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bulkhummus · 1 year

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What I really enjoyed about this episode, despite it not being what we were all hoping for (and honestly, are we really surprised lmao) is the idea of Janet not getting what she wants. Even down to Jones being a nervous weasel standing behind her, still doing everything she's saying despite a mob on their doorstep.

I think there is potential for a really interesting narrative here of Janet never really being sure about something, and it driving her crazy. She has the supposed indescribable urge to explain, categorize, and make sense of anything in her immediate vicinity. She changes the words and definitions of things to her benefit in order for her to get the outcome she wants. What I love, is her not getting the satisfaction. Of never knowing undoubtedly with 100% certain the answer to something. There's just enough that doesn't add up. It reminds me of her explaining away station management, but she doesn't stop to question how the station has run without management for so long.

Josh Crayton is an interesting character for her to focus in on, because of what he can do. He can be anything, or anyone, at any given time. Right now, a lot of what Lubelle seems to be interested in is Dana's double, and doubles in general. It's what brought her to Night Vale in the first place. Now, I'm still on the fence of whether or not I want Carlos to save the town at all, quite frankly I don't even care that he hasn't done anything (because that keeps open a realm of opportunities about why even if I'd love for him to be mentioned or on the show) but right now it'd sure be interesting if he was working with Josh, Dana and Tamika. Josh can change his shape and his friends parent (the glow cloud (all hail) ) was murdered. Dana knows the town and how it works. Tamika has fought and protected the town and knows the value of knowledge. There is something there.

Carlos knew right from the start that Lubelle was coming and why. She announced it. He knows that the existence of doubles are real. He had lived with Cecil's for a decade. And if we are to assume that they had some kind of working relationship, after what Jones said about him in the diner, and what he said about Lubelle at the very beginning, she will not stop until she get what she wants. He knows this about her, and warned Cecil and the town. I have to think that if he got readily involved, Janet would have been keeping an eye on him no doubt. I have to think that him leaving and never coming back without explanation (assumably) is something that the University has never had an answer to. He is an open ended question for them, for her, for the town and for us as the listener. I am reminded of the line in 219 "Stay tuned next for the popular game show: “Who’s In My House?” where contestants try to understand strange voices and figures in the dark." After it is made known that Cecil is dealing with the frustrations of his town beginning to distrust his husband. Who exactly is living in his home? Who is the man he married really?

Carlos knows it must drive Lubelle insane. He knows the town not knowing things and his husband not knowing things, drives them insane. Right now, Carlos is taking advantage of an absence of knowledge, which is fun! And whether or not he ends up saving the day, the building suspense of him doing nothing is driving people crazy and really effective. Carlos is so completely off her radar, so thoroughly debunked and nonsensical to her, deemed a failure, that she's not even thinking about him actively being a threat to her being there.

Maybe he's looking at Tamika's ordinance of banning science in Night Vale as a saving grace. Maybe he doesn't want to be one anymore. Maybe he just wants to be Carlos. Maybe he left the university because he'd "gone soft and stopped caring" (episode 222) and was thrown into the exact role he was trying to escape from when he got to night vale. A scientist first, a person second.

I don't know if any of this makes sense, and I love Carlos and I'm angry that the show is not doing anything with the stakes they're raising but, I also can't help but sit and patiently wait. They waited ten years to give us some of Carlos' backstory. I can wait a little a longer to see what is to become of him.

I also can't wait to see the thing that breaks Janet. She can write off Cecil as a disturbed fool because it's a clear and concise answer that leaves little ambiguity. She can write off Carlos leaving and never coming back by deeming him a failure.

She's not interested in explaining anything.

She's interested in getting what she wants. She's interested in being right even if its by technicality. And what she seemingly wants is everything to be within her control. The idea of someone or something not doing what she expects might just be the thing to break her. I hope its Jones. I hope it's a Night Vale citizen. I hope its Carlos. Isn't it interesting that Josh is nowhere to be found, Dana's double story was conveniently forgotten (or genuinely, honestly) by Cecil on air, Tamika is banning science and Carlos hasn't been around from the beginning?

How do you beat someone who is in control? Isn't one way by making them think they still have all the power?

#this is my response to the episode #im just spitballing im just theorizing from thin air I think finknor need to make some bold choices and get a move on it #I do wish they'd've kidnapped cecil but #I wish it had been a voicemail episode #wtnv #welcome to night vale #wtnv spoilers #cecil palmer #carlos the scientist #janet lubelle #dr. Blake Jones #Dana Cardinal #Tamika Flynn #Josh Crayton #long post

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felt-squirrels · 1 month

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Episode 151 of Welcome to Night Vale is a fucking fantastic metaphor for something but I can’t properly articulate what

#welcome to night vale #wtnv #felt rants #josh crayton #wtnv spoilers

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t4tcecilos · 1 year

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omg tell me abt josh crayton .....

hiiii omg twirls my hair <3 its essay time <3 @itawalrus also asked ^w^ tagging bc. i can.

okay im super attached to him as a character first off. hes just. hes SO night vale.

like!! to me. he really represents one of the core aspects of wtnv, which is showing humans being humans, and overall humanity being humanity. hes a shapeshifter!!! and yet!!! hes still so HUMAN and REAL!!

hes described as "a boy of many forms but only one self.” which first of all. cool as hell. second. hes genderqueer to me. tbh.

he got stuck. as a waterfall. for A While. because he was anxious!! which yeah ive never done that personally BUT I GET IT!!!

theres one moment in it devours! that ive been thinking about which when nils is questioning him about one of the pits that appeared, and he says: “I wish I could help you more. You seem like a nice lady with good intentions. But I don't want to get in any trouble. And I'm just a kid. I like to think I'm more than that, but sometimes I'm just a kid. I'm sorry.”

hes a highschooler at that point in the story and it just. hits so much. hes just a kid!!! hes a shapeshifter yeah, and he likes to think hes more than just a teenager but at his core hes still a kid. which. IDK i related to that lol

i just think its so interesting how this background character who’s not technically human is written to be so realistic and real. he’s literally a highschooler hes my friend josh!!!!! he’s insecure and he pretends he isn’t!!!!! hes struggled throughout his life in many ways (not just bc hes a shapeshifter)

he loves his mom and he loves his sister even if he struggles w that sometimes!!! he likes multiple genders!!!! people understand him and his emotions even when hes a creature/idea/thing that cant show them!!! he loves being cute animals….

im a sucker for inhuman characters being some of the most human characters <333 ilove josh crayton hes my best friend

#posts #HES !!!!!! ONE OF MY FAVS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#theres also something to be said about how ingrained he is in the night vale community!!! hes IN the story <3 hes there<3 #weve never even heard his voice . blinks #asks #wtnv #welcome to night vale #josh crayton #idk if this is coherent but its fine. dances #shoutout to josh crayton. one of the most boygirls ever

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sexiestpodcastcharacter · 7 months

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Sexiest Podcast Character — Night Vale Bracket — Round Α

Propaganda

The Glow Cloud:

ALL HAIL

A glowing cloud that rains dead animals

Mod note: I am assuming this submission is for the original Glow Cloud, and not the Glow Cloud's child which has since assumed their parent's title.

Mod note 2: Propaganda from live shows is welcome. :)

Josh Crayton:

Literally can be anything. May or may not be stuck as a waterfall at the moment, which is quite upsetting to him and therefore to us. Gay. Sweet. Loves to fly. Wants to be useful and liked more than anything.

Mod note: Please only offer propaganda from the seasons where Josh is an adult.

Mod note 2: Please do not use events from the books, including Welcome to Night Vale, for propaganda. This note is made redundant by the first note, but he is pretty prominent in Welcome to Night Vale (novel) and is quite heroic in It Devours!.

#Round 3 #The Glow Cloud #Josh Crayton #Welcome to Night Vale #Pleeeeeeease listen to episode 151 - The Waterfall. It makes me cry every time.

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this-is-a-podcast-fanblog · 9 days

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Night Vale Obscure Ship Tournament

Lauraniel aka Danielauren art is by @mudstoneabyss

#wtnv #josh crayton #daniel wtnv #lauren mallard #im sorry josh/monty enjoyers they dont have a picture for this round #if they advance and someone would like to submit a picture please go ahead!

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nonbinary-catboy · 10 months

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wanted to do a something pride month-related for wtnv and decided to draw all the canon queer character I could think of (minus Basimah because I forgor abt her till the last minute. sorry) with some bonus headcanons.

Some notes:

-I know Charles is covered up but my hcs for him are the same as the ones for Carlos

-I hc Michelle as unlabeled. shes just doing what she wants

-snake thing at the bottom is Josh. I just never feel like drawing him as a normal human

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desert-bluffs-and-me · 1 year

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Please reblog for exposure and look at my other polls maybe?

* canon only

#wtnv #welcome to night vale #polls #michelle nyugen #intern maureen #abby palmer #steve carlsberg #basimah bashara #josh crayton #charles the theologist #kevin of desert bluffs

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hmmihaventdecidedyet · 2 years

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Okay, with Dr. Lubell and the University of What It Is going around explaining everything (RIP Sarah Sultan), what’s going to happen to my favourite character Josh Crayton??? Janet L had better stay away from my favourite shapeshifter

#welcome to nightvale #wtnv spoilers #wtnv episode 215 spoilers #also Janet Lubell you do NOT have the right to share a name with Janet Palmer-Carlsberg #josh crayton

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savyir-genesizz-the-wizard · 4 months

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Oh, ep Waterfall of WtNV, we are really in it now

#wntv #Josh Crayton

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noiselessbuck · 1 year

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you have extremely based taste in WTNV episodes

thank youuuuu.

listen listen its 2017 "questioning but not saying they were trans yet" Me heard a podcast that had a shapeshifter who was sometimes a monarch butterfly and sometimes a teenage boy and that awoke Something in me

#the transgenderism and genderfluidity of josh crayton #and also in the waterfall a physical manifestation of depression #its sooooo #wtnv #josh crayton #answered ask

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arataka-reigen · 8 months

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Is Josh Crayton ok? Out there in the desert all alone, not able to shape shift anymore

#episode 151 hit so hard #it was so sad and poetic #trans allegory all around huh #also disabled allegories #wtnv #josh crayton

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lt-sarai · 11 months

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OH NO THE BROWN STONE SPIRE

JOSH CRAYTON RUN AWAY RUN FAR AWAY

#Wtnv #Wtnv diplomacy #Josh Crayton #The brown stone spire