#I mean I love Aziraphale too

[ingravinoveritas]

So what ur thoughts on the bafias nominations David been nomination for best comedy actor while Michael hasn't been nominated for anything and the fan on twitter can't understand why now I personally think after Al aggressive behaviour on a post when they got his name wrong on his favourite radio station and how her stories on ig recently just werid behaviour do u think Al may had sabotaged his chances of getting a nomination for anything

What ur thoughts

Hi there! So I am once again on the road and attending a conference in Las Vegas that just wrapped up, and now I finally have a chance to comment on today's exciting news.

I'm sure everyone has seen by now, but congrats to our lovely David on his first (main) BAFTA nom for Male Performance in a Comedy!

It seems almost surreal that David has never been nominated for a (main) BAFTA before now, and given the breadth of his other recent TV performances (Des, Litvinenko) nominating him for Good Omens season 2 is certainly a choice...especially in the absence of a nomination for Michael. Looking at the list of nominations, it appears that Best Interests was nominated for Limited Drama, as was Sharon Horgan for Leading Actress...but no nomination for Michael for Leading Actor, either. So very quickly, this starts to look like a visible and intentional snub.

In terms of why Michael would be snubbed, I think there are a few possible reasons, but none of them have anything to do with AL. Readers of my blog know that I am never hesitant to call Anna out when it is merited, but in all likelihood the BAFTA nominations were decided long before now, and in my opinion she would not have any influence on whether Michael is nominated regardless of when her social media posts were made. So it does not make sense to place blame on her in this instance.

My feeling is that the reasons for Michael's lack of a nomination (and really, David's nomination specifically for GO) are likely twofold. One is that I'm guessing Amazon/whoever submitted David for consideration didn't want to pit Michael and David against each other. If they were both competing in the same category, it could split the votes, so only nominating one of them seems the best way of avoiding that. The second reason (again, in my opinion) seems to be political.

I was surprised to recently learn that Prince William is the president of BAFTA--British followers, help me out here, because this is very, very weird to a confused American--and as we know, Michael has spoken out on a number of hot button issues over the last few months: Opening a conversation about Welsh independence. The question of the devolution of the crown estate to Wales. And of course, abolishing the title of Prince of Wales. Not to mention all of the backlash incurred by the release of The Way, which was roundly savaged in the press and accused of promoting anti-English sentiments.

Granted, there have been politically active nominees and winners at the BAFTAs in the past, but it really feels like the combination of all these things is somehow working against Michael. Let's also not forget this epic picture from the BAFTA film awards last month, with Michael giving Wills the side-eyest of Welsh side-eyes:

All this said, it is difficult (if not impossible) to think of Michael and David's performances in GO as separate things, because they are so inextricably intertwined. The reason that we got David's incredible performance as Crowley is because Michael was there as Aziraphale, and vice-versa. I think David and Michael themselves would be the first ones to say it, as well as to be in awe and so supportive of each other's acting. The response of fans to this nomination news--saying Michael is a better actor, Michael deserved to be nominated instead, etc.--is so perplexing to me, because I think he was probably the first one in line to congratulate David, and would chew out anybody who put down David's acting for any reason.

I also think that if the lack of a nomination is due to the above-mentioned political reasons, then Michael is probably wearing it like a fucking badge of honor. I think he is also happier for David than anyone else on the planet right now (because that's his boyfriend, damn it), and I truly hope the stars align and give us Michael presenting David with an award again like at the NTAs in 2021. (Michael subsequently carrying David off the stage bridal style would be the cherry on top of the already extremely homoerotic cake.)

I also feel that there is no question David is as taken aback by his nomination/Michael's lack of a nomination for GO as much as the rest of us are. While I have no idea what David's chances of winning truly are, I think he would wholeheartedly and enthusiastically share that award with Michael. And I think he will share that night with Michael no matter what, regardless of what happens on the broadcast.

So many possibilities come to mind, really. I can imagine David and Michael re-enacting Every (without the heartbreaking bits, of course) on stage. I've seen people making references to the infamous Slow Show fic/how it parallels to real life, and while I've only read part of it (haven't gotten to finish), the thought of any kiss between Michael and David is beyond gorgeous to contemplate. Not for the sake of "content" or as a joke, of course (because I don't think they would be willing to kiss as a joke, because if they were, they would've done it by now), but because we would see a facet to Michael and David's relationship that's always been there in private become public. And it would be their choice to share it with us.

Those are my reactions to the BAFTAs announcement today. I'd love to hear from my followers as well with your thoughts and comments. Thanks for writing in! x

#angel19924 #reply post #michael sheen #welsh seduction machine #david tennant #soft scottish hipster gigolo #good omens 2 #BAFTAs 2024 #someone please explain to me why being a Royal means William somehow knows anything about the arts or movies or TV #because i am befuddled #also i like to think Michael came running over to David's once the nominations were announced #after which an hour-long snogging and cuddling session commenced #and they were neighbors #there is no Crowley without Aziraphale #or vice versa #and I think Michael and David both know that #but love each other too much to hold grudges #ineffable lovers #thoughts #discourse

[skyedom]

Welp, here’s the final piece:

Poll

#one of the few pieces I made that I actually want to print out!!! #THIS IS TOO BEAUTIFUL!!! #I love it so much! I wish I can just print it out frame it and hang it on a wall!! #*cries in a corner* #Again thank you all for participating in the post and patiently witnessing the artist in me being a perfectionist. #and by all I mean the 37 people who participated in the poll and a couple others who followed me. #good omens #good omens fanart #aziraphale #aziraphale fanart #angel wings #angel art #pretty wings #procreate #my art

[vulpinesaint]

my thesis statement will of course always be that the angels + demons in good omens are aspec (and nonbinary) but crowley specifically was so aromantic this season. man who goes "oh, romance? yeah, i know how that works. practically an expert. i've picked up so much from the way that people talk about it and represent it in media. i know all the perfect steps to execute romance. it has nothing to do with personhood and feelings; there's a certain list of requirements, certain steps that you take, certain subjective prerequisites to be fulfilled, and then you'll have romance. easy. simple." when he has no idea how romance actually works because it's never been something that was accessible or valuable to him. the general conventions for love seem so simple from the outside when you pick up an idea of it through cultural osmosis but not any real experience or investment in the idea. maggie and nina come in to tell him that he can't be messing with people's love lives because it's serious and personal but how should he know? when you're outside of it and don't even realize that you're outside of it, romance is just a thing that happens. and it seems so simple...

#screaming wailing throwing things punching walls that's aro representation actually #when i say the angels and demons are all aspec and nonbinary. i of course mean That in a sense of like. #they don't align with any of our constructions of sexuality or gender because they're not built with the same inner workings #but by our definitions they're closer to those concepts than to 'conventional' conceptions of gender and sexuality #anyway crowley is so me walking into my middle school classes on the first day of school and picking out a suitable crush for the year #based on effusive criteria that i picked up from media and popular culture and the expectation that i Should have a crush #because those were the steps you took. at least it seemed like that to me. #this applies to aziraphale too of course #when all the romance you've known or seen takes place under awnings in the rain or at jane austen balls. of course it stands to reason #that the same would be true of any love in real life. cause how else would it work #anyway that kiss was so aromantic it's crazy #good omens #good omens 2 #aromantic #aro #crowley

[puppylovegirl]

saw the best aziracrow cosplay at the renn fair today like from the back you genuinely could not tell it was a cosplay and like??? it was so nice just seeing them walking around the fair holding hands like they’re allowed to just be happy like that?????

#good omens #ineffable husbands #aziraphale #crowley #michael sheen #david tennet #azicrow #they were so nice too #like we talked to them a couple times #by that i mean we talked to aziraphale #crowley didn’t open his mouth #but aziraphale was an irl angel istg #if y’all see this you were lovely great meeting you

[mothmans-cumrag]

I don't know if I have it in me to grieve for both my middle aged blorbos with dark and brooding aesthetics who took a big chance by kissing their friend with whom they have been in love since they met only to be left heartbroken ten seconds later

#good omens #our flag means death #good omens spoilers #good omens season two spoilers #honestly this is too much #i love stede and aziraphale but wtf guys #how dare you do this to me i mean them #lee posts

[bullagit]

it's just. it's just

if your take on aziraphale at the end of the day is that he is, ultimately, a wholly selfish person. that his relationship to crowley is him taking and accepting and asking for more from a partner who, lovesick and waiflike and unable to draw a line, continues to carve off of himself to supplicate, while aziraphale does not "for once" contribute back.

then honestly i think you missed a step somewhere. and i'll preface by saying no shade on that front because it would be a boring thing if everyone everywhere had the same idea about every character, but this particular read on aziraphale chafes me.

because coming at things from his angle i think the larger issue is that he's selfless.

not in a cutesy job interview "my only flaw is i care too much :)" way, not in the sort of way that negates selfishness entirely (because like ALL of the characters in good omens, he IS still selfish!).

but i think aziraphale is selfless in a terrible and passive sort of way. i think he does not love himself and he does not think that he's someone who is easy to love, and i think that like crowley, aziraphale believes that when it comes to himself, love is conditional. it must be. when he receives it straightforwardly, seemingly unconditionally, he balks, because to his mind he's never done anything to deserve it.

i think he's been taught that, when he's himself, he's somehow wrong. i think if he's the only one on the line, he wouldn't choose his own happiness over something he feels he has to do. and if he feels that something is right, truly fully right, and that it needs doing, and that he can do it, he'll always ultimately throw himself onto that proverbial sword.

he'll run higher and higher up the celestial ladder trying to save earth (and crowley) and when that gets him nowhere, he'll decry the entire war and throw himself down to earth to try to stop it anyway. he'll stand at the edge of the end with actual satan bearing down upon them and pick up his old sword and say we can't give up now. he'll hand the most important person in the universe their destruction in a tartan thermos and feel like the most wretched miserable creature in existence for doing it.

he'll love someone in a way he's never loved anything and make himself be the one who keeps the rehearsed distance, the walls of plausible deniability and loopholes and convenient coincidences, because the distance is the most concrete way to keep that person safe. (because that was always one of the first points he'd hit with crowley: if hell finds out, they'll destroy you.) i think he operates out of fear before nearly anything else.

i think that for all that aziraphale indulges in his material pleasures-- the books and souvenirs and drinks and food-- he's starved and repressed and made himself very carefully wall off the pieces of his heart that want only to love wholly and to be loved in return. especially where crowley is concerned.

and honestly i'm not even going to get into their relationship dynamics bc that's so much to get into that's like a separate issue separate post. except to say that just because aziraphale doesn't do the exact same things for crowley that crowley has for him, it doesn't mean that this relationship is not reciprocal. (my wording struggles here because in general the point is not to gain returns, crowley doesn't do things for aziraphale because he expects to get something out of it. he does things because he loves him and he's big acts of service energy)

and tbh i feel like if crowley saw or caught wind of any of this "aziraphale should sacrifice for crowley ~for once~ protect crowley ~for once~" rhetoric he'd be pretty fucking offended

if any of that even makes sense idk

#good omens #good omens 2 #aziraphale #crowley #ineffable husbands #spoilers #good omens spoilers #go2 spoilers #yk there are a lot of reasons 'you go too fast for me crowley' is painful #its painful for aziraphale too #like. he just handed crowley his own destruction bc it was safer than crowley trying to get it through other means #he just gave him what he thought was a suicide pill; like of course he wasn't ready to go have a hang and some drinks #he's sitting in that car nearly crying the whole scene he loves crowley so fucking much and he's so terrified for him all the time #i will never deny that aziraphale is so flawed and so frequently ruled by his own trauma; he messes up a lot he's hurtful to crowley a lot #but it's so night and day between fanon and canon #when ultimately what he wants more than anything in the universe is to just. be with crowley SAFELY for ONCE

[thesherrinfordfacility]

I mean this in a gen way, but saying Crowley avoids responsibility feels incredibly unfair, bc as far as I can recall, of the two he's actually the only one who has ever apologized for anything?

hi anon!!!✨ more than happy to explain (as best i can, anyway) where im coming from on this!!!✨

so to my recollection, crowley has essentially said he's sorry twice in show canon; s1, when he tries again to get aziraphale to leg it with him, and s2, with the dance. however, imo, i think it's questionable as to how much he means either of these.

s1 apology to me is worded in such a way that, at worst crowley is purposefully inauthentic in his apology, and at best, just simply doesn't know what he's apologising for - but in both cases just wants to get aziraphale on side so they can escape the apocalypse by fleeing to alpha centauri:

the key part here for me is, "whatever i said, i didn't mean it...", because to me that feels an awful lot along the lines of 'im sorry you feel that way', rather than accepting responsibility that what one may have said may have caused the upset.

now look, i realise crowley is under a lot of pressure in this scene - he's come straight from being directly threatened by hastur, and that makes the rushed, poorly worded apology understandable - but id personally argue that, regardless, it's not a genuine apology. the argument itself isn't brought up again, it isn't discussed, and it isn't resolved. (once again, the plot doesn't really allow for a heart-to-heart to occur, but i doubt it was ever addressed in the interim between s1 and s2. that being said, i can only go based on what we're actually shown, as opposed to any supposition of what did or did not happen/was or was not discussed in the missing four years!)

as for the apology dance; i think it's fair to summarise that crowley walks off, out of the bookshop, believing that he's fully in the right. he might later regret how the whole argument went down, but with the context of gabriel's words from s1 in mind, it's fair that crowley would consider that he doesn't have anything to apologise for. arguably, neither of them have anything to apologise for (from aziraphale's perspective, he's also in the right - essentially, the argument isn't as black and white as that!), but when crowley then learns of the BOL threat, it's then that he comes back to the bookshop.

again, look - im perfectly prepared to accept this entire exchange, the wording within it, as one big shared idiosyncrasy, and one that works for them. but there's a couple of things that make this not quite ring true to me.

the way crowley says the first line, offering an apology, suggests that if he were to say sorry, he wouldn't mean it. says it in a way that's very guarded, but also seems snooty and lofty, like he's above the act - and that it would be a reluctantly-given gesture

when aziraphale states that that's in fact what he wants, an apology, crowley doesn't actually say sorry. he admits that aziraphale was right - but that doesn't take accountability for his part in the spat, and even then he says it again like it pains him to say the words

there was a marvellous meta (by @esthermitchell-author!!!) that summed it up, that i'll link back when i get my hands on it, but the way that aziraphale says 'with the little dance' suggest that the dance is additional to an actual apology, that they're not one and the same. now, i personally see the dance's meaning a little differently - maybe? - that the dance is the thing to break the tension (ridiculous concept altogether but that's another post). in that context, crowley only does the dance, not the apology. that being said, aziraphale seems to accept the dance as the apology, so maybe that's that and nothing more to be said

ive said it before, but the way aziraphale rattles off the years where he's done it, and crowley immediately says that he 'doesnt do the dance', suggest to me - and pure speculation here, admittedly - that aziraphale has historically been the one to always apologise. we could see this as aziraphale having always been the one that's in the wrong... but i somehow doubt that to be the case. instead, it seems to be that aziraphale is pissed that he's always been the one to bend, to apologise, to keep the peace, to break the tension, and this time crowley can 'bloody well do it'. the way aziraphale performatively straightens his clothes and cocks his head suggests that crowley doing the dance is a novelty, and he's going to savour it... but i digress-

all of this to me feels that crowley, again, is dancing around accepting any accountability or responsibility for his part in the argument, and therefore the apology - if we conclude that aziraphale does accept the dance itself as an apology - isn't completely meant. take into account the context of why crowley flies back to the bookshop, it can also be seen that crowley will do whatever he needs to ensure that he can help aziraphale shelter/hide gabriel, and therefore protect aziraphale in the process; a means to an end, essentially.

(now of course anon, if there is an apology ive missed or something i haven't taken into account, please come back to me - these are just the two instances that i can recall off the top of my head, and my personal interpretation of them!!! but im always open to thinking about things differently).

there are also other instances where he's... rather poor at accepting his own accountability, but tbh it's LWA that's analysed and summarised this better than i ever could, so definitely worth having a root around in those asks too, for some extra reading!!! (link in my masterpost)✨

#good omens #ask #crowley meta #s1 meta #s2 meta #edit: ive only just realised that ive focused on crowley here which is pretty biased (gen didnt mean to oops) but happy to address #aziraphale thoughts re: accountability if needed!!! #further edit now that i found the link to the meta i was referencing: i love the take in it!!! maybe mine is a little bad faith - #and ill accept that - but the alternative that the op puts forward is heartbreaking and i also see it this way too!!!! really great reading

[gray-omens]

Crowley and Aziraphale "it's a sin for us to be in love but we're risking it anyway" vs "it was never a sin to be in love but we're discovering it too late" angst WHO WILL WIN

#I know they're immortal by “too late” I really mean they've lost so much time and that's sad #know what's ALSO sad? never being allowed to be in love #I will take number 2 with a side of “now we're not wasting another second” please #good omens #ineffable husbands #aziracrow #aziraphale #crowley #ineffable idiots #good omens headcanons

[fandomsmeantheworldtome]

Expose Your Fictional Crushes (x)

Share 9 of your fictional crushes and let everyone guess your type!

Tagged by the lovely @feralgodmothers thank you hun❤️

Tagging @stedescozynook @eames-with-a-rose @neverswungonswingingstars @sherlockig @blakbonnet @merryandrewsworld @slutaciouslestat @mandycantdecide @quinninthenorth @funforahermit @vonlipwig @its-all-ineffable @stedetheestallion @stelijahsalvatore @bayoubodycount @ailendolin @nicoleanell @dracfields @hesawifebeaterdanusethegun @ninjathrowingstork @fangirl-saya @renfieldxz @snailsokay @coiled-dragon @pinkiepiebones @knightinpinkunderwear @misschangeable @warmbrainsalad @ramblingsofachristiannerd @starleska @ineffable-user-name and everyone else who is interested

#it was hard for me to choose only 9 because i love so many 😂 #also i wanted to have in this list Lestat Peter iii Elder Vex and Murray Hewitt too #but decided to add only one character played by the same actor #from left to right: #Renfield from the Renfield movie 2023 #Aziraphale from the series Good Omens #Stede Bonnet from the series Our Flag Means Death #Dale Jennings from the series The Newsreader #Louis Du Pointe Du Lac from the amc series Interview With The Vampire #Colin Robinson from the series What We Do In The Shadows #The Captain from the bbc series Ghosts #and my oldest crushes Dirk Gently from the series Dirk Gently Holistic Detective Agency and Edward Nygma from the series Gotham

[a-bisexual-panicking]

I am not only convinced that Crowley listens to LP (the singer), but I also have this very specific image of him fully drunk with Other People at max volume screaming angrily the words of the chorus to the sky (specifically heaven) (specifically Aziraphale)

#i mean “you broke the spell and wanted something else/well now go fuck yourself with other people” #he would definitely yell that to Azi #but he's not going to be angry at him for much longer #he loves his angel too much #good omens #good omens season 2 #good omens memes #crowley #aziraphale #ineffable husbands #ineffable divorce #lp #other people #music

[mars-ipan]

gotta say i've been in quite a few fandoms but i don't think any of them are quite as unabashedly queer as the gomens fandom is. it's very comfy here

#marzi speaks #i mean it's bound to happen when the show's like the queerest love story of the fucking generation #but in a lot of fandoms i see a lot of like. arguing over tiny inconsequential things or a fear of being too weird #but here? none of that. #no fighting over what labels anyone would use because they aren't human! they don't need human labels! #nobody is weird about aziraphale being fat. he is drawn fat he is written fat and he is lusted after by a solid chunk of the fandom for it #people fuck around with pronouns for the characters all the time bc they can. that makes me happy #the fanfic is all so so queer. down to the kinks #no bullshit top/bottom discourse either. everyone just seems to live and let live #idk it's just very. refreshing #i've spent a lot of time in fandoms where arguing and queerbait (cough cough ACE ATTORNEY coughcoughcough) occur #and while i can handle that and have even learned to find it funny #it's. very nice. to see a space that focuses less on exactly how these two fictional characters are queer and are they Gay or Bisexual #or Do Not Sully My Cinnamon Roll Character With Your Smut They Would Never (note: they would) #but instead just. focusing on being queer #it makes me very very very happy

[ronithesnail]

Girl help why is top/bottom discourse so big on twitter rn holy shit

#imean- #personally i love top aziraphale #but like bottom is also cool like whats the big deal?? #i saw that thing from that chinese fan and imean i see a lot of their points and thats why that kind if fancontent isnt really my favorite #and i get what their trying to say and i think with things like this its interesting to see how cultural influences+social norms play into i #but like #its not that big of a deallll #its not the moral sin you think it is its just a different kind of content just calm down please #and now everyones all worked up about and iguess by even writing my thoughts here im contributing to that but… man… #i literally follow some of the chinese bottom!az x top!crowley creators theyre talking about #i know exactly what they mean when they’re complaining about that stuff i notice it too #but its not a bad thing? like yeah its not my favorite personally but like?? its just fanart??? and to some people its their favorite thing #this isnt a moral issue who do you think you are #good omens #aziracrow #ineffable husbands #aziraphale #crowley #aziraphale x crowley #crowley x aziraphale

[sunderwight]

what if the other thing that happened in 1941 (that we haven't seen yet) wasn't a kiss though

what if Crowley actually offered an "I love you" and Aziraphale panicked and botched the response

what if one of the reasons Aziraphale was so primed to say "I love you" back to Gabriel in 2023 is because he's been waiting for a do-over on that one and has been telling himself for years that next time someone says that to him, he'll say it back

#good omens #aziracrow #ineffable husbands #i mean i'm not sure if this is LIKELY in canon or anything #crowley trying to muster up a confession is obviously difficult for him #but then again a kiss would be too #plus an 'i love you' can come out accidentally if you talk enough and are maybe a bit drunk and giddy off of recent success #accidental kiss not so much #on the other hand a kiss is something he can tell himself is crowley trying to tempt him into pleasures of the flesh #a confession not so much #the angst potential though #aziraphale just itching for crowley to say it again so that he can reciprocate this time #playing it over and over in his mind how he'll get it right and say it back and it will be just perfect #except crowley is not planning on saying it again until aziraphale does because he's trying not to go too fast #(and also maybe because his rather tender heart can't take another rejection)

[anteakwa]

“aziraphale’s coffee was drugged” “aziraphale turns around before going to heaven” how about aziraphale grows as a character. aziraphale learns from the consequences of his mistakes. aziraphale changes his flawed view of the world and crowley

#if i see one more person say that the ending of s2 was out of character for him i’m gonna lose it #i love aziraphale. you can love aziraphale and accept that he is an extremely flawed character #did u miss every other time he said that hell as a whole was bad and his implications that crowley was too nice to be a demon #did u miss him trying to get crowley to do his dirty work to maintain the “purity” of heaven #did u miss him repeatedly not listening to crowley when it didn’t benefit him #i get being sad and having these alternate outcomes to cope but let’s not pretend that what aziraphale did wasn’t entirely in character #and i mean that very nicely i love aziraphale but he needs to work out his multitude of issues #let him work it out #good omens spoilers

[rollforjackass]

like on a couple levels, in terms of the metatron having bad intentions, the coffee theory has something to it. BUT NOT BECAUSE AZIRAPHALE'S BEEN POISONED/MAGICALLY MANIPULATED/REPLACED, OKAY. here's the breakdown of the major points imo:

aziraphale doesn't drink coffee, why would the metatron bring him coffee & why would he drink it?

because the metatron doesn't fucking care what aziraphale wants or likes. it's just that simple. he came to the bookshop to make an offer, and to get that offer accepted. he brought the coffee to prove that he means well, that his intentions are good, and that aziraphale is worth a gesture of generosity from the voice of the almighty. he wants aziraphale to feel appreciated, but he doesn't give a shit enough to bring something aziraphale would actually like, and he didn't stop badgering until aziraphale accepted it in a way that could not be taken back, i.e. drinking it. if aziraphale has taken a sip, then he's already accepted that he will hear the metatron out. it's pure lip service and manipulation.

2. the time jump between aziraphale very clearly saying "i don't want to go back to heaven" and "tell your friend the good news". why would the metatron be so sure he changed his mind in that time?

my theory is that the metatron's proposal to reinstate crowley as an angel was double-sided, and we only saw the first half of the proposal. my theory is that the offer was actually "we can bring crowley back as an angel with you, or we'll have to scrub him from the book of life completely so we don't risk you pulling a gabriel." i mean, it makes sense, right? heaven just lost their number one guy to his attachment to a demon he's spent 6000 years arguing with, why chance it a second time? the metatron wants aziraphale to accept that offer because heaven is in shambles, and he knows it won't be accepted if things are left as they currently are on earth, with aziraphale able to simply say "nah" and come back home anytime. an ultimatum like that is the only way to fly.

it's also a no-loss scenario, because you can bank on aziraphale, as someone who cares about crowley and who wouldn't ever want to threaten him into doing something he doesn't want to do, only wanting to tell crowley the first part. he wasn't there for the hellfire, remember? he might not even think it's a genuine threat, not worth repeating, especially if he's confident that crowley would choose to go with him rather than be separated. my theory is that aziraphale was trying to protect crowley by going balls-to-the-wall company man, and that his "i need you" was especially motivated by terror at the thought of losing him, terror that became more and more real as he started to lose confidence in his ability to convince crowley to be an angel again. (as a lot of folks who grew up in very manipulative households could tell you, me included, you can teach yourself to dismiss the severity of a threat from someone you believe loves you while also emotionally reacting to it.)

3. that smile in the elevator during the credits was NOT an aziraphale smile like ANY of the smiles we've seen from him before. not painfully polite, not genuinely joyful, in fact it was downright sinister.

i think that if we go with the theory that the metatron threatened crowley to get aziraphale to agree to come back, aziraphale won't let that shit stand. especially seeing how badly crowley reacted to the idea of becoming an angel again? to aziraphale going back? especially after that kiss?

if he's going up there to make heaven worthy of crowley, to make things better, then that means doing something about the people like uriel who relish the thought of turning innocent people into pillars of salt. the people like michael who hypocritically consort with demons and place their position on the corporate ladder above all else. the people like the metatron, who have access to the book of life and full willingness to use it. i think that's a smile that means aziraphale is about to start a war of his own, and make everything up to crowley as best he can by ensuring that crowley will never have to fear for his own existence again.

(of course, whether that's what crowley would want is something we already know the answer to. crowley wants aziraphale. danger and all.)

#obviously this is all throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks #and i LOVE how creative some folks have been (the CYANIDE THEORY w/ the doses of almond being changed is fucking BRILLIANT) #but i do think this is a bad choice born of an existence of manipulation and good intentions #and i do think it would make sense for aziraphale to be holding back the fact that heaven is Threatening crowley #if he's gonna try to convince crowley to Come Back to the place threatening him #(even if it also means crowley can't see that aziraphale's reasons are all because he loves crowley too) #anyway we have like 3 years so all theories are valid and i'm enjoying reading every single one of them #sobbing into my mug of cocoa as i am #good omens spoilers #go2 spoilers #coffee theory #good omens speculation #good omens #aziraphale

[lauras-happy-place]

Crowley calling Aziraphale his best friend in ep 5 made me literally cry...like with tears and all...

#feels a little like #queer baiting #but i still cant help but love this show #and their dynamics #opposites attract #plus they have a mutual goal #crowley x aziraphale #good omens #they aren't boringly good #or too evil #they're perfect #*ugly sobbing* #this isn't spoilers #right? #i mean im so late to this series