#also sometimes i just wanna read stories that don't remind me of the harsh truths of reality lmfao like get outtaaa heeerreee | Explore Tumblr Posts and Blogs

ignitification · 3 years

Note

Villain Stans:the villains did nothing wrong, they're innocent.

The villians:killing many innocent people, destroying many homes and towns, hurting people psychologically and physically,being literal irredeemable people.

Like no,this isn't a fairy tale where the villains get redeemed in the end and they all hold hands and sing songs.No

Shigaraki has to be killed, it's not even a option.and that whole "it's never too late to change"and"everyone deserves a second chance"isn't true.there are points and moments where it's too late to change.people can go too far and it's too late to go back.

And the whole "everyone deserves a second chance"is just not true.not everyone deserves a second chance.it's the harsh truth. Not everybody deserves or needs a second chance.it's life.

Like guys,the story is gonna end with shigaraki dying and the villians are obviously gonna be in lifetime sentences in jail.

This isn't a fairy tale,or Naruto,or Fanfic.

Like why do you want the villians to stay alive so bad? they're not getting redemption arcs.they made it clear they don't wanna change.

Also funny how Hawks had abusive parents and a bad childhood like Dabi but unlike Dabi,he actually wanted to be a hero and wanted to help people, rather than kill and hurt people.really shows how much more mature Hawks is.

And you and the rest of the villian fanclub ruin the villians for me,but always saying"WE WANT SHIGARAKI AND THE LOV TO BE REDEEMED"when that clearly isn't gonna happen.the villians won't be redeemed or made into good guys.

Come on guys,get your head out of the clouds.the villains are just gonna keep on killing people and hurting innocents and destroying many.

Sometimes killing someone is putting them out of their misery.

When a person doesn't wanna be saved or redeemed,you can't keep on trying to do that.there are people who are clearly too far gone.whatever chance they had at redemption is gone.

Like these kids should be aware of that.they're gonna keep on killing and hurting innocent people and destroying homes and places and causing destruction.

Me and the rest of the villain fanclub would like to disagree, ignore whatever you just said and continue on actually read the story, instead of making bullshit theories about how villains will be killed, or serve their lifetime in jail.

I do agree on the point you made, and the fact that not everyone deserves a second choice. People like Muscular, as we saw, do not deserve a second chance after all. It is still not okay to kill them, but Izuku makes a damn effort to try to understand whether there is something which is salvageable in him, and he finds nothing. But I do repeat: it is still not okay to kill him for it. There is no time when killing someone is putting them out of their misery. That's an arbitrary deprivation of life, and what misery are we talking about here?

As for me personally, I would like the villains to stay alive purely because Twice, who is one of my favourite characters, has been killed by a hero, and there is no consequence for it. So if death does not bring change, I suppose the contrary will - which means that in order to break out of the status quo (which is fucked up), there need to be a change in dynamic. That change comes with the villains surviving, and actually talking about how there is a steady reason as to why they became villains in the first place, and which is that society failed them. This is why, villains should not be made into good guys. They do not want to be good guys. As Steve Rogers said, they are not looking for forgiveness, and way past asking for permission. What they want is revenge. And let me correct you here, nor me nor the VF (Villains' Fanclub) ever said that they innocent, we just like them the way they are. We ain't condoning murder here, be careful because there is a very slight thread you are walking on and I'm trying to actually reign myself in about it.

Furthermore, I love bringing this up, my favourite manga panel is this:

So, yes, we need destruction in order to make it anew and better. This is the same principle Eren uses in AOT. Destroying the old to create the new (even when Shigaraki just does not see enough in hindsight to see the new part).

As for Hawks, I kept this as the last point just to make a point: Hawks is not more mature than Dabi or Shigaraki nor he is less of a victim. They all grew up in the fucked up standards of a society which had no place for them, but where Hawks had the opportunity to redeem his father and carry out a mission of the greater good, Touya and Tenko never had that option from the beginning. As well, I do remind you that both Tenko and Touya, before their respective tragedies wanted to be heroes, help people and be themselves, be accepted by their fathers and feel accepted. And furthermore, I remind you that Hawks is the one hero that killed someone in cold blood, with no remorse for it and no will to help that person instead.

I don't know what your conception of hero is, and I'm not telling which one it should be, but as someone already said: the moral of the story is not that 'You can't save everyone', but instead it is that 'there will come a time when you'll understand that there are people you can and cannot reach, and some of them will need to be saved, while others won't, but it is your job to figure out whether there is someone to be saved there'. There is no really a reason you should listen to me, but it is what it is: and heroes shall rise to the sun, and the villains shall perish, so let's see, at the end, who is the one left standing.

108 notes · View notes

deathvsthemaiden · 3 years

Note

ok wait after u sent me that ask i have to know ur top books!!! dw if u don't feel like it but i would love to hear them 🌷

This is so sweet and considerate! Thank you Eva, you gave me 5 so I’ll try to keep it to that # as well 💖🐰 off the top of my head:

🌷 The Stormlight Archive series, especially the second book, Words of Radiance. Stormlight is like 4 books + 2 novellas right now, and is projected to be 10 books and ???novellas eventually. And on top of that each main book is 1000+ pages and while you can read Stormlight on its own, most of the other books by the author, Brandon Sanderson, are part of this larger fictional universe called the cosmere. Each series takes place on a different planet, and if you are invested in the whole cosmere, there’s Easter egg references to other series in other series. So like! While I rec these books often, most people understandably don’t take me up on it wgshshh 🤭 Sanderson’s non-Stormlight books are all MUCH shorter but also much more flawed imo. Like I wouldn’t count him among my favorite authors were it not for Stormlight. anyway I’m a die hard fantasy fan so the length didn’t deter me, and I picked these up because a friend told me the world building in these books was genuinely unique instead of the typical very lazy maps composed of like. Fantasy Russia and its hostile mysterious neighbors Fantasy General East Asia and Fantasy Africa lol. and she was right! The world building is exquisite and refreshing and almost every character is canonically of color. They live in a society with an eye color based caste system and it’s.., so hard to sum up this massive series with four main characters and a ridiculous(ly fun) amount of plot lines, so I’ll cut this short and say 1) the first book, The Way of Kings, is highly expository but the ending is so so worth it, and if you enjoy the ending you’ll find merit in continuing with the series 2) Words of Radiance is my favorite book so far partially because I haven’t read the newest, Rhythm of War, yet, and also because it’s the book with the most scenes that solidified Kaladin Stormblessed (one of the main characters) as one of my favorites of all time. Another one of the best things about this series is how Brandon Sanderson portrays mental health in very natural ways, and it makes Kaladin’s growth so incredibly soothing to follow (I MEAN. He has low points that sometimes hit too close to home, but it makes you root for him harder) he really is just. Truly my definition of a hero, if we wanna get cheesy about it, and I had to pick one solid example. I love him so much this isn’t even the tip of the iceberg as to why 😭!

🌷Jane Eyre. Silly frivolous teenaged girl that I am this book swept me off my feet when I first read it and I condone every problematic aspect of it❤️ (I DONT ofc but like! I love drama and being played like a fiddle by narratives and the book delivered on both fronts! And it couldn’t have without its unsavory plot twist soooo 😙💖) (the hate this book and especially one specific character gets is funny to me just because like. Hate for the former (imo) usually stems from people taking the book too seriously while simultaneously missing the point (JE and du Maurier’s Rebecca (highly influenced by the former) are oft considered loose Bluebeard retellings for a reasonnnn!) and hate for the latter is usually just like. Warranted and then taken over the top like... he’s just a fake funny little man you guys :( and the book would’ve been boring if he wasn’t so twisted and out of touch and passionate ): not to mention I do personally in a mean ish way think it’s funny how for some people this character is one of the worst examples of men they can imagine. Like good for Them! I don’t want them to have lower standards for horribleness in people But also omg 🤭 it just reminds me of how... irony of all ironies, I’m semi frequently told I’m too harsh on real life men and then when I love twisted ones in books (for being funny and entertaining and good solid characters) I like. get the most interesting side eyes (whether figurative or literal) bwjswnhshe anyway I have nothing against Austen, I definitely enjoy her, but from what I’ve read so far, I prefer the Brontës a lot more... I need adventure! Show me horror show me rot etc etc❤️ also I’m. A stupid sucker so the fact that the book was Charlotte Brontë’s attempt to write a plain looking lady protagonist and to make her praiseworthy and virtuous and worthy of spellbinding romance makes me... 💗💓💕

🌷Keturah and Lord Death — Martine Leavitt. I haven’t seen it officially stated anywhere but to me it’s p clear this book is a retelling of/highly inspired by Godfather Death (the Grimm tale) Very simple, predictable but effective plot, and the characters are just. So much fun. From my url you can probably tell I love stories in which women (or anyone but you know. Death and the Maiden is its own trope for a reason) outsmart/face off against death. If they also k*ss, when done right, I think that’s swell as well.

🌷A Thousand Splendid Suns — Khalid Hosseini. By far the heaviest book I will mention in this ask, and I don’t rec it willy nilly for that and a few other reasons. It’s a forever fave to me because I read it at the exact right time in my life, where I was like... noticing a ton of things irl and things at home were tumultuous, and when I saw very similar things unfold in this book while I was being silenced and made to feel crazy by the adults around me, it meant so much to me to see reality as I was experiencing it in real time reflected back at me via this novel. The context of the story is wildly different from my own life and the stakes the characters face are far higher, and it is if I remember right mostly a novel about the horrors of war, which isn’t something I pretend to have any firsthand experience with, but! It was legitimately cathartic to read when I read it, and it especially meant a lot to me at the time that the author was a grown man. Not to mention how my mother is not and never has been a reader, and somehow the one and only book I ever managed to get her to read was this. Hilariously she got mad at me for only (“only”) reading depressing things (there’s... a grain of truth to that but she doesn’t need to know! 🤫) but also... she was hooked I could tell! (I got all tmi explaining this one gag I’m so sorry)

🌷A Slight Trick of the Mind — Mitch Cullin. Retirement-era Holmes! Holmes as an old man! A sad old man who keeps bees!! It’s the novel the movie Mr. Holmes was based off of (haven’t seen it yet) and I was not expecting it to get me all sentimental like it did 🤨😪 but anyway it’s like. A prolonged character study and explores some of the most interesting (to me, anyway) parts of Holmes that are only lightly touched upon in canon, like his occasionally huge follies when navigating his few close relationships and how he copes with them afterwards, his fatigue at the random injustice of the world, how he’s often mistaken both by characters that surround him and people irl as a man without feelings, etc etc. like there’s no Dr. Watson or Mrs. Hudson in this book, and the people he interacts with are almost entirely original characters, but as I listened to the audiobook it barely occurred to me to miss Watson and Hudson (I know! 😦) and the author’s original characters interacted with Holmes so believably that I sometimes forgot they weren’t ever Doyle’s. Def recommend to any flexible Holmes fan that’s not a total stickler for canon (though you don’t actually have to know much about Holmes to read this book and enjoy it! 🐝)

🌷Sleepless — Sarah Vaughn + Leila del Luca. I began with the longest book, so let me end with the shortest. It’s a 2 volume long graphic novel series and that it’s so short is the only long standing, legitimate complaint I have of it! Gorgeous art, really effectively written romance, a dark skinned girl who gets to be the proactive, lively protagonist and stunning, pined after love interest at the same time, a cast of characters that is majority of color, the perfect %-age of drama and angst etc etc. if you can find it via your library or online or smth, you can knock it out in one sitting and leave the experience eternally altered in the funnest way 👁👄👁

Honorable mentions: The Botany of Desire — Michael Pollan, Troubling Love — Elena Ferrante, The Girl from the Garden — Parnaz Foroutan

#asks #book recs #wasn’t sure if you’d read Jane Eyre before so I was vague abt it qgzhshshs #long post

10 notes · View notes