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not-goldy · 1 month

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So Goldy this 11:08 discussion reminds me of a convo I just had with my sister recently... we were discussing of how bts members encourage the bad behaviors of their fans and her biggest point was Jungkook. For her, Jungkook encourages the toxic Y/N scenarios and the example she used was the white day live. I, being a jikooker immediately defended Jungkook however once she asked why I chose peace. But that just made me realize that most things Jungkook does to get his mimis attention has been stolen to feed off the Y/N delulus. Jungkook didn't come on live on white day to dine with you he came on live to dine with his mimi who was overseas... Jungkook dressed up handsomely to attract mimi, spoiled alert mimis solo projects and, even mentioned GCF Tokyo and there for you. This also happened during the jimin 2022 bday wish video when army's started trending for "What was the reason?"... well honey bcuz he wanted to thirst trap his babes to a after hours birthday present. Sorry to break it to you Y/Ns but he doesn't do shit to feed your delulus, you do that on your own. The Jungkook fan service king thing needs to come to an end.

Ahhh you should have called me so I join in the discussion.

I agree that all BTS members are guilty of this especially those who over share sensitive vulnerable tales of their lives and enable their fans to trauma bond with them. Those are the ones who inadvertently encourage parasocial attachments and its more insidious and dangerous if you ask me.

I think anyone who overly emphasize on Jungkook thirsttraping and love baiting his fans has their priorities misplaced cos no one truly believes Jungkook is dating them or saving himself for them when calling him baby irks him so much.

But I agree that writing love songs and sharing deep emotional feelings in a song and calling it a fan song is dangerous.

Like these are grown adults they shouldn't still be disguising their romantic feelings, expressions experiences as content made for fans at their big age.

If you want to have this conversation you have to HAVE IT. You have to go to the root of the problem and not just scratch the surface.

When two people are found in the back of a truck taking a break unwinding and enjoying eachother's company THEY SHOULD BE BOLD TO SAY HEY THIS IS OUR ME TIME AND WE DONT APPRECIATE THE INTRUSION.

But saying you hanging out for fans taking pictures for fans loving someone for fans IS HOW FANS GET CROSSED EYES THINKING THEY ARE ENTITLED TO YOUR HEART MIND AND SOUL.

That everything you do is for them and anything else that can't be co-opted should be explained away as fan service.

I mean speaking of encouraging bad behaviors.

I don't know how and why people fixate on Jungkook gyrating and thrusting his hips on live for fans when there are real issues like these to be discussed. I just don't get it.

And I think Jungkook is doing what the members did when they were his age. Someone has to pamper these fans and incentivize them to remain loyal or even to attract them to the group.

I recall we used to call Tae and JM the recruit fairies cos they were the one's who strong fanservice skills drew the crowd and converted new stans.

It's simply Jungkook's turn to do the necessary evil and I genuinely don't see how he's over doing it. Fans are just nuts if they truly fall for him calling Army his girlfriend cos if so he's cheating on every single one of them with the other😩😩😩😩😩😩😩

I take it all as a joke but if people are taking it seriously they need to seek psychiatric intervention.

Can I ask you a question??🤔

Do you not see the real actual problem with BTS or do you genuinely think what Jungkook does is an actual serious problem 🤔

Because it's the least concerning thing on my scale of problematic things BTS do with fans. If they were all just feeding y/n delusions I'd say that was not a problem at all cos Y/ns will always y/n regardless😩

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straightfromthetorturedpoetsdept · 4 months

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As someone who was raised Christian (Roman Catholic, specifically) the older I get the more I realize how scary and cult-like it truly is!! The guilt that's instilled in you at such a young age is by far the worst, in my opinion. I was talking with my sister the other day and we both came to the conclusion that we're only still going to church on Sunday's (though we're still stuck at home, therefore "forced" to still go to church) is only because we've been literally conditioned to think we will go to actual hell for all eternity if we stop going.

In conclusion, yes I agree with you Christianity is fucked up!!! (And it should not be so normalized to be teaching it to kids as their brains are forming.)

I've heard this a couple of times from ex-believers and imo, I'm inclined to agree with you.

This is why I believe that christianity IS a cult, not just cult like, because the tactics they use are the same ones cults use to keep their new members (the children) under their control.

Any ideology that relies on the teaching that "all" humans are evil internally and that life is just a struggle against our "base carnal desires" in order to achieve eternal happiness ONLY AFTER death is inherently a cult imo. If they instill these teachings in you by beating you (which many christian families defend the use of child abuse), I dont think you really need to go any further than that to get your answer imho.

But you could! That's the crazy part of it all. You can literally point to how perfectly christianity fits within the BITE model of cults.

Behavioral control? Check.

Information control? CHECK.

Thought control? CHEEEEECCCCKKK.

Emotional control??? ALL THE CHECKS!

We can talk ad nauseum about all the thought stopping ways believers teach each other to stop thinking so hard about the words in their holy text. "you're not smarter than god" "you don't know more than god does" "we cant know his plan for us" "you think you're the first person to have these doubts" "doubt is the devil speaking" etc etc etc that are forced down the throats of children so that when their brain matures, they've already been indoctrinated into the cult and will have a hard time self-soothing such doubts and questions.

I am so sorry to hear about the trauma this religion has inflicted on you and your sister and I hope both of you find a way to rid yourself of that unearned fear that was forced onto you. It is really scary to realize that you and most everyone else you know has been indoctrinated into these beliefs (especially when your family uses such beliefs to defend objectively horrible shit like homophobia and sexism for example) and I wish I had a way to help everyone who is struggling with that knowledge come to peace with it.

Some of my friends say that they struggled for so long to deconvert publically because they wanted their loved ones to realize they've been conned along with them and it pains them to know that much of their family believes in literal lies because of eternal torment or whatever. Another reason why I think its actually a cult because members feeling guilty about leaving the cult since "all their family believes in it" and "what if they're right" just screams cult traums to me tbh.

I agree with you that christianity (and other religions too) should not be taught to children at all. The damage this type of thinking does to children is so fucking despicable to me. I wish I had a better answer on how to stop children from being indoctrinated into such a cult but unfortunately, I don't (at least not one that doesn't trample the rights of other people). All we can continue to do is to critique ideologies whenever we can and point out the factual errors within the religion itself. The rest is up to the individual believer if they want to really analyze why their religion is so incorrect about literally everything.

#anon love #ask and you shall receive #christianity #religion

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blooming-magic-glimpse · 5 months

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Hexing, evil eye and everything harms

So, I recently got hexed and talked about it, and I think this is a great time for me to talk about what hexes are and how to protect yourself from them, as a continuation of my two protection posts.

First, what is baneful magic ?

In the dictionary :

Baneful : Causing harm, ruin, or death; harmful. Portending harm; ominous. Having poisonous qualities; deadly; destructive; injurious; noxious; pernicious.

Usually, what people call baneful is actually super relative to culture, religions and individual practice. it can includes : hexes/curses/jinxes, love spells, domination spells, blood magic, binding, banishing etc. There is a lot of rhetoric from different people that try to keep people away from these spells. For example the rule of Three, which states that everything you put out comes back three times, is a Wiccan religious belief that is in no way applicable to all witches. Some people's views of "karma" or other "universal justice" ideas. I am personally of the opinion that, if your guide and your moral compass agree, there is nothing wrong with giving universal justice a little boost with a bit of a reasonably measured hex. But as a general thing, it should take place in an informed, cultivated practice and not just a "i'm mad at my ex so i'm gonna pick this random tiktok spell i saw and write his name on it". No. That is the best way to get yourself in trouble.

What is a hex ?

A hex is, at its core, someone sending negative or unwanted energy your way. We can commonly see a few types of hexes:

The Evil Eye, the most common, easiest one, that everyone probably got at one point in their life. At its core, the Evil Eye is about people wishing ill intent on you from seeing you succeed. As an example, I made eye contact with someone that was jealous of me while i was on stage and i almost tripped on a floor that had no reason to make me trip. It is usually considered to be easy solved by not showing your achievements you know are jealous, basic cleansing, throwing salt over your shoulder, using a talisman etc. I'm pretty sure most if every culture has a concept of evil eye so look into what you resonate with best (in the limits of what is open to you).

The Jinx: it's almost the cute version of an hex ? It's like causing a bit of a bad luck, like missing the bus, breaking your phone screen, missing an appointment etc. it tends to not last very long, a few hours or so.

The hex: it is both a general term and what people tend to do. It's the " can't keep one up with a new gf", "have constant bad breath", "flat tire", "might lose your job" one. it can wildly vary in intensity depending on your current protection, how close the target and practionner are and the nature of the spell. The Curse: This is when shit goes DOWN DOWN. Generational trauma typa shit, illnesses might pop up typa shit, divorce typa shit. To this day, I have never seen anyone being truly cursed. Usually the energy ends up being transformed into lessons for the descendants or the target after a while, and its goal it to point out specific toxic behaviors or issues rather than just cause chaos.

How to cast a hex ?

I am pretty sure i answered a ask about this once, my goal here is not exactly to give a recipe for all hexes but at least guidelines so you know how to start and where to look. Hexes, just like all spells, are about creating an energy and sending it. In this particular case, it is about creating "mud" and throwing it at someone. Here is the thing: you cannot throw mud without getting your hands dirty. How dirty your hands get depend on what you are throwing, if you are taking precautions and how much you are cleaning after. I know it gets told time and time again, but don't do a hex as your first spell if you dont have a good handle yet on protection and cleansing spells. The reason why they are recommended for beginners is because they are easy, don't typically explode in your face easily, and they are diverse, therefore allowing you to test out what you vibe with and don't. Also, they teach you necessary skills. Otherwise, it works as any other spell. If you do it with leeway for the universe (and you take precautions and cleanse) the cost for you will probably be energy, headache etc. If your goal is to specifically make a certain situation happen for someone, it will require a sacrifice on your part, that you may not have control over. I am currently being coached and taught about spellwork, so in a few months I might revisit this post and explain things differently and add more info.

How to know you have been hexed ?

If bad shit starts happening out of nowhere, it might be worth asking the question.

Here is a list of things I have experienced or have seen people experience from being hexed:

nightmares

sleep paralysis

bad luck

fire alarms going of at specific hours

people being unusually mean or intolerant to you

getting weird or scary visions (VISIONS, not hallucinations, if you are not intuitive this does not apply, if this is not already in your belief system this does not apply)

stuff falling, breaking, not working, getting lost etc

having difficulty reading, channeling

feeling blockages

getting sick, nauseous, getting a migraine, getting a crisis of an already existing illness

getting into arguments

protections and wards acting weird

pets acting weird

The thing is, any number of those things can happen for a hundred reasons that are not even remotely spiritual. If there is another possible explanation, check it first. I promise you it is a lot more likely than someone hexing you.

Okay, so now i know i got hexed what do i do ?

Congrats you got hexed.

Start by not panicking.

Even though it sounds scary, it is probably a lot easier to get rid of it than you think. You can start by checking my protection 101 and protection 102. Cleanse deeply yourself, your room and your spirit and add some protections. Once it is done, if you still feel negative energy around, you can try cleansing one more time, or it may mean your guides are inviting you to look into yourself and heal some parts of yourself that the hex brought out.

After you got hexed

This is the official point where you can start throwing hands with the person that sent you the spell. No, i'm kidding. Okay, maybe not. But yeah, it is a point where you restore your protections and can pat yourself on the back for succeeding at getting rid of an hex. Good job!

#hexing #curse #jinx #tips from a friendly witch #freemindedspirit

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jennrypan · 1 year

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mIraculous ladybug is the show where the writer doesn't know how to write teenager as teenager and what would you change on mlb if you have the power to do that

Ohhh boy. Welp- this will be LONG.

1: Id make it in 2D, cuz one..the expressions and behaviors do NOT translate well with this animation and also..I think itd be cooler.

2: Give Marinette new outfits!!! Shes an inspiring fashion designer cmon!! Have her make stuff for herself and friends (and get an actual person that knows about fashion to give pointers)

3: Let Marinette actually..do hobbies with her friends that isnt about Adrien or Ladybug like..show her have a life outside of just that?? Show the audience who she is so we can love her more (and itll add more angst to how much she has to set back for Ladybug)

4: Adrien shares that actual plot and we see more of his home life and how it differed from Marinettes (Like Marinettes life is full of life and colors and Adriens is dull with little to no emotions allowed)

5: Marinette would maybe still give Chloe the shit advice for her mom thinking shes helping but instead of it being seen as a good thing it shows that Marinette cant fix everything especially things like this cus she doesnt get it (and itll make her look at people and her life in a diff light cuz she realizes..she has loving parents and most people dont, which leads to her looking at Gabriel with a side eye even more and regretting what she told Chloe)

6: Use Lila more and hint at how collective she is, make her use better lies and show her actually doing stuff shes lied about and hanging out with the class so it actually makes sense why they truly dont see her as evil (i also..wouldnt make her some evil mastermind , shes just petty and annoying, desperately wanting to be cool and loved by her peers) whether she gets redeemed or not depends

7: Show Adrien and Nino hanging out!! Let him have friends outside of Marinette and Ladybug!!

8: Marinette wouldnt give literally everyone in her class a miraculous..its so lame. Instead like Master Fu..she gives it to people she sees doing good things but not before discussing it with Chat Noir (Alya, Nino and Chloe will still get it and eventually Chloe would suggest Sabrina with Adrien or Marinette suggesting Kagami etc)

9: Give Luka more..personality than musical simp. AND EYELASHES OR EYELINER CUZ FUCK HE LOOKS LIKE THIS 👁👄👁!!!

10: Dont reveal who Hawkmoth is until the middle of season three, like in season 1 its a complete mystery and his motives are unknown, show Gabriel actually doing his job (he goes out and wears actual nice clothes instead of just..white and red..) So no one even suspects hes the villain, hes just doing his job..he just looks too busy for Adrien

Basically..fix the animation, fix how the emotions are handled..give the characters more depths and interaction so we can care a lot more about their motivations ?

I just wanna see these guys do..actual hobbies instead of just going to school..playing video games and thats it?? None of the other kids seem to have..lives outside of each other

Also..give the girls better outfits :/ its all kinda lame ngl. So thats just the jist, I dont want this to be too long cuz I got a LOT id change for this show ngl

#j.p speaks #miraculous ladybug #ml spoilers #mlb #j.p answers #ml rewrite

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devine-fem · 5 months

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thoughts on a dc ship..dickjay..

I personally absolutely hate it with all living rage in my body, I just want to know your thoughts about it causeidk

Ooof, early in the morning and I’m being hit with n ask like this.

Listen, I just don’t care enough to hate it, I know it exists because it’d be hard to avoid , its one of the most popular relationships on ao3 and I don’t know why? I don’t ever see any dickjay shippers explaining their fixation so I have no idea why it exists.

personally, i don’t care enough to hate it but it irks me enough to avoid it. personally with me i have read some peices of media where two characters relationships are brother like but far from it and the people who sully the characters complexity with that ideation infuriate me so I wonder if its like that???

or they could just look nice together and are fun to draw/are an aesthetically pleasing pair then thats a whole different story… that means they know its wrong n dont care :(

i don’t like it along with ships like that but ive come to terms with that fact that everything you could possibly think of is shipped and there is nothing we can do to stop it. EVERYTHING, i just saw someone reblog art of two character i had screamed on the realization people would even ship it and unfollowed asap but thats my right.

YOU have the ability to mold and create a part of the internet that is specific to you and your interests and what you want to see, that is what tumblr is for.

i just think of the creator of omegle and how he saw the good of the internet since it became a thing but realized quickly how society would use its ability for evil but the evil overwhelmed him and almost killed him. thats truly sad and i dont want to contribute to that type of culture

you should only be sitting down and comsuming media you enjoy! if not whats the point! then youll become bitter. you’ve come to this huge glacier of media called dc with characters you enjoy and instead of filling yourself with serotonin you go and hate on peoples ships 24/7 because you can? thats absolutely pathetic and almost just as bad as shipping it yourself. that will get you avoided along with the shipper. its just weird and mentally draining and unstable behavior… i used to do that! i was one of those people so i know!

ugh, i don’t know man. people are sad and pathetic creatures, sometimes we don’t always do good and we have to do stuff to make living life just a little more tolerable and i could never be the person to want to take that away from someone else, least not anymore.

i hate pulling the “its fiction” card but it is, its fiction and in this climate, what’s happening in real life is so so important. there is real evil happening in the world and if you can’t take that same energy to the world as much as you do non existent ideas that look similar to people.

free palenstine. try and do right by the children facing literal genocide. some things actually matter. some people have real problems and thinking about how people would rather defend their blorbo than ceasefire on children just fucking pisses me off, as it should anyone. makes me so- fmhp. yeah thats my thoughts.

if you want to start drama over this, just block me, you won’t win and i don’t want that embarrassment for you.

#asks

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hevcrap · 1 year

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I didn’t write this, I’m posting on behalf of a dear friend. If you have questions, direct them to myself or @biotrophs. Content warning for mentions of suicidal ideation.

this is, for lack of a better term, a warning post for max @/gameoftheyorha (previously known as @/emgality, @/flingzaroller, and @/loverspond). i dont think max is evil or abusive etc, this isnt a callout and wont have receipts. if this situation had happened irl then their friends would know, and i think they deserve the same courtesy online to judge whether they want to be friends with this person.

max was in my close friend circle & dated another close friend in that group for 4 years. during this time, they were pretty extensively disrespectful to all of us, would repeatedly vent or threaten suicide, and say everyone they knew hated them. this was in a server of 8 where each person had a diary channel, and they talked in the server almost exclusively to vent in theirs. they would also break into others conversations or vents to traumadump and leave. they hated another person in the server for saying a message of max's was harmful, and max was hostile to them and posted vagues about them on tumblr.

it took us 4 years to reach a breaking point with this because we were worried that it would push them to suicide to try and talk to them, so we just lived with it. the day after we talked to them they cut us off entirely.

they were roommates with their partner (parker @/hevcrap), and max was harmfully codependent on him. they refused to make friends in their own circle and only wanted to hang out w their partner and sometimes his friends. this got so bad that their partners friends realized and were taking him out for sometimes days at a time to try and keep him away from max. at one point max made a tumblr vent post that their partner asked about, to which max said they had a suicide note written and were planning to commit. this is a pretty rough thing to put a partner through without ever reaching out to try and talk to him, and they also did this around 5 years ago to their girlfriend at the time, meaning this behavior has persisted in their relationships for half a decade

i dont think any of this behavior is problematic or calloutworthy, but it has been a pattern for the 4-5 years weve known them, and its left our friend circle with lasting damage. irl, you would hear this stuff about a person you had mutual friends with before you got close with them, but max can totally hide their past behavior on tumblr by abandoning friend groups that they hurt like this, and they constantly portray themself as a victim of all their past friends and someone who has done no wrong to them, so this isnt necessarily something you would realize. this is my reason for airing personal drama i wouldnt post otherwise, as i have no other way to talk to their friends and warn them about these behavior patterns. i truly dont believe max meant to hurt us with any of this, and i dont wish them any harm or hate, but i do think their friends and future partners deserve to know about this so that they can judge for themselves whether this post still holds true or if max's behavior has changed, and whether they want to be close to this person

#☢️

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thatbitchsimone · 8 months

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I love you I love you

Thank you thank you

It’s a long story of circle of abuse, I used to save her from my father hitting her and few years later I had to save myself from both of them hitting me

I truly believe she’s evil, not what she does to me but to others also, she beats and humiliates not only me but the maids too, the other siblings are not beaten, the brother sometimes rarely but he’s her worshipper so i don’t think he minds.

I will get a job soon but I don’t think I can move out, it’s not very common here you know, and my father is like a influential guy, but hopefully when I earn my own money and cut her off I’ll be happy, we have a big house so living separately is possible.

I found out something today and it made me sick to my stomach, I have my whole life faced disgusting men, but turns out my brother is also one of them, he is after all my fathers and mothers son. he is an Andrew tate fanboy btw so you can guess his entire personality by that lolllllll.

I am so sorry this is alot of stuff to hear on a site where you are supposed to have fun, I am sending you apology hugs, take care 🫂❤️

Btw have you read the bell jar by Sylvia plath? It’s so depressing it’s taking me months to finish HAHAHAH

that is fucking awful and yes, i dont even believe in the whole concept of evil (i was raised without religion in a completely secular country + im very into psychology so good vs evil is not part of my worldview lol) but some behaviors even i just have to describe as evil and ur mom fits that pretty well like abusing ur own children is fucking evil. i have empathy for her to some extent since her behavior is clearly the result of her being abused herself like u said but it gets clouded by the absolute disgust and hatred and rage i feel for her for letting herself become the abuser herself and keeping the circle of abuse going by passing it on to her children. its one thing to not have the strength or power to stop ur husband from abusing ur kids, but straight up joining in on the abuse is a whole other level of disgusting and im so sorry u have to experience this.

but i do have to say that u seem like a genuinely good person like i really feel like u have so much kindness and love in ur heart and u seem like a very strong, sensible and intelligent girl and i get a strong feeling that the cycle of abuse is gonna end with u (as in, u wont be carrying it on and u will break free from it and if u have kids in the future u will be a good and loving mom to them) and i just wanna acknowledge that bc thats amazing and inspiring and i admire u so much like i just have so much admiration for u right now like u are everything u are the moment u are the vibe

anyway, glad to hear that u at least live in a big house so that u can at the very least have some space from her even tho u live together. i get that its not as easy or simple as some ppl think to ”just move out” especially if u live in a very family oriented culture where its not the norm to do so on top of it all so i think the best thing to do currently is to just kind of try to stay out of her way and honestly just not even listen to the bullshit she says bc her insults are kinda meaningless tbh bc lets be real, if u were skinny she would just use something else to criticize u for. she just wants to put u down in any way she can no matter what u look like. u could probably look like a damn supermodel or movie star and she would still find something to pick on and put u down for, bc she has issues. shes disturbed. her words are empty and her opinions on u are just completely irrelevant. why should u care if a deranged abusive sadist doesnt ”approve” of ur body and size? this woman thinks its ok to mentally torment everyone around her, even HER OWN CHILDREN that she just so happens to not just verbally and emotionally abuse but straight up physically abuse. shes a child abuser. actual scum of the earth. like honestly next time she says something about ur body or calls u fat or whatever this psychopath likes to call u just remind urself that this woman is actually disturbed and sick in the head like shes literally a terrible human being lol who the fuck is she to criticize anyone like ok so u got a little extra meat on ur bones meanwhile she is a deranged sadistic child abuser. like girl whatever flaw u may have is nothing compared to the flaws she has like u are so far above her in every way that actually matters like ur literally so much better than her in every way like shes actually pathetic.

sorry about ur brother btw. seems like us women can never catch a break from these male parasites that are crawling around everywhere these days. they just keep getting worse and worse now with all the andrew tate shit brainwashing them. thank god we women have each others backs in this vile current climate. sisterhood is so important, especially now with all this crazy shit going around.

and yes ofc ive read the bell jar! read it for the first time when i was 16 and have reread it a few times since then. its one of those books that deeply resonates with nearly every woman who reads it even now generations later like its truly timeless in that way thats why its so good

#ur amazing i love u

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thedudequestions · 1 year

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I believe that god is consciousness. What does this mean?

I’ve had this belief since I was in highschool. Every single time I meditate my mind goes back to this thought and tries to dive deeper into this belief. When I get to a conclusion my mind says it is either correct or incorrect and coming out of my meditation I dont know if it is truly correct. It feels correct but I feel like I need to talk it out. So I found my old account and I decided I should completely redo it and start these blog discussion posts. I dont know how succesful it will be but I believe it can lead to something.

My question for today is, if god is consciouness then are there 2 seperate consciousness that can explain a persons good and bad behavior.

When I meditate I come to this conclusion that there are two consciousness that controls me. Much like yin and yang. I can have tendencies that come from both and truly being in the middle is where I can be a well rounded person. There is no part of my body or mind that is evil. They can be misguided but nothing truly being evil. Another questions arise if we believe this though. Would there be two seperate places where our consiouness go? What I have concluded is that this could very well be the case. Could these two places be what is called heaven and hell from certain religions. I don’t like to call these places heaven and hell as I think its just where the 2 consciousness goes.

My mom was in the hospital once and almost died, but she said she was in a place. A place that was dark and gloomy with dark figures all around her. It was devoid of feeling except depravity. When she looked up she said she saw a big ball of light that was far away. I always thought that these could be the two places consciousness goes.

What do you people think? Is there anything that I could be misinterpreting? Let me know your thoughts on this subject and have a discussion.

#consciousness #mind #questions #thoughts #meditation

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trinrose3 · 2 years

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I maybe wrong, but it seems Splinter is letting his own trauma guide him into parenting. The boys may remind him of the day he lost his humanity, so he watches TV over spending time with his children. He resented his family, so he neglected to properly teach them about their family history and how to wield their weapons. Splinter is just so fucking complicated. He was thrown into fatherhood so suddenly; all by his own choice, sure, but that doesn't mean he isn't going to struggle. Yes, he has most likely unintentionally emotionally neglectedthe boys, but that doesn't make him an evil abusive shitbag. An abuser is someone refuses to apologize or fakes their apology and goes right back to the abuse. Knowing his character, he would admit to his faults, ask what he can do to change that, and work hard to be better. And I believe he's already started doing this. (@bitchapalooza )

Yeah that seems to be the case! Does that still make his actions in the past okay? Absolutely not! You can understand where someone is coming from without excusing their behavior and acting like it never happened or that it was less bad/impactful because of their past.

Its also not like ALL of his actions weren't unintentional either tho.

Unfortunately it is a very prevalent issue, but a lot of people think that hitting children is okay. Its not. Full stop. Culture or youre own personal upbringing be damned. It's never okay to hit someone especially someone youre meant to love and care for, especially if theyre your child. I truly dislike how often its used for physical comedy and ROTTMNT is no exception to this. Whether its an issue on the writers part or if thats just genuinely a part of his character thats not something I feel like should be comfortably looked past.

Splinter really is a complicated character but its more of a disservice to act as if he doesnt have these flaws then it is to acknowledge them, Which is something that I see A LOT of fans do, which made me want to make that post in the first place.

He definetly seems to be taking steps in the right direction if the ending of season two was anything to go by. I guess well just never know if we dont get a season three GIJIRGHIRGSRH

#sorry if that was ranty lol

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aquagustd · 2 years

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i just want to say that i had a relationship similar to hie jk and oc. we fought so badly and said the worst things to each other but we always came back because it was what we were used to. its all about the forgiveness. being comfortable with the dysfunction is common unfortunately.

this story is very realistic in my eyes because to me they seem like theyre all so in deep with each other like on a soul level that regardless of how toxic it can be, one person is not necessarily more evil than the other. in other words, everyone thinks theyre justified. both jk and oc were young in love and that sticks so much to a person. im talking literally for ur whole life. feelings u cant help, merely because of the memories you shared and what you end up building together. jk is a broken person and so is she. not to mention now they have a kid! they literally cant get rid of each other for good unless they fight to the death. they also cant get past their old selves. hopefully they overcome that with compromise and work. depends on who wants to fully commit to that 🤷🏻‍♀️

finding love through trauma bonding is real!although not the healthiest, it is unpredictable and intense and passionate. i truly think that oc is not a fool she is just human. people forget how easy it can be to fall right back into a cycle of hurt if no one decides to change. their dynamic is different because they HAVE changed in some ways. maybe not completely but its progressing and it seems like the spark will always be there between jk and oc. they both obviously care at least an ounce about each other. just the subtle yearning is significant.

you can also love two people at the same time just in different ways. who you decide to build your relationship with doesnt mean u stop all feelings for someone else. with time love will be tested and all that matters is who will make who the happiest!! not excusing any of the horrible behavior, but everyone shows their ugliest sides when they dont know what they want from life. its just what it is. good news tho, i think almost all of the characters are fed up with the dysfunction and want peace. junho is a blessing because it takes everyones minds of themselves, and they selflessly think about that child. other than sora (lol) i truly believe that junho has both his parents and their friends rooting for him and want to step up to the plate so that can have a better life than any of them. junho comes first!!!

idk i like to think im an empath of some sort. well done on the update, cant wait to see how the rest of it develops. :) i love both ships tbh

-🐇anon💗

ahh bb literally everything you said 🥹 i teared up a bit ngl. the part where you said everyone has junho to try & take their minds of the dysfunction is so true 😭 not just oc & jk but also yoongi :(

whatever you said about jk & oc is true too !! no matter what, no matter how shitty the other person acts you just can’t help your feelings. especially when they were once a good person. you’re constantly thinking that the old them is still somewhere in there & that’s kind of how oc feels too. (even though she won’t say it)

i’m so happy you’re seeing hie for what it is !! & i’m so sorry to hear about your past relationship 🥺 i hope you’re doing better bun <3 and tysm for reading and always being so sweet !! ♡

#fic: hie #squishies #🐇 anon

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Ill respond in post form.

Men arent inherently evil, but society configuration and thousands of years of female oppression, has made them view women as inferior beings even after liberation in most countries. A chromosome pairing wont make you evil. Thats not what we believe in. So much of the government/police/every aspect of control is given to men that heinous crimes committed by men, large or small are unpunished under the law because the person judging them is also a male.

MASSIVE TW. name me a case, an incedent thats even half as bad as this case- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Junko_Furuta#:~:text=Junko%20Furuta%20(Japanese%3A%20%E5%8F%A4%E7%94%B0%20%E9%A0%86%E5%AD%90,raped%2C%20tortured%20and%20subsequently%20murdered.

name me something as bad as this- https://youtu.be/aVEK9bJZl7s?si=fsL5jRZLXre25qSB

name me 5 women to have acid attacked men.

there is a lot of leniency for men in regards to punishment. They are not inherently bad but an assumed superior sense of self and better living conditions in most of the world, and leniency in regards to bad behavior creates evil.

Nah i js debate in second person my bad homie. nyways yeah, I went a bit hardcore on trans people, because thats what YOU wanted to talk about. You mentioned trans ideology- "So I read. I read why people don't feel their body aligns with their mind, read their stories, their history, and as I read, I began to understand" from this point onwards everything you said was abt trans ppl. and the reason is i dont have much of an issue with transmasculine people, other than the fact a lot of them force gay men to be attracted to them. The space you get on comment sections is small, so I wanted to keep it to the point of what bothers me the most. Transmasculine people who hurt/coerce men are evil. Aside from those, I dont care about them. Ill help them if they want insight on detransition (i was a trans guy- not transmasculine but a trans guy for 1.5 yrs). And also they appropriate biological factors of men which is creepy as fuck. The reason Ion care about trans men that much is because they arent raping men and demanding access to mens prisons. the threat level isnt the same.

And im not arguing they are corrupting divine femininity. Im saying that despite trans women knowing what a woman is, and knowing that they and everyone they now emerged from one, and still pretending that they can grapple into it through accessible means is rude. The power to create life is divine, and again, that isnt to say women HAVE to bear children, ion want kids, but I wont undermine the strength to create life. My point lied in the course that trans women have their very existence as prove that they arent what they claim they are. It was a reasoning. and if you saw it, my last comment was to explain that women aint baby making machines. ill copy paste it here "and it may seem like im saying a woman must have kids, im not. Woman is a female. It isnt to say she must use her reproductive organs, they are just her configuration that make her a part of the female sex identified as women. Das it. Being a girl is the smallest part of me in terms of neutrality, its just a coin flip at birth. But it has gotten me discrimination through societal sexism. And with this blog I aim to talk about it. Ion want kids myself."

Its truly neutral and im claiming no superiority to men, im just celebrating the power of creation of life. and how every cell of my body, the heart beneath my skin was crafted by my mother.

state of something completely physiological cannot be an idea. you cannot imagine the feeling of possessing an organ you don't have. And cool, chromosome disorders exist, and to say a chromosome disorder, 1 in 80,000 means that men r women and women are men, is funny. very insightful of you! And a sex anomaly with 150 recorded cases is enough to prove that trans people, who dont have that disorder, are women. And dont devalue and use intersex people as pawns. Sex is binary but if a disorder is involved, it can be presented in variations. And people with mullerian duct are still classified as men regardless of the condition.

nuh uh!! He is not intended to create large gametes because he has external male genitalia. again sex anomalies exist, but within the binary. humans have a range of different disorders but we are still a sexually dimorphic species.

"A 38-year-old man was found to have a uterus, fallopian tubes, and a gonad in the left hernial sac during herniorrhaphy. The patient developed a left scrotal sac swelling postoperatively.

On physical examination, the right scrotal sac was empty. The left scrotal sac appeared boggy. The patient was phenotypically male, with male pattern of external genitalia and secondary sexual characteristics. The past history included primary infertility."

so disrespectful to use a disorder as confirmation of fantasy. Stop using intersex people as pawns.

"if one group has more rights doesnt mean the other will get less" baby. do you hear yourself? only one gender had the right to inherit property, only one gender had the right to sell the other. "Legally, her husband could demand that his wife’s lover pay him a large amount of money for having sexual relations with his wife, a right she lacked since courts didn’t allow wives to sue their husbands for adultery. Wife sales were a way to sidestep that risk."

only one gender had the right to education before the 1800's. only one gender had the right to work before the 1900s.

and what im saying is trans rights have become a large focus of funding and care of liberal feminism etc.

not all anti trans people are terfs for gods sake. and glad you brought up nazis!

receipts on your end, please. name terf nazis. I am against conservatives and nazis. Conservatives fucking suck. the enemy of my enemy is not my friend.

ion agree w that saying homeboy. trans people are people ARE the regressive group. male supremacy is when you oppress women for thousands of years for their biology and now turn around and say that our biology is a meaningless factor of their definition and can be morphed into

estrogen in males can cause- https://www.reddit.com/r/Transmedical/comments/1aw0nsg/my_doctor_told_me_my_tumor_was_most_likely_from/

testosterone in women can cause- https://austinurogynecology.com/blog/do-you-have-an-enlarged-clitoris-from-testosterone-replacement-therapy/

men can be feminine, and implying that that femininity means that they need to transition into women is regressive. masculine women having to transition into men for their masculinity is regressive. being a man or a woman is just physiological and thats it. its 100% neutral and means nothing in perspective. its society that said if one has a vagina they need to be a submissive home decoration. no parts/biology dictates personhood. a man can do anything and everything he wants and he will still be a man. a woman can do anything and everything she wants and she will still be a woman. We are all sentient beings with our biology as the least defining part of us, but to say that it means nothing in our political and social classification is unintelligent.

@hootenannyskeleton

#radblr #radical feminist safe #radical feminism #radfem #radical feminists do interact #radical feminist community #trans exclusionary radical feminist #terfsafe #radical feminists do touch #radical feminists please touch #terfism #terfblr #gender critical #long post #some tw along the way

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you are all so annoying. i thought the whole point of feminism is that women are just like men. the whole point isnt that women are all precious good, do no evil beings. women can be evil too because women are just as much people as men are, and people are sometimes evil. women can be 100% evil pieces of shit. thrusting a sword into a wax figure of margaret thatcher is not violence against women, it’s violence against an evil human being who just happened to be a woman because guess what, women can be evil too. you’re not doing feminism any favors by acting like women are Angels incapable of doing anything wrong and not like, human beings capable of evil to the same extent that men are

#and hell it isnt even violence against a real woman its a fucking wax figure anyway #get over yourselves #Truly. can we treat women like human beings #men dehumanize women by deducing us down to our biology and demeaning us as inferior #but yall weirdos also dehumanize women by making us seem 100% faultless Can Do No Wrong #like guess what! defining women in ANY way that removes our individual characteristics and faults also dehumanizes us!#yeah its in the complete opposite direction as to how men do it but you're literally not doing feminism any favors by continuing the idea #that like woman cant just be People #and yeah margaret thatcher is an extreme example but like. even in every day life its like. women are PEOPLE #people MAKE MISTAKES. people can be EVIL.#why do we allow men to be PEOPLE but women must always be Women #anyway. thrust swords through wax figures of margaret thatcher . she deserves it #brot posts #and i guess the same argument could be made by acting like Every Single Man is 100% soulless and evil #like yes criticize the institution of patriarchy and acknowledge the fact that (white) men hold the most privilege in society #and acknowledge how such privilege can influence people's subconscious biases but like #literally dont paint the Inherent Nature of All Men as like. inherently predatory and violent #this biological determinism ahs to stop. women are not inherently good and men are not inherently evil #yes we're shaped by the society we live in adn those unconscious biases shape our behavior but like #its not like you have some good/evil switch that is turned on or off based on your gender #and frankly! this language plays into transmisogyny! like this kinda language is directly utilized by terfs

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antiloreolympus · 3 years

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10 Anti LO Asks

1. The trial happening right now bothers me because we get to see how Thanatos and Echo reacted to this, but Demeter and Persphone don’t know and I know why they don’t know yet. However you think that would tie some more stuff up together

It was Minthe, Thanatos and Thetis who whistle blew on Persphone. Meaning Thanatos would probably be called to trial and would have to face persphone and I would hope say something to her BUT I kinda doubt that’s gonna happen.

But the other thing to this Minthe is a plant who can’t testify. Are hades and Persphone hide the fact she’s a plant and pretend she’s missing or are they gonna say “yeah I still don’t have control over my powers but I’m queen now” HOWEVER I truly believe RS is just gonna not address these two plot points until way later.

FINALLY Eros and Psyche KNOW the last person Daphne was seen with was Apollo, did they chase after her after he got shot by the arrow? We don’t know. We don’t even know what they’re doing about Psyche. Did Eros and Psyche even see the Daphne tree? Are they going to try and sneak in to tell Persphone?

I know the plots gonna focus more on HxP secret marriage at the court trial rather than the actual consequences and the fact people are turning into greenery left and right. (It’s not Persohones Faullt Daphne is the way she is but RS needs to focus on other plot points I feel)

2. like, age gaps, height differences, and power imbalances dont always have to be bad, the issue to me is that the way rachel does it is hyper-focusing on how young, small, and child-like/unexperienced persephone is compared to the old, giant, and all powerful/mature hades is like ... yeah obvs people are going to find it creepy? how would they not?

3. i honestly cant stand the "theyre immortal gods the age gap doesnt matter!!" agreement because like??? ok??? then she could easily be 300 years old then? she shouldnt be so borderline underage then?? like the immortality aspect actually makes the age gap worse, not better??

4. i realize getting nitpicky over unimportant characters in lo having american names is a bit dumb, but it does speak to just how lazy rachel is and how little care she has for greece and its mythology. there are countless english names that are also greek, yet even that's asking too much of her. percy jackson isnt a perfect series, but even the characters (who are in america) have greek influence and meanings put into their names and characterization, something rachel doesn't even attempt to do.

5. ok but thats a good point, because rachel seems to be taking physical wounds to matter more over the mental ones, when thats not how trauma works. her writing on zeus is reflective of her writing minthe, where she confirmed she has a severe untreated mental illness and that's linked to her evilness, and thus what she should be punished for. meanwhile persephone own mental issues can be bastardized as a "yass queen" thing?? somehow?? its just bad writing all around.

6. i kinda wish lo fans would listen to their own logic and give the same leeway to the other characters. theyll scream from the rooftops that hades and persephone and hera can be awful people all they want because thats ~realistic~, meanwhile minthe and zeus and everyone else are held to such extremes they can never meet and are hated and despised for nothing in compared to hxp or hera. either hold your faves accountable or let off on hating characters who do the same as them.

7. i see a lot of lo fans excuse how everything drags as "thats how a slow burn works" and its like ... no? because most of that slow burn isnt even hxp, its rachel forcing in more plots we dont need, and when its hxp, you look at the timeline and how they act and its actually neck-breakingly fast? like if as much time had past in LO as irl time then yeah, four years is a slow burn, but its only been maybe a month in comic? so its not slow for them at all, but it's a drag for the readers.

8. See, the difference between Lo!Hades and Punderworld!Hades is that PW!Hades has so much personality, he and Persephone are literally bustling with life (even though one of them rules over a realm of dead XD) AND their interactions are so cute with their awkward attempts at flirting and failure at doing so. Persephone is still somewhat sweet and “pure” but she’s also a bit of a spitfire, she’s not easy to surrender, she has wants and dreams and that little differences makes her character likable!

We NEVER get to see anything like that with LO!Hades and Persephone, we don’t see them have these sweet interactions, these heart-fluttering moments, because there’s no base or foundation for those sorts of moments! It’s always these very out-of-character unrealistic scenes expected from a married couple, but they just met! It doesn’t feel natural, it feels forced and rushed and so slow at the same time.

Although Punderworld makes Demeter overbearing, i love her characterization i really do, waAAAY more than LO!Demeter, because we actually understand her reasons for her overprotective behavior and we get to see her in a more sympathetic light/manner in the newer chapters, we see her as more than “mean mom hates bf”

9. Daphne and Thanatos were adorable. Like, Daphne was a sweet, caring girl with genuine interest (and power/agency) and Thanatos was a shy, awkward guy who was just doing his best (and not pressuring her). They weren't perfect, but it was something! Why couldn't LO be about them?

10. What I find funny is that Minthe and Thetis have a more defined friendship than Persphone and other female characters.

Minthe and Thetis ARE TOXIC don’t get me wrong but both characters are aware of each other’s motives. Minthe knows not to trust Thetis fully and is straight with her on her opinion of Thetis. But the readers clearly know their relationship as well as the characters.

Persphone is in gray areas with most her female friends. The beginning of the story we are lead to believe Artemis and P are besties with the dress sharing and the way in P’s mind they’re holding hands with Hermès. But clearly now their relationship is a question mark and they’re both more detached than we thought. Artemis was just being nice to P letting her stay with her because they’re both in the TOGeM but they’re probably more like acquaintes at best.

Daphne and P we know they’re friends but P isn’t straight with her. Like Daphne is P’s only named friend, but did P think of her as the other overbearing nymphs? We don’t know because they’re all pink and some of them are dead. Despite being told they grew up together we don’t even know much about their relationship what do they like about each other? Does Daphne agree with Demeters parenting or P’s need to leave? When did Daphne get to move to Olympus? I feel like the plot just says “these two characters are friends “ but doesn’t elaborate much. Why did P let Daphne in her room at Hades mansion and not the other nymphs? P told Daphne that Apollo is dangerous, but it was a little too late. Also why didn’t P have her phone number when she got to Olympus? Wouldn’t she know to contact her on insta or something? P was like “omg I know no one except Hermès “ but that’s not true! Daphne! I could go more but I think we get the picture that Daphne’s plot point is having the readers be told Persphone has friends but she doesn’t but she does.

Were shown that P and Meg are getting along because P was nice to Meg, despite Meg being silently jealous of P, but what about Meg now? Is she ever gonna tell P that she’s jealous of P that she had a mad crush on Hades, even her journal? Or is that all gone now? Does Meg even matter any more or is she now here just to support HXP?

#anti lo #anti lore olympus #lore olympus critical #lo critical

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wolfboyvirus · 4 years

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Concepts that Megamind (2010) represented incredibly well but got no attention for

Societal expectations and their traumatic effects on adults and children alike ("I'm the bad guy. I don't save the day, I don't fly off into the sunset, and I don't get the girl.")

The lasting effects of bullying and being bullied (such as: self-consciousness, depression, anxiety, and just general unhappiness)

Treating others differently based on physical differences (commonly grouped into the broader term of racism, though it isn't necessarily the same thing)

And the consequences of such behavior never being corrected until it's too late

Nature vs nurture

The horror of incels/nice guys, and the daily struggle that they bring to women. Especially when, in this society, there's a big chance that the woman would just be accused of "overreacting" and "getting too emotional" when she reports it to someone

Every single character in this movie has absorbed some bad concept into their personality (even innocent little Minion), and they can't even really be blamed. It's the same for basically everyone in real life, too, which is pretty sad. Its just that humanity itself has somehow gotten so bad that these ideas have become justified, and nobody really knows any better until its way too late.

And now for some quotes that explain the general idea much better than i ever could in my own words

"There's a benefit to losing: you get to learn from your mistakes."

"Maybe I don't want to be the bad guy anymore!"

"Funny; I guess destiny is not the path given to us, but the path we choose for ourselves."

"Even the most heartfelt belief can be corroded over time!"

"Sorry, sorry! He's just not used to positive feedback!"

I know the last two were used for comedic purposes, but they're actually pretty meaningful when you look closely

Bonus: Megamind: The Button of Doom

Anxiety

More anxiety

All the anxiety

Fearing not doing something correctly, and trying to copy someone else so you don't fuck it up (Ex: a newbie artist copying someone's art because they don't think people would like their art style)

Did i mention anxiety

Embracing yourself for who you are and what you've done, even if you've done some pretty bad things in your past

Speaking of past, i feel like Megamind fighting his old evil robot and winning by making his big realization about being himself is a metaphor about fighting the demons of his past. The robot would be representing Megamind's past, the villainy and the bullying and all, and his victory is supposed to represent him starting over, and understanding that he doesn't have to be the evil alien screw-up anymore. He has a choice, now, a chance to be what he truly wants to be, and this first victory of his is telling us that he's sure as hell gonna take it. It's amazing how that all works out, isn't it?

TL;DR: Megamind is incredible and speaks on a lot of ignored problems that you rarely see represented in movies made for the demographic that Dreamworks aims to entertain. Okay thanks for coming to my ted talk bye

(I was planning on making a much more detailed version of this but i dont feel like writing the 3 page essay required to fully describe my thoughts about this awesome movie so you can have this)

#megamind #we really do live in a society huh #movie review #sort of #the farther i got into this post the more i realized how absolutely fucked up humanity is #also megamind is amazing but there's nothing new there #why is this movie so fucking underrated smh #i blame despicable me

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I m just having these random thoughts. Like tae has always been very clingy and affectionate with other members like jhope or rm or jin or even jk. Whereas wgen it comes to vmin its mostly jimin being clingy. Like u can see even when vmin sit together its mostly jimin touching him or clinging to him whereas when they sit with others while jimin is equally touchy tae becomes clingier. Its so wierd and i dont know what to think.

Looking at the history of vmin from beginning until now (here’s an amazing timeline post by romanticdrift you should check out), in the first couple of years both of them were clingy and affectionate with each other, but also rough and lacking the experience that came with age of how to properly communicate with each other about their feelings and thoughts and in general. So, while in the beginning they just had fun with it, some of it being for show to entertain ARMY, some not, it’s true that things have evolved over the years and nowadays they are very different from how they used to be in like 2013, for example. That isn’t a bad thing though. It’s a natural progressing even.

Besides, Jimin and Hoseok are the two most physically affectionate members, that’s true, but just because that’s their love language (at least in primary free content, yet in paid content like ITS or BV, have you noticed how suddenly even they are way less physically affectionate, how the members don’t feel the need to constantly cling to each other, hug and touch each other, and rather just spend time together doing something or being in the same room doing their own things while enjoying each other company), we can’t expect everyone to have the same one. For instance, Yoongi is more about showing acts of service toward his members as a way of showing them how much he cares about them and loves them, it’s his love language. Does that make his affection for them any less valuable than when Jimin is clingy with another member?

If you look at how Tae’s behavior has fluctuated across 2020 due to obvious reasons in the first half while settling down and turning happier in the second half, you’ll notice that he’s in general “calmed down” with how affectionate in a physical way he is with the other members. He’s still silly and making jokes with them when he’s in a good mood, he still touches and shows physical affection toward Jimin, like in the RUN episode with Chef Baek and the rice cooker moment, yet there are also times when he simply doesn’t want to do that. It’s not a bad thing, and it also doesn’t have to say anything at all about the state that vmin’s bond is at. It runs so much deeper than some physical touch caught on camera during a 35-minute RUN episode, or lack thereof in some other content.

Jimin and Taehyung worked so hard and over a long period of time for the bond they have now, especially since they did it not as BTS Jimin and BTS V, but as Kim Taehyung and Park Jimin, the real-life people. They put in a lot, and I mean a LOT, of emotional and physical labor into creating and strengthening this bond they’ve always had (in some form or another) because they saw something in each other, saw that they’d found their person in each other and wanted to make it work despite their differences, despite hard times making not only their lives hard but also putting their bond to a grueling test, and at the end here we are today where their bond is literally one of the closest and strongest bonds I’ve ever seen.

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Now, imagine you put that much into a relationship (and for this argument the only viable reason for why they behave this way and guard this so fiercely is because there’s something romantic here since why else would they be so protective about their bond and “hide” it so much?) would you really want to showcase it so obviously to people, strangers who only wait for reasons (even if there aren’t any actual ones) to be vicious and nasty toward you? Just to see people drag your bond through the mud, to insult it, belittle it, and write it off as “fanservice” (even more than they already do) even though it’s something so precious to you, even though this person is your person, your soulmate, your special someone you want to keep at your side until you’re grandpas?

I highly doubt it.

And that’s where the difference lies. Yes, all the bonds in BTS are strong and special in their own rights, but what Jimin and Taehyung have, that is something so rare, so precious, so once in a lifetime, yet also something they worked so hard and long for and on, who would want to “sell” it to the public? Wouldn’t you, too, want to keep it safe and close to your heart? Think of Taehyung’s lyrics from the song he posted and then deleted off of twitter, of him wanting to protect his love from those with evil tongues, to save his love and save himself with an umbrella, think of the drawing from the Snow Flower cover of the boy protecting the flower with an umbrella from the snow. Wouldn’t you, too, want to protect someone who is this special to you, with whom you share such a special bond, from the horrendous opinions and words of others?

It’s easy to be affectionate with people who are your best friends, your found family, your brothers, and showing that to people, but showing the same with someone so important to you, with whom you share a different level and kind of connection, it’s a completely different story.

Besides, we still get glimpses of it from time to time, we see their affection for each other, and yes, it’s different, it might come across as weird to some, but that doesn’t make it any less meaningful and their bond any less real and deep than any other bond within BTS. Does the closeness of two members truly only depend on their on-camera affection, yet the moment it’s something we only hear about yet not see, therefore is something off camera and not for us to view, somehow not exist and not matter?

At the end of the day, we know so little about their private lives, and much of what you see and hear about from some is just speculations, some of which are f*cked up to say the least in regard to some other pairings within BTS, and yet the things we do hear about their private lives come from their own mouths, especially in connection to vmin, are immediately dismissed and ignored because…because some loud part of the fandom just decides that that’s how it is and everyone else is meant to just follow their opinion, I guess?

That’s not right, we know that and, in a way, I’m sure they do as well, but they follow their own agenda, one we don’t have to follow or agree with. What they do is their thing, but as vminnies, we know what we know, we see what we see, so instead of looking what everyone else is doing, why don’t we do as they do and stick to our opinions, our feelings, everything we know about Jimin and Taehyung, as individuals and as pair, and feel happy for them but also happy for ourselves because we got to witness them grow into the people they are today, in general but also with each other. Isn’t that much more valuable than some short touch of a thigh or a teasing joke?

I know it’s easy to fall into the pattern of comparing, especially when it comes to the amount of content you get etc, but just because others want to impose their bad shipper habits on us and take how supposedly real a pairing is solely based on “”moments”” and turn it into something akin to a di*k measuring contest, who’s to say we have to participate? Besides, regardless of which shipper camp wins, it has no effect on the actual idols, says nothing about their actual real-life bonds. They are the only ones who know the true nature of their bonds and their depths, so looking at everything we know about vmin, things they’ve shared with us through visuals and words, do we really have any reason to feel insecure about our opinions? What reason do we have to think of how much or how little affection and clinginess they show toward each other in on-camera moments as the be all, end all evidence and standard of their bond? When we know how much they’ve worked for this, how much they matter to each other, enough so to cry and laugh together, to sing a song about it co-written and co-produced by Jimin, for Tae to write 4 O’Clock and many more, and for them to decide to want to stay together forever? In the face of all that, is it really that imperative for us to see them share affection on camera, for them to be clingy?

Isn’t everything else we have, these more than eight years’ worth of friendship and more, isn’t that enough for us to see and know their worth to each other?

And sure, there are moments where they are clingy, where they are affectionate with each other, so isn’t that enough? Do we really need more, or some kind of elaborate explanation for why it is that way or not a different one? Besides, they aren’t eighteen-year-old boys and rookies anymore, they are grown men who want to be seen and treated as musicians, Grammy nominated ones at that, who have learned how to communicate their love for each other in a way they are most comfortable and happy with, so do they really need to cling to each other on camera? No. They don’t owe us visual proof of their bond, don’t owe us visual reminders of their bond either.

The fact that we still get glimpses of their bond is a wonderful thing and I’m grateful for it. Generally, the fact that we get to see and witness so much of the members lives is something we should treat as special and not as a requirement, like a quota they need to fulfill. They could only ever show up during comebacks and promotions, but instead we get so much, just yesterday we had Jimin spend time on weverse replying to so many posts and even coming back a second time a little while later into the night, also replying twice to posts about Tae.

From anon: I think that, especially Taehyung, has succumbed to restrictions and fan service and the falsification of everything. This is the problem with the entire Makne lineage. Maybe they are all very real with each other in their personal lives, but in front of the camera they all seem very scripted. Because of that, I think Vmin does not present himself in front of the camera and does not want any fan service. What do you two think about it? Thanks for great posts!

This is another ask we got a while ago that I think fits thematically. Even more so when you consider that many consider anything vmin do together just fanservice, thus belittling and cheapening their bond in such a blatant and awful way despite having no right to do so. I’m sure vmin know about all of this, have seen the comments since they are everywhere, so it can’t possibly be fun or pleasant at all. You could argue that they could just not care about what people say, could just not care about how their interactions are viewed as fanservice, but that is way easier said than done when there is practically no escaping those comments at this point.

There’s a shipping rule, so to speak, especially when it comes to real people ships, that you are to keep your shipping away from them and keep it somewhere where they don’t see it. That rule has long been broken, burned and turned into micro particles that can never be put together again. And we know that’s a fact because we literally had Tae tell a shipper off on Weverse, something that usually never happens. But it did. Not that it changed anything or had any kind of effect, but it’s more about the gesture itself.

As for the scripted part, of course much is scripted but not because they are fake, their personas are fake, and the whole BTS are family thing is fake, but because their words have weight. Their actions have weight. Everything they say and do is put on a scale, measured and accounted for, analyzed, theorized and twisted one way or another. While they could be wild during rookie years, now that they’ve reached this unprecedented level of fame for Korean artists, that’s not possible anymore. They have to be careful, have to be on guard during certain content, have to put their very best foot forward at all times. It’s hard. Incredibly hard. We’ve seen them struggle with it, but that’s how it is. And when you struggle, it’s easier to have a script, even just a loose one, you can follow to make it easier, to make you less unsure or keep yourself from overthinking everything you say or do.

One thing that is incredibly important to remember is that when they are on camera, they are at work, they are BTS Jimin and BTS V, BTS RM and BTS JIN, and while parts of their real personalities are also part of their BTS personas, it’s still work, not free time. Especially during interviews or performances, while backstage getting ready to go on stage, or while going from schedule to schedule. Think about it this way, vmin are affectionate and clingy and loud about their bond in places where we see them, so now think about how loud they must be in places where we don’t see them, in their private lives?

Enough so for none of the members to laugh or react or comment on how casually Tae spoke about wanting Jimin to come sleep next to him. And enough so that Hoseok said that the person Jimin shows aegyo toward the most is Tae (though I’ve seen at least three different translations for this moment, the one I mentioned, another one that translates it as Jimin being spoiled the most by Tae, and yet another as Jimin treating Tae as big baby) in one of the Japanese interviews (NTV Buzz Rhythm) in July 2020, Yoongi nodding in agreement, the mention of that making Tae flustered (?) and want to downplay it a little by acting ‘surprised’ and asking “(To) me?”. This, too, is something we don’t see that often (anymore) yet it obviously must be there if Hoseok mentioned it and the others agreed with him. And at the end of the day, the members truly do know them, far better than any of us ever will. Or that time at the airport where Jimin waited for Tae and they only started to hold hands when they must’ve thought no one would be able to see it. Do things like this not sufficiently show that there are simply things they don’t want to show us? And thus, shouldn’t we simply respect their choices?

And even if they are calmer now, less clingy, less ‘showy’, we still got a bed selca they took while hidden behind their legs and blankets creating as though a wall so the ITS cameras didn’t see them, with a caption that…well, opens up some interesting implications (positive ones, of course).

Let me end this post on this: if vmin were just friends, or even if they weren’t friends anymore like some so vehemently insist is the case, surely there would be no issue for them to show their just friendship the way they show it with the other members, be clingy and affectionate in physical ways, possibly even just play a role of bestest buddies like some idols supposedly do, and yet they don’t do that. So, since they don’t do it, the only plausible reason I can see for it is that they simply have something between them that they want to hide and that it’s valuable enough to them that they want to guard and protect it, that makes their bond different from the bonds they have with the other members.

#answered ask #vmin #Jimin #Taehyung #somehow this wasn't supposed to be this long and yet it still turned out this way #discussion

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