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miru5llec · 3 years

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Theories about seers and their powers in the next books

(+my scrambled thoughts)

I do not understand the people who still think Elain is boring or weak. At the moment she’s one of, if not the most interesting character that we haven’t yet seen their story in the series.

People are talking as if Elain is not gonna finally pop off in the next book which is 100% hers. So why are we still discussing this. No heroine of SJM was weak, let’s make that clear. Not Lysandra, not Yrene, not Elide, not Manon and especialy not her main characters Aelin, Feyre, Bryce and Nesta. So what makes you think that Elain is going to be boring in her own book?

Let’s remember the fact that SJM never wrote about seers or their powers in her previous books, so all of this is new to us as readers and it can be quite overwhelming because we don’t know the depth of their powers. They were just briefly mentioned: in tog we have this gem “She knew they’d be powerful: seers had once used bloodbane as a drug to view spirits from other worlds.” and also this “I’m afraid I can’t be of service,” Mort sniffed. “If you want an instant answer, you should find yourself a seer or an oracle.”

In CC however, we meet a quite interesting and mysterious creature, also known as a Sphinx, called The Oracle. So to make a little comparison between an oracle and a seer:

Oracle = a person acting as a medium through whom advice or prophecy was sought from the gods

Seer = a person who sees; observer. a person who prophesies future events; a person endowed with profound moral and spiritual insight or knowledge; a wise person or sage who possesses intuitive powers

Basicaly, an oracle and a seer both have sight powers, but seers have a little something more.

And also, The Oracle from CC is a very interesting character and I wonder if SJM will drop little hints at Elain’s powers through her in HOSAB.

“Behind the smoke, a figure moved. “I wondered when the Shadow of Death would darken my chamber,” a lovely voice said. Young, full of light and amusement—and yet tinged with ancient cruelty.”

“Ask me your question, and I shall tell you what the smoke whispers to me.”

“Once the gods speak, I become the conduit through which their words pass.”

(Take a look at this post too about possible seer powers that we might see in Elain’s book)

SJM most probably took advantage of the fact that we don’t know much about seers and teased us about it: Amren saying not to underestimate her, Rhysand telling Feyre that there’s more to Elain than it seems, the little hint that Elain may have gotten out of the Cauldron with more powers that we know of.

I truly think SJM wanted to keep Elain and her abilities a secret. She did that purposefully. We can all agree that Elain is not the type of heroine that would wield a sword, but rather daggers and knives, so where it lacks in combat, it makes up in magic skills.

And also, the Cauldron has such interesting reactions to Elain and maybe we will learn why soon enough.

In the acotar universe, the only seer that we know of is Elain. There are some theories that the Bone Carver, Stryga or even Azriel’s mother are seers, but the only one who is actualy confirmed is Elain. So here it truly depends on what SJM wants to do with the seers. How rare she wants to make them.

Maybe there are more seers that we’re not aware of, maybe there are some seers in the Prison because they messed up and changed the course of history unintentionally, did something bad and thus were sent there. Maybe there are witches who also have sight powers.

For example, in tog the Blueblood witches had a vision of the Witch Kingdom under Ironteeth rule. They were the ones that mustered the Clans to fight against the Crochans, forming the Ironteeth Alliance. So maybe they have sight abilities too. AND the most interesting fact is that the blueblood matron also represents the maiden aspect of the Three-Faced Goddess (👀👀), and therefore will always be a relatively young witch.

That’s the point. We don’t know anything about seers or their lore. That’s why I’m so excited about the next book. Seers are always secondary characters who help the hero, never the main character. They’re always brushed off after they serve their purpose. And it will be so awesome because, we, as readers, normaly follow the hero in their journey and we never know what’s gonna happen next so whenever the MC makes a choice, we see the immediate consequence. Well, having a seer as a MC will probably change that because they see every foreseeable future and so every choice they make is to prevent or to help reach a certain vision. They already know the consequences of their choices. So realy they just need to decide which choices to dodge and what choices to keep. It’s very tricky if you think about it.

And acotar 5 is Elain’s book. Not only because of all the crumbs in acosf and what SJM said in all of her interviews and lives, but because of Elain’s character. What would be the point of dragging Elain’s character through another book, leave again crumbs all over the story and again write one or two bonus POVs that have her as the main focus, just to give her the last book, when she already did all of this in acosf? And because of Azriel’s “secret”, that SJM talked about before Nesta’s book was out, being about Elain herself, the undeniable parallels between Wings and Embers and Azriel’s POV, it’s clear as day that Az will be the second MC and that elriel will happen.

No cuz let’s think a little bit about this. Both POVs clearly confirm a certain aspect of Elain’s journey. The Az pov for the forbidden romance (and also for confirming him as the second MC) and the Feysand pov for Elain’s character arc. (And the crumbs from acosf for the plot.)

Elriel is vital to the plot. Both Az and Elain have ties with the autumn court and Koschei at some degree and will resolve a certain conflict (The Blood Duel + the breaking of the mating bond + probably Beron’s death for the autumn court conflict and The Fourth Dread Trove for the Koschei plotline) And as SJM herself said: “I love happily ever afters, I thrive on them, and I think that anyone picking up my books will know that there is a happy ending, but my characters will have to work hard, and occasionally suffer greatly, to get it.” And who has to suffer the most to reach their happy ending if not Elain and Azriel.

#elain archeron #elain #elriel #acotar 5 #seer #seer powers #acotar

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tayegi · 6 years

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i have so many theories right now...what if the guys are just trying to win a bet set on the oc? or maybe jk just doesn’t realize he likes the oc and mistakes his own actions as platonic ones? also, as readers, we see the story through the oc’s eyes so we focus on that angst part at the end of chap9, but then again, the oc has stated multiple times to hoseok and so many people that her and jk would never be more. whatever she went trough there, jk could have been trough the same a million times.

ahhhh you guys are the best!!! srsly i am so honored to have so many thoughtful, lovely, incredible asks theorizing about the plot and what jk’s intentions are!!! i would love to respond to each and every one of them, but unfortunately, i am unable to confirm or deny anything!

But i think these are super interesting and i’ve read all of them, and i’d love it if other ppl did as well! MORE ASKS UNDER THE CUT:

Anonymous said:I know Hoseok wasn’t in this chapter but I feel like Hoseok is gonna play her like jk did and she’s gonna be left in the dust with no one and resort to being even more icy. Jungkook has a lot of problems and it’s really evident that he likes her in that way. Fuckbois are really something else man. They get scared of affection yet lead girls on and make them scared of it. It’s like a constant cycle of insecurity. Damn I wish she was with jimin. He would’ve provided all the love and affection

Anonymous said:lmao why is everyone assuming jk will never change and that he’s going to be an Evil Fuckboi™️ forever. like, we can see how the oc changed throughout the story, so why y’all thinking jk can’t do the same. the story isn’t over, there is more to learn, and the oc and jk have more development to go through. anyway, deep in my heart I’m hoping they’ll get a happy ending 💜

Anonymous said:Why do I get the feeling that Jungkook has slight romantic feelings towards the oc but his fear of not wanting to get hurt outweighs those thoughts. I don’t know though I might be completely off😫Thank you for the update!

Anonymous said:I tried reading the story in JK's POV and I cant help but feel as if he isnt the one at fault for making OC cry. Yes, he rejected her but he's known as a fkboy. He stated clearly that he didn't want a relationship, he thought OC knew that clearly. Thus he thought they were just friends. All the things he said was misinterpreted into a romantic way cause people kept forcing OC to view their relationship romantically. I felt that if ppl didnt do that, OC wldnt have developed feelings for him.

carlyangel123 said:Ok everyone is saying that Jungkook hasn't changed at all and I'm not saying like oh yall wrong or anything😂. But I think, based on Jungkook's showcase of clinginess and affectionate actions through the past chapters, that he HAS fallen for the OC. However, bc of his past (not wanting to go through another possible heartbreak), his assumption the OC would never like him, and just maybe insecurities that he's denying it and forcing himself to be indifferent like the OC did in the beginning.🤔🤔

Anonymous said:Nah nah nah nah lu i refuse to believe that everything jungkook did was all platonic but through oc’s eyes we saw as romantic. Im trying to remember everything he’s done for her and trying to see it from a platonic pov but i cant. So here’s my conclusion: jk likes oc but during the car ride and seeing his hand in hers he had a realization and became fearful of being hurt like he was before. Thats why he put his barriers up again CUZ LIKE HOW COULD THAT BE THE SAME JK I JUST ALDJSKAHALA

Anonymous said:Jin was an ass who only wanted sex, cheated on y/n and didn't care for her, many people think that Jk may've gone through something similar with his ex, but I think JK's ex was totally different, she was in fact... the opposite. Possessive, wanted to be with jk all the time, didn't let him breath, etc... That's why he doesn't want a relationship, he suffered the opposite extreme of what the oc suffered with jin, also this would mean the oc is the complete opposite to jk's ex aka why he likes her

Anonymous said:i’m analyzing NR again and just a theory of my own: jk’s relationship with his ex girlfriend started as a fwb type and jk was the one to develop feelings first, and at first it was good and then severely went downhill? this theory is probably far from correct, but i was just piecing together the fact that he hates hookup culture, but is able to engage in it with OC, maybe jk just wanted the physical emotion or OC reminds jk of his ex? anyways i’m enjoying the story so so much! best wishes lu 💜

Anonymous said:Wait so like OC got reminded of Jin when she met JK, so I thought that maybe JK saw himself in OC? Bc sometimes they REALLY think alike.. Idk man I just had this idea.. I LOVE YOU SO DAMN MUCH LU HAVE A NICE DAYYYY–❄️🐰

Anonymous said:I've been thinking about oc's relationship with seokjin and jk's with his ex gf. We don't know anything about her except two things: the oc reminded jk of her (as jk reminded her of seokjin) and the "don't leave me like she did" he said while drunk. If seokjin helped oc build who she is and what she wants in a relationship, we could say that maybe jk wants something that lacked in his previous relationship, like emotional support or a caring hand. It matches oc's Ice Queen reputation a bit to me

Anonymous said:Omg jks roues are definitely along the lines of “dont fall for anyone”

Anonymous said:so like, i feel as tho hyejin plays a more important role than we’re realizing. why does she seem so obsessed with jk if everyone knows he’s a fuckboy who doesn’t do relationships? why does she think she’s different? why does she think she has a chance? unless they already have a history we don’t know about...?? 🤔

Anonymous said:Personally, I wasn‘t that surprised about Jungkook not feeling the same way as OC. I don‘t blame him, he was honest from the very beginning with her. At the same time, I cannot blame OC either for feeling the way she does. Hookup culture leads you to believe that the person you‘re sleeping with should not care for you. I assume that OC interpreted the signals from JK in the wrong way, and thought he might love her when, in reality, he does care about her, but not in the way she wants. (1) ☀️

Anonymous said:JK has found smn he can talk to, and share smth else beyond sex. At the very end, I think OC might be the one who will push him outside his shell but not necessarily be the one he will fall in love with. (2)☀️

Anonymous said:I feel like oc and Jungkook might be on the same wavelength but because Jungkook clearly hasn’t gotten over his ex and whatever happened he might be pushing oc away. Plus the fact he even wants to stay friends with her is quite sweet in itself. It shows he genuinely cares about her, but probably isn’t ready to have any sort of relationship. You haven’t mentioned him having any female friends either so all of that skinship he does with oc might just be his way of being friendly??

Anonymous said:I feel like Jungkook is not over his ex and maybe he will end up with her, maybe he really does like the OC for the sex and the friendship. That's all.

Anonymous said:What if JK still likes his ex? :O

Anonymous said:Hummm sometimes I feel like in the end they're just going to be experiences for each other. I mean the OC and JK, maybe they will have none relationship at all, not friendship nor fuck buddies nor bf and gf...

dodoesdidwill said:Hyejin's line "You are really good at skating. I'm amazed" what? No way he was practicing after OC took him to skate, right? There must be something we don't know yet...

Anonymous said:Ok, if "New Rules" has taught me anything, it's to NOT judge a book by its covers. I judged Mijoo too harshly & things weren't as they seemed. Not repeating the same mistake with Kook. He was obviously hurt by someone in the past, just like the OC. Sooo... Maybe OC is not the only one with new rules? Maybe Kook was so hurt, one of his rules is to not fall in love again, or to ever put himself in a vulnerable position to be hurt again? Idk but I don't think he's that much of a dickwad

Anonymous said:Okay, so you said that we've been seeing JK through the OC's perspective and that we need to sort through the facts and her assumptions. What the anon who talked about JK having FWBs for the intimacy said really made sense to me and I thought about the fact that, if my memory serves me correctly, we've only seen JK with the OC. We have no way of knowing how he's acted in other FWB relationships. Maybe this is how he's been with all of them??? I dunno.

Anonymous said:i think new rules! jk likes OC too. this thing going on between them isn't just platonic. but the problem is, he really doesn't want to invest in a relationship, as some sort of defense mechanism (kind of like repression maybe?) i can't wait to find out more about his past and see exactly how it's correlating with his actions rn. I'm super hooked in your story lu! you never fail to deliver as always 💜

Anonymous said:I think jk is just as scared of what he feels for oc as oc is scared of what she feels for jk. Like I think oc already went through a ‘I need to protect myself from my feelings for him’ phase and I think jk is going through that now after their time at the hotel. I think he realized that he likes her a lot more than he realized and after coming back he’s trying to shut his feelings so he doesn’t go through whatever happened with his ex again

Anonymous said:JK said he hated hookup culture yet he partakes in it. My theory is that he might've done the same as OC has now done. Maybe had a sort of fwb relationship with his ex and subsequently fell for them, and they broke his heart. But again, idk if that's enough for someone to want to abstain from romantic relationships forever, though it does depend on the person. I'm probably wayyyy off but it's worth a shot :')

#new rules #anon #ladiesalute

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