#bigeneration

[ickleblorg]

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[lililovesthings]

Regeneration happens when a time lord's body is damaged beyond repair? Yes?

Well I have thoughts on the bigeneration and it makes total sense because at this point 14 is damaged physically AND mentally. So being the timeless child his body knew what it had to do; bring the face back to go find home, then when the time came heal that psychological damage by literally halving it.

"a problem shared is a problem halved"

The bigeneration was the only way for his body to heal mentally and physically. He needed to stay at home but he also needed to travel, he also needed to get better. So The Doctor created a healer.

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[tinkerbitch69]

So, everyone has pointed out how funny it is that fifteen claimed to have gone through therapy and be fine now only to immediately act just like his old traumatised self and it is but like…

Has anyone considered fifteen was lying?

What if he hasn’t actually experienced that domestic bliss that fourteen got to enjoy or have fourteens memories following their split at all?What if he just told fourteen he did to convince him to stay on earth and be happy so fourteen could have a chance at happiness that fifteen believes he will never have and doesn’t deserve and his seemingly incredibly upbeat personality is just a facade?

I mean this sounds incredibly in character for the doctor to me tbh

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[mythweaverarts]

The real reason the 14th Doctor bigenerated was to get one over on Michael Sheen.

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[frankencanon]

I like to think that the reason bi-generation was so rare and mythical and unheard of and why it happened now is because it's an extreme self defense mechanism of the Time Lords — even more extreme than regular regeneration.

Simply put: the Doctor was too stressed. All of that stress built up over time more and more and more, until...

Until, much like with Donna and Rose in The Meep, the Doctor split themself into two so that they could share the burden.

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[fennelockley]

Do you know whats most interesting about this scene?

This is the first time the Doctor has ever been utterly kind, loving, and forgiving to their younger self.

Multi-doctor interactions always have them arguing and throwing insults. And sure, it's mostly written for the laughs, but the self-loathing is very heavy in those scenes.

15 is the first Doctor to stop and go, "I don't deserve this negativity, least of all from myself". And chose to forgive himself, and all his other selves.

And he stopped that cycle of trauma and self-hatred in an instant. He chose happiness.

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[katelynsimpsince2016]

after sleeping on the latest anniversary special i think i’m at peace with the whole bi-generation thing because it does something i don’t think it would’ve been able to do if it was executed in any other way. it allows the show to move the fuck on.

nuwho began with this mysterious sense that something bad happened. that this man, this alien, is filled with guilt and pain from something terrible. that theme of a horrible anguish being thinly veiled under a witty, dorky shield has been consistent throughout every incarnation of the doctor since. it’s a brilliant piece of characterisation but the doctor always being weighed down by this insurmountable grief i think was always going to hold the show back eventually. tragedy is inherent to doctor who but when does it become hard to believe that the main character is somehow able to continue on after everything they’ve gone through. what effect would this have on the audience, especially long-term fans? letting go of past companions and doctors is something that doctor who fans are notoriously bad at and i just wonder if it would become too much for the show to handle at one point. but now it won’t anymore.

bi-generation allows the doctor to heal from everything they’ve gone through whilst still being able to barrel into the next adventure. there’s a million theories on where 14 will end up but i think what matters the most is that the doctor is finally happy. not in a temporary, tenuous state of thrill that will only last until the start of the next episode or when the next threat appears around the corner but truly happy. unlike in previous versions of this story where the doctor gets an impossible happy ending which we never get to see onscreen (e.g. tentoo settling down with rose) we are actually going to witness 15 be joyful and alive, no longer held down by what’s come before. a fresh start almost. not to say that the time war or the flux were so horrific that the doctor never could’ve gotten over them but i don’t think the doctor healing would’ve been believable without him literally splitting in two, allowing him time to breathe and slow down as 14 whilst untethering him from the past and allowing him to fully spread his wings as 15. it’s not a perfect conclusion to this era (and discussions on whether bi-generation undermined ncuti’s entrance and role as THE doctor are completely valid) but i’m ultimately glad it happened

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[teashadephoenix]

It just hit me all over again how awesome the bigeneration was.

The Doctor's future self arrived on the scene and said "baby boy. my love. my darling. GET. SOME. SLEEP. I am only fine BECAUSE you get help. I am you, and this is our future and we're happy-- but that means you have to start. So stop running and start living. Have coffee in the morning with the love of your life/best friend. Bake bread. Go for a walk (for your stupid mental health.) Take your niece out shopping for her side business. Stay up all night talking to grandad. Get to know your brother in law and mother in law. Smell the roses, breathe the air, and LIVE."

So, so, SO many of us wish we could do that. Reach back through time to our broken little selves and say I promise it gets better and I love you and I am here. But I am only here because you stayed and got help and lived.

So START. LIVING.

And I dont think I'm ever gonna be over that.

#mental health #catharsis #doctor who #bigeneration #fourteenth doctor #fifteenth doctor

[robiniswriting]

“bigeneration was fanservice” duh. the fan they were servicing was ncuti gatwa by letting him act alongside david tennant, who played his doctor growing up, and to be honest I loved it for him!

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[doctorkinktraveller]

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[ickleblorg]

as soon as they separate

they run back to themselves

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[lililovesthings]

Maybe David Tennant AND Catherine Tate in a Unit spin off?!?!?!

Seriously I would love it, just keep DT and CT in the Whoniverse forever.

Then we can also have them back at home at the end of the day just doing their thing.

Just look at the love in their eyes.

You know what makes Donna different? Other companions wanted to travel forever with The Doctor and saw going home as leaving.

Donna saw going home as forever with The Doctor.

14 was a little lost puppy who found his forever home...

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[freuleinanna]

wake up honey dropping a doctor who theory here. bear with me, i'm not just crying over 14 and donna, i think it actually holds!!

so, bi-generation. okay. 15 popping out in his therapized glory. so basically, i don't think he just pushed all trauma to 14 and moved on. 15 is actually post-14. meaning, he has lived that life at the same time as he continued living his own life.

remember 13 looked into Time and got split into three? yeah, that. she was in three places simultaneously. her consciousness was, at least. what can't 14, what that recent knowledge, subconsciously do the same? he's just experienced that, and he's still running on regeneration jiuce. worth mentioning, the dude (gender neutral) had a piss with Time his whole life. looking into Vortex, diving into Time itself... the doctor is not disintegrating per se, but can, as proven, survive being split. why not let one part of him live longer?

so he does. he finds home in donna and her family. he's doing whatever the hell. squinting over sci fi books, getting whupped for accidentally buying non-vegan milk for rose ("you said the orange cartbox with stripes!!!" "A STRIPE! WITH A STRIPE! CAN'T TIME LORDS COUNT, YOU DUMBO?!").

having the most difficult heart-to-hearts with his best friend, finally telling her about his companions, the master, the flux. crying, grieving, healing.

looking up at a spaceship torpedoing into the ground and saying "that's a future me problem", dealing cards to donna because it's poker night. and donna is a bit surprised, how easily he let that go, and he just smiles, and holds her hand, and kisses her knuckles gently. and it's alright. "there'll be time for that," he says.

and then they both grow old. and 14 ages. and i don't know if donna dies first or not, it's unimportant. maybe the night she dies it happens. 14 grieves, and cries some more, and says goodbyes. he calls his favorite niece, and when all is said and done, he's ready.

only he isn't about to die, because his essence has to reunite. this part of him has been away for a very long time, and it was the happiest time ever, but he has to be restored. just like 13 had to collect shards of herself back into one, so does 14.

the very particles of his being are reuniting, and it feels like spreading, or travelling, and his silly poetic mind is pleased with the sensation... only to feel regeneration coming full tide, and suddenly he's back on the roof, looking at himself.

"no way!" "will somebody tell me what the hell is going on?!"

but the thing is, he didn't get split at that moment like we think. he got back together. bi-generation. two regenerations happened at the same time, looped one into another. 14 regenerated twice.

and now, now he watches himself exhausted and broken, and he can let himself go. he can sincerely say that it's going to be alright, because he knows it is. donna is right there. she'll take him home.

and he can continue on his way.

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[tinkerbitch69]

So bigeneration is already a contentious thing and the timeless child was a contentious thing too and believe me I get it, the doctor just being some rebel time lord who got bored and ran away is my favourite version of the character too but like

this controversial new thing could actually fix the timeless child controversy.

The doctor thinks this is the first time they have bigenerated but remember they’ve been mind wiped who knows how many times by the time lords. They could have done this before without rememebering but their new bigenerated self would still hold the repressed memories of being the timeless child and so still technically BE the timeless child right?

So what if the fugitive doctor bigenerated into a child version of hartnells doctor and that new child clone was raised on a barn in gallifrey while the fugitive doctor aka the og timeless child continued to work for the division?

If this is true, the doctor we’ve been following for the past 60 years IS essentially just a regular time lord who grew up on gallifrey and ran away and the timeless child is still a thing and we’re not rewriting the chibnall era. Plus for fan’s of that particular interpretation of the doctor the new bigeneration means our favourite version of the doctor finally gets a happy ending AND the show goes on.

This is just my headcanon but like I’m pretty sure this would make EVERYONE happy. Thoughts?

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[emilyarmadillo]

#toymaker #doctor who #dw spoilers #tenagain #tenthree #fifteenth doctor #bigeneration #meme #emarma's

[elen-aranel]

I do respect that Russell T Davies literally doesn’t give a fuck

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