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STAR WARS APPRECIATION WEEK -> DAY: 4
Expanded Universe: Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords (2004)
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incorrect-kotor-quotes · 11 months
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I’m pretty sure Sion is a tactical genius on Revan’s level, but none of us ever realized it. For example, at the Trayus Academy, he spread out all his minions into fifty little groups and included just enough useful equipment drops compelling me to search every corner and loot every body until I’m dead from boredom before reaching his boss fight. Seeing another long hallway filled with assassin squads came closer to breaking my spirit than any of Kreia’s bullshit because there’s definitely a good lightsaber crystal at the end and I need to go get it.
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jediexilemeetrasurik · 6 months
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“And I hate you as I hate her. I hate you because you crawl within my head as she does. But your presence holds no thoughts, no teachings. You are just there. Unspoken. I hate you because you are beautiful to me. And in that weakness, lies death.”
- Darth Sion, Knights of The Old Republic: The Sith Lords
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passionesolja · 10 months
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kaoribriefs · 8 months
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valkorianknight12 · 10 months
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is this an obsession? no its just deranged scribbling
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dopaminevampire · 7 months
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Kotor theory because I am deep diving lore.
Spoilers, kinda.
So regardless of whether we acknowledge the idea of the Sith Empire and brainwashing, I was surprised to learn that Korriban was already occupied when Revan and Malak showed up. It seems to be implied Czerka already set up shop there, but more interestingly, Jorak Uln, the crazy old coot that holes up in one of the tombs, is a remnant from Exar Kun's war 40 years previously. As is Sion, from the second kotor game.
That would be the war that Jolee fought in against them.
Looking at the history further, it seems that Sith war ended and a few scattered Sith made a run for it in various parts of space. Some of them ended up on Korriban and restarted the academy there. Its been running the *entire time* and none of the Jedi did anything about it.
The current headmaster of the academy as in the time of gameplay is Jorak's pupil, so guess is good he's been there a long while as well.
And that led me to thinking- when exactly did Yuthura show up in all of this?
Now my immediate reaction to this was "this is ridiculous, this is dumb, this has to be an oversight, there's no way these Sith have been here for 40 years and roll over and show belly and fall in line the moment the new punk kids show up on the block" but then THAT got me thinking about something else that doesn't entirely make sense either-
One of the first battles Revan and Malak engaged in was attacking Foerost. This battle is an almost exact copy of another battle that was initiated by Qel-Droma... 40 years earlier... in the last Sith war... with Exar Kun. Spoils of this battle ended with Revan and Malak taking most of the Republic fleet from drydocks and also heralding themselves in as the new Sith Lords.
Which brings us back to Korriban. What better way to make a bang and convince these Sith holdouts to fall in line than copying a battle from their own past war? Maybe even doing it better? Proving their mettle?
If we add in that perhaps this was preventing Revan from accessing the Star Map, capturing the Republic fleet makes a whole lot of sense too. Or even if not, asset denial.
Bonus- I also learned there is a bar on Korriban named "The Drunk Side"
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omgnoabsolutelynot · 1 year
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I was informed that KotOR II turns 18 years old today, and I knew that I had to do something to celebrate. I don’t know who put these guys in charge of the celebrations, but I hear that’s the third cake ruined and they’re sick of Darth Nihilus’ shit by now.
@laurie-juspeczyk Sorry for suggesting something and then immediately stealing it for myself heheh.
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emilyisfictional · 8 months
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AHSOKA SPOILERS
the eye of sion 🤝 the eye of the nihil
being a little too close in name to a member of to the sith triumvirate for it to be not a coincidence.
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revenge-of-the-shit · 8 months
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Consider your consequences carefully because Dave Filoni is going to modify them as he sees fit
Reblog for visibility!
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dairine-bonnet · 5 months
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On Korriban:
Darth Sion: ...You are her apprentice in name only. I am the Master, and that is why you will die!
The Exile: And it is time to find out who is better at mastering Force speed!
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gugullig · 1 year
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Kreia, her ideology, kotor 2 and trauma.
So I've been thinking a lot about Kreia and kotor 2 recently. I noticed how Nihilus and Sion are both widely discussed in how they relate to trauma, both being warning and ways you should not go about dealing with your trauma. Nihilus has let trauma consume him, he's become uncaring about his place in the world, empty almost and nihilistic. He consumes and consumes other eating away at those around him instead. This doesn't close the wound trauma left in him he only grows emptier, falling deeper into nihilism. On the other hand we have Sion who exists on the other side of the spectrum, he has refused to acknowledge his trauma, he's in denial. He just keeps soldiering on. You can't meaningfully heal while refusing to acknowledge what has happened. You can't move on no matter how much you fight or run. Travelling with us on the Ebon Hawk is Atton, Sion's mirror. Just like The Exile and Sion Atton has a lot of trauma behind him, trauma which he runs away from. In the quest to make Atton a jedi you help Atton heal is by helping him address his past, his trauma and help him find a way to move on. Both Nihilus and Sion are warnings, how not to deal with trauma and that is something I see a lot of people have already talked about, but I think discussions on Kreia's warning are missing. Sure there are a lot of discussions about Kreia's ideology in general but not in how it relates to trauma. So here's my take on it. I've tried to make things as accessible as possible so if some things are over explained I'm sorry.
Just like the other sith lords we face in Kotor 2 Kreia is a commentary on trauma and how we deal with it. A warning just like the others. Kreia's ideology is objectivist to say the least, enough to make Ayn Rand blush. Her foremost value is self reliance and so she despises all acts of charity and kindnesses in a similar vain. By helping someone you're robbing them of their struggle, weakening them and so help and pity simply becomes another form of domination over another. The only difference between contempt and pity is that you feel sad for the victim you're elevating yourself above. That is why she despises the force. The force is a crutch that sith and jedi make themselves dependent on, early on Kreia talks about how the jedi are often overestimated, they might seem strong but they're weak without the force. I'm going to indulge myself and quote a scene at length here, it's just after you arrived in house arrest on Telos.
Atton: Explain something to me.
Kreia: I do not have the years required - nor the desire to indulge you.
Atton: If she served in the war... well Jedi are supposed to be tough, capable.
Kreia: Yes... and what are they without the force? Take the greatest jedi knight, strip away the force, and what remains? They rely on it, depend on it, more than they know. Watch as one tries to hold a blaster, as they try to hold a lightsaber, and you will see nothing more than a woman - or a man. A child.
Atton: But to lose so much. I guess I didn't realise how much they relied on it.
Kreia: Do not be surprised, in many ways, even you are more capable than a jedi. You could survive where they could not simply because you do not hear the force as they do. It is irony of a sort - and it is why I tolerate your presence now
Atton: But such a loss of ability - for a jedi, it seems so extreme.
Kreia: She has been gone from war for some time. It is conflict that strengthens us... and isolation that weakens us, erodes us. Add to that that she turned away from war, did all she could to forget it and the last piece clicks into place. But we have spoken enough of this - and we do her a disservice by not speaking of this while she is present.
This conversation between her and Atton hopefully demonstrates firmly the degree to which she despises dependency and how that translates into a dislike of the force. A dislike that would become much more obvious later on.
So according to Kreia, the force binds and dominates millions through its influence. Through its eternal desire for balance of the force for example it creates eternal conflict between light and dark. It pushes the jedi to charity and self limitation, to ascetic life and in the sith it created a people of war, hate, murder and essentially everything bad. The sith code created for the previous game was based on mein kampf. It worships victory and so the sith are ready to kill and dominate however many it takes to reach what they consider victory.
However, while deeply explored and thought through, Kreia's Ideology isn't perfect or free from internal contradiction, even discounting the objectivism. She believes that those who are dependent in ways deserve their subjugation. Just by the nature of the Star Wars universe they're all dependent on it, it "binds all living things". If the dependent are deserving of their subjugation what does that say of Kreia's quest to destroy the force? Kreia especially is dependent on the force, among the most dependent of all the exile meets in her journey. Her eyes have withered away due to lack of use because she has chosen to see through the force instead. (There’s a first person view you can enter with all your party members and Kreia's and Visas' views who both see through the force are adapted to match this. A lot of people miss this but it's cute). 
Looking back at what I said about Kreia being a commentary on trauma and how we deal with it, this is the game showing her teachings' failings. Kreia believes that you can only grow from your trauma by struggle, by fighting for it, with absolutely no dependency. Your companions are your tools, not your friends, not your support network. The contradiction of her view of dependency and the force including her extensive use of it is a microcosm of this. She has grown dependent on her force sight because it has benefits. It allows her to see things she wouldn't otherwise. Just like with a support network of friends, dependency isn't always bad. The primary difference between a lot of the light or dark side choices is the degree to which you view other people, especially your companions, as either friends or tools. By accepting some degree of dependency, by surrounding yourself with friends, giving kindnesses and sometimes receiving kindnesses in turn you grow. By making these light side decisions you get the light side ending where you heal from your trauma and leave Malachor behind for good. You heal from your trauma by rejecting Kreia's view on life. In this way she's a warning just like Sion and just like Nihilus.
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incorrect-kotor-quotes · 11 months
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Sion’s character design is pretty damn effective. Well done.
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Of course, the first thing you notice about him is the Everything. He doesn’t need to go shirtless, he does it as a challenge. Take a look at him and ask yourself, how do you expect to kill him when he looks like that and is walking around? I used to focus on his good eye, but made the mistake of examining all the damage around the blind one, and now I can’t stop looking at it. Despite all the scarring and necrosis, he is still impressively muscular, and wears a guard for his sword arm. Clearly, this animate corpse is ready to fight and he will beat you into the ground. I bet he smells awful.
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zeb-z · 8 months
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something about Morgan Elsbeth and the Sith Squad building the Eye of Sion to find Thrawn in hopes of bringing back the glory of the Empire.
something about Darth Sion keeping himself alive beyond death to be a shamble of what he used to be, living through certain demise and rebuilding himself however agonizing his existence is because of his need of power.
something about the Imperial remnants kept alive only by their greed and hatred, wanting to return to a glorious power despite Imperials having been ultimately defeated, keeping the corpse of the fallen Empire up and running until they have some real source of power to bring back the total control they want
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edgybluerat · 1 year
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Dark side users surviving impossible odds is well established and all these cases precede Maul.
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whyamiheredude3 · 2 years
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Sleep deprived me had a blast with this
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