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5eraphim · 1 year

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eras of tumblr i could give hour-long Ted Talks about

(only including eras i participated in, not what i’ve lived through second-handedly. these are what i personally remember seeing on my dash, i’m sure there’s plenty i missed. This is an ongoing list/not fixed/subject to future edits.)

2015 gravity falls

the rise of sexyman bill cipher

depravity falls and putting 12 yr old characters in violent guro situations

alex hirsch worship

billdip discourse

the diehard thirst for Gruncle Ford

“i want to fuck that dorito”

2015/16 Black Butler

SebaCiel discourse

Grelle discourse (like, i don’t even know how to elaborate, but if you were there you would remember how people were fighting over her characterization in all different directions. Which is funny because, love her or hate her, she is barely even in the show lol)

The needlessly intense sjw vs anti-sjw/ fiction doesn’t effect reality/ shipping fighting

can’t quantify this, but i swear 80% of the fans were ex-hetalia fans

Black butler 2 being either loved or hated, while book of circus was almost unanimously loved

the Scott Freeman incident...

no one giving a fuck about the female characters

Yana/Jay Michael Tatum worship

2016 Undertale

Sans undertale sexyman rise

the most raw video game soundtrack of all time

papyton

no one agrees how to draw undyne, but we all agree that she’s gay as fuck

(This is a personal anecdote, but i actually made a friend in highschool bc i drew undertale fanart on the board at latin class nd she added to it the next day, i added to it the next day and eventually we met up and it was so adorable)

“get dunked on”

2016-17 hamilton, heathers, great comet, dear evan hansen, be more chill musical theater insanity

rip tumblr user galactibun

The Hamilton craze breathing new life into the 1776 musical fandom

Most bizarre fanfic aus seen on tumblr thus far (hamilton)

The great comet Tony snubs

BMC and DEH blowing up, despite most fans only caring about the characters, totally ignoring the plot.

“Miku binder Thomas Jefferson”

No one giving a fuck about “The Hamilton Mixtape”

Gatekeeping fans who didn’t read war and peace or the ron chernow biography (i don’t think anyone ever gave a shit about the BMC orginal book which is SO FUNNY)

lin manuel miranda worship

real people fanfictions of actors/shipping them (especially hamilton!)

Key Figures include: Lin Manuel Miranda, Ron Chernow, Philipa Soo, Daveed Diggs, Ben Platt, George Salazar, Barette Wilbert Weed, and Mike Faist

2016-2017 the yuri on ice, killing stalking, kaikyu yaoi trifecta

Yaoi take over

The anime fans collective salt over YOI winning anime of the year 2016

Not in this time period, but the Killing Stalking fans despising the ending en mass several years later.

Free! was also huge as the second season concluded not long before, but wasn’t receiving new updated in Realtime like the other three.

honestly? i mostly just remember people drawing some of the most beautiful fan art of the characters and not bothering to follow the plots

2015-2016 steven universe discourse peak craziness

There are no words, looking back this all feels like a fever dream

Insane fan-theories (as in- even for Tumblr, these theories were very out there)

Pink diamond character derailment

“watching steven universe is the opposite of eating pussy”

Gemosonas

fusion = sex???

“it’s over isn’t it” single-handedly inspiring some of the most beautiful fan art to come out of the show; "Stronger than you” def inspired much more fan-creations, but they were nowhere near as good imo

That terrible lily peet video that sent a tidal wave of fandom-fighting

Concrete

Nicki Minaj guest appearance

the porn avalanche predating the 2018 nsfw ban

My OG account got banned >:( (i never posted porn, tried to email support to no avail, I DID NOT DEVERVE THIS YOU NARCS)

50-50 mix of people posting lewd art and people posting links to find them as they migrated to twitter

“Female presenting nipples”

The return of the citrus scale (orange: PG/G, Lime: PG-13, Lemon: R, Grapefruit: X)

“Too Spicy for Tumblr”

Didn’t even stop the porn bots, mostly just screwed over artists and writers

IMO the peak of user v staff animosity

2020 hannibal

The small but loyal anthony hopkins defenders

Some of the most beautiful creative gore art

The moodboard to web-weaving pipeline

People being surprisingly respectful of fans who only watched the show, or who didn’t read Red Dragon/Silence of the Lambs, or where otherwise not invested in the greater overall Hannibal canon.

Manipulate, mansplain, malewife

Key Figures Include: Madds Mikkelson, Hugh Dancy, Anthony Hopkins

november 5, 2020

You just had to be there man, i don’t know what to tell you.

Key Figures include: Donald Trump, Castiel, Dean Winchester, Joe Biden, Vladimir Putin, Nevada, Georgia, Wisconsin and debatably Sherlock season 5

the 2021 coquette girl blogger era

Lana del rey worship

The ungodly amount of softcore porn

Gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss

Glorification of eating disorders, benzos, trailer parks, predatory men, age gap relationships, and so much more!

Teenagers blogging about Russian lit you know they never read

Waifblr

Still not sure to this day how much of this was ironic and how much wasn’t?? Or if any of this was self-aware???

Yes babe you’re so bambi, kate moss, diet coke, wellbutrin, dasha nekrosova, ballet, klonopin, trad cath, fawn, dior, sofia coppela, can you please shut the fuck up now?

key figures include: Lana del Rey, Daisy Randone, Dasha Nekrosova, Nina Sayers, Fiona Apple, Anya Taylor Joy, Sylvia Plath, Kate Moss, Kirsten Dunst (probably so many more, but this is just off the top of my head)

(bonus)

2015/16- My personal earliest memories of really getting into tumblr, and witnessing the tail-end of the Hetalia reign

2016- the end of Homestuck

2016- the epidemic of overwatch porn

2016- Does Jumin Han is gay?

2017- RWBY’s nosedive in quality from season 3 to 4, losing the majority of the fanbase

2018 Boyfriend to Death civil war (Gatobob v ElectricPuke)

2018- Detroit become Human drops and the robot-fucking gatekeeping

2018- the Game of thrones/Endgame joint disaster ending melt down

2019- Sub-par Omens

2020- the Dead by Daylight community rioting when Pyramid Head’s ass got nerfed

2020- Cyberpunk 2077 is released and is torn apart almost instantly. Looking back by my approximations post were made up of- 10% people who were actually playing the games and enjoying themselves, 20% people who were playing the game and WEREN’T having fun, 55% People who never bought/played the game who were making up crazy glitches for clout, 15% hardcore pornography of characters you’d never seen before. (I’m quite salty about this bc I worked at GameStop at this time and had people constantly talking about glitches in casual conversation and I just know most of these bitches were LYING.)

20??- don’t remember the exact dates, but phase 3 marvel was un-escapable at this time

2020/21- Succession blows up

2022 Ghost bc blows up on tiktok, the fandom already sizable on tumblr only goes up from here

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blackbutlerfandomnerddomain · 3 years

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Bestie, ur against sebaciel but ship sebalizzy? Same thing just diffrent fonts

*blocked*

Hmm... yes and no. Now, I'm not against Sebaciel. I just don't ship it or fetish it in a sense.

I got into Black Butler when I was in early middle school and I still recall feeling a bit uncomfortable when the corset scene or any scene where it's a immortal/grown ass man seducing or fanservacing with a child. And I've mentioned before when supporting Sebalizzy that it's when Lizzy is older.

I know some people ship Sebaciel when Ciel is older and that is okay, I just never saw it as a romantic or sexual sense. I've always seen Sebastian and Ciel as a father/son duo or possible brother figures or maybe just friends, it was even told by both English and Japanese cast of the pair that they know of the ship but aren't titling it as anything but a butler and master working together and solving mysteries.

But if you like Sebaciel and hate Sebalizzy, then by all means that's your tea or coffee and it shouldn't change just cause someone disagrees.

However I dislike the fact that a ship makes up a person if you don't want to be friends with someone or not.

Now here is where I'll explain properly about why I ship Lizzy and Sebastian; Hades and Persephone. Darkness and light. Pure and sinner. Sweet and salty. Mystery and romance. Sad ending and happily ever afters.

It's all in the form of difference. Not only that but respect. O!Ciel had shown so many signs of trying to distance himself from Lizzy so when the time comes when his soul will be eaten there will be no one there to mourn him, meanwhile R!Ciel just appeared out of nowhere with no known knowledge of who Lizzy really is as a person. Her likes, her dislikes, her interests, etc. She hid both her talents and thus herself in order to be cute and appealing to the two only men in her life beside her family, while Sebastian pretty much admires it.

Now I know the ship will never happen. Far from likely yes. But I still enjoy the idea of it sometimes.

And for the record, it took me FOREVER to be used to the ship, same goes I'm sure for every other ship. And I do in fact ship Lizzy and both Ciels(more so of O!Ciel-) as well as Sieglinde and Doll and possibly even more if the time comes to it.

Now thank you for coming to my TED Talk, I decided to answer this thought I kind of doubt you read through it. Hope you're life if still good and safe @biesmichae

#ask #sebalizzy #ship talk #im not sorry

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pecaminoso-exe · 4 years

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Yeah antis directly target people because a) then mutuals know who to block and b) this isn‘t a taste thing. If it were just a unconventional ship like idk William x Ronald or some shit (Y’know between two consenting adults) yeah okay „ship what you like, don‘t attack others for it“ rules apply. But y‘all are shipping a pedophillic ship and with how much it’s present in the fandom people/minors who like black butler are influenced to think that an adult x a child is ok. Media affects reality.

..oh my, it’s sad to see that this is what I come back to. I forgot all about this ask, dear anon! I had to try and find where this came from, and also try and figure out what you meant in general. Alright, I'll assume this was on my post "..and it got personal(?)" that was posted.. over two months ago? Yes, I think so. Alright on to what you were telling me, I'm not good with English so I'll need to alter the text to something I'll understand. Like, were you using voice to text or..? Anyways! Let's take this piece by piece, yes?

"Yes, antis directly target sebaciel shippers because this allows mutuals to know who to block, and(but??) the issue isn't whether the ship is your taste or not (if you ship it or not?)."

So, if I target someone from literally any other ship I can justify it by saying, 'so you're aware who to block!'? Am I understanding this right? Am I? Fun fact: Some of your mutuals can consist of pro shippers, sebaciel shippers, or people who really just don't care what someone ships (is this the same as pro shippers?). I love how your only 'reason' to attacking is 'sO muTuALs kNoW wHO tO bLOcK'. The lack of reason proves that there really is no reason to target a shipper that's literally just enjoying a ship. Also, when did I say anything about 'taste'? I'm reading over the post and the one or two comments I posted and nowhere do I say that this has to do with taste (But to all my sebaciel shippers- you have impeccable taste *chef kiss*). I said if you don't ship it fine, but I never said: "If it isn't your taste, okay, don't ship it".

"If it were just an unconventional ship like William x Ronald- a ship between two consenting adults- then yeah the 'ship what you like and don't attack others for it' rules apply." What was the use of the word 'unconventional'? According to Google, unconventional means not based on or conforming to what is generally done or believed. Bizzare. Weird. Eccentric. Strange. Are you really calling a ship this word? Is it because it's a ship between two male shinigami? Oh, I'm sorry, did you mean 'conventional'? Ah, but no because whatever falls under the 'norm' isn't judged, now is it? So let's say you did mean unconventional. I find that word unnecessary in general. Kind of like me pointing out the use of that word. Unnecessary as hell. Let's get rid of that then.

"If it were just a ship between two consenting adults- like William x Ronald- then yeah the 'ship what you like and don't attack others for it' rule applies." Two consenting adults. Okay, this I can see your point to. But uh, bold of you to assume that when someone says sebaciel we automatically link it to the Ciel we were introduced to or even the small child we were shown a few chapters ago in the manga (I'll talk about this point more in the next segment). In fanart, fanfiction, roleplays, whatever, Ciel is aged up. And if he isn't I've seen cute, chaste, stuff. But obviously, there are the members that keep Ciel as he is with smut included. I understand why this is an issue for some, but at the end of the day, it's a fucking anime/manga. Now if it were some type of show where actors- like real humans- were in it and someone was shipping a literal child with an adult (keyword: literal(seeing how much you antis love to say 'literally')) well then it isn't okay. But because these would be real humans involved. Black Butler doesn't. Unless you count the voice actors- but those are consenting adults so.. ‘ship what you like and don’t attack others for it’ ;)

"But you're shipping a pedophilic ship and with how much it's in the fandom, fans (some including minors) are influenced to think that shipping an adult and a child is okay." Okay. Let's go back to the point I said I'd continue talking about. "But uh, bold of you to assume that when someone says sebaciel we automatically link it to the Ciel we were introduced to or even the small child we were shown a few chapters ago in the manga." If we were to condone that shipping a child and an adult were okay, then we'd begin to draw the eleven-year-old we saw in those chapters. Or, you know, take a REAL child and a REAL adult, push them together and say ‘cute!! <3′ (*blergh*) But we don't. And in you saying that the ship being around in the fandom affects minors into thinking it's okay is like saying "a child who has gay friends will become gay" or "if I like to eat spicy food then you will too just because I do". Like there is no logic to this. Whatsoever. The person who ships something will ship it, the person who doesn't will not.

"Media affects reality." Exactly. Media. Seeing on the media real world affecting topics like LGBTQ+, racism, the pandemic, etc does affect reality. But why? Because it's a topic we live in. It's people who we see, who are around us, who aren't around us but still affect us. But Kuroshitsuji is a pure work of fiction. Fiction. Fiction does not affect reality. It's as simple as that, dear anon.

_____________________________________________________________ If you're asking why it took a month to reply to your 'ask', anon, it's because I've been busy and I'm sure you were as well when you wrote this, seeing how it took me a month to try and figure out what the shit this was saying. If you think targeting someone is justifiable, you're the problem. Especially if they've done literally nothing to you.

But if this isn't what you meant, well then- please learn how to write first and then ask me again. ^^ 'Cause you know, I'm not good with English so I have to alter things.

#anon #sinfuledits-exe #sinfuledits.exe #i ran out of tags yo #ask

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nominalbutler · 7 years

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Sebaciel Week, Day 1 (late) – Food

(Several days late now, this is an excerpt from my ongoing modern AU ft. lots of domestic sebaciel and many OOC moments for fluff’s sake)

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“I haven’t eaten all day.”

It was an innocent comment, just something Ciel realized and mentioned off-handedly as he climbed out of the front seat of Sebastian’s Gran Coupe, though he regretted opening his mouth once he caught a glimpse of the other man’s expression.

“Are you hungry?” Sebastian asked, almost eagerly. “I can fix you something.”

Of course he could, Ciel thought. Sebastian loved to cook, especially for Ciel – the kid ate with such gusto, scarfing down plate after plate, sometimes forgoing the fork and knife set out for him in favor of fingers and tearing teeth. As he cleaned up the drops of sauce and stray bits of carbs that Ciel would leave in his wake, Sebastian had to admire the body’s metabolism; Ciel never seemed to gain any weight, matter how much rich food and dessert he consumed.

Shrugging, Ciel pushed the car door shut and headed for the house, unlocking the back door with Sebastian’s set of keys. Sebastian followed, and Ciel could already see the culinary cogs turning, illuminating Sebastian’s normally somber mahogany eyes. Half heartedly, he kicked the door open wide enough for Sebastian to sidle into the kitchen behind him with his groceries. The reusable canvas bags were already piled up in the backseat when Sebastian picked Ciel up from work, and the young man had no idea what to expect for that night.

Barely through the doorway, and Sebastian was already brainstorming ideas for their dinner as he followed Ciel into the kitchen. The younger of the two settled in to listen to them all, a mildly disinterested expression in his face. Sebastian suggested a pesto risotto, of course made with with fresh basil from his garden, with roasted chicken and vegetables; crab-stuffed mushrooms with whole roasted cauliflower and whipped goat cheese; chorizo-stuffed chicken maybe, with spiced braised lentils and tomatoes; brown butter shrimp with parmesan basil corn orzo; that one-pot ranch chicken and rice dish that he knew Ciel liked.

This is how it always was. Whenever Ciel was over, Sebastian insisted on cooking – breakfast, lunch, dinner and dessert, and some snacks in between. Actually, Sebastian insisted on cooking all the time, even when it was just him, alone in his tiny house in the middle of nowhere. Ciel had never seen a carry-out container in the fridge or in the trash; no pre-prepared or processed foods in the pantry; definitely nothing that could be made in a microwave. Ciel once called him a low-rent Hannibal Lecter, minus the cannibalism and rabid manipulation. Before he met Sebastian, the majority of Ciel’s meals came from a box or a drive-thru. It was easy and cheap, and he had to wonder, didn’t Sebastian ever get tired of this whole rigmarole?

“I don’t care,” Ciel said abruptly, cutting Sebastian off before he descended too far down the oubliette. “Why can’t we just like order a pizza or something?”

"I don’t think any place would deliver all the way out here,” Sebastian answered. Ciel shook his head and wandered into the living room, kicking off his unflattering black sneakers with the regulation non-slip soles and slumping down heavily on the couch. “I can make a dough in like, ten minutes though, if you want to help me fix one,” the older man offered, sticking his head into the room to gauge Ciel’s reaction.

"No, that’s not what I meant,” came the exasperated response, followed by a frustrated sigh, two beautiful blue eyes rolling in annoyance as Ciel muttered, “Whatever.” Sebastian raised one fine eyebrow as an inquisition, and Ciel sank further into the couch. “It’s fine,” he insisted, reaching for the television remote with a resigned look on his face. “Make whatever you want. You know I’ll eat it.”

Sebastian frowned, but simply nodded and turned back to the kitchen, ruminating on Ciel’s mood as he finished putting away his groceries. He knew that Ciel was not used to being waited on hand and foot, though the kid had adapted to the lifestyle quite well in the past few months. He never hesitated to tell Sebastian what he wanted to eat, what he was in the mood for. And when he wasn’t sure, Sebastian was all too happy to sit back and rattle off dish after dish until something piqued the insatiable young man’s interest. Ciel always seemed to enjoy sitting at the counter, drinking a beer or a cocktail Sebastian had prepared, and watching his partner cook for him while they shared stories from the day. The junk food that Sebastian had bought at Ciel’s request went untouched in the cupboards for weeks – who needs Doritos and microwaveable mac and cheese when you have your own personal chef?

Suddenly struck with an ingenious thought, Sebastian slunk away silently to the garage, where a second refrigerator stood, fully stocked with drinks and frozen goods. Digging to the bottom of the freezer, he was relieved to find a frosty DiGiorno pizza that had been in there for God knows how long, but hey – it’s frozen, right? And with so many preservatives, it would never expire. With a satisfied smile on his face, Sebastian returned to the house with the cold pizza package in one hand, a six-pack of Ciel’s favorite beer in the other. While the oven warmed up, he quickly set to whipping up something sweet to follow. Dessert had always been his specialty. He used the unopened package of Oreos in the cupboard to make a crust, and fixed a divinely sweet no-bake cheesecake while the pizza cooked, grease sizzling and pepperonis sweating in the oven.

"Wanna watch a movie or something?” Sebastian asked as he re-entered the living room, handing a bottle of beer and a frosted glass out to Ciel.

"What about dinner?”

"I figured we could eat out here tonight, if that’s okay with you.” Sebastian brought out a bottle of wine for himself, taking a whiff of the fine ruby liquid before pouring a generous amount into a long-stemmed glass.

"Fine with me,” Ciel replied. “What are we having?” His magnetic blue eyes widened, and then softened when Sebastian retired to the kitchen for a third time and returned with the still-steaming pizza on a large ceramic serving platter. “Did you make this?” He asked as Sebastian hands him a napkin and a paper plate.

"Nope.”

Ciel smiled and shook his head in a reluctant sort of way. Sebastian was good, he had to admit. He didn’t need a three-course meal every night, or fresh-squeezed orange juice with his French toast in the morning – that wasn’t why he was seeing Sebastian. The man’s talent in the kitchen was merely an added bonus, much like his talent in the bedroom.

The room was peacefully silent for a moment, save for the subtle sounds of mastication and the clink of the round pizza cutter on the plate. “It doesn’t matter to me what we eat,” Ciel explained as he reached for another serving, picking a piece of sliced pepperoni off and popping it in his mouth. “Just that we’re eating it together, you know? You don’t have to go all out for me all the time; I’m fine with whatever.”

"Okay, I understand,” Sebastian replied. “I’ll try not to go overboard in the kitchen anymore.”

"Well, I never said that,” Ciel warbled through a mouthful of cheese and pepperoni and sausage. “Go crazy if you want, you just don’t have to do it every night, okay? Listen, I like when you cook for me, but it’s not a big deal if you don’t. Like this,” he nodded to the pizza in front of them, his now empty glass and the bottle of wine Sebastian had brought out, the spy action-thriller playing on the TV, “this was perfect.”

Sebastian smiled. “I’m glad you liked it. I guess I just get… I don’t know, excited whenever you’re over, and I want to treat you to something nice…”

"Yeah, you always act like its some big special occasion!” Ciel protested.

"To me, it is,” Sebastian shrugged. “But I get what you’re saying. Next time, we’ll eat out. We can bring the leftovers home and have them for lunch the next day. How does that sound?” He leaned over and planted a cute little kiss on Ciel’s cheek, which inevitably made the boy scoff and roll his eyes.

"Yeah, that sounds good,” he replied, returning Sebastian’s gesture with a kiss on the lips. He didn’t need to be spoiled, he didn’t need to be doted on; he just needed Sebastian, and the sooner this guy figured that out, the better. “You made dessert for tonight though, right?”

Sebastian laughed and kissed Ciel again. “Oh baby boy, of course I did.”

#sebacielweek #sc #my stuff #j writes

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