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drewmoll03 · 1 day
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Just saw this short on YouTube, thought it was funny how it says "Beth's Daryl" 😂🥹🥹
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bethiscomingsoon · 9 days
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Official twd account new post ..
Are they trolling or teasing at this point ?
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galadrieljones · 18 days
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Daryl's Arrows: Symbolism, Pt. 1 (Green and White)
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It has been a while since I've made a TD post. I'm hoping to make a comeback these days, and in my first attempt to do that, I'd like to talk about a topic I've been paying attention to for several years now: the symbolic nature of Daryl's arrows.
Daryl's arrows change color over the course of the series, as I'm sure you've noticed. In the past, we've seen colors and color combinations including red, yellow, green, white, and black. Sometimes they're dirty. Sometimes they're tattered. Sometimes they're pristine. Sometimes they're seen and not used. Colors in TWDU always mean something, and Daryl's arrows are no exception. In this series of posts, I want to look at how Daryl's arrows are used as foils for his psychological state, and how they often reflect his relationship and symbolic proximity to Beth. As one of the most visually compelling characters in the series, Daryl and his vast inventory bear many clues in terms of how he feels and where he's headed. With Daryl, who is a stoic character, what we see is often much more important than what we hear.
First, just for reference, in case you're unfamiliar with the anatomy of an arrow, I'll be referencing two key parts in these posts: the FLETCHING (or feathered "wings" around the back of the arrow), and the NOCK (the, often colored, slotted tip at the end of the arrow, opposite the arrow point, aka the arrow tip, or arrowhead).
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The changing color of Daryl's arrows is not confined to just the fletching. His nocks change color as well and are equally important.
The Prison: Green
As is everything with Team Delusional, this analysis originates with Scott Gimple, and like so much else we are still striving to understand, episode 3.12 "Clear."
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If you look closely at the shot from above, you'll see Daryl's *new* crossbow, leaning against the gun rack on the righthand side of the screen. Daryl begins the series with a much simpler design. The pictured more advanced compound crossbow is given to him by Michonne and Rick, after they bring it back from Morgan's cache, which is like Gimple's magical well full of hints and symbols. Beginning in the very next episode "Arrow on the Doorpost," Daryl trades his old crossbow for the new one, which he will use *almost* (more on that later) exclusively for the remainder of the series, and which he still uses now (or did up until recently, when he lost it in Portland, ME).
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Daryl's *new* crossbow (pictured above) is special, because when it's given to him, it contains arrows with special, alternating green and white fletching, as well as green nocks. It's important that this crossbow and, more specifically, THESE arrows, are gifted to him, as opposed to being choices he made for himself, and I will talk more about choices soon.
"Clear" immediately follows the mini-arc in season 3 in which Daryl leaves the prison with Merle and then returns. The theme of coming "home" is pervasive in TWDU, particularly with Daryl, who, for much of his character arc, has seemingly been without one. Further, the act of making a decision to settle down, to stay in one place, to commit himself has unabashedly occurred to Daryl only two times over the course of the series: 1.) In the episode "Home," when he chooses to return to Rick and the prison, even if it means leaving Merle behind, and 2.) in the episode "Alone," when he chooses to stay and to "make it work" in the funeral home with Beth.
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Every other time Daryl has decided to "settle down" or to "stay" somewhere, such as Alexandria, the Commonwealth, and the Nest in France, it's either been because of inertia, coercion, obligation, or some combination of the three.
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Perhaps you can see by now that Daryl and decision-making are important factors to this character analysis. The truth is, Daryl is a passive character. He doesn't make many decisions that are driven by a strong internal motivation or code. He makes decisions because they're easy, because they're what he *should* do, or because they're what someone else told him or asked him to do. Very rarely does Daryl make a choice based on his own desires or his own code. He is reactive at times, ie: He makes emotional decisions driven by rage, revenge, annoyance, etc.. But these are not deliberate choices. They are passionate, in the heat of the moment, and he may even come to regret them or to change his mind.
We can see this clearly at the end of Daryl Dixon season 1, in which we really have no idea whether Daryl desires to stay in France or if he desires to go home. We don't know if he's going home simply because he thinks he should, or because he truly wants to, or because he just has some chip on his shoulder about staying. We don't even know if he considers the Commonwealth, or Alexandria for that matter, to be home, because he didn't choose either of those domains for himself. They were chosen for him, and he's just sort of been drifting in and out ever since. If anything, in the first season of DD, we learn that Daryl seems to be a man without a home, and a man without strong motivating factors to make choices, or to act.
We learn in Daryl Dixon that one very important potential motivational factor for Daryl that is entirely missing from his life is that of a family of his own. And no, I don't mean friends, or found brothers and sisters, or nieces and nephews. I mean a wife and children (his OWN children, not Rick's children).
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SO what does this have to do with Daryl's new crossbow? Well, first of all, Daryl's crossbow is gifted to him, a bit of "supernatural aid" to help him along on his hero's journey. The arrows, as well, are a gift. In the second half of season 3 and the first half of season 4, we see Daryl display unprecedented feelings of happiness and a focused purpose. He is given this chance, but ONLY once he chooses to stay.
In 3.10 "Home," Daryl makes his first major choice, which is to return to the prison, aka to return home. Once he starts using his new crossbow, he will then use the green and white arrows exclusively for the rest of season 3, all of season 4, and some of season 5 (until the episode "Spend"). The one major common denominator to this run is his proximity to Beth.
The color combination in these arrows is green and white, which parallels clothing and jewelry worn by Beth in the first half of season: Beth's earrings and her outfit in 4.1 "30 Days Without an Accident," and Beth's outfit in 4.2 "Infected."
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The "Beth lookalike" dead girl in "Infected" shows an interesting juxtaposition as well.
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In 4.4 "Indifference," one of my favorite examples of foreshadowing for Daryl and Beth, in a scene in which Daryl's arrows look very green against the verdant landscape, Daryl finds a rare piece of green jasper on the ground. As he's cleaning it off, Michonne initially responds suggestively, smiling, as if she knows something we don't. She says, "It's a good color. Brings out your eyes."
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Daryl responds quickly, correcting her to say that it's for Mrs. Richards, who has become ill. But this surprises Michonne. That's clearly not who she thought it was for.
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The piece of green jasper that Daryl finds looks suspiciously like the stone Beth wears in her earrings. Toward the end of the episode, Daryl can be seen studying the jasper pensively in the car while the rest of the team gets ready to go. This moment is rarely discussed, but I believe he is actually thinking about Beth when he holds the jasper that day, ready to return home from a long, hard journey. I also think Michonne might have known that something was going on. Of course, we may never know the truth on that, but Michonne is a romantic character, and if anyone was going to notice Daryl's feelings for Beth, it might just be her.
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Remember that green jasper is rare. It was chosen here for a reason. It is viewed as containing powers of protection and healing, as well as relief from obsessive behaviors and compulsions. You can read more about the properties and historical significance of green jasper here.
In any case, the color green is, of course, easily attributable to Beth, whose last name is green. This is specifically true when it's seen around Daryl. When it's seen around Rick, we might alternatively associate green with Hershel. But while Hershel might be Rick's "Greene," Beth is Daryl's "Greene." And when Daryl's arrows "trend" green, that means that her story and her relationship to him is creating psychological friction with his character on screen. It means, not only that she is "with" him, but that he accepts her there, and he is still the man he was trying to be at the time that he first chose the prison, and the time after the prison that he spent with her.
The connection between Daryl's arrows and Beth begins literally, but after "Coda," the connection becomes symbolic. We'll get there soon.
I also do want to point out that though this connection is somewhat subtle in season 3, once we get to season 4, with Gimple at the helm, the connection becomes much clearer and more overt. This supports the hypothesis that Beth and Daryl are Gimple's "pet" creation, something he always wanted to explore but never could, because they and their relationship are not a part of the comics. But via Daryl's arrows, he is able to keep their relationship alive in the background.
After the Prison: White
After the prison, when Daryl and Beth are physically together, and then we transition into Daryl's search for Beth in Atlanta, Daryl's arrows remain the same: alternating green/white; however, some unique shifts occur, in terms of emphasis.
Here's a shot from "Inmates," as Daryl pulls an arrow out of a walker's head near the train tracks.
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This shot is from "Alone."
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And here's one from "Consumed." This is one of my favorite shots of Daryl in the entire series.
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In all of these shots, the arrows, which alternate green AND white for fletching, are specifically arranged in front of the camera so that the fletching looks entirely WHITE. White arrows are angelic in nature, protectors. They accompany Daryl and Beth’s discovery of the deceased innocents from the bus, imploring faith that not all hope is lost, as some of the children lived. They accompany Beth as she shoots Daryl’s crossbow near the cemetery, once again calling on us to "have a little faith," as even though Beth is caught in a trap, she is rescued by Daryl. And as you can see in the shot above from “Consumed,” the two white arrows literally resemble the wings of an angel, balanced delicately on Daryl's shoulder as he gazes out over the city, eventually seeing the Grady van in the distance, a major clue.
Note that per the "Consumed" shot, we see this same arrangement, double-white, from two separate angles, showing its purposeful nature. The first, just Daryl from the side (above), the second, both Carol and Daryl, head-on (below). Though they mirror one another in body language, Carol looks down, unsure of her fate. Daryl looks straight ahead, a man of conviction.
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In "Consumed," Daryl is communicated as a hopeful, motivated man, helping Carol through her crisis of faith and disconnection from her purpose and identity as the two of them search Atlanta for signs of Beth. He finds and takes the book about overcoming child abuse, a clue that he is making conscious choices to get better, and he is entering a real path to renewal and self-improvemet, all thanks to his time with Beth. Note, too, that angels do not only flock to Daryl via his arrows. He is also protected in the falling van, by the crucifixes on the back windows, and the holy Mother Mary, watching over him from the dash. In the shot below (right), you can also see, once again, the duality of body language between Daryl and Carol. Daryl is braced, staring straight ahead, ready for anything, while Carol, in her crisis of faith, breathes heavily and cowers in fear.
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Carol endures bad injuries from the crash, which are worsened when she is hit by a car. Daryl, however, emerges without a scratch. This theme of protection and indestructibility, for Daryl, will return in the future. In the episode, Carol tells Daryl that he has "become a man" now, and we see him perhaps as driven and committed to any cause as he will ever be. That cause is finding Beth. You can see this once more very clearly in the final shot of the episode, in which even Noah notices, looking at him like “WTF did I just walk into?” For the third time, too, we see Daryl noticeably squared up, facing straight ahead in the shot, showing commitment and determination, while Noah's expression is unsure.
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Also, if you look closely at the shot above, you can see, one more time, a single white, angelic arrow, perched just above the dash.
Daryl shoots one more white arrow over the course of the series, but it's not for a very long time. In 6.15, "East," just before the group is ambushed by the Saviors, Daryl, angry about Denise, having had his crossbow stolen by Dwight in 6.6 "Always Accountable," goes out searching for Dwight to take his revenge. In the scene, Daryl wanders a clearing as the bright sun shines down upon him, directly reminiscent of the sun coming through the trees in "Them." So reminiscent, in fact, that it is the same exact shot, just inverted both horizontally and vertically and adjusted with a red filter. Quick aside: Below, you can see the original two shots, the lefthand shot from "East," the righthand shot from "Them."
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Now, here are the shots again, with the shot from "East" on the left, inverted once, horizontally and vertically. You can also see the red in how it colors the light filtering through the trees. This communicates that since Beth's death, which he was directly morning underneath the tree in the shot on the right, Daryl's character has been "upside down." He's messed up. What was right is now wrong, and what was wrong is now right, and his descent lies ahead.
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Michonne, Rosita, and Glenn come after him, to try and dissuade him. When they do, Daryl shoots an arrow right past Rosita's face and into a tree. That arrow, the last of the green/white arrows we will ever see, appears entirely white in his hand and foretells that in the confrontation to come, Daryl, unlike two of his brethren, will be spared.
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In my next post, I'll move on to Daryl's red arrows, focusing on Noah's death, 5.15 "Try" and 5.16 "Conquer," as well as 6.6 "Always Accountable," Denise's death and what this all means. I believe that, over the seasons, Gimple has found small ways in which to show that Daryl has been continuously protected by Beth's presence, but that, in his darkest hours, he is not always eager to accept it. 💫
I'm going to tag some other TDers in these posts, just for reference. If you'd like me to tag you in future posts, please just comment here to let me know, and I will! ❤️
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angelthefirst1 · 2 months
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Umm...
So...♾️♾️♾️
I just realised that the last episode of The Ones Who Live will air on RESURRECTION Sunday 🧐😵✝️
That is not a coincidence!
They could have picked any day to release the last episode, but chose that day!
The end (episode 6) of Rick's story beginning again (TOWL season 1 ) is on the same day that Christ's resurrection is being remembered...
The beginning is the end ♾️
When Rick is revealed at the beginning of the season, he is called Christ...
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Christ, is that him? Michonne nods yes...
Is it a play on words? Yes.
But it's also an eclipsed/hidden but very deliberate way to mark Rick as Christ.
The last episode will air on Resurrection Sunday. Fulfilling the beginning and end.
Beth and Rick's stories are intertwined often reversed, so this is intriguing to me!
I'm truly starting to think that this is the year we get Beth. Too many things are lining up including the fact that Beth (in real time) has been gone 10 years, while Rick (in show time) has been missing 10 years.
10.10 get well soon.
Do I think we will see Beth or a clue to Beth in episode 6 of TOWL?
Maybe...it's actually very possible due to resurrection Sunday.
Maybe we get a hidden coda, like Morgan, but this time the mask stays on.
Who knows... I'm excited to see, but what I'm more interested in is this beginning end pattern because what comes next (after TOWL ends) in TWD universe will be another resurrection.
Enter The Book of Carol.
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I pine for Summer ☀️
The last episode (episode 6) of TOWL, airing on RESURRECTION SUNDAY, is called The Last Time...
Emily released a song called Last Chance not long after she finished on (ended) TWD.
Many who heard the song Last Chance thought it sounded like Emily was writing it about Daryl and Beth, and she was.
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Emily's very first album (first = beginning) was released just after she left (ended) The Walking Dead, and Last Chance (which really indicates both Beginning and end) was a single on it. So, could the episode "The Last Time" be the signal for Beth's return or beginning?
It's all starting to line up.
The album, the song "Last Chance," is off, is called This Is War.
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In the comics, Andrea wakes from a gun shot to the head during the war with the Governor.
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The bullet just gazes her but knocks her unconscious. I am convinced Emily was referencing this war in the title of her album.
No doubt, the end of season 1 of Rick and Michonne's story will also lead to a declaration of This Is War with the CRM. I guess we will wait and see for that one, but we know war is building.
Now Rick wasn't the only one marked as Christ, in fact he was the second or "last" one marked as Christ in TOWL Gone.
The first one to be marked as Christ is...
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The sister that was left behind aka a representation of Beth.
Beth was marked as Christ here first (at the beginning of Gone) in the timeline, while Rick was marked as Christ last (near the end of Gone).
We see Rick on-screen before he gets marked as Christ, but Beth gets marked as Christ before we see her.
The time to finally see her again has to be close. Very close.
I also want to add one other extremely unusual thing I discovered, and it's in relation to the X eclipse that is coming up a week and one day after resurrection Sunday on April 8th.
For those who don't know, there will be a solar eclipse on April 8th in the US, and it's been nicknamed the X eclipse, because the path that the eclipse will take, makes an X in conjunction with the path of the last solar eclipse of 2017.
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How is this related to Beth and Daryl?
Well, remember the episode "Find Me" with Leah?
And the solar eclipse they look at together, while Leah all but repeats Beth's line of "Don't you think that's beautiful?"
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The eclipse in "Find Me" is the twin eclipse related to the upcoming eclipse the week after resurrection Sunday.
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Leah was a shadow of Beth, I would now even be bold enough to say she was a blocked or eclipsed version of Beth.
Eclipse means an obscuring of the light from one celestial body by the passage of another between it and the observer or between it and its source of illumination.
In other words, the light or reality is hidden from view.
Well... I spent some time figuring out the timeline of this moment where we see the solar eclipse with Leah and Daryl.
And I'm not kidding you. They are looking at a solar eclipse in 2017.
Most commentators on TWD timeline place Rick's disappearance and being taken by the CRM at the 2013 mark.
The episode "Find Me" actually gives us a good calendar to work by in finding out how much time passes from when Rick goes missing up until this eclipse that Daryl and Leah look at.
First, we see Carol say to Daryl...
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It's been 2 years of Daryl looking for Rick.
OK, so Rick went missing at the 2013 mark, and now it's 2015 (two years later)
We then see additional time jumps marked, adding up to 2.5 years...
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Placing us in 2017!
Leah and Daryl's story was a shadow of finding Beth.
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I've talked a bit about how 10's and X's are symbols of Beth's return, so this is an interesting, albeit odd addition to the X symbolism.
10.10 get well soon flipped ♾️ is 01.01 which represents the beginning and end.
Jesus said
‭‭Revelation 22.13
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
He also said
Revelation 22.12
Look, I am coming SOON!
X is 10 in Roman numerals, obviously, and we are also coming up to the ten year mark from when Beth "dies."
The current walking dead timeline for Daryl Dixon season 1 places us somewhere in 2023, so a question I have is...will we, at some stage in the future, see Daryl and Beth looking at the X eclipse of 2024 in a fulfillment of the 2017 eclipse...
Emily also wore this hat and posted a caption with it, "Don't F with me today Zombies".
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She posted this back when filming was taking place for season 5, but we never saw the footage reported on from that time.
The crown on the hat is made up of X's that make diamonds, and it combined makes the upside-down pyramids, all of which are related to Beth and Sirius returning.
Make of that what you will.
I'm working on a future post to lay out how both Consumed and Find me are road maps to her return.
Both those episodes focused heavily on Daryl and Carol off together.
She is coming soon... Beth means house of, and she's marked as Christ.
House of Christ.
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twdmusicboxmystery · 27 days
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Gifts for Team Delusional on Easter!
Okay so maybe Beth didn't show up in the finale of TOWL (spoiler) but thanks to Emilion Fqs, who attended the French comicon, took some videos, and shared them with us, we still have a LOT of hints to Beth's imminent return.
Like, this is downright ridiculous! 😱
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bookqueenrules · 6 days
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Daryl’s Pilgrimage: Why Daryl Dixson Season 2's Working Title Was Pilgrim
Most of us know that “Pilgrim” was the working title of DD season 2. I believe they changed it to The Book of Carol to throw yet another bone to Carylers because they will not be getting romantic Carly. No matter what the reason, you can’t escape that Season 2 is about Daryl’s pilgrimage.  We have gotten some CRAZY hints that this pilgrimage is all about finding Beth.
Exhibit A:  Check out the EXACT matching colors between the signage for DD 2 Pilgrim and Emily’s dress in the video for B or C for effort which came out last Fall during the same time DD 2 "Pilgrim" was being filmed.
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Meaning of the word pilgrim:
A pilgrim (from the Latin peregrinus) is a traveler (literally one who has come from afar) who is on a journey to a holy place. 
So, what is Daryl’s pilgrimage? It’s his journey to a "holy" place that will make him “hole”. A place that has that “something” he first went out looking for.  A place that will contain his happy ending.
The Latin form of “peregriuns” is used for a another famous hunter, the The peregrine falcon (Falco peregrinus), also known simply as the peregrine. 
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Two interesting facts about these birds are that they mate for life and often travel far, usually to a “high place”, to nest. They have been known to even build their nest in skyscrapers.  This bird is similar in coloring to the stuffed penguin Daryl finds on the boat in episode one. 
Exhibit B:  The Camino de Santiago
This is the pilgrimage mentioned in episode 6 of DD season 1.  Here is a little background info on the pilgrimage.
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Let’s talk about the Hebrew root of the English name, James:
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@angelthefirst1 and @frangipanilove have both done wonderful posts about how Daryl=Jacob/Israel right down to being tied to Leah even though he never loved her. Then, Daryl/Israel had to work another 7 years for his “Rachel” or in Daryl’s case, Beth. Another point here is that Jacob leaves his homeland and journeys a long distance, to his mother's people, and there he finds his love, Rachel. It's on this journey that Jacob has the Jacob's ladder dream and names the spot where his head laid during the dream, Beth-el.
So, you could say that this pilgrimage is the Way of Jacob(Daryl).  The route starts in various points in France as seen above but ends at the Santiago de Compostela where St. James' remains are said to be. 
Compostela means Field of Stars. It comes from the Latin “campus stellae” and is based on the stars of the Milky Way that, according to legend since the Middle Ages, had been outlined by the apostle St. James and followed by pilgrims to reach his tomb.
So,  pilgrims follow these stars from France, across the Pyrenees Mountains to find their way to Santiago de Compostela. This ties in perfectly with the Sirius “Dog Star” symbolism we see throughout TWD. 
Daryl Dixon season 2 is all about Daryl’s pilgrimage.  This spiritual journey will restore Daryl’s faith in God and lead him to his “happy ending” which will be a family with Beth. Just as it was Jacob's children who are the fathers of all of the nation of Israel, I believe it will be Daryl and Beth's children or their descendants who will "save" what is left of humanity.
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sophiasmommy23-blog · 27 days
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Another clip
This one is from the France one. She talks about Still.
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emsee22 · 1 month
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The Real Meaning of the DC Spoon from Still
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In Still, Beth picked up the DC Spoon which we thought meant she was going to go with the rest of the group to DC. After her death, articles were published claiming that the DC spoon foreshadowed that she was the only member of the group that was not going to know about DC. However, DC was more an Abraham, Eugene, and Rosita thing, and the only other people involved were Glenn, Maggie, and Tara because of the deal Glenn made with Abraham back in the church. Well, for me, there is too much resurrection symbolism around Beth for the spoon to truly signify her death, AND Rick, Sasha, Carol, Daryl, Carl, Tyrese, Michonne, Gabriel nor Morgan headed to DC. Here's what I think the DC spoon signified:
The cure.
The Washington DC storyline was about the cure. But Eugene was a poison (he lied), he was not the cure. There are theories about Beth having been bitten and that Grady was looking for a cure, stemming from the walker the direction focused on with blood on his mouth outside the funeral home, to the guinea pig symbolism, etc.
I think Beth really is going to be associated with the real cure. They have been building up to it, with Laurent in Daryl Dixon, and with Alicia in Fear The Walking Dead. But if they brought a real cure up in season 5, the show would have become all about that.
Sometimes I think the show writes lines that are not only about the story but messages to the audience. Remember how Bob was viewed as a Bet proxy? When he was dying, he dropped a Beth line about there still being good in the world and staying who you are. Then Sasha asked him why he didn't tell her that he was bit and he said "because then it would have become all about the end, and I was really enjoying the middle." If the show brought up a real cure, for the audience, it would have become about the show ending, when they had so much more story to tell.
Beth will come back, and she is coming back with a cure.
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onefail-at-atime · 6 months
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Alright, fam.
I'm doing a rewatch of Season 4 right now, and one thing keeps bothering me. According to the Fandom Wiki, Beth and Daryl were only on their own for three days. The prison fell on Day 504 (approximately) and Beth was kidnapped on Day 507.
It doesn't add up. Especially the weather. In Inmates and Still, the two are sleeveless and sweaty in the Georgia heat. But by the next episode, everyone (including Maggie, Sasha, and Bob) are comfortable wearing long sleeves and sweaters. Foggy mornings are typical fall and winter weather, even in Georgia.
So just how long do we think those two were on their own before Beth was taken?
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sasusc · 10 months
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Oops I did it again. Short, one shot based on some of the theories for Daryl Dixon's spinoff from Team Delusional's leaders from @twdmusicboxmystery. Combined it with watching Fear of the Walking Dead, this was born.
Summary: Daryl Dixon meets Al and notices she had an interview tape marked "Beth". He knows it's impossible. Beth Greene is dead. Has been for years. But when Al says Beth had survived a bullet to the head, he knows he needs to check.
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drewmoll03 · 19 days
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I'm so tired of people hating on Beth and Daryl as a couple because they have 0 common sense and critical thinking skills. I swear to freaking God I could write A WHOLE ESSAY about how Beth and Daryl isn't supposed to be controversial/weird.
Let me know if y'all want me to write that cause I fucking will🤣🤣💀
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bethiscomingsoon · 7 days
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It’s always funny to me how people say that Beth was weak and couldn’t survive in this world. cause those people are obsessed with Glenn yet Beth didn’t hesitate to kill people at Grady in order to survive . She killed humans way before Glenn could. She clearly understood what she had to do to survive and protect others.
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galadrieljones · 9 days
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Daryl's Arrows: Symbolism, Pt. 2 (Faded, Red, and "Always Accountable")
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In my last post, I left off discussing Daryl's new crossbow and the green and white arrows that come with it. The green and white represent different aspects of Beth and her proximity to Daryl, her effect on Daryl, and Daryl's psychological connection to Beth, as it is communicated via the use of arrows that are green and white.
Moving forward, it's time to look at what happens to Daryl after "Coda," and how this affects and changes the color of his arrows. What happens after he loses her? The point of these posts, remember, isn't necessarily to pick apart the fact that Beth is alive. This, I believe to be a given. The point is to show how tptb use Daryl's arrows to continuously communicate her influence over Daryl, how it fluctuates and wanes. There is also a predictive factor at work. I will get there.
For the record, I also want to remind everyone that Daryl uses his new crossbow with exclusively green/white arrows (Beth arrows) for some of season 3, all of season 4 and most of season 5. Not coincidentally, this most closely mirrors his proximity to her. However, at this point, we will start to consider, not just the color of Daryl's arrows, but the number as well. Because after "Coda," Daryl's total number of Beth arrows slowly begins to decrease. That's what I'm going to talk about today.
Taking Count
When Daryl is with Beth at the funeral home, we get this very clear shot of him standing with his crossbow hanging across his chest. We can clearly count: four arrows in the quiver, plus one arrow in the rail. That is five total Beth arrows. This is at the height of his closeness to her, as they hold hands and mourn the death of Hershel.
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When the walkers attack the funeral home, two things happen. The first is, Beth tosses Daryl his crossbow. When you brighten up the shot, you can see that three out of the four the arrows appear white. This is an early indication of Beth's angelic "protection." She tosses him his weapon.
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Second, Daryl loses two of his Beth arrows. You can keep count. As Daryl is fighting the walkers, he shoots three arrows, and he recovers only one. At the end of "Alone," Daryl is now down to three Beth arrows. I wanted to go over this to show you that the writers are keeping track. Because in "Us," when Daryl is with the Claimers, we see him with only three arrows. Two in the quiver, one in the rabbit. It is consistent with what happened at the funeral home.
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The reduced number of arrows communicates that Daryl is operating at a deficit. He has lost his physical proximity to Beth, but he hasn't yet lost his spiritual proximity to Beth. He doesn't replace the arrows for a long time, as if in a period of mourning. Daryl continues to carry only two Beth arrows in his quiver all the way up until episode 5.14 "Spend," at which point, he starts making new arrows in a new color.
"Spend," "Try," and "Conquer": Red (faded)
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Daryl is not a central character in the episode "Spend." In fact, he plays no real role. In the very beginning of this episode, we see him leaving Alexandria with Aaron, on a scouting project. When he's seen driving away on his bike (because Daryl will simply not ride in cars), we can see that he now has four arrows in his quiver. He still has his two Beth arrows, but he now has added two new arrows, which are just like his Beth arrows, only instead of having green and white fletching with green nocks, they have red and white fletching with red nocks. They're sort of like "inverted" Beth arrows, the same design, but with faded red elements replacing the green.
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We don't really get a good look at his new arrows though until the next episode, "Try." At this point, Daryl has two Beth arrows, and two "inverted" Beth arrows. In TWD, the colors green and red are often featured in thematic opposition to each other. Everyone has their slightly different interpretation for green/red and what they mean; however, they are all typically variations on a similar theme. To me, green and red are simple in their relationship to the stop light. Green means go, the way is clear. Red means stop, the way is blocked. On a related note, yellow indicates a liminal or transitional state. I will come back to yellow later.
When a character wears or interacts with the color green, this is a signal that they are on the right path, close to their humanity and their true purpose. When a character wears or interacts with the color red, this is a signal that they are on the wrong path, and dark times lie ahead. They are closer to monstrousness. They are losing touch with what it means to be human.
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Red and green, when they are seen in the environment, can serve a similar purpose. Red is a warning. Go back. Do not proceed. Green is an indication that the way is clear, you are safe and on the right path.
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Let's backtrack to this shift and how it affects Daryl and his arrows. "Spend," in case you've forgotten, is the episode in which Noah dies. Noah's death is a part of Glenn's arc, not Daryl's, and though Daryl didn't know him that well, in terms of the narrative, Noah, as the immediate beneficiary of Beth's sacrifice at Grady, still meant something. He was the last shred of evidence that Grady even happened. With Noah dead, and in such an ugly fashion, we can say goodbye to one more whisper of her lingering presence in the story.
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The shade of red used for Daryl's "inverted" Beth arrows is faded. This is important, because it signals a transitional stage, and also because it parallels the color of Noah's sweater. Faded red and white. It's important to note that during the back half of season 5, Daryl is still trying to be the person that Beth thought he could be. He rebuffs Rick and Carol, and their plans to steal guns from the armory at Alexandria. Instead, he begins spending time with Aaron and Eric, and he takes Eric's place as a scout, helping Aaron look for new people to recruit into the ASZ. He bonds with Aaron who compliments him as being the "best judge of character" he's ever seen. Aaron appreciates Daryl for the same reasons that Beth did. He wants Daryl to try, because he knows that Daryl is a good person, and he knows that trying is what will make Daryl happy, in the end.
So, in the second half of "Try," that's exactly what Daryl is doing. He's trying. Daryl will try very hard for some time, to believe in the goodness of people, but ultimately, we do know that a great deal of damage has been done. She's gone. Without her, there is an absence, re: the arrows he lost back at the funeral home, which are still there. He'll never get them back. For a while, he did not replace them as a testament to the hole in his heart, but now, he must move forward. He must try. So, he replaces them. But they're not the same. He hasn't lost hope, not yet, but he has lost something he can’t get back, Beth Greene.
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So why red? Daryl’s sense of loss is emphasized in "Try," when he and Aaron stumble upon a blond, female walker crucified on a tree, naked and torn apart. At the time, we don't know what the "W" stands for; however, I like to think of it as a big, red warning. Because that’s what red means: it’s a warning. Though the walker is of course, not Beth, and there are many theories for why Daryl might think it could be Beth, essentially what we have here is a corrupted, or inverted representation of Beth's memory, and her effect on Daryl, as it is threatened constantly to be corrupted and turned. This "threat" is, essentially, what I am associating here with the faded red/white arrows. As Daryl's arrows "trend" red, Daryl is in danger of losing his connection to Beth, to his faith in people, and, as a consequence, to his own humanity.
This trend continues through "Conquer," which is an important episode in which Daryl and Aaron are attempting to track down a mysterious man in a red poncho, another warning. But he proves elusive, and Aaron wants to give up. At the end of the sequence, while they're trapped inside the car, surrounded by walkers, Daryl, in a rare moment of extroversion and self-reflection, laughs to himself and marvels at the irony. He says that he came out here because he didn't like being cooped up back there, and yet, somehow, this "still feels more like [him]." Aaron says, "You were trying," to which Daryl responds, "I had to."
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This moment, to me, reads as very important to his emotional close range to Beth, but it's subtextual, and it's ultimately unanswered. Why does he have to try? He has to try, because it's what she wanted him to do, back at the moonshine shack, and back at the funeral home. Believe in the goodness of people, and she is the one who changed his mind. Daryl is still trying to be the man she wanted him to be, or the man she knew he was, even after she's gone. He's doing all this for Beth. So when the haters and the losers out there try telling you that Daryl never cared about her that deeply, keep this in mind. Of course he did. He is ready to die in this scene, as a better man than he had previously thought possible, and through this sacrifice, he inspires Aaron's latent bravery to do the same, just as he once did for Beth.
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It is of course no coincidence that it's Aaron who comes bearing "good news" at the end of "Them," the episode in which Daryl's grief manifests, as Aaron will go on to play a crucial role in Daryl's life over the next half season. Throughout 5b, Daryl struggles to fit into the new world without Beth. He is still trying to be the man he knows would impress her, but he is not safe. Daryl's nomadic tendencies, and his inherent pessimism about the nature of people, wrought by his years as a victim of abuse and neglect, means that he is constantly searching for an anchor to shore. Without a lifeboat, he is in danger. For some time, drifting along on the surface of her memory, Daryl will grasp for whatever shred of hope he can to stay afloat, and we can see this fragile, unsettled nature reflected symbolically in the faded, ephemeral quality of his arrows.
"Always Accountable": Continual Fading (of hope)
In 6.3 "Thank You," we see our next change in Daryl's quiver. There are now three green arrows and two red. This is, I believe, for emphasis. After finding Morgan and bringing him back to ASZ, and his time on the road with Aaron, Daryl is, I think, doing a little better. He is on his way to a "new start" toward a better, more "sustainable" tomorrow.
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But then, there's a change, with episode 6.6 "Always Accountable." "Always Accountable" is a major TD episode. If you haven't watched it in a while, you should, and for lots of reasons. Today, we'll mostly focus on Daryl's characterization and his crossbow.
Let's start with a topic that Daryl knows well: loss. When Daryl, Sasha, and Abraham are attacked on the road by who we now know are the Saviors, Daryl takes a turn too close and skids off his bike. When he gets back up in a hurry to drive away, the camera very deliberately zooms in on the ground where he'd fallen, and there, we see clearly that he's lost two Beth arrows.
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These must have been spares, as when we see him again on the road and in the woods, pushing his bike through a scorched hellscape, he still seems to have all three Beth arrows in his quiver. Why show us this? Why focus on the lost arrows?
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First, because it's the same number of arrows that he loses in "Alone," signaling a callback to a previous and salient traumatizing experience, which will be reflected in other ways throughout the episode as well. Second, I believe they want us to focus on the arrows in this episode. We’re shown them up close several times throughout, and the crossbow itself is in a constant state of contention and fluctuating ownership. Finally, losing these arrows is a major symbolic foreshadow of what's to come in terms of Daryl's characterization. "Always Accountable" is a huge turning point for Daryl and his newfound faith in the goodness of people.
Another major bit of foreshadowing early in the episode is Daryl's injury. He's been shot, or he’s lost some blood in the fall. We don’t know the exact cause. It's not fatal, just a graze, but it's enough to fill his sleeve with blood and to really slow him down. He can barely handle the weight of the bike as he hauls it through the woods. This is the first time Daryl has been physically injured since his black-eye in "A," which occurred at a similar low point for Daryl, as Joe the Claimer fed a bit too much into his anti-social tendencies; however, even then, he was not this physically hurt.
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Whenever Daryl is injured, that's important, because he's not injured that often. Not in any way that slows him down. In "AA," Daryl's injury is a signal that he may soon fall from grace, and out of Beth's spiritual protection, which I talked about in my last post per the presentation of white arrows as being angelic, and visually linked to Beth.
We're given one more close-up of the crossbow before Daryl goes off to find the sources of footsteps in the woods. You can see here how faded all of his remaining arrows have become. Even the green is faded now, which is a new development. The red looks merely brown.
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The faded colors represent a gray area for Daryl, a liminal space, a transition. This symbolism is reflected in the environment as well, a burnt out purgatorial hellscape, in which he is being endlessly pursued. But a character can only exist in limbo for so long. Daryl will soon be presented with a series of choices, and how he proceeds will determine the way forward per his characterization.
Another very important symbolic moment for Daryl is this episode is the removal of his angel vest. He takes it off when he examines the gunshot wound. He proceeds through most of the episode without it. Unlike in "Consumed," Daryl is communicated as greatly exposed in this episode. He finds himself lost, hunted, and in constant danger. As Daryl is used to being the hunter, the entire situation sends his character out of balance.
When Daryl is confronted with Sherry and Tina, we do catch a reminder of Beth: three white arrows, right in a row. Of course these women will protect Daryl, in some way, going forward, and in this we are introduced to our earliest Beth proxies in TWD. Tina through her innocence and her many visual and character parallels to Beth, and Sherry as the wife and lover archetype, a more literal protector as, later on, she will free him from captivity at the Sanctuary. Sherry, a catalyst for changing Dwight, a Daryl proxy, down the line, a long-gone woman in trouble, and the object of a relentless, romantic search, is a very important proxy to consider when we think about Beth post-"Coda."
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Moving on. After Daryl is dragged around in captivity for a while, as Dwight, Sherry, and Tina have mistaken him for a Savior, Tina collapses, and Daryl makes a break for it, stealing the duffle bag containing his crossbow and running off into the woods. While he's out there, Daryl then encounters a visually stunning walker, one overgrown with bright green mossy plants, standing out greatly against the hellish, burnt-out setting of Dwight's purgatorial woods.
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After dispatching the walker, Daryl collapses to the ground. We then learn that the walker was not overgrown with the vines of just any plant, but the Cherokee Rose, a representation that goes back to Daryl's story about the Trail of Tears in the eponymous episode fro season 2, and how something beautiful can still grow from tragedy.
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It's after this that Daryl discovers the cooler of insulin in the duffel bag. Daryl is then met with his first major choice. Run, or stay? With the Cherokee Rose there to guide him, he chooses to stay. He returns to Dwight, Sherry, and Tina with the insulin, even though he knows that, for some reason, they think he's their enemy, and he gives it back. This choice reflects Daryl's persistence toward faith in the goodness of people.
But the group is then almost immediately ambushed by the Saviors, who we don't ever really see but for specters and boots in the woods. Daryl helps Dwight, Sherry, and Tina escape. He even gives Dwight back his gun. This is another important decision, which communicates his inherent desire to trust that Dwight is a good person who has simply been caught up in bad circumstances.
After that, we get a great view of Daryl and his quiver, down to two faded Beth arrows, and two faded red arrows. Now, Daryl makes another choice. He chooses to invite them back with him, to Alexandria. This, once again, communicates that he has deemed them to be good people, which communicates, of course, that he still believes in good people. All of this is very important, because of what happens next.
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At this point, they encounter the greenhouse, and the two little dead girls encased in glass. In a familiar gesture, Tina places yellow flowers over their grave, but the glass gives under her weight, and she dies. Tina's death is symbolic of Beth's as well as a spiritual death for Daryl. Why do innocent women continuously have to die?
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This symbolic downward spiral quickly then manifests literally. After everything he did for them, Dwight and Sherry betray Daryl. They steal his crossbow and his motorcycle. Obviously guilt-ridden, Sherry tosses him a couple bandages and tells him to "patch himself up," all while pointing the gun at him, the same gun which Daryl had previously, consciously chosen to return. They then leave him in the woods.
This betrayal is about more than just stuff. It pulls the rug right out from under Daryl's feet, and what he thought was a formula for happiness, because it had truly been working so far--forgive people, see the good in people, and you will be met with forgiveness and goodness in return--turns out to be bullshit.
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The shot of Daryl above with his hair obscuring his eyes is an important image, which signals a kind of messy lack of clarity for Daryl's character. He is not seeing things clearly. This will come back.
Another important visual point to consider here is the inverse parallelism between Dwight and Sherry and Daryl and Beth. Daryl is brunette, Beth is blond. Dwight is blond, Sherry is brunette. The inversion here is unique and related to the inverted color scheme of Daryl's arrows at this point in the story. We are thinking about how things could be, how they could have been, etc.
You can guess these casting choices were made deliberately with said parallels and inversions in mind as well, ie: We don't have a ton of other light blond male characters on the show, certainly not main characters, and none with such close symbolic connections to Daryl. Dwight and Sherry, in this moment, are an inverted, twisted version of Daryl and Beth.
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"Always Accountable" is a devastating turn for Daryl's character. Beginning with this episode, he undergoes a dramatic descent. The "reboot" nature of this moment in "Always Accountable" can be summed up going forward by the loss of Daryl's *new* crossbow. He's empty-handed now, literally and figuratively, back to square one, with whatever progress he'd made toward becoming a more trusting, hopeful person, and the parallels that progress manifested in the journey of his arrows, threatening to be undone completely.
In these moments, Beth's presence is pushed way, way down, not because Daryl has forgotten her, but because he is hiding from her. Another reason he wears his hair in his face like a mask: he can't, in his subconscious mind, bear for her to see him this way.
Daryl is about to "go away" for a long time, and that will be reflected in his arrows. But do note that "AA" is not, itself, the acceleration point for his descent. It may be the tipping point, but Daryl still has choices after this. The actual accelerant is Denise, which I will discuss in my next post for this series.
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In my next post, I will also discuss Beth's knife, as well as Daryl's incarceration and escape from the Sanctuary, his time at the Kingdom (re: “New Best Friends”), AOW, Carl’s death, Daryl’s continual struggles with Rick, and the bridge.
I’ll be back again soon! Thank you for bearing with me as I move my way through this series. There is a lot to cover as we make our way forward to the present.
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angelthefirst1 · 5 months
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I mean...if i had a long scar on one side of my forehead and a bullet hole scar on the other side of my forehead, I'd probably get myself some curtain bangs.
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I'm just saying...💈✂️👱‍♀️💇‍♀️😜
😁 ✂️
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twdmusicboxmystery · 6 months
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Yes, he has! And he’s about to find her again!
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bookqueenrules · 23 days
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Beth "died" with a bang, but she will return with bangs.
So, Beth did not appear on Easter, nor was there any evidence or hint of her return. I feel it was a HUGE missed opportunity.  Many viewers of TWD from its peak in seasons 4, 5, 6, watched out of curiosity about Rick. Now that it looks like the CRM has been defeated and the story is over, many will tune back out.  There wasn’t anything teased to keep their interest.
Carol and Daryl reuniting?  That has already happened MANY times in the flagship. 
Been there; done that.  
Maggie and Negan facing off?  Again, it has already happened MANY times in the flagship. Been there; done that. 
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A post credits scene would have been the perfect way to give Richonne their happening ending but create further interest in the universe. (No wonder AMC did not like episode 6) Bringing back a classic character like Beth would have been a perfect post credits scene. A golden opportunity was lost.
Do I still think they will bring her back? ABSOLUTELY.  
Yes, there is all the symbolism, but more than that, there are the repeated statements that the DD spin-off is about DARYL’S  happy ending.  It’s been made abundantly clear in the spin-off that a wife and kids are Daryl’s happy ending.  Isabelle and Laurent are the “false family” or the temptation to “settle” like Rick and Jadis were tempted to settle for the CRM as a “false family”. Here is a snippet from an article published this week:
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In one of the DD season 2 teasers, there is a picture of the angel appearing to Balaam from the Bible. Then, it fades to Carol’s picture. I think it simply means angel/Carol will prevent Daryl/Balaam from going the wrong way/doing the wrong thing.  She will stop him from accepting the “false family”.
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However, I am concerned that we will see little, if any, Beth in season 2. One, because so much of the time will be about finishing the France story and reuniting Daryl and Carol.
Two, Emily’s bangs are telling us SO much about the timing of Beth's return.
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As best as I have been able to piece together, Emily cut her bangs in late October/early November.  I don’t believe she filmed anything for season 2 before then.  I totally believe that the bangs are to give Beth a new look, and the "bang/bangs" connection. She posts this at the end of November about being "so busy". So, HOPEFULLY she was filming in November!
Emily was in NYC at the same time as the NYCC where Norman, Zabel, Gimple, and Nicotera did a panel last October.  Norman was on a radio show also during that time in October saying he was in NYC for three weeks. So, could she have filmed things in NYC to be cut into DD season 2?  Maybe, but pictures from the time seem to show her without the bangs.
She seemed to be back in LA by December 5. 
So, knowing one episode takes around three weeks to film, she might be in the last two episodes.  More likely, she won't show up until the final episode. No one saw her filming in France.  That DOES NOT mean that she didn’t film there, but I think it does indicate that, if she did, it was limited. The picture below was posted by the actor who plays Losang, leader of the Nest, also at the end of November:
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You will notice the red cross on the right.  It looks much like the white cross on the Grady vehicles.
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I think this is another clue that Beth’s story will be tied into medical experiments/treatments in some way.
Why the change in color? @frangipanilove has a marvelous post about the color red and its symbolic use on TWD. Here
It's in a tunnel. There is a TON of symbolism there that I will save for another post, but it is not dissimilar to the hallway at Grady. So, Beth returning there would be a perfect parallel to Coda.
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To me, it seems Beth won't be featured, or get a real story, until Season 3. That may be why she was in Europe this past weekend. Maybe she is looking for a place to stay while filming this summer or even doing some pre-production work. 
Regardless, Beth is STILL on her way....
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