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#Literally google 'fujoshi'
olderthannetfic · 1 year
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Speaking of fetishization and all that jazz, recently the term fujoshi came up in real life for me and a friend asked me what it meant. For transparency I’m only 25, didn’t really fall into fandom until covid. Essentially I said it was a japanese term sometimes used in fandom so it depends who you ask. It could be 
Rotten women: this is the most technical translation and I’m pretty sure the actual word is a pun about rotten eggs or something. It means rotten as in spoiled, as in “spoiled for marriage” 
A derogatory term for women who are ruined for marriage because they like gay porn 
Women who likes gays porn 
Women who like BL/boy love. The male equivalent is fudanshi. BL is gay mlm romance genre for manga. GL is for girl love, but I think GL is less popular of a genre/not really a thing. I’m pretty sure the porn equivalent is yaoi for gay porn and yuri for lesbian porn(still talking about manga/anime) but I could be wrong. BL and yaoi might mean the same thing I’m not sure. The important part here is fujoshi is for women who like BL and fudanshi is for men who like BL. This is the most correct term unless someone is trying to use it as an insult. I’m pretty sure this is what comes up when you google it. 
Straight women who fetishizes gay men
Transphobic term for a trans man that actually just a “straight women who fetishes gay men” 
(me still talking to my friend) 
Now if you’re wondering why all this exists we need to go back to the early 2000s and I’m pretty sure 4chan. If I’m right, fujoshi already meant rotten women and was used to describe a woman who was ruined for marriage, but around this time it started being used specifically against women for liking gay porn/ BL manga. An intersection of misogyny and homophobia where women aren’t just ruined by jacking off, but even more ruined if they jack off to gay porn. Oh no the horror! How will women ever marry straight men if she masturbated to gay men? She is now ruined for straight men. I find this whole thing absurd, but honestly I forget that people “aren’t supposed to even masturbate” before marriage. Got to keep yourself completely pure I guess. Like I understand the concept of not having sex before marriage(even if I really don’t agree) because I grew up hearing that but the idea that you shouldn’t even masturbate or you’ll be ruined is so stupid to me it makes my brain short circuit. And of course it's misogynistic as all hell. At this time it's a Japanese term used in Japan against Japanese women and it's later reclaimed by Japanese women. Reclaimed as in “wait you guys can have porn and be horny but we can’t!? Well fuck you then I am rotten woman and you can go fuck yourself” At least thats what I think they mean when they say its a “reclaimed word” All I know is that its a misogynist term used against japanese women then reclaimed by said women. This is when “it just means women who like BL definition starts” 
Short time later it slowly but surely gets used in western fandom by people(mostly women) who ship mlm and by women who like BL and in the latter case it literally means that. This is when “it means a woman who fetishes gay men '' crops up Now I wasn't around at this time and there's a lot of mud throwing and shit when people talk about early tumblr and shipping culture. From what I can tell lots of time it was just used as an insult against people who shipped gay stuff, but there were women who would act gross towards gay men. My opinion is that is kinda like lesbian porn. I don’t give shit if someone like lesbian porn. I give a shit if someone is gross to me personally, like a guy wanting to watch me giss my friend, but its non of my business what kinda porn someone likes. What a weird thing to give a fuck about. And shipping isn’t even always porn! Lots of times its just porn, but lots of times its just about the most interesting relationship on screen which normally isn’t the romantic one. I have a whole theory that the most popular ships being between friendships not romantic leads is because romantic story lines aren’t great. Take zuko and katara vs aang and katara. Zuko and katara have a whole arc where they learn to trust each other and we see their relationship grow and change, but with aang and katara we mostly only watch them crushing on each other which is just not as interesting. 
I said more about how the term gets pretty transphobic and how fetishization is a good criticism lots of times but i’m pretty sure I’m out of words lol 
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腐女子 is a pun on 婦女子. They're both 'fujoshi'. The 'fu' character means 'rotten' or 'fermented' as in tofu: 豆腐.
English-speaking antis are just morons about language along with everything else and completely misrepresent this word.
Yeah, it was 2chan crying that girls liked something other than them and then women being like "Joke's on you: I'm proud of that".
(In general, insecure douchebags dislike their partners masturbating because they foolishly assume that if a partner has zero experience, they won't be measuring the douchebag against anything. In reality, you can tell if sex was bad without anything to compare it to.)
BL is a genre term for m/m stuff aimed at an assumed female audience. It tends towards romances, but that's not the definition AFAIK. I imagine that women who like gei komi probably also call themselves fujoshi, but the point of the 'fudanshi' term is to denote men who like the "for girls" stuff, not just gei komi.
Is GL used much? I usually see queer women using 'yuri' to talk about f/f manga.
You can drop that "porn equivalent" nonsense though. Aside from some English-language fanfic, there has not been a consistent terminology for softcore vs. hardcore. Both 'BL' and 'yuri' can cover the full spectrum of content.
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thestarsarecool · 7 months
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@fujoshi-simone-weil tagged me in a "things to get to know me" game! Fun, thank you! You have the best url on tumblr. Also, someone else tagged me in this game, like, a month ago and I kept meaning to do it (it was on my to-do list and everything!) but I forgot and now it has disappeared from my notifications. Also, I don't 100% remember who it was. But still, I wholeheartedly apologize to that person for neglecting their tag. I don't love you any less. Anyway, on with the show!
Last song I listened to: Answer Me from The Band's Visit. You can take the theater kid out of the theater but you can't take the theater out of the kid. Or maybe you can. I don't know. I am taking a class on songwriting for musical theater right now so I am listening to more musical theater than I have in a while, though not as much as I did in like 2019.
Favorite color: Purple!
Currently watching: Nothing really? I'm not much of a TV or movie person. I just finished watching the Fionna and Cake TV show which was surprisingly good. My siblings and I watched all of Adventure Time together a while back (we like to rewatch cartoons together), so we all facetimed to watch the finale, which was really nice. I'd missed them :)
Last movie I watched: Hmm. I don't remember. Let's think...nope, still don't remember. Sorry film nerds of tumblr.com. I wish I was as cool as you.
Currently reading: Psychoanalysis: The Impossible Profession by Janet Malcolm! It's a really fascinating look into the underlying contradictions of psychoanalysis and also a great overview of the history, but it's all done through an actually engaging character study! I think it was originally a lengthy piece in The New Yorker, published around 1980. Also, I just started The Tale of Two Cities, which is very fun because the only Dickens I have ever read before is Oliver Twist!
Sweet/Spicy/Savory: I want to say savory, but the answer is actually sweet. I put wayyyyyy too much sugar in my tea for me to be picking anything but sweet.
Last thing I googled: The last thing I googled was "Ray Donovan Music" and I will explain why because, yes, I know that that doesn't make any sense. So, I am finishing up work on this song I am writing and whenever I get to that "almost done" stage, I post to r/Songwriting to get feedback because it's fun and occasionally helpful. And someone in the comments said that my song sounds like if "the little girl from Moneyball and Ray Donovan had a brainchild with Regina Spector [sic]." Which, like, ok. Let's unpack that. The comparison to Regina Spektor is very kind. I have gotten that a few times, though I think Reddit just doesn't know any other women who write songs on the piano. The little girl from Moneyball is such a funny comparison to me. Like, she's not a songwriter? She's just Brad Pitt's fictional child. But like, sure, I get what they mean. I sing kind of light and talky sometimes which makes it sound childlike, I guess, like a Moe Tucker sort of thing. But Ray Donovan??? I literally do not know what this commenter is talking about. All I can find for who Ray Donovan is the guy from the TV show. Like, does TV criminal Ray Donovan write songs or something? Is my song particularly evocative of the Ray Donovan soundtrack? Did this commenter mash together Ray Davies and Donovan's names? I asked him who he is talking about, but received no reply. Someone save me from this hell. Who is Ray Donovan and why did he birth my song?
Current Obsession: Still The Beatles, I guess, though it's not nearly as debilitating as it was a year ago. Which is quite nice, actually! I can actually be productive now.
Current Thing I'm Working On: Well, I've just about finished up the aforementioned song! All it needs is a title. Also, I'm writing a paper on The Epic of Gilgamesh, which is fun. The guy who wrote my translation is a professor at my uni so I may go to his office hours to ask him about it!
Ok, I tag @torchlitinthedesert, @idontwanttospoiltheparty, @veidelon, @theallenklein, and @mydaroga. I know this one already made the rounds though (I think) so no need to do it if you already did it. Or, really, no need to do it at all.
Cheers, everyone!
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enigmalea · 1 year
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Why I Contributed to FujoGuide
If you follow me here or mastodon you may have noticed that I've been reblogging/boosting a lot of posts for something called The Fujoshi Guide to Web Development (@fujowebdev). There's a good chance you followed me or know me from the Dragon Age fandom where I run communities, events, and zines and write fanfic, and you might be wondering why the sudden and drastic departure from my normal content. Why would a writer contribute to something related to webdev? Why have you stopped seeing thirst for Dragon Age characters and started seeing… whatever a FujoGuide is?
The answers to those questions (and more!) are below the cut.
My Coding Journey
I wrote my first lines of code in 1996 (yes, I'm old AF). It was the early days of the internet and tutorials for how to make your own websites were literally everywhere. You couldn't go more than two clicks without finding a how-to written in plain language. But it was painstaking and tedious. CSS didn't exist yet (literally, I started coding about six months before it was released) and even when it appeared it wasn't widely adopted or supported.
It was the "glory days" of Geocities, Myspace themes, Neopets, and Livejournal. If there was a cool site, you could use HTML and/or CSS to customize it. I honed my skills by coding so many tables character profiles for RPs, creating themes, painstakingly laying out user info pages, and building my own site.
Gradually, things changed. Web 2.0 showed up with locked down profiles and feeds you couldn't customize, free website hosts became more difficult to find, and point and click page builders became the way of the web. Shortly after, I took a long break from fandom; frustrated and disappointed with site closures, lost communities, and general fandom wank… it felt like it just wasn't worth it anymore.
I eventually came back, and when I did it meant customizing themes, figuring out how to create tools for my communities, coding tumblr pages (and learning they're not really supported on mobile), and looking at automations for my common tasks. One day, I woke up and thought, "I'm going to make a Discord bot… it can't be that hard."
So, I did it.
An Unexpected Friendship
About a month after I launched my bot to the public, I received a random Discord message from @essential-randomness. A friend had told her about my bot, and she was working on BobaBoard which needed volunteers. I was shocked. First, people were talking about my bot. Second, I wasn't a real coder. I didn't know anything! I just googled a bunch of stuff and got something working. I had no idea what I was doing.
She assured me it was okay. She was willing to teach me what I didn't know - and most of all, that she wanted my help. I took a day or two to think it over, and fatefully filled out the volunteer form. I didn't know if I could be useful or how I could be useful, but I wanted to try.
Programming Is Awful
In the years months that followed, I spent a lot of time in @essential-randomness' DMs complaining about programming… at least once I realized she wouldn't judge me. I was still very much doing things the hard way, taking hours to update a site to add a single link on all the pages. I knew there were easier methods, but I either couldn't find them or once I found them, they were filled with dense jargon which was terrifying.
"An all-in-one zero-javascript frontend architecture framework!" Is that even English? "A headless open-source CMS." Cool. Sounds good. "A full-stack SSG based on Jamstack extending React and integrating Rust-based JS." Those sure are words. With meanings. That someone knows. Not me, though.
I spent so much time looking at what sites claimed was documentation and losing my mind because I had no idea where to even start most of the time. With @essential-randomness' encouragement, I kept at it, experimenting with new things, and jumping in headfirst even when I had no idea what I was doing. And I was so glad. Where I used to struggle keeping one website updated, last year I managed to deploy and update 7 websites. Yeah, you read that right. It was amazing.
The new stuff made it all much, much easier.
An Idea Is Born
Meanwhile, we spent hours discussing why it was difficult to get fandom to try coding. Part of the barrier was the belief you must be some sort of genius or know math or that creative/humanities people can't do it. It is also partially coding communities being unfriendly to newbies and hobbyists; a culture which often thrives on debasing people's choices, deriding them for not understanding, and shouting rtfm (read the fucking manual) and lmgtfy (let me google that for you)- all of which are unhelpful at best and humiliating and abusive at worst. The tech dudebro culture can be unforgiving and mean.
The number of coding-based Discords I've left far outnumbers the ones I've stayed in.
We determined what fandom needed was a place for coders of all skill levels to come together to help and support one another; where they could learn to code and how to join open-source projects they love, and where they could make friends and connections and show off their projects whether they were new or experienced programmers.
And thus… Fandom Coders was born.
What About FujoGuide?
Of course, running a coding group and working on BobaBoard together means we spent a lot of time talking about the state of the web. We both lamented over poor documentation, jargon-rich tutorials, and guides which assume a baseline of knowledge most people don't have. What we needed to do was provide tutorials which start at the beginning… from the ground up (what is a terminal and how do I open it?) without skipping steps. What we needed to do was make those tutorials fun and appealing.
I don't remember exactly the journey it took to get us here if I'm honest. I have no clue who said it first. But I do remember I first started thinking about anthropomorphizing programming languages when we attempted to cast the languages as the Ouran High School boys… and again when I suggested we do a [TOP SECRET IN CASE WE DO IT] group project in Fandom Coders to help people learn about programming.
What I do know is that as last year ended, @essential-randomness became laser-focused on creating our gijinka and moving forward with FujoGuide… and I couldn't say no.
Okay, But… Why Contribute?
To be honest, it's not just that I was around for the birth of the idea. It's ALL of the things in this post - the culmination of three years of frustration trying to figure out what I'm doing with coding, of wading through dense documentation, of wanting to give up before I even start. It's three years of dipping my toes into toxic techbro culture before running away. All added to decades of watching the web become corporate-sanitized, frustratingly difficult to customize, increasingly less fun, and overtly hostile to fans who dare enjoy sexual content.
To sum all of this up, it's the firm belief that we desperately need a resource like this. Something that's for us, by us. Something that builds fans up, instead of tears them down; that empowers them to create for themselves and their communities what no one is creating for them. It is a project I'm deeply passionate about.
And I can't wait until we can bring it to life for you all.
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spices28 · 5 months
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Get to know 9 people tag game
thank you @mistresslrigtar for tagging me! I love this -- it's so cute <3
Last song listened to: Hot & Heavy by Lucy Dacus
This song has been in my repeats since @korokposting recommended it to me -- he literally has the best music taste of all time. if he tells you to listen to something, do it. -- bc he said it reminded him of my zelink masquerade fic. Isn't that the sweetest??
Currently reading: OOOHHHH sooo many things. Although I've sorta committed myself to beta-ing so many projects, most of what I'm reading rn is what I'm editing.
The Long and Winding Road by @flutefemme -- A Twilight Princess AU where Zelda is running from her mob boss ex Ganon and finds a home with Link and his son. Very enemies to lovers. Very adorable. Except when Link is dealing with his widower grief -- then it's gutting.
A Lullaby for a Princess by @wouldyoustilllovemeifiwasawyrm -- Link and Zelda marry post!TotK after rapidly getting pregnant. There are a lot of really intense emotions in this piece and I love to see a bit of a darker look at post!Upheaval Hyrule. Link and Zelda each have my entire heart. They're such complicated people.
Two wonderful fics by @shameless-fujoshi. The Cage -- a Modern Zelink AU where Link is a cage fighter -- and Pride and Prejudice -- which has yet to arrive but is another very exciting modern AU. Firefighter!Link and Professor!Zelda.
And I'm nearly through A Couple of Trials by @kenlair -- which is part two of an incredibly ambitious story that aims at telling the story of post!BotW Zelink, eventually tracing it through ToTK, and relies heavily on elements that are already in game. No OC's -- every character and element has game/lore basis and it's really cool to see.
Sweet/spicy/savory: Savory
Current obsessions: Legend of Zelda lore, Vox Machina, DnD, Hadestown, TMNT, reading/editing as much Zelink as I possibly can, mindlessly playing RE4 and TotK
Relationship status: partnered
Last thing I googled: koroks -- needed to know whether to caps them or not :rofl:
Currently working on: two long fics! One retelling totk that I'm hopefully gonna partner with @shameless-fujoshi and the other a very long, excessive lore fic retelling the LoZ creation story -- and how Hylia chose her hero.
I'm tagging nine others who I would love to see their answers! But no pressure -- I know you lovely people are busy (and you may have already been tagged)
@korokposting, @wouldyoustilllovemeifiwasawyrm, @shameless-fujoshi, @citrusblooms, @franticcashew, @kenlair, @deiliamedlini, @obsidiangst, @aquaticpal
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kronkk · 1 year
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To the other person saying Lindsay isn't Breadtube:
She literally makes the exact same style of faux-woke content while spending all her money on boozing herself up (just like the rest of them), and has the same air of faux wokeness. Also, she's just another heterosexual fujoshi who claims to be "bi" despite never showing any attraction to women & marrying a man, even though she literally called out another woman for doing this exact same thing, making her a complete hypocrite.
She's a gendie, possibly a tankie, and her silence on the misogyny and abuse at Channel Awesome even well after she was separated from them up until smaller channels invited her to participate in writing their Google Doc about the topic all while being buddy-buddy with yet another group of notoriously misogynistic internet funnymen (Contrapoints, Hbomberguy, Shaun, etc) is extremely suspicious.
Shes a fujo? Oh my god this is so much
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teaveetamer · 1 year
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Have you seen the new character profiles FE JPN Twitter account posted today? Brodia's 2nd prince seems like he was grown in a lab specifically to appeal to the fujoshi demographic (positive connotation). Say hello to a future CYL winner, everyone!
It's like they looked at the most popular M/M ships in Fates (Leokumi) and FE3H (Dimilix, Sylvix), and tried their best to harness that energy into a single blorbo.
(Let's just hope he has some suggestive relationships with men other than his brother, otherwise there's going to be a TON of annoying discourse... Lachesis-types get this a lot already, but with homophobia in the mix? It's going to be a nightmare.)
I LITERALLY JUST LOOKED AND S C R E A M E D “OH NO HE’S MY TYPE” AJRKSHBSBDJENS
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(Sorry for Google translate I do not know Japanese but Japanese speaking mutuals can give more accurate translations if they like)
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hoxtilicioustf2 · 5 years
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I’ve seen many blogs fly “fujoshi don’’t interact”
Except I’m pretty sure a “fujoshi” is literally any girl who enjoys BL in any form, be it yaoi, slash, etc. Even queer girls who prefer femslash, like me, if they ship any M/M they’re fujoshi by definition. 
So like, you’re telling girls who enjoy ANY M/M to not interact. So if you fly a blog centered around a M/M ship, you might as well say “girls don’t interact.” Let that sink in for a while...
And if you’re gonna defend yourself “it’s only girls who fetishize M/M while disrespecting/objectifying gay couples IRL” Please look up the correct definition before plastering something like this over your blog. 
Saying “homophobes don’t interact” is seriously enough. Next to no one openly admits it so you will have to do your research anyway.
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scrEAM op's bio "mostly into BL shows and comics" ... fujoshi gonna preach to us...
had to google what a fujoshi was but 
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olderthannetfic · 3 years
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The Phantom of the Opera fandom is going through it this week. There is a Google doc created and circulated by a white trans man which accuses dozens of artists and fic writers of being terfs, racists, and orientalists. One issue, aside from the inherently unethical nature of blacklists, is that the list includes trans fans, fans of color, many of whom are Asian. So there's this strange dynamic of a list that was supposedly written to protect fans who are from these communities that is actively them instead. And this racist dynamic of a white person calling POC racist, and Asian fans specifically orientalist.
I'd love your take on any angle of this. What are your thoughts on these kinds of block lists? Do they happen in other fandoms? Thoughts on the racial dynamic of this situation? Thanks!
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Oof. Yes, I was thinking of saying something about this, but I hadn't gotten around to vetting posts for reblogging yet. When I first saw your post, it passed my sniff test, but I'm not very familiar with PotO fandom (Phandom? Hah! I thought that was a reference to Dan/Phil stans or Danny Phantom or something!), and I like to have a better grasp on what's going on before I reblog. I see more people have weighed in by now though.
My take is that this often happens with blacklists. I can't think of another exact parallel to this one off the top of my head (mostly because there are so many fandom wanks that the details get fuzzy), but every time I hear of a fandom blacklist something of this general type is wrong with it.
The sad reality is that the most vulnerable community members generally won't have time/confidence/assurance of their safety in a way that would make them likely to make a public one and spread it around. People with a lot of experience and perspective who have a good handle on what their group overall thinks is beyond the pale and who could reasonably speak for the whole group don't have time for petty shit like this either and are more aware of the downsides of a public list.
The sorts of people who spend their time on public blacklists are the opposite of the people you'd want to be making them. They're either chasing clout or they've gone off the deep end with "my ship/character is literally me, and when you write them wrong, you are literally committing crimes against me" lunacy.
It makes perfect, if horrible, sense that it would be a white person calling Asian fans orientalist. What we've seen time and time again is that outrage mobs come from a dominant culture. (So in English, in fanworks fandom, that's usually a US cultural context, even if many individual members aren't from the US themselves.) That's who has the numbers and the smug self-assurance of their holy righteousness.
It's very easy for a faker or a manipulator with bad intentions to imitate a Good Minority for this kind of mob. A Good Minority is scenically exotic and primitive and tells quaint stories about granny living in a hut or whatever other bullshit the listeners have internalized. A Good Minority doesn't like Bad Representation™, whether that's characters who were orientalist in their original form or badwrong kink or the wrong dude on top.
Unfortunately, actual members of whatever ethnicity or culture are rarely convenient stereotypes. It's a lot harder to get an outrage mob to care about them--or even to believe them about their identity--because they don't fit into some unconscious white savior or noble savage narrative.
It's like when "fujoshi"-hating fuckfaces whine about how m/m fanfic is bad rep but ignore that lots of cis gay men love stuff ten times more problematic and couldn't care less about AFABs' art and its supposed appropriativeness.
Masturbatory obsession with "authenticity" represses actual authenticity in favor of respectability politics and stereotypes
Among other reasons this is so is that minority members who disagree with the clout-chaser's version of things are a threat to their power. They're always first on the chopping block. We saw it in TOG. It's no surprise it's there in PotO.
Fake anti-racist activism doesn't incidentally harass POC: that's intentionally one of its main applications.
Public blacklists are grudgewank, this time and every time. The creep who made it sucks, but as with the situation in TOG fandom, it seems to me that a lot of the harm is coming from useful idiots.
If more fans would remain skeptical and make up their own damn minds about each person they block, these bullies wouldn't have such power.
Trying to be a better person is great. It's not an excuse for outsourcing your critical thinking. If we would stop reaching for easy answers to be Guaranteed Not Orientalist or whateverthefuck, we wouldn't fall for these transparent power grabs.
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tired-fandom-ndn · 3 years
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I cannot stress enough that if you're going to frame yourself as an authority on a word from another language, then you need to at least know the basics of that language.
Japanese does not have pluralization. It also NEVER has words that end in consonants other than "n" (ん/ン). Saying things like "fujoshis" or "yanderes" will only tell people that you don't know enough about the language to be speaking on it.
If a word has kanji, then their meaning is often more important than the common translation, especially in regards to cultural contexts. Fujoshi is commonly translated to "rotten woman" but that translation takes on a very different meaning when you learn that one of the kanji used, 腐, specifically refers to literal rot and decay, with no moral meaning behind it. It's used in plenty of other words, including tofu.
Take a Japanese lesson or do a fucking google search before speaking on other languages. It's not hard.
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sadgirlnoga · 2 years
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No Nuance November, Random Edition(TW for all kinds of bigotry).
1. Being superstraight means that you are afraid of a trans woman treating you the same way you treat lesbians( i even said this on my instagram).
2. Antisemitism is a rabbit hole that is way easier to get sucked into than you think.
3. Reclaiming slurs is way more healthy than you think, it lets you develope a backbone and makes you easier to handle them.
4. Saying "water is the best element in the avatar universe, i wanna be a waterbender so i can be a bloodbender" is just another way of saying you wanna force yourself onto someone against their will.
5. You cannot call yourself a mens rights activist and exclude trans and gay men, otherwise you are just a genderbend terf.
6. Most of the insults transphobes use against trans people are also insulting to cis people, and it makes the more suceptible to terfism.
7. If you try to insult me by calling me a crossdressing homosexual male im just gonna assume you are a fujoshi/fudanshi who gets off to the idea of me being in an MLM relationship, please go outside, touch some grass and stay the fuck away from me.
8. Most transphobes seem to have a weird obsession with trans girls, i literally asked a transphobe why he feels the need to talk so much about trans people and he said "Scientific curiousity of what drives a man to cut off his wang", please just leave us alone, google is free and a subscribtion to samantha lux's channel doesnt cost you a penny.
9. If you use david reimer as a way to invalidate a trans persons dysphoria you have no respect for the dead.
10. Those shawn mendes jokes y'all love to make are the most homophobic thing i have ever seen my community do, please go seek a therapist, this isnt an insult its a concern!
11. as much as i love shonen and nostalgia anime most of them prepetuate a shit tone of homophobic stereotypes by queer coding their villains just as much as disney.
12. Y'all really need to put trigger warnings for your no nuance november posts.
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meme-loving-stuck · 3 years
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Not to be all Controversial™ again but whoever started screaming "cringe culture is dead!!!!!" did more to kill off all the collective brain cells of fandom tumblr than like, anything else ever in the history of this site
Like, it's one thing to say "stop making fun of kids for liking harmless shit made for kids" and it's one thing to say "stop making fun of ANYONE for liking harmless shit"
It's another thing ENTIRELY to be saying "Don't criticize ANYONE for liking ANYTHING or you're an ASSHOLE with a SUPERIORITY COMPLEX"
Because you know what is missing from that? The part where it's harmless.
It's all fine and dandy if you like Harry Potter. Or drawing yourself as an Among Us character, they're adorable. Or listening to KPOP.
What's NOT harmless is obsessing over a piece of media to the point where you defend it's creator and flaws to your dying breath, and anyone who dares argue with you is a BIG MEAN ASSHOLE WHO LIKES TO RUIN PEOPLE'S FUN >:((. Pushing THAT idea and mentality is not harmless, it never has been, but that's what y'all have been doing!
Now we've got
fucking KPOP fans infantilizing, fetishizing, obsessing over these "idols" in a way that is literally fueled by racism & fujoshi bullshit. And a lot of KPOP idols, who are literal celebrities, are also racist themselves! Remember the BTS Nazi photoshoot? Or how many of these people think using racial slurs is fine because they're not white? I'll let you google those. Fans fall allll over themselves to defend, excuse, and erase the harm the industry does, the harm the individuals do as public figures, & will now ravenously attack anyone who dares criticize them for their weird fetishization of asian men & women alike.
35 year old Harry-Potter-obsessed cis women harrassing minors online for saying ANYTHING about the series. Anything. I swear to god. But they're even worse if you happen to point out the blatant whitewashing, antisemitism, or racism in the original books AND movies. Bonus points if you try to criticize JKR herself for openly FURTHERING her bigoted bullshit on her multi-million dollar Twitter Throne, and you find out these fans are also transphobic, and they RABIDLY SUPPORT THE AUTHOR. Hmm!
Reylo.
Actually, people shipping, promoting, producing content of abusive, incestual, or pedophilic pairings IN GENERAL. Putting this kind of shit where minors could be exposed to it, and using it as an excuse to groom minors, even. Don't even get me STARTED on if it's a nonstraight ship. Then you literally cannot criticize them or you're a homophobic/transphobic piece of shit and how dare you!!!
Literally just ANY popular piece of British media being 'adapted' and in turn whitewashed, or just openly racist in the way it handles characters! And being written by racists! And having the actors be racist in public where their fans can see it and adore it! So you get entire fandoms JUMPING to defend either the show's, the actor's, or its own racism because it's """"british humor"""" girl I.....
All of this and I'm an asshole for telling you you're a weirdo? Fuck off lmfao it has NOTHING to do with ~Cringe Culture™™™ it has to do with you not being capable of critical thought or critical consumption of media AT ALL. You're not being "bullied" you're being recognized as someone who doesn't consume or interact with any media in a healthy way.
So yeah, you deserve to be called out on it.
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is the show cherry magic a big departure from its source material? i got curious after u mentioned it so i googled it & the wiki page for the manga it's based on came up? like ngl "bl"/yaoi makes me uncomfortable in general and uhh the synopsis for this one really raised alarm bells for me... but i trust your taste and i've been pleasantly surprised by good lgbt rep in asian media this year (my unfamiliar family, hello dracula, him, etc.)... am i being too quick to judge?
Dear anonie, I am unfamiliar with the source material but I keep reading the drama is taking some liberties and not sticking that closely to the original manga and tbh learning about some changes I am so very pleased and relieved (for example one female character was a high level fujoshi in the manga which is a big turn off for me but was improved in the drama and was given a much more meaningful characterization). I understand your reluctance regarding bl as a genre, I myself don’t intentionally seek it for it’s often times riddled with cringy and problematic tropes but what surprised me in Cherry Magic is that it doesn’t have any of that. It’s literally the most wholesome thing I’ve seen in a while. The characters have depth and they’re handled with respect and care and despite some cliches it’s totally not hurtful or offensive and I simply love it. I’m flattered to know you trust my taste and if you do then you can trust me on this one too. Even if it’s still ongoing, I believe and hope it will remain this consistently good till the end. Do give it a try and tell me what you think. I’d love to hear back from you ^_^
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saifey · 3 years
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 a couple months ago i had a dream that I saw an ex of mine on my dash defending this problematic manga-only Eva character named Grace who they kinned and I had no idea who she was so I googled "grace nge" and there were all these memes calling her the ideal gf and the perfect some kind of dere and people being really pissed she wasn't in the anime but nothing saying who she was so I decided to read the chapters she was in and. Okay. so before kaji died he gives shinji a talk on his farm and is like "if anything bad happens to you ... Bury it" and he means repress your feelings and that but shinji understood it as Literally Bury Your Problems in this Actual Plot of Land. so fast forward to kaworu's stuff (kaji is obviously dead by this point). shinji is so upset about killing kaworu that he decides to take kajis advice and he literally buries his head in kajis now-barren dirt. and as it turns out kaji sucked at farming and engineered THIS dirt to like. idk clone? things and the next day kaworu has his body back but it's like really shitty because it's basically made of paper. and he can't move more than a couple feet because if he's away from kajis dirt he'll die. kaworu BEGS shinji to mercy kill him but shinji is like nope :D and starts watering him and tending to him like he's a plant. eventually shinji has to go back to nerv because for whatever reason kaworu wasn't the last angel here and shinji doesn't want to leave  him there because what if he withers. What if he fucking withers. and the two of them notice that there's this girl watching them and they call her over to them and THIS is grace. she's like rei with purple hair. she says she would love to watch kaworu while shinji is at work so shinji thanks her and goes off to work and when he comes back kaworu has more of an actual body now (it's still all plant but it isn't 100% paper anymore) and shinji is very happy at this and he kisses kaworu and grace like. okay she's very obviously a fujoshi and she's very invested in shinji and kaworu letting her watch what they do and they're uncomfortable with that but she's like "I have medical reasons for this. I may be 14 but I already have a PhD in botany. I need to know what happens if humans try to mate with plants." and shinji goes "but we can't mate!!! we're m-m-m-men!!!!!" and grace is like. 😐. shinji gets called back to nerv after this and when he gets back kaworu has mastered earthbending because he's like "well, im basically as much of an earthling as it gets, I need to be able to help you" and shinjis like yayaya he loves me :DDD and gendo hears about kaworu throwing mountains around like it's nothing and he's like. I Can Use This Child For Evil After All. so gendo goes to kajis farm and tells kaworu to pilot an eva again and kaworu says he can't leave this dirt or he'll die so gendo thinks about it and he goes. STUFF YOUR POCKETS WITH DIRT. and kaworu says that he can't do that because if he does it'll be disrespectful to kaji's memory and gendo gets really weird and is like. You don't know what Kaji would have wanted. . . and he sets kaworu on fire. and he just burns. I don't think shinji is there and I have no idea what grace is doing when this happens. but yeah, best character in eva
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