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thegarbagecollector · 48 minutes

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she's here-!

#THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I PICTURE FEMME DENNIS/VICTORIA #LIKE SHE WOULD BE A BUSTY BOMSHELL BOTTLE BLONDE #macdennis #sunny brainrot

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thegarbagecollector · 16 hours

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I COMMISSIONED @tokimekiwaku TO DRAW ME DEETRESS AND I'M SOOOOOOOO IN LOVE OH MY GODDDD THEYRE THE BEST!!!! 🥹😭😍😫

#deetress #sweet dee #the waitress #it's always sunny in philadelphia #iasap #sunny brainrot #LOOK THEYRE A CAT AND A DOG BECAUSE I SAID SO NOBODY LOOK AT ME

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thegarbagecollector · 1 day

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This guy doesn’t know me. // Dude, what’s all that stuff you’re grabbing? ↳ The ANTI-Social Network (7x08) - The High School Reunion Part 2 (7x13)

#THE BEST INTEREPISODE PAYOFF EVER #sunny brainrot

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thegarbagecollector · 2 days

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obsessed with how the very first episode after Mac officially comes out he has a dream about kissing Dennis. RCG was like yeah he's gay now and you need to know he's gay for Dennis specifically. it's an essential part of his sexuality

#so important to me that mac coming out changed the kinda gay dude friends joke into “he is deeply sexually/romantically in love with dennis”#and the joke is now how totally overwhelming his obsession with dennis is LMFAO #sunny brainrot

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thegarbagecollector · 5 days

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that magnet vocaloid thing but it's macdennis

they're ruining my life

#I WAS HOPING SOMEONE OUT THERE DREW MACDEN AS MAGNET GOD BLESS #macden #sunny brainrot

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thegarbagecollector · 5 days

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macden moodboard

#i'm going to pass away from the sheer longing concentrated in this post #macden #sunny brainrot

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thegarbagecollector · 5 days

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working on a short macden comic and it's taking me foreverrrrrrrrr idk how people do this for a living 😩😩😩

#hesitant to tag this as anything bc its just a wip :/#but i havent been drawing anything else and i wanna post something lol #sunny brainrot

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thegarbagecollector · 8 days

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a collection of macs dumb expressions in the early seasons <3

#i want to throw him on the ground and step on his face #sunny brainrot

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thegarbagecollector · 8 days

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Mac and Dennis looking at each other Like That in S1E01 // S16E04 ↳ for @divorce-enjoyer

#me: burning alive #macden #sunny brainrot

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thegarbagecollector · 8 days

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Heyo! I'd be interested to hear your theories on the macdennis writer's room situation!

IMO it's not as simple as 'Rob is pro and Glenn is anti' (and we always ignore Charlie in these conversations even though he's quite into it in the dvd commentary and pod), so your suggestion that the subtlety (lol it's really not subtle, but yeah r/iasip ig) in the writing of their relationship might be glenn's idea is quite intriguing to me, and I wonder how this all relates to the opposing views on whether Dennis is a serial killer amongst rcg. So much of the writing of Dennis comes from Charlie and also Rob, but it's definitely influenced by them observing Glenn (like the cereal story) and by Glenn's performance. And ofc we know Glenn pushes back if Dennis is written as too heartless because he maintains that he does have feelings and is quite sensitive in a way. Not sure where I'm going with this... I don't have a full theory fleshed out in my head yet, so I'd really like to hear your thoughts!

(not trying to stir anything with this ask btw: in fact, iirc there were some posts about this subject a few months ago and I didn't engage then because it pissed me off when the conversation turned into a "who supports the quuer fans more" kind of competition, as if macden is something so basic between rob and glenn, when we really have no evidence about what happens fr bts, beyond some fun speculation. just enjoy theorizing in drought times.)

Hey, thanks for the ask! To address your final point first, I don't want to talk publicly about what may or may not be the motivations of Glenn and Rob as "queer allies" or how they think this may affect their careers or whatnot. These kinds of discussions I don't believe are ever effective publicly when you don't know the truth. I'm not speculating on their motivations as people but as writers who care about the story they're telling and, more importantly, their characters.

When my message was "anti" and "pro" it was really just from the discussion that someone had to be pushing back against what I believe is Rob pushing forward (This was a black and white, who wants Macden now and who is saying no, wait. I truly do and always have believed Macden will happen. The nuanced discussion came after, in messages I'd rather not share since they are not just my personal thoughts but a conversation with another user.) I

t's not necessarily that Glenn is anti-Macdennis (and I think you understand that) and I want to clarify first off that I definitely don't think it's as simple as that, so here we go:

For Glenn pushing the subtlety, I think we agree completely that it likely links to how Glenn wants the audience to perceive his character (and how I love perceiving him): Dennis talks a big game that to the untrained eye makes him seem like this cold-blooded psychopath, but it's all a complete front you can easily see through. He gets a thrill out of these terrible things but would never act on them. It's interesting to hear of the live show "Dennis is a serial killer" talk brought up right along side all of this, because it's a perfect example of how Rob and Glenn clearly have opposing views on Dennis' character, and how that definitely plays into why they don't agree on canonising Macdennis. (As I understand, Dennis gets a thrill out of the idea of murder or harming people, but he could never act on it. Reddit (and to some lesser degree, Rob), don't get this, and think he probably does act on it and it's just not shown in canon (despite the mountains of evidence that Dennis is much too weak and feeble to ever do anything).

If you think about their current dynamic (actually, ignore 15, we'll get there), they've completely flipped from early seasons, and I don't think that's accidental or a fault of bad writing, I think it 1. is a result of Mac labelling himself as gay, finally, in S12 and 2. is a result of Glenn continuing to fight for Dennis' character staying consistent.

From point 1: Dennis was always the more effeminate, more coded to like men one, more touchy with Mac, a little obviously in love with him, until Mac outwardly expressed those feelings back. As early as M&DBU you can see how terrified Dennis is of being seen as gay, and in a relationship with Mac. For Dennis, as gay as it got, it was okay until it was labelled. Now that Mac is labelling himself as gay, now there's a hard stop for Dennis. Being with Mac is something Dennis could act on, and then be labelled as. (gay, bi, likes men, fucking Mac, boyfriend *shutters*) This is something that would happen if he didn't keep full, hard control against it.

To point 2: I think this was a bit of a divide in the writers room that Glenn couldn't control. S12 he bowed out, clearly he was feeling lost in Dennis and the writers room. When he left for S13 and 14, and you can see how Rob's want for Mac to be out, canon, very gay, in love with Dennis, comes through full-speed in these seasons, because Glenn wasn't writing (mostly). Rob wanting this directly conflicts with Glenn's writing for Dennis. Dennis is opposing Mac in every way, he has this exterior he has to put on, anti-Mac, anti-whatever they were, he's completely thrown off by Mac, hates their old dynamic.

Rob wants canon Macden, but he perceives Dennis differently than Glenn does, and likes this opposing path of the two of them, and that's obviously creating an issue. Clearly I don't know Rob's intentions, and maybe I'm talking out of my ass, but I don't think I'd be far off to say that he'd enjoy putting Macdennis through some desperation-hell (ala, Dennis gives in and gets with Mac because he's horny, uses him, DENNIS systems him, the result is Mac has always been the long-con for Dennis, which I admit, I wouldn't hate hate).

I think Glenn is against it, because there's always been something there for Dennis and there's a reason he came back, there's a reason he's always stayed around, always supported Mac. He is in love with Mac. It's not a system or a game, but a fucking fight for his life to oppose his true feelings and hide his identity, not be labelled. Dennis is stuck, and there's nothing pushing him to do anything about it. He'll get off with his systems and his kinks and he's okay.

Now we move to S15 and look, they aren't...all that opposing...during Lockdown, they...got along. And then, here goes Dennis, yelling and screaming about Mac obsessing over his own labels and identity so he can ignore his internal struggle. It's clear, he needs something to push him.

How do they go about it? Dennis jealousy arc seems like the perfect fucking beautiful compromise. Rob gets something raw, a little insane from Dennis, and Glenn gets to show that Dennis really is in fucking love with Mac.

TL;DR: Rob wants Macden now in some kind of dirty, get on with it, Dennis is using Mac kind of way. Glenn doesn't want it canon until they reach the conclusion of this arc that shows Dennis really does have big feelings (good and bad), and those feelings really kinda have a lot to do with Mac.

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AGAIN THESE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS AND I OFTEN WATCH THIS SHOW WHILE HIGH OR CROSS FADED SO IF YOU DISAGREE THATS TOTALLY 100% OKAY I DO NOT CARE IF YOU READ ALL THIS AND THINK IM STUPID OR WAY TOO INSANE ABOUT THIS ALL THATS TOTALLY VALID FOR YOU TO SAY! IF THERES NO JEALOUSY ARC IN s16 I AM A CLOWNNNNN!!!

#ooooh fascinating #i was just talking with a friend about how dennis's attitude changes towards mac in later seasons and this narrative makes so much sense #macden #sunny brainrot

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thegarbagecollector · 8 days

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Me: Dee and Dennis are so fun when they team up!

Dee and Dennis when they team up: