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electricprincess96 7 hours
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OK I don't like the Bruce x Babs ship in BTAS but seeing people calling Bruce a pedophile or a groomer for that storyline is weird when she was in college, and while yes her father is Bruce's friend and that's weird there's nowhere in BTAS that implies he knew her significantly before her introduction episode like Gordon literally has to introduce them properly so if they had met it was briefly at best.
Like we can all agree that ships weird, it's kinda gross cause she dated Dick and there is an age gap that's quite large and it was a betrayal of Jim Gordon as a friend and whatnot. BUT it's not grooming and definitely not pedophilia. These words have meaning. She was an adult even if the age gap was still very large. I do not want to be seeing BTAS Batman being brought up in the same breath as Deathstroke like come on.
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electricprincess96 3 days
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I know that older comic book costumes were very much a product of their time and in flashbacks nowadays many artists will retcon the costumes but I am unnaturally attached to Dick Grayson and Jason Todd getting to bond over the fact they ran around on rooftops thighs out for Gotham and then Tim came along and said "you absolutely freaks won't make me do that I'm wearing tights under this".
Like I know there's many depictions of Jason and Dick where modern artists have given them tights for their Robin suits but I'm sorry for those boys it's the pixie shoes and battle panties or it's nothing for me 馃槀
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electricprincess96 5 days
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Once again the League of Assassins are the worst episode in a Batman series even the ridiculousness of Ra's being in Talia's body doesn't save that Batman Beyond episode from being peak OOC for Bruce.
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electricprincess96 6 days
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I need some people to realise you can like a villain and still acknowledge they are not good people. They can be compelling, they can have interesting and even sometimes very good reasons for their actions but ultimately they're still a villain.
The amount of takes I've seen recently of Deathstroke just being the Bat Familys weird uncle, or where he's shipped with Dick or Jason cause apparently if its gay its okay, is alarming to me. This man canonically sleeps with underage characters and is more interested in killing Dick Grayson than fucking him (cause Dick's now too old for him, yes I went there).
But that doesn't mean you can't enjoy when he's in a story. He's a great villain especially for Dick Grayson and The Titans. But let's not pretend he's somehow anywhere close to redeemable, DC have a lot of other villains much better suited to that than Slade Wilson.
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electricprincess96 6 days
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Which Outlaws lineup do you like most?
Ah now that's a question that could get me in trouble with some people.
Overall I don't actually care for the Outlaws in general. I've always felt Jason was one of the members of the Bat Family that at his core needed to be in Gotham. I understand the desire to take him out of Gotham, due to the overall poor writing surrounding his relationship with Bruce thus they are both just better off not being near eachother. But I don't think DCs bad writing justifies removing some who I just personally feel is one of maybe 2 other Bat Family members besides Bruce who live and breathe Gotham in a way the rest don't and those other two are Selena Kyle and Stephanie Brown.
Honestly if it had been up to me to make a team featuring Jason come the New52 I'd have paired him up with the other "black sheep's" of the Bat Clan ie. Huntress, Spoiler and maybe on occassions Catwoman and had them dealing with the organised criminal underbelly of Gotham leaving Batman to deal with the other costumed rogues.
However, the Outlaws exist, I can get behind Jason leaving for missions with the Outlaws very occasionally the way Robin does with the Titans back in the day.
So to answer your question I'm also gonna upset people here but I prefer the original lineup. I don't care for Jason's romance with Artemis, I much prefer seeing Jason surrounded by friends than DC trying to give him a romantic interest even if she was better than some of the others I still don't care for it. I just felt Roy and Kori were in fact a good influence on Jason, they'd all had their own baggage, Roy used to be the biggest black sheep of the Hero Community etc. So having those two to guide Jason was nice.
I also never cared for the whole Dark Trinity thing they were trying to pull with Jason, Artemis and Bizarro in the marketing for that run.
So yeah ideally if the Outlaws come back I'd like Arsenal to at least be included, i understand why Starfire likely wouldn't be returning. And I don't ship Roy and Jason in anyway because again I feel they both need a friend more so than a lover and their friendship developed so organically unlike many of the forced relationships Jason has found himself in throughout the post New52 years of comics.
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electricprincess96 8 days
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Not dolphin calling me an incel and misogynist and blocking me because I didn't like Dorothea LMAOO.
Cunt doesn't know the definition of incel. I'm insulting you because I know you're piece of fucking shit not because you're a woman you twat.
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electricprincess96 9 days
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What do you make of the change the New52 made with Catherine and Sheila in Jason's Death storyline?
Despise it. And I've argued with plenty of other so called Jason fans on this one. They all hated Sheila and were happy to see her removed from canon but the fact is all they did was give her story to Catherine thus tainting the one good person Jason had in his early childhood. Jason fans need to realise you're meant to hate Sheila, she sold a young boy, her own son out to the Joker. They also need to realise just cause someone is bad to Jason doesn't mean they shouldn't exist for the purposes of the story. Sheila being an awful mother, an awful person, is necessary for Jason's story while tainting Catherine with that storyline removes the one adult figure in Jason's life that he felt didn't actively seek to hurt him even if she still let him down in another way.
Jason feeling ostracised in Bruce's family, finding out Catherine wasn't his birth mother and realising he had a chance at a parental connection with someone who might appreciate him only for that woman to turn him over to the Joker is heartbreaking and contributes to Jason's later unwillingness to trust people (unless you're Talia cause for some reason DC and some Jason fans think that woman is a saint when she used Jason just as much as everyone else, if not worse in many ways and is no better than many of Batman's other Rogues). However, despite this betrayal Jason still tries to save Sheila in the end showing that despite what DC want us to think nowadays about Jason as Robin, he was good at heart, he died a hero, trying to save a woman who sold him out and watched as he was beaten bloody with a crowbar. This is integral of Jason's character, it shows that he was more than the cautionary tale that Batman and modern DC want to turn him into. He was a hero.
Also easily the worst part about the change in the New52 is it makes Jason's entire life the product of some scheme by the Joker. I hate that. Not everything in comic books needs to be some massive conspiracy. Sometimes things can just happen coincidentally. Jason was not the only orphan (or in this case fake orphan since Catherine was not dead in this scenario) on the streets, Batman could have stumbled across any of them, the fact he takes Jason in is entirely because of actions Jason chose to take, no one manipulated Jason into stealing the Batmobiles tyres.
For people who don't know basically in New52 Sheila was replaced with Catherine. Catherine was originally Jason's step mother in Post Crisis Canon but was changed here to be his biological mother. In original canon Jason's father was killed by Two-Face and Catherine died of an "illness" speculated to either be a drug overdose or some form of cancer that she took drugs to try and dull the pain. Regardless Jason ends up orphaned on the streets and then found by Batman when he steals the wheels off the Batmobile to try and sell them for money. Then Jason finds out Catherine is not his real mother and goes searching for Sheila and finds her in Ethiopia where she's working with the Joker (admittedly unwillingly but she's being blackmailed due to her stealing charity funds so honestly I don't feel bad for her in that situation) and Jason tells her he's Robin and can help her with the Joker and instead of taking him up on that offer she sells him out to the Joker.
In New52 the Joker meets Jason pre death of his parents and orchestrates everything. Willis Todd's death, he fakes Catherine's death to leave Jason "orphaned" so that he'll be taken in by Batman and made into Robin, he then threatens Jason by revealing Catherine is alive and that's how he gets Jason to the warehouse where he beats and kills him.
I just hate that. I hate the idea that the Joker basically controlled every part of Jason's life even BEFORE he killed him. Newer DC writers seem obsessed with Jason being a puppet to the Joker due to him being Red Hood, constantly tied to the clown rather than acknowledging Jason taking the name Red Hood is his way of regaining some agency in his own life by taking from the man who took from him. But to a degree I can understand thinking post resurrection Jason is in a way controlled by the Joker, his existence affects Jason. Having the young boy who thought being Robin made him magic also just turn out to be one of the Jokers sick pet projects is just callous, cruel and ultimately adds nothing substantial to Jason's character arc. It was poor writing and I'm thankful for the most part more modern comics seem to have tried to distance themselves from this god awful retcon and that fans seem to have never accepted it as canon to begin with.
The New52 Outlaws run had its moments but I'll he honestly I'm not a huge fan of Lobdell's storylines, overall characterisation wise i think he normally nailed Jason decently well but some of those plots were.... just not good. This is absolutely, 100% one of the worst ones.
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electricprincess96 11 days
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There are sadly a lot of moments in comic over the last 10-20 years that really try and depict Bruce as being a bad father particularly towards Jason.
However, while Jason fans will harp on about the Batarang throat slit and the Gotham War mind fucking. The one that will always be the worst for me is Bruce taking Jason back to where Jason died to demand Jason help him bring Demon Brat back to life because that is as close as DC have come to outright stating they don't believe Bruce's adoptive kids are his REAL children based on the way Bruce speaks to Jason and about Demon Brat in that scene and I find that disgusting.
Now sure they'll acknowledge Dick, he's been around too long and it too popular in his own right, the only way they'll ever be able to remove Dick Grayson from Bruce's family is if they made it Dick's choice.
But Jason, Cassandra and Tim? As far as DC are concerned they don't count and they made it abundantly clear during that scene (and plenty of others this is just the most egregious to me). Taking Jason to the scene of the most traumatic day of his entire existence and talking about Demon Brat like he's the first son you've ever buried, while speaking to the first actual son you buried, coupled with the fact Cassandra and Tim are basically forgotten by Bruce at this point just tells me that to DC they either don't believe these characters are Bruce's children OR they think Bruce believes that and I honestly don't know which is worse.
Like I don't care how grief striken Bruce was, if Bruce still loved Jason even the slightest bit he would not have done that.
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electricprincess96 11 days
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Rewatching Batman Beyond now and I don't care what anyone says Terry will always be the best Batman successor.
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electricprincess96 11 days
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I love the fandom take that Jason is a Wonder Womam fanboy but what I love even more cause its significantly more angsty is that Jason's favourite hero WAS/deep down still IS Batman but he's been hurt too much and he's too much of a prideful little shit to admit it so he says it's Wonder Woman because she's never disappointed him the way Bruce has.
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electricprincess96 13 days
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Just seen someone say Jason's never dated a girl and heavily implying that meant he was a loser.
Someone has clearly never read ANY of the Outlaw runs cause he's had multiple love interests throughout that. He's had exs, he's had civilian girlfriends, he's had hero girlfriends and he's had flings. Sure they never last because DC don't know what they want to do with Jason in general so obviously they can't even decide on a stable love interest for him but trying to claim Jason's lack of long term romantic commitment means he's a loser and can't get a girl is stupid because 1. He seems to easily get the girl, he just isnt stable enough in his life to keep one and 2. Don't be playing this game when Bruce fucking Wayne exists and basically has the exact same love life as Jason Todd.
They can't all be Clark and Lois.
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electricprincess96 14 days
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Seeing people demanding Jason be depicted as somehow horribly deformed post resurrection clearly know nothing about DC lore because the Lazarus Pit LITERALLY HEALS ALL WOUNDS AND SCARS.
Jason came out of the Lazarus Pit spotless. He would not be a rotting corpse like I seen one person demand he should be (their reasoning being they don't like straight white male Jason.... so you don't like Jason? Since that's what he's always been depicted as in the comics? And having him look like a zombie missing pieces of skin doesn't make him any less white, straight or male, you just don't like that he's depicted as conventionally attractive a lot of the time), he would not have old scars from his death like he's depicted as having in Gotham Knights (although this ones better than the rotting corpse bullshit, at least this is still just Jason and i guess for people who cant read between the lines it helps to make it clear bad shit happened to him) because the Lazarus Pit heals all that at the price of fucking with the mind and soul of the person. Any scars Jason should have would have to have all come from AFTER his dip in the Lazarus Pit. Like they literally have multiple comic panels of Jason lamenting the lose of his scars because that was something else the Pit took from him, because while they are traumatic reminders they were still HIS.
That's what is interesting about Jason's trauma. That's why it's hard for him and his family to understand it and work through it. On the outside he looks fine, you don't visibly see his pain because all visual indicators of it are gone. But he carries it with him in his mind. THATS THE POINT! Its easy to feel sympathy or to understand someone's pain when you can see it, its harder when you can't. He's a walking mental health disclaimer and people can't fucking see it cause media literacy is on the ground.
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electricprincess96 14 days
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Also rewatching Batman The Animated Series and realising Tim in that show is just Jason Todd. There is next to nothing of Tim in that character but he's got aspects of Jason's comic origin and characterisation. It just feels like they wanted to do their take on Jason but we're told they couldn't use his name or something like that due to the whole circus around Jason's death outside of the comics. So they took the version of him they wrote and called him Tim Drake instead.
Just found it kinda interesting and amusing while rewatching after so many years. Cause like when I originally watched this show I'd never read a comic book so I wouldn't have been able to know that.
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electricprincess96 16 days
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Happy Death Day Jason Todd. Does he get cake in the shape of a crowbar on this anniversary?
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electricprincess96 19 days
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The crew
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electricprincess96 19 days
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Books. God I've got a busy summer ahead of me 馃槄
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electricprincess96 20 days
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why do you hate female characters? Imagine liking Jason but not Talia.
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Ah yes cause its not like for a good couple years this blog wasn't dedicated partly to loving a green haired, bisexual dragon lady who runs a knock off Catholic Church in a Nintendo Video Game.
I dislike Talia because I find her poorly written, uninteresting and overall tends to bring down other characters she interacts with, primarily Bruce and Jason.
I like Jason because his story is compelling and when it is executed well it is one of the best character arcs in comics. I'll be the first to admit it's rarely executed well especially in more modern times HOWEVER even at its worst Jason was still more interesting and likeable.
I enjoy female comic book characters as well, Jason may be my favourite but he's not the only character I enjoy. I love Selina Kyle because her character exists outside of her relationship with Batman, something that can't be said for Talia, I love Stephanie Brown, I love Poison Ivy, at times I love Harley Quinn depending on the depiction.
This is the one and only ask relating to Talia I probably will answer because I've seen how her fans are, they don't care about genuine criticism towards her, they don't care that some people might just have different tastes, they almost always go for the worst take interpretation of why someone might dislike her and only interact to hurl insults and abuse. Thus from here on out I won't entertain them. I'll continue to dislike The League of Assassins, Talia, Ra's, Talia's Devil Spawn, etc. And they can continue to hate me and people like me for my opinions. They'll do so silently however cause I am more than willing to make liberal use of the block button.
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