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polisena-art · 4 months

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I've always wanted to ask since it's never definite and changes based on adaption, but what's your preference for Panchito's last name? Pistoles? Romero Miguel Francisco Quintero Gonzalez III? No last name at all? Some combination like Pistoles being a stage name? If he lived with José in Rio long enough could he eventually adopt Carioca? It seems to differ for everyone which is one of the cool fandom things

HI! SO- I can safely say I don't consider Panchito's surname to be "Pistoles". To me, that's his stage name and an American stage name at that!! Getting a little meta for a bit here, the name "Pistoles" was chosen for the character simply because it was easier for the American audience to pronounce it with an "e" instead of the original "a" in the spanish word for "pistols". So, going back in universe, imagine that in the 1940s when the Three Caballeros commissioned a small series of posters with the little money they had, they all came with a typo in Panchito's name because of the language barrier/miscommunication with the print shop. But in the end Panchito kinda digged that XDDD "NO, LEAVE IT IN!!! It makes it new and exciting, guys!!!" Paco might say, upbeat and always seeing the bright side of every situation. I like to imagine that his nickname in his hometown and stage name in México was "Panchito Pistolas" and just "Panchito" for family and friends. As for his actual surname I really dig the House of Mouse version, (Panchito Romero Miguel Junípero Francisco Quintero González Tercero) even if it means he would be Francisco twice XD, tbh not the weirdest naming decision to happen in latin america by far...

AS FOR JOSÉ!!! Well, first, I don't think that either one of them would adopt any of each others' surnames (but this is my own bias because I kinda hate the whole changing names for marriage and the burocracy it entails-) Also I'm in the fence whether to consider "Carioca" to be José's real surname or not. This is very much me overanalyzing the character but we are in the "overanalyzing stupid characters website" so whatever- The thing with José is that, here in Brazil, "Zé Carioca" reads simply as a very descriptive nickname meaning "guy from Rio". Reason why I can totally see it being just a nickname that later got turned into a stage name for him. So, it also doesn't make sense to me for Panchito to have it in his name, that Bitch (affectionate) isn't carioca! But anyways, just to clarify, can "Carioca" be a surname? Yes, absolutely!! It is, in fact, a surname that exists in Brazil although it's not a very popular one. But when you consider the character's history and also Zé's cousins (the joke with them being that each has a regional name after "Zé" indicating where they are from), the idea you get is that Carioca is not a family name but a label. The comics have also shown us some of Zé's relatives that could indicate what other alternative surnames he may have but, mind you, none of this means that Zé would have inherited these particular surnames! So we're still in headcanon valley here. First, there are Zé's two grandads: Zé Paiva (or Zeca Paiva) and Josué Carioca. We don't know which one is from mother's side or father's side tho. And later there are more relatives, including two grandmas, one from the Dutch comics, Oma Carioca (aka vovó Carioca), and the other from a recent Culturama release, Isaura Araripe. Once again we don't know which one represents the mother's side and which represents the father's side. In the Culturama special story tho, José's family, including himself, identify as "Araripe" (a real surname but also a play on the word "arara" meaning "macaw" in portuguese).

So, we coooould make Zé Carioca's registry name be any mix of these like "José Araripe Carioca" or "José Paiva Araripe" OR "José Carioca Araripe" OR "José Paiva Carioca" OOOOR if you're a fan of long names "José Carioca Araripe Paiva". The mother's family name comes first in Brazil but since we don't know which one that would be, you can pick and choose to your heart's content. I said all that BUT I'm also a big fan of the "descriptive" nature of "José Carioca" as a name for the character, because it almost grants him a kind of anonimity. There are millions of Zés in Brazil and millions of cariocas (in relation to place of birth) too. Which makes him LITERALLY JUST A GUY!!! Just a little guy commiting scams all around and nobody fucking knows his real name-- A REAL POWER MOVE in my opinion. That said, I would also find it very funny if he had the most WIDELY USED Brazilian surname and ONLY THAT, making him "José Silva" or "José da Silva", so he could maintain that "generic guy" energy in his registry name as well.

#I think Zé should have “Silva” in his name so he could really be the QUINTESSENTIAL Brazilian little guy #I also looove to headcanon zé as an orphan so imagine if he grows up not even being sure of what his actual surnames were #he gets a state provided one IF THAT and it's Silva #because in the 40s there were people going around w no surnames no registry no nothing #sadly invisible to the government #the three caballeros #josé carioca #panchito pistoles #text post #ask #anonymous

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vane-ir · 3 years

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The Face Of Happiness ✨💙✨

La Cara De La Felicidad✨💙✨

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screenshotsvarious · 4 years

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#panjose #panchito romero miguel junípero francisco quintero gonzález iii #jose carioca #panchito pistoles #ducktales #the gay caballeros #the three gay caballeros

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belarix · 4 years

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This is the last gay post ... at the moment. . . .

#the three gays caballeros #the gay caballeros #panjose #panchito romero miguel junípero francisco quintero gonzález iii #panchito gonzalez #panchito pistoles #josé carioca

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vane-ir · 3 years

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Donald with a Little Hat is too cute 💕

#donald duck #disney #Pato Donald #Donald Duck #José Carioca #Joe Carioca #Zé Carioca #Panchito Romero Miguel Junípero Francisco Quintero González III #Gayo José Francisco Alisandro De Lima y De La Loma Pancho Alegre #Panchito Romero Miguel Junípero Francisco Quintero González #Panchito Pistolas #Panchito Pistoles #Donald Fauntleroy Duck #The Three Caballeros #Los Tres Caballeros #The Legend Of The Three Caballeros #La Leyenda De Los Tres Caballeros #Three Caballeros #TLOT3C

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vane-ir · 3 years

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🎶Estas son las mañanitas

Que cantaba los Fans

Hoy por ser día de tu aniversario

Te las cantamos aquí

Despierta, Panchito, despierta

Mira que ya amaneció

Ya los pajaritos cantan

La luna ya se metió🎶

On a day like today ... December 21, 1944, Our Cheerful, Brave, Funny and Very Scandalous Rooster "PANCHITO PISTOLES" made his first appearance in the movie "The Three Caballeros".

Let's celebrate his 76 years of great Mexican Caballero with his great friends José Carioca and Donald Duck.