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indiavolojones · 4 years

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what do you think the history between simeon and the sinblings is? like both parties hint at there having been a long standing friendship and theyre all on amicable terms with e/o even after the War (tm) maybaps left-on-good-terms-exes luci/simeon?? ex pet sitter / assistant /subordinate angel in training?? whatre your thoughts ?

hmmm!! I have a lot of logistics I haven’t worked through yet, but if you want to read an absolute dumpster fire of thoughts, it’s under the cut:

as it stands, I think that the only reason they’d send someone like Simeon along with a loose cannon kid like Luke is that Simeon is amazingly competent/devout. I’ve written about it before, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the Celestial Realm sent Simeon 100% with the intention of being a spy/to make sure Diavolo’s not up to any shenanigans.

(w/the added bonus of getting to see how Lucifer/the sinblings are all doing/if the Celestial Realm should be worried.)

the best way to keep their relationships intact post Celestial War would be if Simeon didn’t participate at all! like, if he was around near the beginning, but maybe he was unable to participate in the actual battle where Lucifer n the brothers fell. that way he could at least have some kind of plausible deniability in their eyes/wouldn’t be known to them as actively trying to shoot them down or be responsible for Lilith’s death lmaooo

here are my completely pulled outta my ass headcanons until someone gives me better ones lol (WARNING: IT GOT SUPER LONG LMFAO)

*additional warning, I didn’t do any prior research, this is straight up all from my dumb brain, so if it clashes w canon, whoops???

Lucifer: ALRIGHT *CRACKS KNUCKLES* I’ve expressed my headcanons before that I think Lucifer probably had a big ol Thing with Michael, and Simeon probably just knew about it. I think that Simeon had a big ol boner for Lucifer just like the rest of the Celestial Realm.

He’s obviously cautious at first because Lucifer is a demon now, and exhibits a lot more violent tendencies, but he’s mainly interested in the relationship that Lucifer has with Diavolo because the reports of Lucifer aligning with the Future King of the Devildom could potentially be a VERY BAD THING… It’s gotten a little more tense now that they’re… here. at RAD, but overall, he’s surprised to find out that Lucifer, while still an ornery old man, seems to fit in with the Devildom with ease/loosened up a little. If I’m still going by my above “Simeon is a casual spy” theory, then I think Simeon would be even more pleased!

Lucifer @ Simeon at all times is like /SUSPICIOUS STARE, even if Simeon is like, come now, Lucy. They have ex-boyfriend energy even if there was never any actual dating. Simeon is now able to tease Lucifer, unlike their time in the Celestial Realm where Lucifer had an entire tree up his ass. now it’s a more reasonable branch.

Mammon: THERE’S ANOTHER ASK ABOUT MAMMON AND SIMEON IN MY INBOX THAT I’D LIKE TO FINISH, but I love love loooove Simeon and Mammon being acquaintances. They knew each other in the Celestial Realm, again, not besties, but I don’t see Simeon being particularly close to any of the brothers except maybe Asmo. The biggest thing that makes me laugh is that I can see Simeon/Mammon talking about Lucifer in the Celestial Realm/at RAD about Simeon’s crush on Lucifer, but to Simeon’s chagrin.

Mammon @ Celestial Realm: he’s an asshole, you know.

Simeon: lovely.Mammon @ RAD after seeing Simeon meet Lucifer again: … he’s still an asshole.

Simeon: lovely.

Mammon may be one of Simeon’s favorite brothers, because despite the greed, his ardent love for his family warms Simeon’s angel heart ;~;

Levi: My own personal headcanon for Levi (and I’d really like to finish up writing my fic/meta for him) is that he was an angel in charge of guarding secret beasts at the bottom of the ocean! (and was a beast himself) So while he spent a majority of time in the human realm, it was in the ocean where he’d maybe get to like, see humanity from their boats a la little mermaid and ariel watching eric from the boat/on the shore? So spent like, 93% of his time alone, and the other 7% was reporting up to the Celestial Realm.

It was a prestigious job, an honor–but was lonely, and Levi hated it. Simeon probably sees him as someone that works in another department but also like, has no personal opinion because he’s never spoken to the other–but he has heard of Leviathan’s might, of course. Present time… Simeon is baffled by all of the brother’s changes, but he has no idea how to make the connection between the mystical sea guardian Leviathan to the otaku brother that never leaves his room? regardless of Levi’s ranking in the brothers, Levi is his least threatening/least assuming to Simeon. He can also see that Levi is kind, despite all his… strange quirks, so he likes him fine! :D

Simeon also has a reputation among the angels, so Levi probably knews of him too! There was no reason for Simeon to talk to him when they were angels, and there’s honestly no other reason for Simeon to talk to him now. It’s probably because of the exchange program trying to make them friends or something, but there’s… he’d never actually want to be friends with Levi, so that’s stupid.

(He doesn’t mind when Simeon talks to him about things, though, so it’s nice. Even if he’s sus of it.)

Satan: Since Satan was born after the fall, I feel like Simeon would know this brother the least! He’s incredibly curious to meet “Lucifer’s Wrath”, having heard many reports about this in heaven. He’s probably pleasantly surprised to see that Satan is far more charming than the initial reports of savagery from when he was first born. Simeon sees a lot of Lucifer in him, but there’s a more wild/freer nature to him than Lucifer’s iron will @ all times.

All in all, not a bad devil, but Simeon is reasonably watchful of him at all times due to his history. They get along fine in classes/they’re perfectly civil with each other! Satan probably thinks that Simeon watches him with a bit more interest than comfortable, but he also gets it. Satan wants to see Simeon get riled up though, out of scientific curiosity :3c

Asmo: This one is a BLATANT indulgent headcanon, not much canon to back it up except for that one time that Simeon said Asmo is still as beautiful as he was in heaven sflkasdkf. No idea what Asmo did before, but I’d like to imagine Simeon and Asmo were actually friends! Asmo’s beauty was widely regarded, and perhaps they would talk in passing? About Lucifer in most cases, lmao, but sometimes they’d chat.

Their distance when reunited in the Devildom is 100% Asmo being flippant about the fall, and being self conscious in front of his old friend about how much he’s changed. Asmo being torn between being upset to hear if Simeon thinks less of him for being who he is/aggressively “uncaring”. Who cares what anyone thinks of him, you know? He knows he’s beautiful. (But Simeon knew him when he was loved without being a sexual creature, and that… stings.)

Simeon thinks while Asmo has definitely picked up less than delightful personality traits, is actually… happy to see that Asmodeus still has his family around. He’s happy to see the other seems at ease, even if he doesn’t truly know the depths of Asmo’s insecurities. It’s a little offputting to have Asmo treat him flippantly/deny their past, but hey, he understands. There’s a lot of history between them, both their own and the sins of others. deep down, Simeon genuinely adores Asmo, and Asmo is CONFUSED by the fact that Simeon is trying to act like nothing’s changed when everything has! how dare he! is he mocking asmo! rude!

(somethin like that, idk)

Beel: Simeon worries about Beel’s ability to eat anything and everything as much as the next person. The gluttony is hard for him to stomach, being a holy prick and all, but Beel as a personality is obviously soft and tender, and Simeon thinks that’s sweet.

in current times, Simeon makes some great fuckin’ snacks, he loves Simeon. Simeon just seems like a pleasant dude, and Beel’s never really that interested in him past like, basic civil decency. Which is pretty funny ajskdjfas Beel’s memories of the Celestial Realm all probably revolve around his family/when Lilith was alive, so he’d distantly remember Simeon but it’s.. hard. that time is hard for him.

Belphegor: In the Celestial Realm, Beel and Belphie where honestly like… Lucifer’s kid brothers that he may have seen or interacted with a few times in passing. In present canon, Simeon is Very Aware of Belphegor. The biggest threat of the brothers at this point in time, especially after all of the murdering and timeline switches. He may not admit it, but he is keeping a Close Eye on Belphie, regardless of his sudden shift to adoring MC.

Belphie probably knew about Simeon, just because of Simeon’s rank but again, they’re… little brothers. (I’d love to see them being portrayed as a little bit older than Luke during the Celestial War? Just angsty teenagers Belphie and Beel.) Belphie has been distrustful of angels since the Celestial War, and it probably carries into present canon. Especially because Simeon watches him with a careful eye and Belphie isn’t fucking blind–but hey, he gets it too. He did plan to destroy the human realm.

I can see Belphie being the only brother to actively dislike Simeon–he’ll be civil at combined Lucifer/Diavolo threat for Lucifer’s sake, but also Belphie is a sour bitch and thinks Simeon is the snakiest one of them all. (not true, belphie, you’re projECTING!!!) obviously, this is all never spoken out loud and they all just exist near each other. cautiously.

lmfao because it would be like,

Beel: look at these sandwiches Simeon gave me!

Belphie: whatever.

LASTLY I’D LIKE TO @canonlucidia BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MANY GOOD IDEAS, AND I’M SURE THEY COULD CONTRIBUTE SOMETHING MUCH BETTER!!!!!!

#ch: all #ch: simeon #hc #writing

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darthstitch · 5 years

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Headcanons a.k.a. The Magic Frying Pan of Grace

YES, YES, YES to your headcanons @tygermama and also:

1. Basically, the confrontation between the Idiot Twins pretty much recreated nearly every painting of St. Michael vs. the Devil ever made, the difference being that the grief and pain on Michael's face was pretty clear and the words: "I'M NOT GOING TO DRAG YOUR STUBBORN ARSE BACK TO HELL YOU BLOODY IDIOT! I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF YOU'RE HAPPY HERE ON EARTH!"

And then, more calmly, in his typical deadpan tones: "Also, I have a spy mission to complete for my human family, very hush hush, very important, not everything revolves around you, all right?"

So of course, Lucifer being Lucifer, his first reaction was: "Spy mission? You're bloody James Bond?!"

"On occasion. Sometimes, I'm just a tailor with rather unusual skills."

Wings were also involved in this scene, wherein four people witnessed the only real difference between the twins. Michael's wings were the color of a night sky speckled with stars; his twin's, of course, were the luminescent silver-white that were part of the reason he'd been named Lightbringer.

2. There were exactly four witnesses to this scene: Chloe, who already knew what her partner was, after the whole debacle with Marcus Pierce/Cain; Eggsy, Harry Hart and Merlin - the latter two having seen everything from the video feed transmitted by the Kingsman-issue glasses.

Eggsy's reaction was: "Somehow, I'm not surprised m'favorite knight's an actual Archangel. Also explains your thing with cats and why you never seem to get your suits wrinkled, no matter what, bruv."

Harry's comment: "That explains the armor and the sword when I first met you. Carry on, then."

Of course, Merlin promptly had kittens and had to fortify himself with copious amounts of tea. Eventually Code Archangel was going to be just as dreaded as Code Excalibur.

3. It comes as no surprise that Michael is generally more low key and less flamboyant than His Formerly Infernal Featherbrained Nibs. He's had twenty years spent among humans, trained as a spy and he'd spent most of those years with amnesia, believing he was just another ordinary man with the bad luck not to remember his past prior to joining Kingsman. He's used to wearing glasses, having figured out early on that there's something about his direct gaze that can unnerve most people with the only exceptions being Roxy, Eggsy and Harry Hart. He also has the amazing ability to keep his Kingsman suits impeccable, something that drove everyone, especially Eggsy, quite bonkers, until they all figured out the "angel" thing.

4. Also, the following exchange happened:

"Bloody hell, Michael, you don't have to wear a tie all the time. Take it off, live a little, show a little bit of skin, yeah?"

It is a credit to how quickly the twins made up their differences with each other that everyone at LUX was promptly surprised to see two Lucifers mingling and charming everyone in sight, at least until Lucifer finally formally introduced his twin as: "This is my brother, Michael."

Dan's facepalm was epic: "Oh God, why are there two of you? WHY?"

Before Lucifer could answer, Michael beat him with: "The answer is 42."

"What?"

"42, Detective Espinosa. The answer to life, the universe and everything. Including why Sam -- er.... Lucifer and I are twins."

5. "Yes, Michael. I won't mind it if you call me... Sam. Again. Just keep it as 'Sam' all right?"

Actual hugs were involved in this exchange. And maybe a little bit of grace was involved in this reconciliation. As well as tears and whispered apologies and later on, feather preening, when they were both a little more composed.

"Sam, for the love of Dad, how did you let your primaries get in this condition?!"

6. Lucifer had hoped that Michael would absolutely not notice the "thing" between him and Detective Chloe Decker. Of course, he was dead wrong about that.

"Sam, we'd have an ACTUAL CONTINENTAL SHIFT before you'd finally get off that feathered arse of yours about your darling detective. Please, for the love of Dad, DO SOMETHING."

"IT'S BLOODY COMPLICATED! AND I REFUSE TO DO ANYTHING FOR THE LOVE OF DAD, I'M DONE WITH THAT NONSENSE -- "

"NO, it bloody well isn't. How many times do I have to hit you with the Magic Frying Pan of Grace before you finally get it?"

"The magic frying pan of what now?"

7. Michael, of course, does tend to dress himself like: "Lucifer cosplaying as Clark Kent" unless he can thankfully be out of "uniform," so to speak and relax in a comfortable black Henley, jeans and boots. It's also easier on everyone's nerves because that's how everyone else can tell the twins apart.

But they're not twins for nothing and occasionally, they will appear together in identical clothing. Michael has absolutely no problem adopting "Sam's" mannerisms when needs must. At this point, the only two people on earth who can tell them apart without fail are Chloe Decker and her daughter Trixie.

(Mazikeen is not of Earth and she can tell the twins apart, so she's an exception to this rule. Also Maze will laugh in your face if you ask her for help wrangling the Twins in Full On Mischief Mode.)

Yes, Michael has absolutely tried flirting with Chloe, knowing just how his twin does it and Chloe knows it's him every time. To be absolutely fair, he's only really tried this twice but he does find it heartwarming that Chloe immediately shuts him down with: "MICHAEL PERCIVALE I KNOW IT'S YOU." But she's laughing, as opposed to her normal reaction when Lucifer tries his flirt on.

8. Michael doesn't really try this again because he's seen his brother's heartbroken, puppy-dog expression each time, as if he's expecting that Chloe really can't tell them apart. It's also the reason why Michael figures out that Lucifer is now nursing the harebrained idea that maybe, just maybe, Chloe would be far better off falling in love with his "good twin."

Right. Michael also immediately determines that he will use the Magic Frying Pan of Grace to knock that cockamamie idea out of his idiot brother's head ASAP. It took a few good hard knocks and he eventually ropes Dr. Linda Martin to help him out with this, because one must aim carefully and swing hard, but they do succeed.

(Michael is a spy, so of course he eventually does find out about the good Dr. Linda. He carefully doesn't tell her that she is, in fact, an actual saint.)

9. Trixie Decker Espinosa will look at you with a ten year old's patented "Adults are so stupid, swear down" expression when you ask her how she can immediately tell Michael and Lucifer apart. They're twins, yes, but it's obvious which one is which. Michael is just as huggable and funny as his brother, and also an easy mark for chocolate cake.

Also:

"Michael, why do you call Lucifer 'His Formerly Infernal Featherbrained Nibs?'"

"He's my brother, child - it's a term of endearment. It suits him, doesn't it?"

There were giggles of agreement.

10. There's a night that everyone at Lux knows that they will never, ever forget. The Tribe was present, in full attendance, including little Trixie, who, of course, got child-appropriate drinks and snacks. Kingsman was represented, with Harry Hart, Eggsy Unwin and Roxy Morton, who was, in fact, flirting outrageously with Maze.

A certain mission had been successfully accomplished, a case closed to the satisfaction of the LAPD and Harry Hart was currently in possession of a Certain Sword that everyone had thought was simply something out of legend. So the whole gathering at Lux, with the rest of the L.A. party going scene, was actually a celebration.

The twins were going to sing. Amenadiel totally wasn't getting all teared up about this, because there was absolutely no reason not to cry over the fact that Michael and Samael were going to sing together for the first time in aeons. Really. He absolutely wasn't demolishing the Kleenex supply behind the bar.

The song that the twins chose was just perfect.

"There goes my heart beating

'Cause you are the reason

I'm losing my sleep

Please come back now

There goes my mind racing

And you are the reason

That I'm still breathing

I'm hopeless now

I'd climb every mountain

And swim every ocean

Just to be with you

And fix what I've broken..."

Chloe met the eyes of her partner and best friend and saw, clear as sunlight, all the love and the hope and the apologies that he really didn't need to make anymore. It was that moment that she knew they weren't going to be doing this whole ridiculous dance of two-steps-forward-twenty-steps-back anymore.

For everyone else, there was something achingly beautiful about that performance, something that prompted hands reaching out for each other, hugs, kisses for the lovers in the audience, smiles, a gentle swaying to the melody. It was, in fact, a careful, gentle feeling of grace that settled on everyone there.

Michael helpfully continued playing the piano when everyone later ended up on the floor dancing. Of course, he was perfectly happy to encourage any excuse for his brother to have his Chloe in his arms. Also, to encourage every opportunity for his twin to steal kisses from his favorite detective. Said detective actually didn't mind the kisses and did, in fact, manage to steal some of her own, leaving His Formerly Infernal Featherbrained Nibs with this priceless dazed and delighted expression on his face.

- end -

NOTES:

Ladies and gentlebeings, Michael Archangel - The Mighty Wielder of the Magic Frying Pan of Grace.

*gigglefits*

Also, I now have a Spotify playlist titled: "His Formerly Infernal Featherbrained Nibs." That is how bad this ridiculousness has gotten. It also looks good next to my Kingsman-inspired playlist. AHAHAHA.

#michael #lucifer morningstar #deckerstar #kingsman #the magic frying pan of grace #percival #i crack what i want #chloe decker #headcanon

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enemymine2000 · 6 years

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Bucklemming are at it again or so current interviews indicate. *sigh*

Of those who are beyond casual viewing I’m still more on the “hey, I’m along for the ride”-train, so I don’t know the in and outs of whatever knowledge fandom has accumulated about the whole production over the years. And mostly I don’t care, because well, I like the show, I like some of the meta and otherwise I don’t need to know.

But what I don’t get but care about is the whole Bucklemming effect (Singer included). In case of Singer I have the visual proof that he simply is not the director he should be according the near reverence he sometimes seems to get. I mean, need I say more than freeze frame and wire fights at this point?

So I don’t get it, why he has so much impact on the show if he doesn’t seem to be able to make an effort.

And whenever I see the name Eugiene in context with Supernatural I automatically get the creeps these days. Don’t know about her writing partner, only that he does seem to be more of the same or he would not do the thing with her. Eugiene totally rejects the reality of the show and substitutes her own. She never cares about the established lore only her vision. No research, no care about the end product, as long as she can push through whatever fad she wants this season. Like Nick - because let’s face it, her going on and on about wanting Lucifer back because he was oh, so redeemed in her eyes is the only reason anyone would have revived his meatsuit.

Because the lore was very clear about what happened to Nick even back in season 5. You let in an archangel, you ride a comet, you burn out - in Nick’s case literally, because he simply was not the true vessel. Lucifer left Nick for a nice Sam suit and even if Nick’s soul was still in there somewhere the body was damaged beyond help - the only reason it held together as long as it had was the constant healing being done by Lucifer.

So, I somewhat could get behind Crowley obtaining what was left of the body, fixing it up with some demonic engineering, but Nick still occupying that vessel?! No. Boy was dead on arrival. Tethered to his body as long as Lucifer was riding him, probably because of the pesky little consent rule, but once Lucifer jumped ship the tether would have been gone. So would have Nick.

I know that now that Nick is back people are discussion the consent issue again, because well Crowley shoved Lucifer back into the Nick suit, so since Nick is now alive and relatively well he must have been there to give consent again. Or something like that. Originally - back in season 12 - I thought that Crowley could shove Lucifer into the Nick suit because Lucifer already had been given consent once and Nick never rescinded that. And now the body was emtpy anyway.

We know that angel rules are bendable at best. The Sacred Oath was definitively made up by angels themselves and interpreted as they saw fit - because let’s face it Chuck himself did not care about it or he wouldn’t have this nice little anecdote about Mary pretending nothing ever happened between them (and Christianity never would have happened) or his ill-fated relationship with Becky. Cas fell in pretty much any way imagineable or is assumed to have done by the entire universe (and alternative ones), still he was Chuck’s favorite. Nephilim are said to rip everything apart and yes, Jack opened portals to different universes, and still the waitress nephilim hadn’t been on anyone’s radar but Metatron’s - and he needed a nephilim dead for the spell to close Heaven’s gates. Gadreel could trick Sam into giving consent, without Sam even knowing that he was being possessed.

So what I’m saying is that we only know that consent needs to be given once and that probably enough force of will of the original body owner can force an angel out again. But we don’t know that if consent is never rescinded a body could not be repossessed at any time. We don’t know if the origical owner still needs to be inside. We only know that the body should be functional - see Rafael’s original vessel. See a fixed Nick suit. As demons like Ruby have shown us a functional body can be a braindead one. Braindead equals no soul inside - which is why Cas had been considered braindead that one time he sigiled himself across the country and woke up in the hospital. Okay, demons don’t have consent issues. But we don’t actually know if the same is not true for angels. We only know that angels believe to have to ask for consent beforehand. So it could actually be more of another angel code of conduct thing than an actual universal rule. Like the Sacred Oath. I mean if consent truly was an issue for angels, Michael should have been expelled from Dean’s body the minute Dean realized that Michael was going back on the deal. Instead we just accept that he needs to extent great force of will, to practically battle him within his mind if not given outside help by whatever the rest of TFW come up with.

So, yeah, I could totally suspend disbelief for Lucifer being shoved back into a previously used and now empty meatsuit. Braindead and already well-worn, improved by demonic engineering to actually hold up now.

I could also suspend disbelief (and have to because, well, duh, the show went there) that Nick’s suit somehow made it out fully functional even after the ganking of Lucifer. I can however not suspend disbelief that Nick somehow was inside all those years. That he survived the apocalypse, that he further suvived the years in storage for Crowley’s plotting, that he survived the engineering process which took him apart on a molecular level to improve every single cell in his body to hold the actual devil imprisoned, that he survived the subsequent repossession including Lucifer’s need for torturing everything and everybody he could get his hands on - which during his imprisonment would be Nick only - and then on top of it all survive an actual stabbing event with an archangel blade that was enough to kill Lucifer. As I said the body I could get behind. It was reinforced by measures beyond my imagination, so stitch it up, hook it up on some machines and it would be functional for another use. Maybe the body is actually non-killable now. Who knows. But Nick - guy’s been dead for 8 years. Don’t know where his soul went and don’t care. As tragic as his life story was, he let in literal Satan. So, I’m not bummed about his fate either way. But now thanks to Bucklemming we have to deal with a walking, talking Nick. Because they just wanted Lucifer - or at least Mark P. - back in some capacity. I hope to everything holy that this doesn’t turn out to be actual Satan again, because that fucker should stay dead. He doesn’t even deserve a sleeping place in the Empty. Actual Satan can not be redeemed and has done nothing ontoward luckily. Sadly Bucklemming don’t think so. They think he is just misunderstood, just want their pet-devil back and forge familial bonds with his son. Or some other nonsense. Because Lucifer never cared about Jack. All he cared about was the potential power he could gain from having an archangel-nephilim at hand. Lucifer always wanting to upstage his father and with Jack at his side he might have had comparable power levels at his disposal. He actually stated as much at the end of season 13. Like in actual text. So no, hard pass on Lucifer redeeming himself.

But Bucklemming have a hard-on for the guy. And for reasons I don’t get, they actually have the power to go against the book again and again and simply write their headcanons into actual canon. Even though the actual showrunner has wildly different visions. Aided are Bucklemming by director Singer, who doesn’t care for doing his research about motivations, who is totally okay letting actors who admit to not knowing the over-all story until way after the fact ad-lib to their heart’s content and shuffle lines around, even when that would make those lines OOC. The same director who has now canonically and meta-wise contradicted himself with lazy freeze frames. (Thanks “French Mistakes”.) Whyt do those three have on the rest that they can run buckshot over the product as they wish, without a care if they hurt the product or not. And they do hurt it. They make it inconsistent, they make it look ridiculous on screen and in pr. Oh, thankfully the rest of the writers know their craft and seem to actually care so it always somehow worked out in the end. But the seasons are now shorter, the percentage of Bucklemming has risen and inconsistencies have shorter time to be retconned. So, yeah, this is going to hurt, won’t it?

#spn #Bucklemming wank #getting it out there so it doesn't torture my brain anymore #pr is not showrunning #but pr can unsettle the audience

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