#CW enslavement

[probablybadrpgideas]

An actual idea: Making "Animate Dead" Evil Again

Zombies and skeletons in D&D, for all they play to spooky images, aren't really horrific. They're a mismash of two different lores that can't really work together (like a lot of zombie fiction but that's a discussion for another day)- the mindless ravenous predators of modern zombie apocalypse and the tragic undead slaves of the original stories. But they lack either sides symbolic resonance. They're no apocalypse- they're disposable cannon fodder even a starting party can take down- but nor is there any indication that "animate dead" is an actual evil act beyond being kinda gross. This seems very harmless for both a nominal horror monster, and something intended to be a genuinely (indeed, mechanically) evil act.

It doesn't seem possible to make them a real threat without major changes, so the obvious solution to this is a simple fluff change. They're not mindless. They're compelled, they can't act of their own volition. But they're still in there.

They don't shamble. They visibly struggle against the motions their limbs make, as if they were puppets trying to resist their strings. They don't moan. They sob, and when they see the players they force out desperate apologies and pleas for help. They're not stupid. They're intentionally twisting orders and trying to destroy themselves to the best of their ability because they hate the necromancer and are taking what vengeance they can.

Maybe they can genuinely help, if the players will accept it. The "disposable minions" see a lot, and might mutter the necromancer's weaknesses or warnings about an upcoming ambush or whatever useful information they've seen while attacking. Failing that, they fight to lose. They're easy to beat not because they're weak, but because they're on your side. They intentionally move to hinder the necromancer and help the party as much as they're able to, they interpret all the villain's orders as unhelpfully as they can, they hiss encouragements and laugh hollowly when the players succeed.

The undead hordes are victims, not monsters. They're the people the players are trying to help, or at least avenge. And they're trying, as best as they can, to make it happen.

-Pencil.

#horror #D&D #actual idea #CW enslavement #Cw helplessness #CW suicide #cw zombie #cw mind control #I think the fact undead are people is often ignored #Every shadow and wright and wraith and ghoul is a person and should have a personality #Also I feel that if you are doing this it is best to give the zombies some agency #Both due to historical context and also just general victimhood narratives #They hate the necromancer as much as you do #And while they're limited in their ability to do so they're working against him too

[morelikebaldursgay]

I mean admittedly Rugan isn't the worst person I've met in this game, but he stilllll works with enslavers. Which. I think we can all agree is quite bad.

This is still kinda based though.

#Bg3 #rugan #cw enslavement

[greaterstolenlandspolycule]

It didn't include my/Ainsel's response, but I think you can get the picture from the result.

#Pfkm #pfkm “live”blog #Regongar #Octavia della fiorni #Cw enslavement

[stheresya]

Daenerys' storyline in ADWD is a good way to complexify heroic narratives without invalidating the idealism of the savior. What is in question isn't the morality of freeing slaves (because that's already indisputable), but how to integrate them in society in a effective way when that goes against ancient traditions of subjugation. It offers an honest portrayal of power struggle, how the oppressing class does not give up their power easily, and in order to make a revolution stick you must give the oppressed the necessary tools to keep themselves empowered, the oppressed must be able and willing to reign fire on those who seek to put them in chains again. With heroic narratives there's always an extraordinary someone saving people from certain doom and everyone is happy. the end. But with Dany there's an exploration of the aftermath. Her storyline explores her struggle of wanting to do good, on trying to keep her people safe while dealing with powerful people who seek to maintain their hierarchies. It's an exploration of what power can mean to different groups. Power can be about subjugation but it can also be a way to prevent yourself from being subjugated. The great masters would not have behaved differently if Dany had proposed gradual and peaceful reforms on slavery, because they cared first and foremost about their status as a ruling class, and that status was only possible through the exploitation of other people, because for a group to be above requires all others to be below, stepped on by those above.

#last semester i studied about the process of slavery abolishment in my country during the 19th century #which was a process done mostly through gradual and peaceful reforms #and yet the slave owners still did ALL they could (increasing violence against enslaved ppl + human trafficking) to maintain the system #people who truly believe in slaving others are vile in any scenario. because slavery is vile. there's no way around it. #daenerys targaryen #a dance with dragons #asoiaf #valyrianscrolls #cw slavery

[misstranci]

They should be so lucky... 😈

They never think it's real, until it is.

#hypnokink #hypnodomme #hypnotic #hypnosub #cw flashing #trance #enslaved #mesmerize #misstranci

[gothyanki]

thinking about her (Gith the Liberator)

Thinking about how much I wish she were the deliciously messy, morally complex, and believably motivated protagonist of a Space Lesbians vs. Empire trilogy instead of a flat villain/historical footnote in the Fiend Folio. Unfortunately, DnD.

#mother gith apologia #but SERIOUSLY #they really created this leader of a successful uprising that freed a people who'd been enslaved so long their original name had been lost #and made her a one-dimensional villain with no real personality/motivation #not only does she not get to be the centre of her own story #she barely even has a story #it's all just grist for the “eeeevil-aligned species” mill #we don't really know why she decided conquering the planes would be a great idea #or why vlaakith i betrayed her #because the big assumption underpinning those plot points is “this is what happens when oppressed peoples become Too Liberated” #where's my chonky book series about her + vlaakith i + zerthimon fomenting rebellion together and developing irreconcilable differences? #in the right author's hands it could be so good #let Gith be an actual character 2k23 #githcourse #slavery cw #oh dnd lore #as with all their historically “evil” species: there's a lot to unpack here #and I completely understand why some people would rather throw away the whole backpack #sorry about the giant tag essay rant. it will happen again. #I started essaying in someone else's tags and then realised it would be more polite to just make my own post #githyanki

[deanmarywinchester]

absolutely stupid that the way black sails engages with pirates’ complicity in slavery was the whole thing with jack and the fort rather than flint, while trying to ally with the maroons, reckoning with the fact that his crew, like all pirate crews of the time, would have considered enslaved people just another part of the value of a prize ship. (at that time pirate crews freed and took on some english-speaking enslaved people if they could work but that would’ve been a small minority of the enslaved people on captured ships.) I can understand that the writers might’ve thought that was a line they couldn’t cross with someone who’s ostensibly the hero you root for, but eliding it just feels strange to me. at the very least I needed to see flint reckon with the fact that he was not always as ideologically motivated as he is in s3-4 and would have been complicit in nassau’s return to english rule if the plan with peter ashe had gone through, + what that would’ve meant for the people he now calls his allies

#slavery cw #like I understand that the jack thing was meant to show us jack in an impossible position and the lines that jack but not vane would cross #but it doesn’t even do a good job of that And it makes jack and vane the only ones complicit when every crew and the guthries would have #been too #my posts #black sails tag #RELATEDLY absolutely stupid that joshua or literally any Black sailor on flint’s crew wasn’t a pov character #i think the different treatment of a Black sailor who spoke english and an enslaved person who didn’t speak english and couldn’t sail #is important to have seen and reckoned with as we looked at the maroons and pirates forging their alliance

[writernopal]

Nopal! Please, please tell me more about lizardfolk women - I don't recall seeing them on page that much?

What's the current fashion? What's their typical role in the society? Anything else about them you want to share?

Sam! Thank you for the ask!!

Oh my Lizardfolk ladies! This is going to be SUPER LONG because this topic is so loaded and you are getting me so STARTED on it lol so I'll put most of it under a cut because I have A LOT to say! i think you may have just unlocked the longest info-dump/unprompted close reading of my own work so congrats lol Before we get into the meaty lore, I'll address this point!

I don't recall seeing them on page that much?

This is both intentional and something that happened as a by-product of who the main characters are in AASOAF. Let me explain.

CW: misogyny, aggressive patriarchy, mentions of enslavement

AASOAF is primarily told through the lens of Mariel and Axtapor, joined later by the POV's of Fay and Wilkes in AASOAF 2 and 3, but of that cast, Axtapor is the closest to typical Lizardfolk society and experience. But here's the thing: he's a male and because he was brought up in the highly patriarchal system of Lizardfolk, he (and we as readers) start the series from that perspective. That is, mostly blind or flat out ignoring the experience and role of women in Lizardfolk society aside from reciting the surface effects that directly impact him and his experience as a man.

To quote him from AASOAF 1:

[My grandmother] had always resented my grandfather for turning her children into cruel, unfeeling people. Her daughters were not that way, but she never saw them again after they were wed. That was customary since a wife should live with her husband to raise his children and support his clan. As a result, she was left surrounded by her sons, and sons were rarely influenced by their mothers in The Empire.  Most men saw them as a bother more than anything. I know I certainly did. My own mother was a stifled, sad creature who had to simper and bow just right lest she offend my father. It was exhausting to bear witness to. And grandmothers were, more or less, nonexistent to their grandsons, making the relationship that my grandmother and I had a strange one. They didn’t form connections with them, let alone write and visit with one another as we did. I was well past marrying age too. If there should be anyone I should be spending time with of the opposite sex, it should be my wife.

There are a few other instances where in AASOAF 1 when he speaks about women in a pretty derogatory/selfish and frankly, misogynistic way that reflects his upbringing:

In the past, I’d never imagined a woman doing anything for me beyond being intimate. And it had never mattered to me if a woman enjoyed being in my company or if she wanted to spend time doing simple things with me. Their opinions of me also didn’t matter too much so long as I was satisfied...

I narrowed my eyes in her direction. She wasn’t even in half-mourning. Husbands had the option to be in half-mourning after the passing of their wives, but wives weren’t given such a choice.

This, along with the intentional omission of their mention is not only meant to construct Axtapor's character, especially because these criticisms are largely omitted when he speaks about his grandmother, but the Empire as a whole since we don't physically visit that location in any significant way until AASOAF 2.

So the absence/narrow representation of Lizardfolk women is there precisely to make you ask the question that you posed and to make you uncomfortable. You are forcefully put in the shoes of someone who has benefited from that position in the overall hierarchy and presented with his view which is taken and supported as fact in the context of the story. His grandmother, Lady Fisla, tries to knock some sense into him but he mostly brushes her off and decides shutting up is easier than having it out with her. This contributes to the overall narrative of the female experience and unseen struggle that is both a prominent theme and undercurrent throughout the work.

Snippet of that here:

“And your luck is much better than that of your sisters’, who, despite being born into the same family as you, have no choice but to live under [your father's] thumb until they are married. At which point, they are to be crushed by their husbands instead. You, Axtapor, have the world laid at your feet because you are male and because you are nobility. You have the great fortune that your legs can simply walk you to freedom. Those around you are not the same. They are not your equals. Never forget that and do not use it as a weapon or measure for which you pass judgment upon others.” I didn’t know how to respond, so I just nodded instead.  She so rarely lectured me and was usually rather calm, even unbothered, but for those few moments, she changed completely. I wondered how such a transformation might be possible given her usual demeanor, but I supposed I had stricken a nerve.

This starts to change in AASOAF 2 and definitely in AASOAF 3, with the introduction of Lizardfolk women to the cast and the perspective of an eye-opened Axtapor who has become more aware of their struggles and circumstances due to the events of AASOAF 1. In AASOAF 2 especially, we start to examine how the nature of his upbringing is also harmful to him via his internal monologue and interactions with Mariel and in AASOAF 3 things come to a head and a lot of his core values are challenged along with that of other Lizardfolk men around him. But I won't get into that here!

DEEP BREATH NOW

What's the current fashion?

So I talked a bit about fashion here but I'll pull the more relevant bits out of that!

Each house has a style they prefer. House of War prefers styles similar to traditional Thai dress, the House of Law prefers styles similar to 17th-century Japanese garments, and the House of Dreams prefers styles similar to Mughal period Indian fashion. Their winter wear, when they have need of it, is heavily inspired by Mongolian fashion. Additionally, corsets are favored by women of the Holtep Empire. These are not the undergarments you might imagine for human people, nor are they worn all the time, usually only for special occasions and usually only by the nobility. They are worn with special robes that expose the midriff and are made of steel. They are more like armor than anything else, and unlike human corsets are meant solely for aesthetic purposes; they don't support breasts (bc they don't have any) and are intended to emphasize how small a woman's waist is. It is the most desired of traits in the Empire.

Those of nobility would of course wear finer, more elaborate garments than those of the lower and working classes.

What's their typical role in the society?

Their role is seen exclusively as a method to continue lineages, to form clan alliances via marriage, to raise her husband's children (no, they are not considered hers), and support his clan. They have little to no agency over their own affairs or lives unless they are widowed or otherwise "socially encumbered" (I'll come back to that in a second).

To quote Axtapor from AASOAF 2:

Daughters did as they were commanded in The Empire. They married the man her father selected for her and popped out as many clutches as her husband demanded of her. The practice didn’t bother me for a long time; it just seemed like a fact of life, but that was no longer the case. It wasn’t right; how could it be?! But unbelievably, to every man here, and quite possibly every man in The Empire, it was. It was as right as the sun rising in the east and setting in the west. These women were not living beings with feelings; they were playthings, pawns in their game to move upwards, being crushed over and over and expected to smile like they were grateful for it!

So despite being awarded, lands, titles, and wealth upon completing their ikismals, they are mostly named as custodians of those things to hold them as a kind of dowry to be absorbed completely by her husband when she marries. I should note, even the ikismal ceremonies for women are unbalanced against those for men.

Men are instructed to survive in the wilds for five days with nothing but a knife and bring back a kill by the end of it. Women are symbolically thrown out into the desert to survive, by way of being placed in a hut where she must meditate for the whole of the five days. By the end, she is expected to have shaken off her girlhood mentality via this meditation and is deemed patient and rational enough to enter society properly. They are left without food or water though, just like the men, so it is possible that they can perish during this time as the men do. Once they enter society the expectation is that they fully support their husband's endeavors and largely remain silent about it.

NOW

This is not the case if a woman is widowed or "socially encumbered." If she is widowed, Oepus law states (yes this is for all women on Oepus, not just the Empire) that she observes mourning practices (clothing, rituals, etc) according to her country of residence and that she cannot take another partner for two years. This is the doing of The Pale Kings and their relationship with Priestesses of Shanta which is a separate thing that I won't get into here.

However, in the Empire, a woman is not forced to remarry once she is widowed. The idea behind this is that she has served her "purpose" and as long as she's had children with her late husband, then she is no longer of use. She is typically bequeathed with some amount of wealth and a private estate or residence according to her husband's station and a portion of his slaves. She has no rank and is not recognized as a matriarch of her family, despite bearing the clan name and still being associated with her late husband's station. She may come and go as she pleases and is at the top of the "woman pecking order" because she has done her duty. Lady Fisla falls into this category, and is cited as a great lady by Axtapor and female peers in her circle, but the men of Clan Oxlo still don't treat her with much respect.

Now for the "socially encumbered." These are women that for one reason or another, are deemed not fit for marriage. Either because they don't have a large enough dowry, they come from a clan of low repute, have committed a social taboo, etc, etc. Basically if they have any "undesirable" trait they can fall into this category. This is highly subjective but can be enough to punt someone down several social ranks. Other women in this category are those who are considered caretakers to other members of their family, be that children, the disabled, or injured. This means that professions like nursing, teaching, and childcare provided to those outside the home, including extended family, are frowned upon and not considered feminine or proper for a lady to engage in. Axtapor's cousin, Lady Idhi, falls into this category.

She, however, is not afforded any wealth or other luxuries as her grandmother is due to her widowed status. Instead, she thrives off her own dowry, another thing which is seen as taboo because it's considered theft. As a result, she is largely excommunicated from Clan Oxlo goings on and does not have the 'rights' to enter the marriage market. This status essentially means you're invisible which can be a good and a bad thing because you're pretty much isolated from any help if you ever need it.

Anything else about them you want to share?

They are incredibly shrewd and bold, something that you can see in almost all of the Lizardfolk women mentioned in the series including, Lady Fisla, Lady Idhi, Lady Phreldra (Axtapor's mother) and historical figures like the woman behind Solas Week, Mother Mazvah, and Lady Maliah, First Empress of The Holtep Empire, more on her here. As experienced members of society, they understand that to get ahead in their world they must operate underhandedly and silently, gaming the system in their favor where they can. This is pretty apparent in the beginning of AASOAF 2 and will play a pretty big role in AASOAF 3. As a side note, this shrewdness is also demonstrated by Fay due to her closeness with her adoptive Lizardfolk family.

Axtapor's sisters, Lady Ulsei and Lady Egra, don't fall into this category and are portrayed as quite transparent and lacking substance but this is because the two of them are used to explore the effects of their upbringing in the wider world of Oepus similar to the way Axtapor is used throughout the series. What I will say is that these two are key players in the latter half of AASOAF 3.

And finally, we have Alma, Fay and Wilkes' adoptive mother, who is more representative of the lower/working class experience of Lizardfolk women that I didn't even touch on in this post. I might make a separate one about her with that context in mind since there is a lot to her story that deserves to have it's own place.

#aasoaf #aasoaf lore #meta aasoaf lore #lizardfolk #lizardfolk women #info dump #axtapor #lady fisla #idhi #ulsei #egra #lady phreldra #alma #fay #mariel #cw: misogyny #cw: patriarchy #cw: enslavement #aasoaf 1 #aasoaf 2 #aasoaf 3

[vacant2007]

i never do anything with love when i get it

#i desperately need it but something always makes me stop when i receive it and have the option of responding positively so that i can #receive more of it #and even the people im closest to rn. the only thing that emboldens me to get that way w them is the idea that we might never meet irl #i want so much to be excited by the idea of doing that but instead it just scares the shit out of me #and im always shocked to realize people have anything other than neutral or negative emotions about me but my brain always convinces me #that it doesnt matter or that they wouldnt continue feeling that way if they knew me better #love is just so fucking scary. i fixate on its ability to destroy or enslave #in searching for happiness i could ruin my entire life i could get myself killed or worse i could be trapped in misery forever #and everything that allows me to respect myself and know myself would be traded away for the sake of it #love is uncertain and claustrophobic and terrifying and love has the power to kill and maim but love is also necessary to stay alive. #what do i do with this. #cw vent #cw negative

[grislyintentions]

Do you think there’s any possible way to bind an adepus to a human? Or like a special object or magic to make an adeptus do your bidding? An interesting concept no? If I could force Xiao to do anything it would be for him to rest lol

(also I hope you’re getting plenty of rest<3 always put your health first)

Prior to Xiao's liberation by Zhongli, he spent countless years being enslaved/in servitude towards a cruel god [loosely termed "Goddess of Dreams"] so if that is possible then I believe yes there may be a way to do so but I personally think that would be cruel to re-traumatise him by taking away his autonomy and freedom. Even if someone forcibly took over with his own good in mind, that can result in more harm. Someone like Zhongli could arguably make the other adepti listen to his commands - but note that he has never once forced them into such a position. They listen because they respect his leadership and all that he has done but just as likely they can choose not to.

[And thank you! I definitely will ^^ <3 you take care of yourself too!]

#enslavement cw #dubious consent tw #[also i think anemo elemental powers are highly tied to the concept of freedom (be it fervently wanting to free someone or seeking #freedom for themselves to grow ie: wanderer] #abuse tw #[twas a good question to expound upon! thank u for asking ^^]

[blackcultureis]

From @empressonyx (they/them/theirs) on tiktok

#black history matters #black history #florida #florida education #black people #enslavement #african american #important #blm #racism #cw antiblackness #cw sa mention #ask to tag

[greaterstolenlandspolycule]

Amiri I love you dearly.

#Pfkm #pfkm “live”blog #Amiri of the six bears #cw enslavement

[polysyndetonaddictsupportgroup]

Fantastic chapter like always and absolutely adorable.

I love how you expand so much on the characters even the dead ones in this fic in a way that makes them so present in the narrative. The way this makes Frank just completely absorbed by his family constantly while still building them as real people independent to him is great. Just the little details about Maria this chapter and how they relate to Matt is absolutely fantastic

The situation between Peter and Frank needed to blow up spectacularly before getting resolved I should have known that something would actually blow up.

The way you showed the Spidey sense in action through Franks pov was really good it's my favorite Spidey power and really fun to see in action.

Poor Peter though. I hope that once the situation gets resolved he can have a good cry about everything ever.

Also I really want Tony to get punched in the face. Just a small punch! Just once! But Jesus Christ the way he handled this situation has been so bad for Peter I am so angry at him. I know he's dealing with something behind the scenes bit still he needs to think about the impact this all has on Peter it's so bleak and isolating

i simply love explosions and add them in to everything i can. they're the spice of life. do not have the police investigate me i am so so normal about fire

Maria Castle is alive in my head and I love her. the version that lives in my head simply loves Matt. He's the dumbass little brother she's always wanted. He enchants her with his poor decision making and emotional unavailability. When he comes over she insists on throwing herself in his arms and he twirls her around because it annoys frank and they're inherently both assholes. The Maria in my head will never be showcased unless i end up pushing my Castle Family Agenda in earnest, but I will reference her as she exists in my head in works where she's still dead. I love her your honor.

The reaction to tony in kintsugi continues to be hilarious to me because kintsugi partially exists because I didn't see this reaction post-CW. Like the reaction I saw was mostly hardcore Iron Dad and i just didn't really see or hear a lot of commentary about how he handled the time between CW and Homecoming. And in kintsugi I changed literally nothing about how Tony treated Peter in that time and people are soooo mad at him. It's kind of funny

#there definitely were people who also didn't like how tony handled the time between CW and homecoming i just never really saw them #like to be clear i don't think this response originated with kintsugi and op you may have felt this way pre kintsugi #it's just part of the thing that kicked off this fic was that i didn't like tony going radio silent after CW #and then getting a world best dad mug from the fandom after it #i'm so glad y'all agree #the tony stark thing was the one thing i took no creative liberties on it's just straight up canon #like it's far from intentional but that's the thing you've got a kid and you've got to think past that intention to how it may hurt them #like tony throughout homecoming just. didn't make a single decision with respect to peter i agreed with. not in the entire movie. #i walked out like 'wow i would sort of try to have this man arrested if peter was my child' which was NOT the fandom takeaway that i saw #i just saw like 900000 irondad fics applauding it #it was pretty bad child care all around #the first step of kintsugi #pottery shards verse #thank you for reading and coming to talk to me you are a delight as always and i am soooo grateful #your kinds words are always a joy #pottery shards is not abandoned i'm just enslaved to hyperfixation right now which is over in the tma side

[e-m-p-error]

"Are you serious?" - Vaggie to Velvette!

𝐀𝐑𝐑𝐄𝐒𝐓𝐄𝐃 𝐃𝐄𝐕𝐄𝐋𝐎𝐏𝐌𝐄𝐍𝐓 𝐏𝐑𝐎𝐌𝐏𝐓𝐒

[ Velvette ]

Holding her hands up in a mock-placating gesture, Velvette's sneer belied her true intentions. This one was wily, and often lied about whatever she was doing or saying.

"Unfortunately, I don't make the rules," She did, "Company policy. If I could do something, I would," She wouldn't, "But it looks like you're in some serious shit with my good ol' buddy ol' pal. Val's such a sweetheart if you know how to deal with him, you know?"

She knew, between her and Vox, how to placate him, how to get him to chill out. It took some effort, but it always worked, without fail.

Cackling behind her hand as though it might hide some of her teeth when she did so, she grinned brightly, her eyes nearly closing with the motion. Leaning forward a little more, she pointed at Vaggie's face and swirled her finger as it edged closer to her nose. She was going in for that boop.

"Just a wittle kitten cat. An angwy bunnya. Buuuut, I can offer you something he can't. And that's a fair trade here. You're cute, and you're smart, and you know better than to mess with him. Val's deals are raw ten times out of nine. Shit end of the stick sitch kinda deal, right? You know that, I know that. He's a slave driver."

It was rare to hear of people contracted to Velvette, but a lot of that had to do with a spell she did to keep them under control. A good love potion usually kept them docile and sweet on her, and she wasn't above using it on everyone she contracted.

Absently poking Vaggie's nose suddenly, she dropped her hand immediately after, seemingly bored with it. It lost it's charm fast.

"But, a deal with me? I'm honest," She wasn't, "I wouldn't lead you astray," She would, "And I can protect you from Cali Vallie! It's not like he can take my contracts. He's... Oh. I dunno. He knows the line's thin between ownership and sharing is caring."

Tapping her lips with one finger, she nodded definitively, as if assuring both of them that she was right.

"We share a lot of everything all the time, but what's mine is still mine. You and your pretty girl contract with me and it's a safe bet he can't have you. Sooooooo, whaddya say? Wanna be a shiny, new soul for me, Schnookie Bear? Or you gonna keep fuckin' with Val until he breaks you down and takes you?"

#Hollywood Made A Killing Machine She’s Like A Teenage Slaughter Movie Scene A Serial Killer Celebrity (νєℓνєттє) #(Velvette and Vaggie - erthlyheavn) #(Valentino and Vaggie - erthlyheavn) #cw enslavement mention #cw possessiveness

[the-nettle-knight]

I've just encountered a person on tiktok who's saying that their SO is gonna buy them a human skull for an engagement gift. When informed that there's no way to do that ethically they literally told me they don't care. What a gross gross thing to do

#they speak #cw #ugh this is giving me the bad shivers #especially after i told them that the bones often come from enslaved people

[thanflowers]

sometimes i think about how hawke not only gets the option to turn fenris back over to danarius but also to re-enslave orana all without any repercussions and i just want to kick down the walls at bioware and ask them what the fuck kind of protagonist they were writing. 

#i literally don't care about ''moral ambiguity'' it's not morally ambiguous to enslave someone or turn someone back over to their enslaver #those options weren't fun lil morally grey choices #it's evil full stop #ooc. ( off questing ) #slavery mention cw //