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nonbinary-catboy · 1 year
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Some Josh Crayton stuff cuz i have been thinking abt him since last episode.
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mudstoneabyss · 11 months
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ough you know Janet was sooo on her high horse that she'd never consider how she could be brought down like an unscientific cartoon bit
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bardinthezone · 1 year
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I am... disappointed with the latest episode. It felt like the last episode had a very clear set up, it ended with Lubelle taking over the damn radio station, and then.... nothing? No real acknowledgement of how that got resolved? I was certain we were going to start with Lubelle, that they were going to do something really clever with the format, maybe start with an "explained" Cecil. But nope. Just business as usual. And Tamika becoming a bit of a wet blanket, the hefty shift away from a tactic that definitely worked in night vale's recent history. No Carlos other than "oUGhHHHHhHHhh my husband's a scientist, cmon guys don't ban science," and all this constant referencing to old plot points that I'm worried won't go anywhere!
This latest episode was unsatisfying because it seemed clear where the story would go and they veered completely into left field. And to be honest I'm less excited for later episodes now because they've shown they're willing to take the story in directions that don't really make for a great cohesive narrative? They set the stakes so high and then said "that doesn't matter" so now I don't feel invested with any of these new, lower stakes (because I'm sorry but "the character we've gotten no time with recently can't legally do science anymore" is no where near as compelling as "the voice of night vale has been kidnapped/explained and the whole show is in jeopardy").
Cluttered. This episode felt cluttered. It felt like they were trying to dangle a dozen different potential plot threads in front of us and as a result none of them really stuck the landing.
Except the extra hour in the ball pit
Fucking golden joke, A+
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bulkhummus · 1 year
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What I really enjoyed about this episode, despite it not being what we were all hoping for (and honestly, are we really surprised lmao) is the idea of Janet not getting what she wants. Even down to Jones being a nervous weasel standing behind her, still doing everything she's saying despite a mob on their doorstep.
I think there is potential for a really interesting narrative here of Janet never really being sure about something, and it driving her crazy. She has the supposed indescribable urge to explain, categorize, and make sense of anything in her immediate vicinity. She changes the words and definitions of things to her benefit in order for her to get the outcome she wants. What I love, is her not getting the satisfaction. Of never knowing undoubtedly with 100% certain the answer to something. There's just enough that doesn't add up. It reminds me of her explaining away station management, but she doesn't stop to question how the station has run without management for so long.
Josh Crayton is an interesting character for her to focus in on, because of what he can do. He can be anything, or anyone, at any given time. Right now, a lot of what Lubelle seems to be interested in is Dana's double, and doubles in general. It's what brought her to Night Vale in the first place. Now, I'm still on the fence of whether or not I want Carlos to save the town at all, quite frankly I don't even care that he hasn't done anything (because that keeps open a realm of opportunities about why even if I'd love for him to be mentioned or on the show) but right now it'd sure be interesting if he was working with Josh, Dana and Tamika. Josh can change his shape and his friends parent (the glow cloud (all hail) ) was murdered. Dana knows the town and how it works. Tamika has fought and protected the town and knows the value of knowledge. There is something there.
Carlos knew right from the start that Lubelle was coming and why. She announced it. He knows that the existence of doubles are real. He had lived with Cecil's for a decade. And if we are to assume that they had some kind of working relationship, after what Jones said about him in the diner, and what he said about Lubelle at the very beginning, she will not stop until she get what she wants. He knows this about her, and warned Cecil and the town. I have to think that if he got readily involved, Janet would have been keeping an eye on him no doubt. I have to think that him leaving and never coming back without explanation (assumably) is something that the University has never had an answer to. He is an open ended question for them, for her, for the town and for us as the listener. I am reminded of the line in 219 "Stay tuned next for the popular game show: “Who’s In My House?” where contestants try to understand strange voices and figures in the dark." After it is made known that Cecil is dealing with the frustrations of his town beginning to distrust his husband. Who exactly is living in his home? Who is the man he married really?
Carlos knows it must drive Lubelle insane. He knows the town not knowing things and his husband not knowing things, drives them insane. Right now, Carlos is taking advantage of an absence of knowledge, which is fun! And whether or not he ends up saving the day, the building suspense of him doing nothing is driving people crazy and really effective. Carlos is so completely off her radar, so thoroughly debunked and nonsensical to her, deemed a failure, that she's not even thinking about him actively being a threat to her being there.
Maybe he's looking at Tamika's ordinance of banning science in Night Vale as a saving grace. Maybe he doesn't want to be one anymore. Maybe he just wants to be Carlos. Maybe he left the university because he'd "gone soft and stopped caring" (episode 222) and was thrown into the exact role he was trying to escape from when he got to night vale. A scientist first, a person second.
I don't know if any of this makes sense, and I love Carlos and I'm angry that the show is not doing anything with the stakes they're raising but, I also can't help but sit and patiently wait. They waited ten years to give us some of Carlos' backstory. I can wait a little a longer to see what is to become of him.
I also can't wait to see the thing that breaks Janet. She can write off Cecil as a disturbed fool because it's a clear and concise answer that leaves little ambiguity. She can write off Carlos leaving and never coming back by deeming him a failure.
She's not interested in explaining anything.
She's interested in getting what she wants. She's interested in being right even if its by technicality. And what she seemingly wants is everything to be within her control. The idea of someone or something not doing what she expects might just be the thing to break her. I hope its Jones. I hope it's a Night Vale citizen. I hope its Carlos. Isn't it interesting that Josh is nowhere to be found, Dana's double story was conveniently forgotten (or genuinely, honestly) by Cecil on air, Tamika is banning science and Carlos hasn't been around from the beginning?
How do you beat someone who is in control? Isn't one way by making them think they still have all the power?
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felt-squirrels · 2 months
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Episode 151 of Welcome to Night Vale is a fucking fantastic metaphor for something but I can’t properly articulate what
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cowboyinternist · 1 year
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LET THEM KILL
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t4tcecilos · 1 year
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omg tell me abt josh crayton .....
hiiii omg twirls my hair <3 its essay time <3 @itawalrus also asked ^w^ tagging bc. i can.
okay im super attached to him as a character first off. hes just. hes SO night vale.
like!! to me. he really represents one of the core aspects of wtnv, which is showing humans being humans, and overall humanity being humanity. hes a shapeshifter!!! and yet!!! hes still so HUMAN and REAL!!
hes described as "a boy of many forms but only one self.” which first of all. cool as hell. second. hes genderqueer to me. tbh.
he got stuck. as a waterfall. for A While. because he was anxious!! which yeah ive never done that personally BUT I GET IT!!!
theres one moment in it devours! that ive been thinking about which when nils is questioning him about one of the pits that appeared, and he says: “I wish I could help you more. You seem like a nice lady with good intentions. But I don't want to get in any trouble. And I'm just a kid. I like to think I'm more than that, but sometimes I'm just a kid. I'm sorry.”
hes a highschooler at that point in the story and it just. hits so much. hes just a kid!!! hes a shapeshifter yeah, and he likes to think hes more than just a teenager but at his core hes still a kid. which. IDK i related to that lol
i just think its so interesting how this background character who’s not technically human is written to be so realistic and real. he’s literally a highschooler hes my friend josh!!!!! he’s insecure and he pretends he isn’t!!!!! hes struggled throughout his life in many ways (not just bc hes a shapeshifter)
he loves his mom and he loves his sister even if he struggles w that sometimes!!! he likes multiple genders!!!! people understand him and his emotions even when hes a creature/idea/thing that cant show them!!! he loves being cute animals….
im a sucker for inhuman characters being some of the most human characters <333 ilove josh crayton hes my best friend
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Night Vale Obscure Ship Tournament
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Lauraniel aka Danielauren art is by @mudstoneabyss
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mississpissi · 1 year
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oh hell naw, john peters the singer/songwriter?????
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Please reblog for exposure and look at my other polls maybe?
* canon only
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nonbinary-catboy · 11 months
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wanted to do a something pride month-related for wtnv and decided to draw all the canon queer character I could think of (minus Basimah because I forgor abt her till the last minute. sorry) with some bonus headcanons.
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-I know Charles is covered up but my hcs for him are the same as the ones for Carlos
-I hc Michelle as unlabeled. shes just doing what she wants
-snake thing at the bottom is Josh. I just never feel like drawing him as a normal human
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I-
Oh my gosh
That was ABSOLUTELY A M A Z I N G
SLFKGHLJHS DR LUBELLE GOT SQUISHED BY A COW
CARLOS IS THE NEW DEAN AAAHHHH!!!
AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH 😭😭😭😭 HE'S INVESTIGATING THE DESERT OTHERWORLD!!!!
Also Cecil's attachment to the lights above the Arby's :'D like it makes so much sense obviously but just hearing him talk about it in the beginning and then at the end 😭😭😭 I literally can't :'))
And related to that, "ancient radio host" 👀👀👀 YESSSS we love when we vaguely acknowledge that ;)
And related to THAT, as I was thinking the whole time, I love how Dr. Lubelle didn't even try to explain Cecil XD. Girl really was just gonna leave him and the Ralph's lol, and that's how it should be 😌 I mena if it had to happen lol. Or just like, Cecil not being explained in general.
Anyway
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
YESSS EVERYONE'S BACK!!!
Except, of course, for one 😭
All Mourn the Glow Cloud <33
So yeah :'D I enjoyed this episode SO freaking much (the weather was beautiful by the way - not in a calm way, but just super good lol). Another year :').
Night Vale, I love you so freaking much <3. Thank you :')).
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had a dream that night vale finally released a musical episode but it was a buffy the vampire slayer situation in which the music was the fault of an antagonistic outside force and now i miss it so much.....
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bulkhummus · 2 years
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wtnv being about interpersonal relationships, as it is a small town where the interpersonal relationship’s are what make up a home and a familiarity, that enhance the horror of a tragedy, that contrast experiences and build of off them, that show the decay of a story, that show the beginning of a story, that are the gossip and the life blood and the silliness and the heart break my beloved <33333333333
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ihaveapodcastproblem · 5 months
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They mentioned his name and I actually started crying y'all this is too much
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Okay, with Dr. Lubell and the University of What It Is going around explaining everything (RIP Sarah Sultan), what’s going to happen to my favourite character Josh Crayton??? Janet L had better stay away from my favourite shapeshifter
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