathe* Okey, this is gonna be a long post:One of the things I liked about Thieves in time was to meet the ancestors, so I'd keep that idea. I think it would be amazing to meet Slythunkamen, his origins and also Clockwerk's origins and why he hates so much the Cooper clan, how all that began~ Also, as I said before, I want to meet Henriette, and others like Otto Van Cooper, Slaigh McCooper, Thadeus and... Sly's father?Well, I'm not sure if I would like to see Sly's father or not. On one hand, yes! Of course! It would be pretty cool to see the adventures of the old Cooper Gang, in the 70s or 80s, and it would be very interesting to see some kind of friendly rivality of thieves between Conner, Jim and M, versus Sly, Murray and Bentley. And also Sly wanting to tell Conner "Hey, I'm your son!" but without couldn't say it, and circling about if he should try to save him from Clockwerk or let him die, because if his parents weren't death Sly wouldn't met Bentley and Murray at the orphanage.
But for the other hand, a part of me prefer to keep all the mystery around Sly's father. I'm too afraid about Sony could mess it up. Sly's father has been so in the shadows all these years that if Sony shows him, he must be totally awesome, but if the expectatives fails... shit.
And of course I want to see Sly and Carmelita talking about their future, apologyzing with each other and I want to see how they solve their relationship. About the epilogue, I've already did a long post about it.
And let's not forget about the theme of the game! One of the things I loved about Sly 3, was its theme: the forgiveness. The first chapter was about Murray trying to forgives himself about what happened to Bentley, all the fourth chapter was about Panda King trying to forgives Sly and Sly's trying to forgives Panda King for the murderes of his parents. And teh final chapter was about Dr M couldn't forgive Sly's father, so he's consumed by his hatred and he died in the end, while Sly left behind his past and focus in his future with Carmelita. I want Sly 5 got a theme so strong like that, but with Slytunkhamen and Clockwerk being the focus of the problem, about the importance of the family, the legacy, the love instead the hate, the importance about the choices and their consecuences... I don't know, something like that, there is so much potencial in those themes! Give me that Sony, please, or Suckerpunch/Sanzaru, whatever.
Oh! And we need a band of good and dark villains, with good back stories, and good final battles. I would die to see a final battle of Sly fighting side by side with his father and/or side with all the ancestors versus Clockwerk and the person who created him or gave him all that technology to modific his body. And it would be even better if that  person or Clockwerk would have kidnapped Slytunkhamen and all the Cooper clan had to rescued him because if Clockwerk kills him, the rest of the Cooper clan will die >:3
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Do you have any sly Cooper headcanons? I’ll apologise in advance if I’ve already asked you this. I have quite a few about Sly’s ancestors. And that Sly himself was fascinated with ballet for some reason.
SLY FASCINATED WITH BALLET
this is. so good i am adopting this headcanon now
and boy if you want headcanons uhhh. yea i have a few :)
sly isnt a full raccoon!! ofc most of his ancestors had raccoon partners (or adopted other raccoons) but conner actually married a cat! i know it's a gameplay thing, but him having cat genes is what makes him particularly silent when he walks... and makes him fall on his feet
penelope and murray are super besties and often watch wrestling matches together
a lot of coopers actually managed to take down clockwerk! i'm not saying the majority of them, but a lot of time they actually managed to destroy him piece by piece. they simply didn't know about the hatechip, so after a few years he regenerated
conner is one of the few who managed to take him down! his battle with him is what made him decide to stop this thief thing and instead focus on his recently pregnant wife because, man. that shit hurt
about conner, he was... a difficult person to deal with. he was similar to sly, but even more extra - and unfortunately, his ego was WAY bigger than his son's
the gang he had with mcsweeny and moreau (aka dr.m) was one he made out of need. he needed a brain and a brawn and found them. they were mostly co-workers at first, and his ego is what really changed the dynamics. m replied to that with frustration, especially since conner had the tendency to do what he wanted without listening to plans, while mcsweeny answered to that with ironic remarks. mcsweeny and conner eventually ended up becoming really good pals - the kind who obviously love eachother but can't stop messing with one another -, while with m, well.
m told clockwerk where conner and rosa (his wife) were hiding and is also the one who told him about sly :)
about that, sly isn't the only cooper clockwerk spared. he's the first one who didn't have the thievious raccoonus with him, thus making clocky's reasoning of "i wanted to show everyone that without ur book ur nothing" actually make sense but. the cooper's biggest weakness is empathy. clockwerk knows the best way to destry a cooper without killing them is taking it on their loved ones and, while not often... sometimes he spared one of them a child, a brother, a wife, a grandfather. leave them to mourn and wish they were the ones who died
aaaand on a better note, about the cooper and the thievious raccoonus! it's not actually written in english!! from slythunkamen, they all used a secret alphabet. it's often updated and a lot of times the meaning of new words is translated here and there, but it's something every cooper learns alongside their first language since they're little. sly would've gotten the book when he was 8 years old because he could read, write and speak fluently that second language
he taught murray and bentley to read it too, and bentley taught penelope after sly 3
back to clockwerk, i follow the hc (that i saw is kinda shared in the fandom?) that for regenerating, sometimes, he just waits for someone to take over him and then slowly takes control of their mind until he "comes back to life" - and i saw somewhere a post in which someone talked about a cooper doing it! actually, again not many... but more than one tried to take over. some of them seeked power, some other thought this could've put an end to this... some did it just for curiosity
otto van cooper became clockwerk out of curiosity and is actually the "incarnation" of clockwerk sly fights at the end of the first game
about people incarnated in clockwerk!!! neyla. i liked the idea of her being a claww gang member's relative, and i dig the idea of her being arpeggio's adoptive daughter :^3c
...about that idk about the english dub, but in italian they dont really mention who's the leader of the claww gang and. we all agree it's arpeggio right?
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