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lord-squiggletits · 4 months

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On the MegOP fandom trend of saying "Optimus should apologize to Megatron"

(Speaking specifically for IDW1, though it applies to a lot of MegOP especially ones that do continuity soup with heavy reference to IDW1)

I was talking to a friend in DMs and they mentioned a common headcanon/fanfic trope that I also concurred with, and both of us said it's something that bothers us: a common take in the MegOP fandom goes basically along the lines of "If Optimus had just apologized to Megatron, the war would've ended" (or other variants including "if he'd tried harder to understand Megatron/work in collaboration with him").

And firstly, this is incorrect for a number of reasons:

There were attempts at peace negotiations during the war, but they fell through. So Optimus WAS trying to work with Megatron to the point of participating in formal diplomatic meetings.

Optimus tried multiple times on page to convince Megatron to just stop fighting and work with him for peace (Autocracy, Chaos Theory) that Megatron rejected. Given that these on-page examples take place at the start of the war and at the end of the war respectively, it makes sense that Optimus asking Megatron for collaboration is something he was trying/willing to do the entire time. So again, Optimus was always willing AND ATTEMPTING to work with Megatron and find a joint solution

Even before the war when Optimus was still Orion, he was very explicitly inspired by Megatron's writing and names Megatron as one of the people who "opened his eyes" to the wrongs of Cybertronian society. So how is it that people claim "the war went on for too long because Optimus never tried to understand Megatron" when OP literally named Megatron as one of his biggest idols, thus implying that OP does understand Megatron's ideals

But the primary purpose of this post wasn't to defend Optimus, actually. Even though I personally think Optimus did plenty (dare I say, everything) to try to end the war, there are some who may still think otherwise, so instead of arguing about whether Optimus did "enough", or who should apologize to whom, or who "deserves the blame" for starting/continuing the war, I'd actually rather talk about this:

No matter who is most "to blame" for the war, it's my firm belief that neither Megatron nor Optimus would even expect/demand the other to apologize to them at all.

On Megatron's side, he would never seek to judge Optimus negatively for the decisions to the point of saying "you wronged me, apologize." Whether it's evil Megatron who doesn't care about atrocities and revels in an opportunity to expose Optimus as a hypocrite, or post-war/Autobot Megatron who knows that his own evil actions are irredeemable, the idea of Megatron judging Optimus and demanding an apology for the war specifically strikes me as out-of-character. Why would Megatron demand or even want an apology from Optimus when Megatron knows fully well that he has his own sins to bear, he prolonged the war for his own selfish/material gain, and that he is responsible for an untold amount of suffering? Demanding an apology would imply that Megatron sees himself as the wronged party and Optimus as the wrongdoer, but by the end of the war, Megatron is too aware of his own part in the war to ever demand such a thing of Optimus. Even if he DID think that Optimus was "equally to blame" for the war (which he doesn't/wouldn't, btw), Megatron's own feelings of guilt would prevent him from trying to seek the petty satisfaction of the moral high ground or making Optimus beg for his forgiveness.

Additionally, Megatron knows Optimus very well as a person: he knows that the position of leadership is full of "loneliness [and] agonizing self-doubt" for Optimus (Chaos Theory) and that "when Optimus hurts others, he hurts himself" (MTMTE). Another reason that Megatron wouldn't demand nor want an apology from Optimus is because Megatron knows Optimus so well that he already knows that being a war leader fills Optimus with immense guilt and suffering. Given that Megatron knows about Optimus' self-doubt and guilt, why would he even need an apology when he already knows how much Optimus regrets the war and desperately wishes/wished for it to end?

Then, as established in the previous paragraphs, Optimus is too full of guilt for his part in the war (both before it started and in being unable to stop it sooner) to demand an apology from Megatron. Again, demanding an apology would put Optimus in an implied position of moral superiority and/or victimhood, but Optimus doesn't see himself as morally superior or as a victim (or rather, he sees himself as being responsible for these bad things happening and internalizes this as a duty to do better/fix wrongdoings). In other words, Megatron and Optimus both share this view of themselves and each other: Their hands are so dirty, and they both feel such guilt over this, and they know each other well enough to know that the other feels this way as well. Because both of them feel blame for the war and are acutely aware of their own flaws/part in suffering, both of them feel far too responsible for the war happening for them to ever blame their archnemesis for "not trying harder" or "being responsible for the war."

Hell, if you even look at the socio-political climate of Cybertron before the war started, neither Megatron nor Optimus were the ones who put this conflict into motion. The corrupt legacy of the Primes, Functionism, class issues-- all of these things existed before Megatron and Optimus did. Even once they started doing things like writing about social issues (M) or fighting against the Senate (OP), both of them were "underlings" in sense that they weren't leaders:

Megatron's writings may have inspired the Decepticon movement, but that movement existed as an independent entity with its own leaders and speakers long before Megatron became the "official" ruler of the Decepticons. He wasn't even the leader of the 'Cons until he took control of the gladiator arena and the nonviolent sections of the Decepticons were (presumably) subsumed into the underground, exploitative battle culture that Megatron created.

Optimus-as-Orion was a police officer to start, but even once he started going against the Senate, he mainly worked in collaboration with others like Senator Shockwave and Zeta (later Zeta Prime), who he either saw as his idols or who were literally superior to him in rank due to government/military structures.

So with this in mind, even from a social level, while Megatron and Optimus may have been "catalysts" of a sort that caused the war to escalate to an outright planetary/galactic level, the scenario is too complex to solely lay the blame for the war at either of their feet. I'm not confident in saying that Megatron/Optimus would explicitly think of this when talking to each other, but what I'm trying to say is that M/OP were just catalysts in a long chain of brewing tension that exploded into a war. Even if one could claim that one of them "started" or "escalated" the war, the social issues that caused the war and the positions of power that allowed them to become leaders in the first place were falling into place before either of them actually BECAME leaders.

In other words, this shared fate of being the final reaction that exploded a societal conflict into outright war... Megatron and Optimus both have that in common. And because of this, I really don't think either of them would even think to ask the other to apologize because they're both in such similar positions, with such similar feelings of guilt and responsibility, that they understand each other's feelings without words. To demand an apology would be akin to taking that shared vulnerability/guilt and stepping on it, attempting to claim that one is right/superior and the other is wrong/inferior, and that the inferior one needs to grovel and take responsibility for the bad things that happened.

#squiggposting #idw megop #idk if this'll get me hate or not but it's something i think about a lot #and verbalizing it to that friend in DMs helped me put into words why that common fanon take bothers me #also. hot take but if any 'apologies' are necessary then it's M who should be apologizing to OP #the war may be both of their faults but M is the one who explicitly did/said things just to hurt OP and break his spirit #i'm tired of ppl who don't understand (or at least don't discuss) how hurt OP is and how he deserves recogniztion of his feelings too #megop #then again this fanon take may just be a consequence of continuity soup culture #where ppl don't have to acknowledge specific things that M or OP did bc they can just selectively include or not include details from canon #so like. i guess in their continuity soup continuties their fanon is technically correct #but in terms of the source material which is the one shared experience we all have and the common language we derive fanon from #this fanon is very incorrect. or at least i hope i've managed to argue that it's incorrect #anyways the thesis of megop is that they're equals and opposites who are inextricably tied to each other #fanon that tries to place the blame on one or castigate one of them is missing the point of megop #the point is that they're equal. equally strong and charismatic and amazing. and equally culpable #even if they're not literally equally responsible for idw megop at least they at least both FEEL responsible #and i don't think idw megops are the type to mince words about who's 'more responsible'#they're both depressed old men who hate themselves and regret basically their whole lives. why would they judge each other like that

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louebel · 6 months

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man i love jinbe

#like. he's so cool.#every strawhat gives me a different feeling... well same goes for all the characters but it's like #i never had this connection with characters in other shows #maybe good omens and yuuji in jjk but. idk. they be hitting different in op #anyway he seems like such a great guy. i mean. he is. but to hangout w him?? he'd just listen to u and offer laughs tips cause he got #various experiences himself + he'd def help u out if u wanna change or try smth new but he'd also just. stop u if ur going the wrong way #u could just watch the stars with him without a word and it'd still be nice. man. jinbe ily #hangout session with him robin franky and brook o yea that sounds amazing #txt. ♠︎

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pigeontakeover · 2 years

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Literally out of money and my dog doesn't have any food left if anyone wants to help me feed my dog I just need 40$ for a bag of food please to last until my next paycheck on October 8th. I can survive for a month on rice but my dog can't

Cashapp @ mythicexplorer123

Zelle : dm me for my number

#omg im the op #mutual aid #donation post #please please please help my dog out #shes an amazing little sweetheart #crowdfund #mutual aid request #crowdfunding #donations

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gralixe · 2 months

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One Piece has so much gall giving so much screen time to characters I truly do not give a fuck about

#my thots #one piece #sorry wano #ur amazing except for all the parts that suck #sorry carrot I just don’t wanna see ur lame fight I never cared abt Pedro anyway lmao 😭#I do fuck w Marco tho he can stay #law and kid u are in. drake and apoo sashay away #odens entire backstory was a FUCKING CHORE #I would love oden a lot more if I wasn’t forced to watch all that lmfao #do u think oda knows that story events can be communicated without literally showing it fully and completely #through like clever dialogue and environmental storytelling and LIMITED backstory #anyway wano is still s tier #this is how u kno op fans r fucking cooked 😭#I’ll be like yeah 30 hours of this arc were unwatchable. amazing tho #Sanji getting kidnapped by sexy ladies (again) was whatever. I am so so sick of his I’ll never hit a woman thing I’m sorry #bro some women r evil and literally fighting u…. u have 2 fight them back babes…..#however him calling for help? S TIER #FINALLY #LOVED #made it worth it to me #Robin said I love having friends 😘#they save me I save them #now for oda to have Zoro need savings #put that man into some situations #make him more pathetic. do it u won’t #idk when this turned into my ranking rant #anyway #wano #wano spoilers

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syoish · 7 months

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I'm sorry to everyone who knows me, I think I'm about to revert back to my 12 year old self and be really into one piece again

#OP was one of my first animes #12-15 year old me was OBSESSED #I never thought I'd be back here?????#hello????????#me?#Once again in love with monkey d. luffy???#god help me #the live action was simply amazing though #I had a friend who watched it a few weeks back #and was like “huh I think I want to watch the anime”#and I was like “why would you ever do that to yourself?”#(as someone who watched 500+ episodes I feel I'm allowed to have this opinion)#and I couldn't understand why someone would want to watch one piece after a silly little live action #and now I get it #I get why you would want to watch one piece after watching a silly little live action #I blog

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corvuscrowned · 2 years

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twice departed

happy two year tumblrversary lovely liv @sitp-recs! thank you so much for all of the encouragement and support you’ve given to me and everyone in fandom. to celebrate your two year anniversary, here are 400 words of run ons featuring draco reflecting on his two-year anniversary with harry. thanks so much to @written-in-ash for helping me fight commas.

The sun burned embers on the horizon before they realized what the departing day marked — a line drawn against time, and crossed again by clumsy feet. Draco knew he could never capture it, but if he tried, it might be:

The outline Harry’s hair made on summer-sunned days — short, and then long, and then short again — but always capturing the same glow as fading daylight thinned itself into a halo. The path Draco took as he walked behind him, fitting his feet into footsteps forged in flattened grass, Harry always a few paces ahead, and rarely looking back.

Or the dark skids against the floors of their first, and then second, and then third flats, where the legs of couches and tables dragged against cheap linoleum and imitation hardwood. The stains that would be lifted easily with scouring spells if they hadn’t long ago stopped bothering to erase their mistakes.

Or the burn of his tongue on too-hot tea. Or the crumpled fabric of threadbare t-shirts tossed into the corners of bathrooms. Or the particular wrist movement for spells that revived wilting ivy and overwatered succulents. Or the way that when Harry tried to leave him, he closed the door so gently the sound could be hushed away by a quiet sigh or the breeze through an open window. The way that when Harry came back, it was louder each time, a revelry of bags dropped on floors and brooms clattering walls and a path stamped by heavy footfall, one Draco thought the floor might one day memorize as it seeped into the earth below.

Or the sound of slow, quiet breaths, cheeks squished against armrests, and the deep slumber of a man who earned his every exhale, even the ones that turned to snores. Or the sheen of moonlight spread thin across sweat rich sheets on the nights Draco lay awake and wondered. Not whether they would one day tear each other apart, but whether they already had: limb from limb, only to find themselves demolished things, recomposed into reflected shapes that always recognized each other, if seldom themselves.

Or the two years behind them, not a threshold but a bridge. And a future Draco might try to pluck as if from a tree, to sink his teeth into and let dribble down his cheeks, knowing he would never truly taste it until it was kissed from his lips.

#thanks for doing what you do liv!!#i still have some of your rec lists saved on my phone from before i started writing #and it's so wild bc i never imagined i would get to know you!!#they helped me discover some amazing fics #and your recs were so encouraging when i was just starting out #for me and so many others #so thank you!#drarry #drarry drabble #op

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rodeoromeo · 1 year

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youve mentioned that you think oh darling is the best beatles song :0c i am curious as to why? (& have to agree, its so ~i n t e n s e~)

honestly I just think it’s such an insanely timeless and solid song. it’s my absolute favorite vocal from Paul, and I think it literally could have come out yesterday and sound as good as it did in the 60s. it’s so visceral and the lyric is good and the sound is good and it’s just a complete hit top to bottom. The drum part is awesome. It’s just tight. And if you know me, it’s totally crazy that I give that honor to a Paul song. it’s just one of those times he wrote one of the best songs I’ll ever hear in my freakin life.

#like maybe I’m amazed tbh.#op #b talks #oh darling kinda helped usher me back into the Beatles

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echidnana · 9 months

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maybe this is just bc we're thinking about top surgery but. Ichika top surgery arc and leoni helps him recover

#honami would be AMAZING at caretaking post op #super considerate and in tune with ichi's needs #saki would be super hyped and energetic and would definitely be 10x more emotional about it than ichika #but ultimately saki is a very happy presence and helps cheer ichi up #and shiho would be calm about it but internally freaking out both from excitement for ichi and worry #shii would also be the voice of reason #like whenever ichika has any doubts shiho is right there to logic their way through it #confluence.txt #for leo/need

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true-blue-sonic · 10 months

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I think the difference between Silver rival battling Sonic and trying to kill him is that in a friendly rival fight Silver will just race and throw things at Sonic but if he's actually trying to kill him he'll psi-grab Sonic himself and lay into him with his full arsenal of powers.

That checks out; Silver seems to strongly value fairness, but in Generations also says that the rematch with Sonic will be fun. It wouldn't be very fun if Sonic immediately got yoinked off the ground and flung right into space! Thus Silver keeps it to hurling the occasional item and doing funky things like smashing down crates and making battering rams with lots of rubble around. I think Sonic, though I doubt he would ever try to kill Silver, would also similarly 'limit' himself to stretch out the battle a bit longer. Both of them enjoy the thrill of it all and the fact it's enjoyable, so neither of them might want it to end too quickly.

In '06's battle against Sonic, Silver used the same Yeeting Stuff tactic, but since you can beat the fight in a very short amount of time, I like to think that in a real battle to the death he indeed just flings so much stuff at Sonic in one go that the latter gets defeated nigh-immediately. Sonic is incredibly hardy, but there's only so many cars to the face he can take, I would say!

#I wonder if Silver would be able to grab Sonic easily since he is so fast #maybe it's easier to throw stuff at the spot Silver expects Sonic to be in the amount of time it takes for said thrown stuff to reach that?#but that would probably mean he's got an AMAZING sense of coordination or whatever the heck it's called #or maybe his ESP powers could help out here?? it's an interesting thought!#silver the hedgehog #sonic the hedgehog #Silver the OP boi strikes again <3

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demonsfate · 1 year

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you said that jin is one dimensional because he only represents the struggle of not becoming your family. then you said kazuya is not one dimensional because he only represents using power to take back what's yours. that doesn't seem fair.

#✏️ - ᴛʜᴇ ʜᴏsᴛ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏsᴛ // (ooc)#// i pointed out what makes jin so fascinating is that his story is very powerful #// with the not wanting to go down the same lane as your Horrible Family #// and be better - to feel like you're not represented by the sins of your father #// but then they said.... they said that's what makes jin 1d bc that's all he represents #// and proceeds to tell me they like kaz so much because of HIS one goal like......#// WITHOUT telling me ANYTHING else they like about kaz's character #// characters .... characters GOALS isn't what gives them dimensions #// yes it helps - but dimensions are in terms of...#// their personality/writing #// what makes them feel HUMAN #// so of course i replied with other things i like about jin and what makes him feel real and what makes him stand out but #// DFJGNDJF STILL...#// HOW C AN YOU SAY ONE CHARACTER IS DIMENSIONAL BECAUSE THEY REPESENT ONE THING #// BUT THEN SAY ANOTHER CHARACTER ISN'T BECAUSE THEY REPRESENT ANOTHER THING #// both characters are amazing or rly bad depending on how they're written #// i'm just defending My Baby #// YES I MENTIONED HEIHACHI BEFORE AS THEY MENTIONED THAT'S THEIR SEC FAV CHARACTER -#// BUT WE'VE GOTTEN INTO THE ARGUMENT OF KAZ AND JIN #// BC THE OP WAS THEM SAYING THEY WANTED KAZ TO WIN BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T LIKE JIN FOR BEING 1D

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origami10 · 2 years

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Luffy really said Hold my flower

#I looked up the meme and apparently One Piece fan art helped to popularize it in the first place #hold my flower #One Piece #memes #also the part where she remembers when Luffy said Don’t touch my treasure (his hat)#OP has some really amazing callbacks like that #great writing

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nonrebreather · 11 months

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when i was post op after top surgery i had a good friend there with me to help recover. but the nurse didnt get the memo and when i woke up she was like “ok i’m gonna go get your girlfriend and bring her in to see you!” and i remember being so zonked on anesthesia and so disoriented i just laid there thinking wow…… all that an they’re bringing me a girlfriend too this place is amazing

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petitexmagician · 2 months

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"Liam's gonna kill you dude."

"HOW WAS I SUPPOSE TO KNOW IT WAS A STING!?"

#golden heart sumeru thief // ethan pride #nothing like helping in a undercover op in busting some fontaine liyue treasure hoarder relationship gone wrong #its amazing how Navia's crew has a crazy good rep even for a bunch that isn't even in Fontaine

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glooomtownbrats · 9 months

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i was listening to car radio and i cried 😭

#this song means so much to me #even if yall want to hate on top #it fits just as perfectly as it did ten years ago #that's why when i saw top something inside of me #that 15 year old self...#something healed #and now this song makes much sense as i'm probably tylers age when he wrote it #and hella depressed #just like ten years ago lol #also i was driving and it was raining so that didn't help #also i meant when i saw them live #they are the best band performance i've ever seen live #fucking amazing #op

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dr-spencer-reids-queen · 6 months

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A Rarity

Pairing: Spencer Reid x Female!Reader

Word Count: ~900

Warnings: fluff

Summary: You have a rare genetic code called heterochromia. You have two different colored eyes that you have tried to suppress ever since you got seriously bullied in middle school. Just when you're about to present a case, you find your contact case is missing.

Square Filled: friends with benefits (2022) for @spencerreidbingo

Author’s Note: any and all comments are appreciated <3

Today is the day you start your new job as the team’s liaison. You’ve always been part of this since JJ was the main person to deal with it. However, she’s been promoted to profiler which means all the slack now falls on your shoulders. You love interacting with families and comforting them when they most need it.

This is the first case when it’s just going to be you, so you’re kind of nervous about it. Before going into the briefing room, you decide to touch up on your makeup and hair as if you’re going in front of millions on the TV to present the case. You take out your contacts and leave them to rehydrate on your desk while you go to the bathroom to fix your makeup.

Once you’re done, you make sure not to look into anyone’s eyes as you make your way back to your desk. The first thing you do is put away your makeup. The second thing you do is grab your contacts to put them back in but they’re not where you left them.

“Shit,” you curse and go through your entire desk. “No, this isn’t happening.”

You’re panicking at the thought of not having your contacts. You don’t need them to see, in fact, you have 20/20 vision. No, you use them only for color because you have a rare thing called heterochromia. Your right eye is bright blue and your left is bright green. You were born with two different eye colors. No one in your family has this genetic but you, so you have no idea where it came from.

Ever since you were enrolled in school, you were bullied for your eyes. It didn’t start getting bad until middle school when kids were more focused on appearances than learning and making friends. Kids in elementary school actually found them to be cool but only because they were little kids who didn’t know any better.

Your peers made you hate this part of you even though you can’t do anything about it. As soon as you started high school, you begged your mom to get you colored contacts. You’ve been wearing them ever since even into your adult years. You choose a natural blue to make yourself look more normal. Had you not had those, you would for sure get bullied even worse than in middle school.

The longer you went wearing them the more people thought your eyes were just one color. No one at work knows about this or so you thought. The only person who might know about this is Spencer but that’s only because you two have been friends with benefits for quite some time now. It helps to have one to work off the stress from work. Plus, he’s an amazing lover so there’s a plus.

You two aren’t dating just fucking a lot.

While he was getting ready this morning at your place, you were in the bathroom rushing to do your makeup. You hadn’t put your contacts in just yet so if he were to walk in the bathroom, he’d see your eyes for what they truly are. He was getting ready and peeked through the open door to see if you were close to being done when he saw the beauty in your eyes. He didn’t say anything about it so as not to embarrass you.

He walks into the bullpen from the break room to see you panicking.

“What’s wrong?” he asks.

“Where are my contacts? I just had them on my desk.”

“I didn’t know you wore contacts,” he lied. You refuse to look at him without them in. “I’m sure it’ll be alright. You have glasses, right?”

“Yes, but--”

“But what? What’s the problem?”

“Never mind,” you groan and continue looking for them.

“Hey, look at me.” When you don’t, he sets his coffee down on the desk and grabs your chin gently. He makes you look at him but you close your eyes so he doesn’t see their colors. “Open your eyes.”

“No,” you shake your head.

“Darling, open your eyes,” he says gently.

He would be the person to find out eventually. You sigh and open your eyes to show him the rarity you have. Now that he gets to see them up close, he’s falling more in love with you. You might not have feelings for him but he certainly has them for you. He only keeps you as a fuck buddy because if he were to tell you the truth, he might lose you.

“What beautiful eyes you have.”

“They’re ugly,” you sigh and pull away from him.

“Who told you that?”

“Everyone I’ve ever known,” you scoff. You look at your watch and notice the time. “Shit, I have to give the case out.”

“No one is going to notice.”

“Are you kidding me? They’re so bright. They stand out.”

“Fine, if they make comments, I’ll handle it.”

You have no choice but to go in there without your contacts. You sigh and grab your things before heading to the briefing room with Spencer. Everyone is already in there waiting so you immediately get started. As you’re talking, you notice Spencer watching you with a smile on his face.

“You’re beautiful,” he mouths to you.

Your cheeks heat up but you don’t let it show how happy he makes you. The briefing only lasts thirty minutes before Hotch announces wheels up. When everyone is packing up to get out of there, you notice something sticking out of Spencer’s back pocket.

Your contact case. You want to be mad at him for taking it but maybe it’s time to let your rarity shine.

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