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candycanesuckers · 4 years

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I have read through your blog. I have seen your arguments. I have seen your responses.

Your arguments are invalid. Do you seriously believe that you are the only person who watched the show who correctly interpreted the character?

And let's for a second talk about your take that since Kenji wasn't activity commiting terrorism so she had to frame him for her commiting terrorism-- because you can't have it both ways it's either terrorism or it's not. Saying that's that it's terrorism if Kenji did it means that it is terrorism when Stormfront does it. That is not something that a morally gray character would do.And obviously you agree with that considering the fact that you continuously mention that Kenji was a terrorist. Again despite not committing any acts of terrorism... Hmmm. And yet Stormfront did according to you.

Similarly in that same vein: you said that she is able to hold herself back from saying things that are not socially acceptable in her public persona because she has a platform. And you say that her using a slur--because y*llow bastard is a slur-- in private is not as bad as her saying something in public. Slurs shouldn't be part of anyone's vocabulary in public or in private.

And by the way you saying that he's pigmented blows my mind because I do truly believe you don't think it is racist. It is racist. Just because she's not dropping the n-word or the c-word does not mean that she doesn't hold very obvious prejudices! That she has carried out those beliefs by killing people. And I'm not talking about Liberty-- I'm talking about the terrorism that she committed on that apartment building's residents. By the way back to that point for a second-- If Kenji had killed anyone in that apartment building it wouldn't have been terrorism it would have been a killing spree. because it wouldn't have been politically motivated. Stormfront buy your own admission was committing terrorism because it was for political clout.

Also at one point you said Black Noir is point blank a morally bad character: What exactly has he done that Stormfront hasn't? I'm not saying that he's not a morally bad character. I'm saying that your view that Stormfront (a white woman) can be absolved of all of her bad actions while Black noir (a black man) can't is very telling as to your own personal beliefs.

You said in one of your asks that if someone came to you with new arguments and wasn't at all derogatory to you that you would not give straw hat arguments. I would love for you to point out some part of this that is in any way insulting. And is in any way inaccurate. I don't know how many people have watched this show, but you are the only one who seems to want to justify any of Stormfront's actions.

Since you like Stormfront seem to dislike the word Nazi (despite agreeing with a lot of the pillars of fascism) I've presented you with a new word for her: a terrorist.

I could go more in depth on all of your points in your pinned postbut I think we both know that you're not going to change your mind despite being wrong. You're wrong.

You've said that you being gay, the fact that gay people suffered in concentrations camps during the Holocaust, somehow absolves you of openly disrespecting people of color and Jewish people. Again: you don't get to have it both ways. To an Ashkenazi Jew you said that their views were less valid because their family suffered due to generational trauma they were too emotional to comment on Nazism. But then when people say you cannot comment on Nazism you say that your people have suffered due to the Holocaust. This is patently contradictory and a clear attempt to make it seem like your views matter more than anyone else's.

I know you're 14. You're a minor. This is an R rated show that you probably shouldn't be watching. But even so there is no textual support for your arguments. In fact there is quite a bit of textual evidence that directly opposes your views. You shouldn't need any form of analytical experience to interpret the obvious. Many people show runners, producers, the actress, and the majority of the fandom have interpreted this in the same way: Stormfront is a Nazi. There is no instance of the final product not matching the interpretation of the audience; you are not the target audience and even if you were you are in the minority.

I know that if you do respond one of your comments is going to be something along the lines of "oh you care so much you're willing to write an essay about why a 14-year-old is wrong." You're right I do care. I care. The obviously you do too based on what you have said. Saying that someone cares is not a way to discredit them. So come up with something better to say before you hit send.

I sincerely hope you answer this ask and if you don't I will assume you haven't read it and send it again.

The definition of terrorism:

the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

Kenji was not created (and then released to the public) by Vought. He was raised by a separate militant terrorist group overseas, in which he adopted those extremist beliefs. There were no political motivations on Stormfront killing him -- he was a terrorist. If you believe Stormfront to be a terrorist due to her methods, then you must believe every other member of The Seven is a terrorist as well since this would not have happened if not for their aid.

And while slurs are bad (ignoring the fact that “yellow bastard” is not a slur but rather just explicit language), there are different levels of severity and earned consequences on the context of their usage. Someone saying it in private, where it would never become common knowledge and repeated to an impressionable audience, is not the same as someone saying slurs towards an audience that could be impacted by their language.

Black Noir is a plainly morally-black character because he actively aids in terrorism and attacks without motive (the attack in Syria in the season 2 opener, unpromptedly attacking Starlight, and the attack on Butcher. These all had either political motivations or alternatively none).

You said you want me to point out parts of your argument(s) in which you were being rude, but like . . . You’re being polite, so why would I even try? And you’re aware of your attitude too since you indirectly pointed it out. The only thing I could say was wrong was that you called my opinions “invalid” -- there is no such thing as invalid opinions, only opposing.

Then you talk about my sexuality, which is also odd since the whole point you make for that paragraph relies entirely on responses from me that you have mistakenly interpreted (whether purposefully or not). I never said that me being gay “absolves [me] of openly disrespecting people of color and Jewish people.” I never said, and would never say that (nor have I ever been disrespectful). I did say though that my sexuality does mean that my opinion, my voice, does have weight in it since gay people were also systematically oppressed within Nazi Germany. I don’t have any direct ties to people who were oppressed within the Nazi regime though, meaning there is not any generational trauma and my opinion wouldn’t be clouded by blind emotions.

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punkscowardschampions · 5 years

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