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himikou · 3 years
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It’s interesting that Hk chose a women to directly criticize the heroes’ attempts at easing the public.
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Despite having multiple men in the audience, Hk uses a female reporter to question Endeavor’s atonement and integrity. She brings up valid concerns, but she’s portrayed as emotional and almost irrational, which is in contrast not only to the heroes, but also her male colleagues (who are shown behind her, obviously uneasy with her outburst).
Once again, although the men in the story are primarily at fault for the current disaster, Hk created a woman to represent the sector that are working against heroes and their attempt to save society. This wouldn’t be an issue if it was an isolated event, but it’s disappointing considering Horikoshi’s tendency to use women to portray toxic and regressive mindsets while refusing to give his female characters actual development.
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himikou · 3 years
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i constantly wonder how rei is feeling. she spent a decade grieving over a child she could not protect. she had to watch as he spent most of his life suffering, knowing that he embodied the horror of her marriage. how much time did she spend wishing she could have brought him into a family formed from love. how often did she mourn the way he was condemned from birth by both his father’s ambition and her own genetics. when she was told about touya’s death, alone in a hospital, did she cry and scream and beg some god to take her life in exchange for his? the realization that her child would never know happiness must have consumed her.
and then, one day, she turned on her television and saw that child alive. did she force herself to not get her hopes up, unable to cope with the sorrow that disappointment would bring? the grief must have returned a hundred fold when she saw his scars. and then, the relief that must have washed over her when she accepted what she knew from the first second: that was her child. he was still suffering and so alone, but he was finally reachable. imagine how it must have felt for rei to know that she could love her child again? realizing that after ten years of longing to give touya just one more i love you, she could actually make it a reality.
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himikou · 3 years
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lady nagant experiencing the horrors of the hero system, and then upholding them as a pillar of said system until she finally rejected it by executing the hpsc president. something something about how that moment should have also killed her identity as a hero, but instead it immortalized her as the ex-hero lady nagant, to the point that no one in canon has ever referred to her by her actual name
she’s introduced to us as prisoner 656698 and then throughout the story exclusively referred to as lady nagant. even the destruction of her hero persona did nothing to actually free her from the system or allow her to return to being kaina tsutsumi. instead, it guaranteed that she would now exclusively be defined by it, showing that once you’re caught up in the hero system, even if you’re too young to comprehend what it truly entails, you permanently sacrifice your humanity. names are an important indicator of where people fit into society and having the authority to strip someone of theirs and rebrand them like a product shows another way that this system dehumanizes both heroes and villains and so on
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himikou · 3 years
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i wonder if, after his death, shouto felt guilty for the way touya was treated. i wonder how much he saw and knew about touya’s deterioration and desperation for their father’s love and attention. did he blame that suffering on his birth?
how much did he know about touya? was everything he knew about him just memories shared by fuyumi? did he dream at night about the brother who was so much like him, that his father kept him from ever knowing?
there’s so much guilt that shouto probably suffered from as a child, unable to comprehend that he was never at fault in any of this. he deserved to have a relationship with older brothers. it’s so terrifying being trapped in an abusive family, and my heart aches thinking about how lonely he was, being isolated from his siblings
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himikou · 3 years
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Hey! I just stumbled onto your blog and I really love your content, especially your love on Toga! I had just wondered, what do you make of her backstory? I found it really interesting how it was approached, and how it really shows a fatal flaw in Quirk society to a point.
Hi! Thank you so much! ^^ I’m sorry this took a few days to respond to. I kind of fell down the rabbit hole rereading Toga’s backstory. Thank you so much for your ask, though! It’s made me actually flesh out some of my thoughts on her character and the way BNHA society views quirks in general.
Personally, I love that Horikoshi chose an interview / battle sequence to reveal Toga’s back story. Because of her past, it’s important that we know what the public reaction was. It also gives a great opportunity to segue into the MLA’s critiques of quirk society, and the ways they want to change it. (I also just love Curious and am still ticked that HK killed her.)
As for her actual backstory, it’s incredibly tragic. It’s a clear indicator that the current system is unsustainable. Its only solution for managing quirks that are deemed unacceptable by society is suppression or imprisonment, and biological urges can only be suppressed for so long before the individual acts on them. As you mentioned, Toga’s backstory really brings this to light.
TLDR: Numerous groups and individuals warned that the rules of society needed to be readjusted to accommodate for the wide variety of quirks that would eventually appear. Instead, people chose to do what was easiest and simply reestablished pre-quirk society, adding in strict regulations for quirk usage. This required citizens to either force themselves into the acceptable mold or be permanently outcast from society. Toga Himiko is a prime example of someone who has suffered extensively due to this system, and the system in place is somewhat culpable for the crimes that she’s committed.
In 270, Dr. Ujiko tells Present Mic that his Quirk Singularity Theory was dismissed due to weak evidence and people’s desire to focus on peace in the present. Instead of planning for the next crisis, they chose to build the foundation of this new society on rules that had been made for quirkless human beings. This indicates that the current society has always been on the brink of disaster due to its inability to accommodate a variety of quirks.
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In 228, Redestro notes that, despite the excessive changes that have taken place since quirks first appeared, society insists on following the same ways of living as before. He argues that humans as a species have moved beyond a capacity for normality; it follows, then, that the way humans coexist should also undergo radical evolution.
An omake at the end of 77, explains that, because quirks are too varied to regulate on an individual basis, the authorities chose instead to simply outlaw all quirk usage that could harm another person. However, the article goes on to explain that citizens themselves still differentiate between quirks that can and cannot cause harm to others. Although the official legislature for Japan implies that all quirk usage is equal, people still recognize that some people are inherently more dangerous due to the quirk that they possess.
This desire to maintain the balance of pre-quirk society has resulted in the practice of Quirk Counseling. Curious states the goal of Quirk Counseling is to make people fit neatly into society. It aims to smooth out any different perceptions of the world that the person might have due to the nature of their quirk; when this is accomplished, it creates one harmonious view of how society should exist. However, she states that this is not a perfected process, and, often, it instead ends up emphasizing people’s differences instead of their commonalities. This, she claims, is the root of Toga’s suffering. Because she cannot adapt her quirk in a way that would fit into society, Toga can only exist as an outlier. 226
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From the moment her quirk manifested, Toga’s parents condemned her as a deviant: someone who would never be able to exist within normal society. This forced her to adopt a false persona with every person that she interacted with for approximately a decade. Eventually, though, she succumbed to that hunger that her quirk had created, and she attacked a classmate. Once she crossed this line, there was no hope for her to return to a normal life.
(And to be clear, it seems like it was always a matter of when, not if, she would give in. I think of it like my experience with eating disorders: no matter how good you are at fasting and restricting, you will eventually eat. Most likely, you’re going to binge. This hunger will have consumed you until it is the only thing you can think about, and when you finally eat, it will be an uncontrolled frenzy. This is similar to how Toga is described when drinking Saito’s blood: “it was like she was in a trance.”)
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After the attack, Toga immediately runs away. The next panel we see is her parents condemning her. They state that their only wish is that they could somehow make up for their daughter’s existence. They believe she is inherently evil, and that nothing they could have done would have prevented this outcome. They don’t express any wishes that things had turned out differently, for her to come home, or for her to be okay. Toga’s parents directly reflect society in the way that they devalued her the moment she showed signs that she could not fit into the acceptable mold.
We don’t know exactly how Toga survived for the next two years, but during this time, she managed to master both close combat and stealth attacks. Curious also notes that she is able to commit murder with absolutely no hesitation. Toga herself later mentions that she was continuously chased by both the police and heroes, so in order to survive, her mantra became “don’t get caught.”
(It’s also interesting to note that there are three separate occasions where she immediately assumes someone is going to kill her: when she first meets Shigaraki [68], during the Forest Training Arc [80], and after the heroes kill Twice [287]. This could be a direct result of her years spent alone.)
I’m really interested in hearing about Toga’s past in her own words. I do think we’ll eventually get this, as she should have another encounter with Uraraka and / or Midoriya. It’ll be interesting to know how she felt about her quirk when it first manifested, as well as more details about her childhood!
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himikou · 3 years
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It’s frustrating to see Hawks implied to be weak or cowardly because he hasn’t dealt with his trauma and rebuilt his relationship with his parents. I understand why he would carry this guilt, but I really hope that no one validates these feelings. His family situation is so different from the Todorokis’, too, that it’s strange to compare them. He was removed from his (abusive) parents as a young child and groomed into a tool for the HPSC to use. Hawks has never had any true control. He’s a twenty-three year old who, for the first time in his life, has the freedom to make his own choices.
It’s not like he even had the opportunity to confront his family’s issues before this. One, he was forced to cut ties with his father, so he doesn’t even have access to him. Second, he sought out his mother as soon as he was released from the hospital, but she had already chosen to abandon him (again). Third, there’s nothing wrong with wanting to get away from your abusers. Children are not obligated to try to save their families.
How someone chooses to navigate their relationship with their abusive parents is not a reflection of their strength or character. There isn’t a right or wrong response; they just have to choose what’s best for them personally. If they decide that cutting contact is what’s best for them, then that is the best option for them.
Additionally, these are fictional characters. They don’t have any agency; they can’t make their own choices. Horikoshi has made the choice to take every character who has previously hated or distanced themself from their parents and push them toward a kind of redemption or reconciliation arc. This sends the message to his audience (which is mostly kids) that the right way to confront your abuser is to go to them and rebuild that relationship. I really hope that this isn’t the path he commits to for Hawks. Either way, how he handles this will be really telling about his views.
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himikou · 3 years
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I actually did love Midoriya. He had so much potential as a character. There are so many interesting things HK could have done with him, especially if he’d stayed true to him having a vastly different worldview from his peers due to being quirkless. He’s intimately acquainted with the flaws in society, and we’re told that he has a strong sense of justice, so why doesn’t he want to change anything?
Imagine how hard “people are not born equal” would have hit if he had recalled it upon meeting Natsuo or during the Touya reveal? Imagine him drawing connections between Shinsou and Toga and the roles that society pushed them into solely because of their quirks? What if he actually drew attention to how shitty and harmful every hero’s attitude is toward Bakugou?
Midoriya, without an unshakable faith in heroes, who questions why a sixteen-year-old was able to track down a villain that had been evading heroes for months. Who sees the trauma Shouto carries and questions a system that allowed Endeavor to masquerade as a hero while tormenting his own family. Who questions why the most prestigious school in the country can afford one-time-use robots and elaborate training facilities but has a student who’s starving herself to make ends meet.
The first step to solving a problem is acknowledging it exists, and Midoriya has yet to do that. Instead of character development, he just gets new quirks. At this point, he doesn’t have a role outside of possessing OFA. He had a unique position to call attention to the problems in a system that was flawed from its inception. He could be an incredible character, but instead, he’s just an overpowered kid committed to maintaining the system that’s caused himself and his friends so much harm.
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himikou · 3 years
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Thinking about Touya being a mirror image of Rei. After his death, part of her healing must have been making peace with her own reflection—relearning how to look into a mirror and just see herself. But even as she healed, that reminder was always there. She could never forgot her child’s face because it was something they would always share, and eventually, that turned into source of comfort. No matter what would happen, she could always carry that piece of him within her.
She spent a decade looking at that tv in her room and seeing Touya each time the screen went dark. So of course she recognized her son the moment the screen lit up and he stared straight at her. The scars were unexpected, but the eyes were the same as always: down-turned, sad, and finally blue.
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himikou · 3 years
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I wonder how difficult it was for Uraraka’s parents to keep her safe when she was little? These panels from Vigilantes shows the protagonist, whose quirk is much weaker than Ochako’s, constantly floating away as a baby.
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So I can’t imagine the precautions her parents had to take to keep her from injuring herself or getting lost. They probably had to keep her on a leash like a little balloon, just to anchor her to the ground. Also, it’s possible that she would have had to wear gloves all the time, until she got into the habit of keeping her pinkies lifted?
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himikou · 3 years
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“The adults in bnha treat the kids like kids and try to protect them” is an interesting take. I do agree that in relation to other series the students hold a lot less responsibility than their counterparts do. But I don’t think the adults do much to actually protect them, considering they placed sixteen-year-olds on the front lines of a battle. Also just the way that they treat them at UA and allow so many issues to continue on unaddressed
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himikou · 3 years
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hiii this is so sudden n unprompted but i'm writing a fic where shinsou is involved and that's one character it's been so long since i wrote 2 the point where i feel i lack the necessary familiarity to do it, but ik he's one of ur faves and i wanted to ask what your thoughts on him are and/or your thoughts on the discrepancy between canon n fanon shinsou!!
Hi!! I love that you thought of me in connection with Shinsou tysm ✨ First, good luck with your writing! I know it’s not Shinsou-centric, but if you want to, please feel free to send me your fic when it’s finished. Whatever it’s about, I would love to read it. 
I’ve actually done a lot of research into Shinsou’s character in the past, so I have a lot of thoughts on him. I’ve cut a lot of things to make this easier to read, but it is still kind of long. Everything is organized into points, though, and key ideas are bolded, so please only read what you’re interested in. I hope that some of this is helpful!
Resources 
These are the key sources that I’ve used when writing Shinsou.
Manga chapters he’s prominently featured in: 23 (p 9-10), 32-34, 195-198, 209-216 
The light novel: this chapter is mostly from Shinsou’s perspective, and it gives some really great insight into how he views both himself and the world.  
This post by @/deafmic summarizes the key points of the light novel chapter 
This quirk meta: mostly theorizing, but it is based on canon material. It’s really interesting, and I’ve found it useful in forming my own theories on how Shinsou’s quirk operates.
Characterization 
Here are some key character traits that stand out to me. I’m not going to expound on them because I don’t want to makes this response any longer, but totally feel free to ask me about any of them! I can also provide specific sources from canon to back up each of them. ^^ 
Positive 
Curious 
Intelligent 
Observant 
Perceptive   
Determined 
Hard-working 
Can react quickly 
Studious and dedicated 
Not afraid to share his opinion 
Neutral
Self-aware 
Provocative (to make people talk)
Mature (noted by someone but I can’t tell who’s speaking :/) 
Masks his feelings - maintains a poker face to hide how emotional he actually is  
Negative 
Anxious 
Insecure 
Self-critical 
Self-isolates / lonely  
Carries a lot of misplaced guilt
Unbalanced (focuses too much on training/studies to the neglect of his social life)
Miscellaneous Notes 
He views his quirk positively. While he understands why people judge it so harshly, he himself sees it as a good thing that has the potential to help a lot of people. It also makes him ecstatic to hear someone acknowledge this fact. 
A central theme of his character is how the public views quirks. This is similar to the impact of Midoriya being quirkless and the biological affects of Toga’s quirk. People assume that Shinsou will become a villain solely because of his quirk. He wants to be a hero because it’s his personal dream. It should be acknowledged, though, that the way others view his quirk has had a significant impact on him. Because of how society condemns some quirks and celebrates others, Shinsou becoming a hero will send a message to society about the stereotyping of people based solely on their quirks.
He’s very future-oriented. He manages a lot of his fears by forcing himself to instead focus on the work he needs to do to secure his future. From his perspective: “Feeling dark thoughts encroaching again, he put on his best poker face and tried to focus on the simple act of walking. Rather than embrace the angst, why not concentrate on what he could and should do.” 
He has a nervous habit of rubbing the back of his neck.
He believes Mineta should be kicked out for sexual harassment. He’s clearly a champion of women’s rights. 
Canon vs Fanon 
His Background 
The only information we have about his background is that most people assume he’d selfishly use his quirk to become a villain. Because of this, a lot of people write him as having a really difficult family situation (generally abusive parents or being abandoned and growing up in foster care). There isn’t anything inherently wrong with this. Since we don’t have canon information, people are obviously free to headcanon whatever they like. (Personally, I like to think that he comes from at least a somewhat supportive background, because I like portrayals of loving parents.) 
My issue with this starts with people just adding it in for some drama. A lot of people heap massive amounts of trauma onto Shinsou, then leave it completely unresolved. There’s no narrative purpose for it other than the entertainment that people find in angst or the “beauty” people see in “broken” characters. I’m not against the portrayal of traumatized characters; it’s actually great for these issues to be addressed in fiction. But as someone who has dealt with some of these issues, it can be really uncomfortable to see it romanticized like this. If you want to incorporate additional trauma into his backstory, I would just recommend having a purpose for it. This post by @/todorokifuyumi goes further into talking about this issue, and is a really great resource wrt writing trauma in general. (tw for mentions of sexual assault)
Hero Work 
My biggest disagreement with fanon Shinsou is that he’s almost always portrayed as an underground hero. It isn’t exactly wrong, and I understand why people write him this way. With his quirk and Eraserhead being his mentor, it makes a lot of sense for him to become an underground hero. Logically, it’s the best way for him to utilize his quirk. 
However, when we look at Shinsou’s stated goals, he says the following: 
34: “...I’ll become a greater hero than all of you.” 
195: “I’ll be a great hero someday and strive to use my quirk to help people.” 
He wants to become a greater hero than all of the students currently in the hero course, and we know that several of them are aiming to become the number one hero. He also desires to use his quirk to help people, partially to counter the negative stereotypes that people always project onto him. These aren’t exactly things he can accomplish by being a hero that almost no one knows exists. In order to fulfill his dream, Shinsou must become a public hero. (Idk if that’s the right term, but basically, just not underground.) So it’s not exactly incorrect to portray Shinsou as an underground hero, but I don’t believe it aligns with his canon characterization.
This is expounded on a little more here by @/prince-liest (I’m the anon :/) 
Moody and Unapproachabe 
My final disagreement is that he’s often written as moody and unapproachable, or even outright hostile, toward his classmates. He’s extremely reserved and intentionally builds walls to keep people away, but he doesn’t actually hates people. In the light novel, he gets along well with the other students in 1-C. In the Joint Training Arc, we see him work well with people that he’s essentially just met. While he’s definitely not friendly, he doesn’t seem to genuinely dislike anyone. 
He’s willing to listen to the people around him, and in canon he interacts positively with Midoriya and Aizawa. He’s a kid who has a lot of insecurities and doesn’t really know how to navigate friendships, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a desire for them. He wants to become a hero and be seen as someone who helps people. He has a desire to be viewed positively; he doesn’t help things by being so stand-offish, but he’s not cruel or even a jerk (outside of provoking people in battles). 
End Notes
Disclaimer that I don’t follow the users referenced here; I’m not endorsing their blogs because I don’t know them. They’ve written really helpful posts, though, and I’m extremely grateful to them for that. Additionally, @/prince-liest has written some of my favorite Shinsou fics; I strongly recommend them if anyone is looking for some fics to read.
Thank you so much for the opportunity to talk about Shinsou! I really enjoyed sharing all of this. If there’s anything more specific that you’re interested in, please feel free to ask about it. Like I mentioned, I have canon material to support all of this, so I’d love to expound on any of it.
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himikou · 3 years
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im pressed af abt it bc even DEKU WAS REWRITTEN INTO 'PROJECTING' WHEN IT COMES TO SHOUTO FORGIVING E-SLUR also he literally told him to fuck off and then does a u-turn and works for e-slur and calls that mf a goddamn mentor? i hate hk so much for this. there ain't no fuckin' way the empathetic green boi would do this.
also i'm just really tired of everyone every-single-person being sympathetic to e-slur atm in their own way and paving his red!arc. so don't bring this all on izuku dude, come on.
uh....i apologise if that came off too confrontational over a damn fictional character.
Don’t worry about it, you’re good ^^
Honestly, as frustrating as it is watching Midoriya, I don’t really blame him. He should do better. He should think before making these statements because they do hurt people, but at the same time, I get it. Everyone shows compassion, but some people are naturally strongly inclined to it. Midoriya is one of those people, and honestly, same.
I’ve constantly been told that being highly compassionate means it’s easy for you to not hold people accountable, and I think that’s what’s happening with him. It’s so easy to see the slightest hint of something positive and just fully embrace it. You want to believe that people are good so badly that you’re willing to immediately forgive their mistakes, even when that isn’t your place. Midoriya keeps seeing potential and misinterpreting it as reality. It’s a flaw that needs to be addressed, but it’s not like he’s done anything unforgivable.
Also, YES. HK keeps retconning and rewriting his characters to be more sympathetic to E-slur, even when it undermines their previous characterization, and it’s infuriating. It especially bothers me with Izuku because he’s heard firsthand from all the Todokids about what E-slur did to them, plus he was treated like trash throughout the whole internship. It doesn’t make sense.
The fact that it’s been 15 chapters since the Touya reveal and we still haven’t seen someone directly and completely condemn Endeavor’s behavior is ridiculous. The closest we got was “other people are suffering more” and “you messed up but ultimately we’re all responsible.” I don’t understand how E-slur is supposed to have a redemption arc when he can’t even take the first step of admitting, without reservations, how deeply he messed up. The writing is such a mess rn, and I’m so tired of it.
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himikou · 3 years
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i wonder how well hawks remembers his life pre-hpsc
he’s so focused on the future, and i think we’ve seen that he’s not the type to dwell on the past. he also chose(?) to completely abandon his previous identity, which removed any need to think about it. when you go so long intentionally blocking out a traumatic past, it can become almost inaccessible. so beyond the few flashbacks we’ve seen, i wonder if he really has anything else to hold onto
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himikou · 3 years
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please i love their sibling relationship so much ;-;;; i wanna see how touya and natsuo got close, how they comforted each other how they talked to each other. the usually loud touya was he gentle with natsu :( did they laugh tght :( was touya actually happy around natsu, fuyumi and rei :(
knowing what they were like growing up will add so much more depth to all of them 🥺 thinking abt his siblings being his one comfort in life makes me so sad but that’s also so soft ;;u_u;; i wanna know how natsuo comforted him when he cried. did he hold him or try to make him laugh or rant about their father with him? and touya willingly dropping his bold and intense persona to be that vulnerable around his little brother 😭
i would love it if we get some happy flashbacks, maybe from rei’s perspective. i know their childhood was awful, but there had to have been some happy moments between the kids. we know rei loves touya, so it would make sense for us to see her good memories of him.
thinking about all of this reminds me of this comic by guardianspirits13. i’m really holding out for hk to give us content with a similar vibe 🙏🏻
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