#when you factor in shit like the fan perception of the used the canyon....

[sendmyresignation]

one of the things about where are your boys tonight i really appreciated and, to me, seemed like the most significant thrust of the book (but never garnered much attention, imo), was the focus on the business side of things and particularly the way the many bands never saw long term success or stability or the way a lot of very young people were taken advantage of even after making their labels and handlers metric butt-tones of money and this really culminated with the discussion about paramores record deal and the inherently coercive nature of making a 14 year old sign a record deal (not even really mentioning that record deal was 20 fucking years lmao) and yet i still see people argue she was an industry plant or whatever. sorry ig one of my fatal flaws is i give child stars the benefit of the doubt considering the fundamental exploitation necessary for that position to exist or whatever

#sorry was thinking about this bc I saw some truly horrible and dismissive posts on twitter about hayleys contract #but i also think it dovetails into the general malaise that existed in the third wave that a lot of places are quick to dismiss #idk. i keep thinking about how so many ppl were taken advantage of (in the sense of predatory contracts or not getting paid victory style) #and how many are stuck in an endless loop of diminishing returns in order to be career musicians who can actually support themselves #and fundamentally this is the key linchpin in the emo nostalgia- some of the btier andlower bands Need stuff like #emo nites or wwwy to actually make a living (no matter how much you make up front a altrock hit single cannot sustain someone as livelihood) #and since touring is the only reliable way to make money. well why put significant expenses into ur new album #none of your fans care about anyway? its a pre-existing cycle. very thrash metal. but its almost worse #when you factor in shit like the fan perception of the used the canyon.... #idk ive been thinking about it a lot and i dont find nostalgia circuits reprehensible bc of the fundamental indignities #of the recording industry and all its issues #but its hard to see people shit talk the third wave for being full of impressionable kids hoping to survive of their passion #like you do realize they dont sound like assholes in that circumstance for crashing and burning? right? #(esp when you add mental health and addiction into the mix- these bands were full of sick people being denied care bc it would interfere w/ #the 'rawness' or authenticity or whatever the fuck. these bands were having their sadness wrung out of them for money) #anyway i think hayley williams should be allowed to hunt any and all current or former atlantic higherups for sport #my posts