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#sorry but Arya and Dany are the two main female characters they're just going to be more popular 🤷🏾‍♀️
fromtheseventhhell · 1 year
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Mind you the "girl bosses" in question are Dany: who has been sold as a bridal slave at 13, been on the run and feared for her life since she was born, rarely known safety and security, been used as payment by her abusive brother and further abused by the husband she was given too, who has made it a point to protect other women around her from further harm despite having little agency, who faced multiple assassination attempts and the painful loss of her child, vowed to defend others who couldn't defend themselves, has faced constant misogyny on her journey to doing so, has put her own ambitions on hold in order to help others, and is currently the only character enacting wild scale revolution in order to protect a class of people nobody else is fighting for. And Arya: who has been on the run since the end of AGOT starving and scared, has been thrust into a warzone and directly affected by the violent impact, was witness to the horrific torture of the smallfolk by the mountain and his men, was captured and forced into servitude at Harrenhal, was beaten and threatened with sexual violence, who has witnessed countless people she cared about die including her father, mother, and brother, and who still remembers those who lost their lives when nobody else has and done her best to get justice for them.
Yeah, It's soooooo feminist to treat these two female characters like they're lesser because they aren't traditionally feminine. I find it funny how the ones who talk about the importance of valuing "feminine" strengths are the same ones who erase them from Dany and Arya. All of their intelligence, kindness, empathy, etc. get thrown out and their characters are reduced to ones who only know violence. Even the suffering and abuse they've gone through is treated as less impactful and they're given no sympathy. It's an interesting circle of them being misogynistic so that they can justify their misogyny to themselves. It also highlights how little they believe in the things they're saying. Supporting "feminine" characters has just become a convenient way of propping up their favorites; feminism is nothing but a disposable tool. If they actually cared then they wouldn't be rewriting characters to make them seem more "masculine", and in fact wouldn't care about that distinction at all. The female characters have a lot of overlapping experiences afterall.
No one is saying you have to like Arya or Dany, but being misogynistic toward them and trying to disguise it as feminism is disgusting. There's also no way of doing so that won't inevitably reflect poorly on the characters you claim to love. There's nothing productive about making such restrictive boxes for female characters. If you really don't care about them then you don't have to talk about them. It's as simple as that. But if putting them down is the only way you have of propping up your fave, then maybe it's time to find a character that you actually like.
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bensoloshotfirst · 6 years
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That fandom wank post you posted is too much. If Jonerys shippers swallowed what D&D gave them, then what was J@nsa shippers swallowing D&D's S6 that tried to sub Sansa for Arya and the contrived drama of BotB? They're expecting to swallow a lightswitch in S8 where Dany is unmasked as a villain and Jon falls in love with his sister in 6 eps. They WANT to swallow a dynamic so off book where Sansa's Jon's main sib. If they got that in S7, they'd have loved it and called for more. Gimme a break.
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If Jon is gonna fall in love with one of his siblings it’s going to be Arya Stark. I mean, that’s just canon. He loves her and is attracted to women like her. GRRM was even going to put them together in his original outline, like, idk how it can be clearer than that. Sorry, Sansa isn’t Arya have you tried liking a character the way they are? Without stealing other character’s things? Especially other female character’s things? 
They wish Sansa had gotten Daenerys’ storyline in season 7 and it sadly didn’t happen for them and now they’re mad.
I started watching got hella late during season 6 and I shipped jon and sansa. I stopped shipping it in the season finale when she gives littlefinger that Look, because I needed to know what the fuck the drama was between those two and as I watched the show from the beginning I found myself shipping Sansa with the ‘bad’ men in her storyline. Men that jon/sansa fanatics think are too ugly and gross for her. Because, c’mon, her relationships with these men are the most interesting relationships she has. She grows as a character in her dealings with these men.
And it was around this time that I started seeing all this bullshit coming from the jon and sansa fandom. THEY WERE SO ANNOYING to people who ship her with tyrion and sandor and littlefinger. Like, no no no sweatie, Sansa is too good and pure to move past her own superficiality and appreciate someone who isn’t conventionally beautiful. Let’s just say fuck you to her development as a character because I don’t want the pretty character I’m projecting on to be with an ugly guy.
And their theories sound like fox news segments i can’t. (they had one where sansa making a snow ball meant she was gonna marry jon snow I’m not even fucking kidding you).
Then I decided to read the books and it became even more clear to me that jon and sansa are not a thing. They’re a fun crack ship but if you’re out here calling everyone else dumb and blind for not seeing why your ship is going to happen I’m gonna continue laughing at your asses when you show up in my fave tags.
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