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wigglepiggle · 8 months
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ok ik i deleted my msm sideblog and everything but like ohhh my god the mythicals ohhh my goodness BUZZINGABUZIZNG A BUZGN.MHUZINGANGKOWMANG LOW ANGLO W HYSHEHE KNIRV KNURV
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krpk-remaking · 6 years
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Dr Sex Epic Character - maxx @maxxeruz
Leorio Paladinight is easily one of the most underrated hxh characters, both within the fandom, merch and the manga itself, because he really is the most normal out of the main four and i really think he should be appreciated more because hes a great character!
Once again, shoutout to Mags @senritsus for helping with this! Go follow him!!
Im gonna be talking about Leorios Character, where his arc will go, and his connection with Kurapika. This is gonna be a little harder than writing Kurapika meta, since theres (sadly) a lot less Leorio content and we know a lot less about his background but ill try my best! Leorio deserves it.
Reading my Kurapika meta might make this a little more enjoyable, since i touched on Leorios and Kurapikas relationship more in depth there but you can read this post without reading it!
1 . Leorios Personality And His Past
When we first meet Leorio, hes introduced as a stupid, greedy and quick to anger Pervert, not an uncommon trope for a comedic relief character in anime. Those comedic relief characters often lack personality beyond that, a fact that is actually commented on by Kurapika.
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But thanks to Kurapika, about seven chapters in, we learn more about Leorio and his motivations and as the manga goes on, it becomes obvious that there is way more to Leorio than just someone whos there for comedic relief.
Leorio grew up in (presumably extreme) poverty, loosing a friend due to their lack of money, motivating him to want to become a doctor whos able to help people for free.
"I'm a simple guy. Figured I'd become a doctor... so I could cure some kid with the same disease, tell his parents they owed me nothing! Me... A doctor! Now there's a joke!! Do you know how much it costs to even try to become a doctor? The mind boggles!! It's always about money! Always!! That's why I want it!"
Knowing this, Leorios character already gains a lot of depth. Sadly, the manga doesnt mention when exactly his friend died but the 2011 Anime follows the manga more closely so ill go with the fact that his friend died when they were younger. Most of Leorios actions can be explained with the guilt he feels over the death of his friend, how useless he often feels and the way his upbringing in poverty affected him, for example at the very beginning, the fight he picks with Kurapika stems from the fact that Kurapika didnt respect him and was acting as if he was better than him.
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Leorio absolutely hates feeling like hes at a disadvantage, or like someone is looking down on him, probably due to getting little respect during his childhood due to his poverty. This also just might be the reason for him to constantly dress in a suit, something that rich, important people often wear. He often overplays his pride, puts up a facade and the way he presents himself really just screams overcompensation in so many ways
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Here, he gets upset at Killua because he feels disadvantaged once again. This feeling of inferiority is often the reason for the fights Leorio has with Kurapika and in this instance Killua, he absolutely hates being looked down on. The Other reason he fights with someone early on is, because they dont value life in his eyes, for example the old woman who was asking them to choose between two human lives, toying with them per say, and not valuing them.
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Leorio values human life, especially those of his friends over everything else and has a strong sense of Morality, since he did acknowledge he was in the wrong and apologized to the old lady.
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When Hisoka was playing with the lives of the others during the hunter exam, as well as Leorios and his friends, Leorio got upset once again and, knowing just how powerful Hisoka was attacked him anyways with no regard for his safety.
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He mentions “being toyed with” twice, something people do with people they look down on/are stronger than, where Leorios hate of feeling inferior once again comes back to show.
But, While Leorio absolutely hates being regarded worse than everyone, he also dislikes being viewed as someone whos better than everyone and gets very embarassed everytime someone compliments him/shows him positive attention. This is either due to the fact that he isnt used to it, or that he doesnt think he deserves it (note how hes always drawn with an embarassed blush).
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Leorio is a very selfless man, whos ready to do everything in his power to help his friends because he doesnt want to ever lose another friend again. During the election arc, he focuses his entire speech around wanting to help Gon and uses his power to call for everyone to try and help Gon,
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when Illumi manipulates Killua into killing during the hunter exam arc, Leorio is ready to give up his hunter licence for Killua,
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And, being well aware of what Illumi was capable of, refused to let him through the door to protect Gon.
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reassured Killua, showing his intense care for his friends (and little kids since Killua had actually not even been that nice to him),
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When Killua had to fight against the serial killer, before they knew about his real strength, Leorio assured him that he wouldnt have to fight,
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he willingly risked his life and let hundreds of snakes bite him just to warn Kurapika and Gon and to assure their chances of success, and before that tried to disband their team so they could still advance if he failed,
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and, without any fear, they couldve sense that, stared down and yelled at the phantom troupe.
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Leorio hates feeling useless and despite that, often does. He felt useless when his friend died and thus decided to become a doctor to cope with this guilt, he felt useless when Gon was sick, like his friend, and he couldnt do anything once again and he feels useless when Kurapika wont let him help him and wont let him reach out but despite that he keeps trying, to fight his guilt, to make sure that Kurapika is safe and to do his best to help.
He describes studying to become a doctor as something he does for himself, he doesnt see that notion, becoming a doctor to help people for free, as something selfless that should be admired.
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He doesnt see becoming a doctor as something that he should brag with or that people should know. When he first meets Gon and Kurapika he puts up the front of wanting money to buy cars, mansions, wine, etc, all things one usually would want with money, when he really wanted the money to study so he could help people. Leorio thinks hes useless and good for nothing while everyone else fights and he just “selfishly” studies, but hes not useless at all and obviously studying to become a doctor to help the poor isnt something thats selfish at all. Maybe his motivations, to deal with his guilt over losing a friend, are a little selfish but the fact that he even blames himself and that he copes by trying to protect and value life wherever he can show that Leorio himself isnt a selfish person, hes someone whos ready to put his life on the line for his friends and others any day, despite being less reckless than the other three.
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He sees Kurapikas quest for revenge as something noble, while he thinks very little of himself. Even during the election arc, after he had come into second and third place multiple times he was still convinced, somehow, that no one was gonna vote for him.
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Even Ging a very experienced and talented hunter, though he is a terrible person, thinks highly of Leorio,
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even copying the punch he threw at him, which Leorio, as Ging theorizes, mightve developed to get rid of tumors that are unreachable with operation, showing just how smart Leorio really is.
Leorio is someone whos been alone a lot and, while hes the least reckless and best at selfcare out of all four protagonists, had little regard for himself in especially the first arc, where he just kept jumping into dangerous situation. An explanation for that could be, that he had no one to care about and no one that cared about him before he went to take the hunter exam since weve never actually heard about any family he had or has. He could possibly be an orphan, explaining the missing mention of any family and the extreme attachment he has to Gon, Killua and Kurapika.
Him being orphaned would also perfectly fit into hunter x hunters theme of finding new family after losing another, Kurapika losing his entire clan, Gon losing his father, Killua losing his entire family except Alluka since his family is terrible and as good as dead to him and Leorio just never having really had one. So, the reason he becomes a little more responsible in arcs after the hunter exam is probably, that he finally had people to care about again, that also cared about him so now he doesnt feel like no one would miss him if he died anymore.
In short, Leorio, while being extremely selfless, caring, fearless, moral and empathic, thinks very little of himself and often feels useless and selfish. He cares most about the well being of his friends and has deep rooted feelings of guilt about the death of his friend, even though it was out of his control and he doesnt believe that his goal to be a doctor or really just he himself is deserving of any praise.
His wish to be a doctor is a mix of that extreme internalized guilt from “letting” his friend die, his selflessness that just got pushed up by the guilt and the empathy he gained by growing up in poverty and the first hand experience on why exactly free healthcare is needed.
2. Leorios Relationship With Kurapika, His Guilt, And How His Arc Could End
I wont go in depth about them here, since i already have one that multiple times but they truly are so, so important to eachother and are in many ways two sides of the same coin. Both of them have lost people close to them and theyve dealt with it in such different ways. It made Leorio want to protect life and heal people, focusing his nen around helping others (see: the punch he used being something he actually developed to deal with tumors) and it made Kurapika want to destroy life and kill people, taking revenge and destroying himself in the process, mirrored within his nen ability too (as it literally kills him to use emperor time, one hour of his life for every second). So this set-up, combined with the guilt Leorio feels over not being able to help his friend or Gon, combined with how important they are to eachother, combined with how the current arc has the both together on that boat, I feel like it would really make sense for Leorio to finally be able to save someone, furthering his character arc in a very satisfying way and also helping Kurapikas arc, letting him accept help from others and becoming less self destructive.
“Leorio is an unabashedly selfless character who very deliberately centered his life around helping others and the thought that he cant do that with Kurapika is definitely something he tries to take blame for.” (directly quoted from mags @senritsus <3) If something were to happen to Kurapika while Leorio is near and on top of that on doctor duty, where helping people is his only job, i couldnt imagine the guilt Leorio would feel. Hes always been looking out for Kurapika since they became close friends (and maybe the nearest thing to a best friend either had had in years) during the hunter exam and Kurapika did always try to be someone who calmed Leorio and helped him be more rational, though that changed when he began his down spiral after killing his first person and they drifted further apart and Leorio took on the job of calming down Kurapika.
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Kurapika calming Leorio VS
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Leorio calming Kurapika
Kurapika is in desperate need of saving and having Leorio be that person to save him would be so perfect for both of their arcs.
This arc already set up the tension in their relationship at the very beginning, or atleast before the succession war began and i do believe it has to be resolved (relatively) soon, especially because of this (once again my favorite) panel, showing Leorio as one of the four people Kurapika cares most about.
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And, to quote my Kurapika meta post about this panel, Hes thinking about moments where they made him happy/made him care about them, Gon and Killua with their food fight in the park where they cheered him up and Leorio on the phone. Its him calling to check up on Kurapika. Kurapika really did appreciate it so much, even if he doesnt show it, even if he keeps pushing Leorio away. And he does care about them, even if he doesnt want to! The way Leorio expresses care for his friends, which is very vocal and direct, is so good for Kurapika because even if he still cant really believe or accept it, its still something he appreciates, somehow. I am not (!) saying that they will definitely end up with eachother but they are definitely incredibly important to the others character development and i dont think Togashi will forget about that.
If youve read all this, thank you so so much i really appreciate it! Leorio is an incredible Character that deserves more love and i hope everything i wrote here is coherrent!! If i made any mistakes or if you just have any thoughts youd like to share on this topic please send me an ask! <3
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lesbianbruabba · 5 years
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Answer all the qs! Unless theres any you don’t want to do
Mobile so these are ugly sowwy
1:Let’s start with a tricky one; what is the real reason you are confused right now?
Well I just spent my night watching exurb1a that p much explains it
2:Do you ever get “good morning” texts from anyone?
Sometimes?
3:If your significant other smoked pot, would you care?
I’m pro legalization but if it’s an addiction obviously I’d try and prevent further damage. If it’s well controlled i don’t mind.
4:Do you find it easy to trust others?
I trust too easily so yeah
5:What were you doing at 11PM last night?
Watching exurb1a, or wanking, or looking at takeouts on Deliveroo
6:You’re drunk and lost walking down the road; who is with you?
Probably my brother or one of my best friends
7:What would you do if you found out you had been cheated on?
Cry
8:Are you close with your dad?
Fairly close imo. But we have a lot of opposing views and I have to try and overlook those.
9:I bet you kissed someone last night, right?
No?
10:What are you listening to?
Magic by Coldplay @samrull can suck my dick
11:You can only drink ONE liquid for the rest of your life - what is it?
Cum fanta lemon
12:Do you like hickeys?
YES unless they’re on my boobs then NO bc I used to have like massive ones and I couldn’t sleep on my back
13:What time do you go to bed?
Hahahhahahahaaha you must be new here
14:Is there someone who continuously lets you down?
My mother
15:Can you text as quickly with one hand as you do both?
Yea
16:Do you always answer your texts?
Most of the time unless I’m tired
17:Do you hate the person you fell the hardest for?
No
18:When was the last time you talked to one of your best friends?
Like a few minutes ago with Iza bc I pester her a lot
19:Is there someone that makes you happy every time you see them?
My little brother and all my best friends
20:What was your last thought before you went to bed last night?
I went to bed yesterday morning but my last thought was ‘I love Tom Holland’
21:Is anyone else in the room with you?
No. I don’t think so
22:Do you believe what goes around comes around?
No
23:Were you happier four months ago than you are now?
Yes. On the 30th December I was probably hanging out with my brother.
24:Is there someone you wish you could fix things with?
A few. Some are beyond repair, others are just lost chances.
25:In the past week, have you cried?
Lmao. Yeah. A lot.
26:What colour is the shirt you are wearing?
White with pink and blue argyle patterns
27:Do people ever call you by your last name?
No. I would hate that
28:Is anyone ignoring you right now?
Probably? Idk
29:Do you have a best friend?
I have 7 bitch
30:Would it be hard seeing someone else kiss the last person you kissed?
No
31:Who was your last call/text message from?
Iza
32:Are you mad at anyone?
Yeah. Pro lifers.
33:Have you ever kissed someone older than you?
Yes
34:How old will the last person you kissed be on his/her next birthday?
23? Idk I don’t remember
35:How many more days until your birthday?
Like 3 months minus a bit.
36:Do you have any summer plans yet?
Yeah! I’m going to Poland with my mum. Then I’m going home and going to suffer in the HK heat.
37:Do you have any good friends of the opposite sex?
Yes. Two, one is my brother.
38:Are you keeping anything from your best friend(s) now?
No. I’m an open book lol
39:Do you have a secret that you’ve never told anyone?
I don’t think so??
40:Have you ever regretted kissing someone?
No
41:Do you think age matters in relationships?
Depends on the age gap and the ages of the parties involved
42:Are you available?
Yes
43:How many people have you had real, strong feelings for since high school ended?
1 or 2
44:If you had to get a piercing (not ears), what would you get?
Nose ring but not septum. On the side of my nose
45:Do you believe exes can be friends?
Yes if they put effort into it
46:Do you regret anything?
A lot.
47:Honestly, what’s on your mind right now?
Turbulent is such a good song also I want thanos to raw me
48:Did you ever lose a best friend?
I’ve ghosted a best friend if that counts bc she’s toxic as fuck
49:Was your last kiss a mistake?
No
50:Why aren’t you pursuing the person you like?
Bc they don’t like me back lmao and also ‘pursuing’ sounds kind of predatory??
51:Has the last person you kissed ever seen you cry?
No
52:Do you still talk with the person you LAST kissed?
Not really
53:What was the last thing you ate?
A weird cake that was sweet but I couldn’t pinpoint the flavor
54:Did you get any compliments today?
Yes
55:Where are you going on your next vacation?
June to Poland
56:Do you own anything from other countries?
Yeah I have dolls from Belgium and Poland and Japan and also some trinkets from other places
57:Are most of your friend guys or girls?
The majority are girls
58:Where have you lived most of your life?
Tseung kwan o
59:When was the last time you took a long drive?
I don’t drive :D
60:Have you ever played Spin the Bottle?
No
61:Have you ever TPd someone’s house?
No! I’m a good girl uwu
62:Who do you text the most?
Probably Iza
63:What was the last movie you saw?
Endgame but it’s a bad stream of it
64:What’s preventing your current boyfriend/girlfriend from going back to their ex?
Don’t have one
65:How many boyfriends/girlfriends did you have in 2011?
66:Is the last person you kissed younger than you?
No. You asked this question earlier
67:Do you curse around your parents?
Hell nah they’d ground me even though I’m nineteen
68:Are you happy with where you live?
Not really but it’s okay
69:Picture of yourself?
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70:Are you a monogamous person or do you believe in open-ended relationships?
Personally I’m monogamous
71:Have you ever been dumped?
No
72:What do you most like about making out?
It’s hot
73:Have you ever casually made out with someone who you weren’t seriously involved with?
Yes
74:When you kiss someone for the first time, is it usually you who initiates it or the other?
Both?
75:What part of a person’s body do you find most attractive?
Face
76:Who was the last person you talked to last night before you went to bed?
Iza or my brother’s gf
77:Had sex with someone you knew less than an hour?
No
78:Had sex with someone you didn’t know their name?
No
79:What makes your heart flutter and brings a big cheesy smile to your face?
Dogs
80:Would you get involved with someone if they had a child already?
NOPE
81:Has someone who had a crush on you ever confessed to you?
No lol have you seen what I look like
82:Do you tell a lot of people when you have a crush?
Depends on who the crush is and who I tell. Usually I tell my brother and maaaaaybe some of my more sensible friends
83:Do you miss your last sweetie?
???????????
84:Last time you slow danced with someone?
Uhh never. I wish I did though that sounds cool
85:Have you ever ‘dated’ someone you’ve never met?
Nope
86:How can I win your heart?
Make me a playlist and be honest with me. Also be funny
87:What is your astrological sign?
Leo but I’m more of a cancer
88:What were you doing last night at 12 AM?
Eating my takeout and watching exurb1a
89:Do you cook?
I make a good risotto and also potato dauphinois. But otherwise no
90:Have you ever gotten back in touch with an old flame after a time of more than 3 months of no communication?
Don’t got one
91:If you’re single right now, do you wish you were in a relationship?
Hells yeah @wlw hit me up
92:Do you prefer to date various people or do you pretty much fall into monogamous relationships quickly?
The latter
93:What physical traits do you look for in a potential interest?
A nice face. I like older blondes when it comes to women and less muscley men. Generally for everyone, the more feminine the better.
94:Name four things that you wish you had!
Bigger eyes, a boney figure, fluency in all languages, more brain cells
95:Are you a player?
I play the ukulele
96:Have you ever kissed 2 people in one day?
No
97:Are you a tease?
I plead the fifth
98:Ever meet anyone you met on Tumblr?
Yeah a few and they were all v sweet gals
99:Have you ever been deeply in love with someone?
I don’t know
100:Anybody on Tumblr that you’d go on a date with?
Yeah
101:Hugs or Kisses?
Hugs!!!!
102:Are you too shy to ask someone out?
I don’t think so
103:The first thing you notice about the opposite sex?
Eyes
104:Is it cute when a boy/girl calls you babe?
Yes!! And I call everyone that except my brother he’s dickhead
105:If a sexy person was pursuing you, but you knew he/she was in relationship, would you go for it?
No!!
106:Do you flirt a lot?
Depends on who you are and how well you know me
107:Your last kiss?
Last year
108:Have you kissed more than 5 people since the start of 2012?
No
109:Have you kissed anyone in the past month?
Lmao no
110:If you could kiss anyone who would it be?
One of the people I’m crushing on probably. Or Zach Grace
111:Do you know who you’ll kiss next?
No, that’s an interesting question though.
112:Does someone like you currently?
Probably not. Again, refer to picture of me
113:Do you currently have feelings for anyone?
Yeah I always fuckin do
114:Do you like to be in serious relationships or just flings?
Serious relationships
115:Ever made out with just a friend?
Yes
116:Are you happier single or in a relationship?
Well I’ve only experienced the former so
Thanks for the questions sorry they’re ugly im also ugly but I’m sure u arent
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anyhao-archived · 6 years
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okay im finally getting around to posting this, tbh i had to take a few days to (rest) before i thought more about this lol. also sorry it’s so long, ill put it under a read more. ANYWAYS my vav experience, as follows:
so for the fan sign there was a Lot going on so i forgot most of it but.. barons teeth sparkled when he smiled lmao anyways st van was first and I told him he was my moms favorite and he went rly?? in a really cute voice and he just seemed so surprised, it was endearing
and then jacob... i don’t mess with him anymore. jk lol he was so freaking attractive but like in a Hot way? his smile was so nice that im pretty sure i garbled my words but i tried to tell him i really like love night.. and I was going to ayno and like idk if i was joking to myself or what but just loud enough i actually said, oh that’s lots of bling! and both ayno and jacob heard me, ayno laughed genuinely and jacob was like omg i can’t believe this idiot.. i don’t think i said anything to ayno, he seemed really uncomfortable so i didn’t want to bother him anymore. but his laugh was genuine i could tell, and for a split second i don’t think he was wearing his Idol Mask(TM) when he smiled. but that’s probably just wishful thinking lol
ACE I CANT BELIEVE HIM he looked so fucking good oh my god i got to him and i called him a Casanova and he went ayyyy with a thumbs up and finger guns and i wanted to die lmfao
when i got to baron he said my name but kinda pronounced it wrong but i corrected him, and he said it again. and then i told him my name rhymes with his and he said mine like four times in different ways trying it out and rhyming it with his stage name😭 HE DIDNT have to say my name that many times, god. his English was so fucking good holy shit and his pronounciation??? Amazing and he’s so handsome up close, like literal Disney prince handsome
ziu talks sooo much!!! I love it and he’s so good looking and kind and he shook my hand and ??? he said to enjoy the show and i told him to enjoy doing the show and he did like a shy smile kind of thing !! you could tell he was trying hard with the English i was rly proud of him
lou had a flower crown on and i complimented on it and he said my name so well and there was more with him but i forgot 😢
but that was just the fan sign lol so much other stuff happened... later during the show i nearly died bc of ayno.. they were picking people to go up on stage, right? and there was a girl in front of me also with her hand raised, like freaking out (maybe a bit too much?) and i was like okay she probably wants it so i kinda like.. stopped raising my hand and gestures to her? If that makes sense... he almost picked her but when he saw me be nice and let her have it, he literally stares at me and picks me, dead on...but someone random that he wasn’t pointing at like ROWS back walked on stage before we could realize it was me but that fucking eye contact i had with him made him SHOOT up my bias list lol now I have to rethink my entire order. im like 75% sure that he picked me because i wasn’t a crazy fan, like the girl in front of me was a bit much.. and obviously if i was willing to give it up im not that insane... ladies, it pays off to be a nice person!
AND JACOB WITH THE BABY please end me i fell for him so much like he’s almost overtaking baron that’s how much i liked him last night and how nice is vav that they tried to pick new people?? like they picked the fan boy, the little baby, the elderly lady.. and they even helped her to and from the stage 💗😍 AND SPEAKING of gentlemanly stuff there was a guy with a wheelchair during the snapshots in line for jacob and when they were done he personally pushed the guy in the wheelchair all the way to where the man needed to go. he breaks my heart and heals it simultaneously, he’s so underrated but still a genuinely and QUIET nice person.. he doesn’t do good stuff to be noticed. like when winter breeze was over, they had the rappers sing it too... but not jacob. i was so upset and he also didn’t do his solo song that i specifically told him i liked, but ayno did two of his. im not bitter at all what do u mean ??? 🤷‍♀️
i feel like more happened at the concert but i can’t think of much more, im sure other fan accounts will have it all. the only thing i can think about is the snapshots anyways lol
the group picture was ... interesting. the hi touch wasnt much except it reinforced my idea that ayno recognized me, bc instead of a high five he held my hand for as long as possible, probably an apology for earlier. i nearly died. the pic ended up looking awful but thats okay lol. then we tried to leave but i ended up going the wrong way, and a staff handed me roughly like actually grabbing my shoulders and pushing me in the right direction (which i did not appreciate, please chill, u just didnt tell us the right way to go...) and a few members saw that and didnt like either. ayno looked irritated but im sure  hes just irritated at everything at that point lol, lou and ace looked at me sympathetically, and i gave ace the happy bday present someone asked me to give to him. he was so surprised it was adorable.
OKAY, NOW FOR THE SNAPSHOTS: so i actually had 7 snapshots but ended up getting 2 with jacob and 2 with ayno instead of one with everyone (which.. if u look above is not a surprise lmfao) so the first snapshot i do is with baron, obviously.. and this ASSHOLE wants to kill me like... for everyone i tried to pick poses that werent too touchy bc a) im not comfortable w that and b) im sure they were all tired of being touched lol so i picked the one where you make fingerhearts while standing next to each other, but NOOOOO
baron decides he doesnt like that pose enough so he literally puts his hands on my shoulders, guides me to a position thats not only in FRONT of him but CLOSER TO HIM than i was originally!!! what the fuck!! thats not all after that he had to lean around me and basically like... he was so fucking close to me oh my god. he smelled so good i need to know where he gets his cologne. also lol when he moved me in front of him i was like... omg are u sure??? im kinda tall.. and he just laughs and smiles and leans into/around me. that picture of me looks so stupid bc i was so.. happy and Not Ready lmao
anyways i go to jacob next and do the e-t touch pose lol since like i said... didnt want touchy ones and he seemed amused that i picked that one. i wonder if it was one of the least popular ones? probably.. and GOD hes rly such a gentleman hottie like i rarely say h*t but.... jacob was hot. since we did the e.t touch pose we had to touch fingertips and (eyes emoji) not to have a hand kink or anything but hes got. really nice hands. long fingers. also lmfao he had long ass fingernails and i kinda joked with him like “youve got longer fingernails than i do!!” and he laughed and smiled at me. and okay i turn to leave like gotta have the next person go but APPARENTLY he wasnt ready for the next person yet...  i literally had to have the staff be like wait! jacob is saying bye to you!!! and i was like WHAT and turned around and ran back to him basically to say bye he was grinning the entire time and he waved his hand and held it up for (i thought) a high five but he grabbed it and i swear i fell for him right there. JACOB WHEN WILL U BE MINE godfjkdgd and i watched him for a little bit but he didnt say bye that enthusiatically to anyone else (that i saw, at least)
then i did the prom pose with st. van, it was adorable. you could tell he was rly trying to interact with everyone and idk what it is about him but i felt comfortable enough to actually do a Touchy pose (the holding arm pose, like prom yknow). we love an amazing leader~
oH i did one with ziu too!! i did the byung byung pose with the hands together and we both looked ridiculous lol. i dont remember much about him except he was so tall wtf taller than i expected.
at this time i keep looking at my pics and THE E.T PIC WITH JACOB??? makes me crack the hell up.... it had to have been fate, obviously. in the pic (from the camera flash, i guess) where our fingers were touching, it just SO HAPPENED THAT THERE WAS A FLASH OF LIGHT......... iconic. jacob n i are meant to be. so i get in line for him again bc i want to show him the pic, but by the time i got up there again i had forgotten. i was also like... ready for a touchy pose with him bc why not. i cant remember what pose i did with him or if anything happened, im sure i was in a trance then lmao. pretty sure he recognized me but i cant be sure. 
then i get in line for ayno and i have two snapshot tickets left, and the staff announces theres only a few mins left so i was like SHIT and figured id just do two with ayno bc i didnt wanna waste any. his line was so long and staff had to keep reminding ppl not to hug/touch him and i felt soooo bad. i picked poses that werent too close to him, and even those in the pic he looked like he was trying to not be close to me lol. i feel so bad for him, im sure he got a lot of weird fans that night. i think he recognized me (again) because he smiled genuinely like he was happy i was there. i think he appreciated that i picked poses that didnt require touching -- he probably had a Lott of that. when the second pic was being printed the staff member laughed at something someone said, but i thought she was laughing at my picture bc i take shit pics and i got offended for a second and so did ayno LMAO but then she explained and i said bye to him and he went back into Idol Mask(TM) and i think that was it. 
i also ate at ihop that night, it was great, we didnt get back to our hotel till after 2am, it felt so... young adult-ish to be out so late lmao. i was very proud at how everything turned out, i dont think i wouldve changed a thing
anyway, long story short: im in love with jacob, baron is a disney prince, ayno shot up my bias list (he was like... last lmao) and i appreciate him as a person. those three were the Big Three, but i still loved meeting the other members. 10/10 would recommend vav
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Ep. 9 - “im running on borrowed time”- Franco
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Michele
I would love to see a full list of who everyone voted for. Its VERY fishy and a complete blindside. Makes me feel worse about disadvantage next round
lenny
Right when cranjes becomes my ally, they get kicked off. lol. what is happening in this tribe rn? I want to get to the bottom of it.
michele
ive never felt more alone in this game. people clearly lied to me.
lenny
according to dusty, Franco and Eliza flipped for the split vote. yuck! what to do now? I don't know. I think if I have any chance of getting Eliza or Michele out, I have to make a new alliance. 
lenny
Dusty just said that her franco rain and worm were the ones to flip and that makes me very anxious and I don't know if I can trust rain fully :/ that makes me sad. I really hope I can. 
lenny
so michele and I are talking which is v heartwarming. I apologized for being cold towards her. I hope we can work together. 
Dusty
Well that was messed up LMAO That’s the second time Eliza has flipped on me and taken out my closest ally...anyway I will not be working with her anymore. But I’m gonna make her believe it. And thank you to my amazing acting skills she gave me her half of the super idol..........ma’am. I’m so sorry. She expects me to give it back to her after this round but Idk if I can do that if she isn’t in the game anymore! She also told me that it was her and Franco that flipped with rain and worm. So now I’m trying to work with Lenny and Michele who seem to be on board, and it seems like I’ll also have to working with frank and Sasha. And with this blind round there’s a fear of voting for someone that won immunity buuut at least I have a 10% advantage to help me out :) Wish me luck!
michele
kinda blew up a little so gonna lay low for strategy. i also sometimes take things too personally which is why i only do like 1 org a year so that last tribal got to me a lot. franco messaged me saying he doesnt trust me and even tho his instincts are completely correct idk it just feels weird. i think i just hate general confrontation 
Frank
So I’m shocked Cranjes left but I’m quite happy about it. He was leading a lot of things so to have him go is wonderful. After tribal, Michele approached me about getting out Eliza or Franco, so we stan that. Once one of them is gone though the other needs to be taken out as well since they’re both strong and we don’t need one of the having a story of, oh my partner got out but I still made it through so much. After that get rid of Dusty and then Lenny at some point bc who. I’m fairly quiet but Lenny is practically a ghost. Right now the only person I actually trust though is Sasha, which is not something I thought I would say but here we are.
Franco
Blind rounds are so SCARY. Mainly the part about no one knowing who wins immunity. Like, we got out 2 idols last round by blindsiding Cranjes and flushing Frank's, but theres still more out there. And no one is going to know how tribal is going to play out Michele was kinda pissed at us for leaving her out of the vote. But? Sis left us out of her alliance with og Plati, and didnt give us ANY information last round despite knowing I was a target. Eliza is also.... Kinda not smart. She gave her half of the idol to Dusty because she wanted to reconcile. Which is nice and all! But thats a direct chance for him to get back at us and take a shot at us. Keeping the idol separate was best for everyone. So I just gotta pray Eliza knows Dusty as well as she says she does!! I dont expect to win this challenge. Im gonna chat around, but I think Im going to have to play my idol this round to save my skin. My name has been thrown around 2 rounds in a row, im running on borrowed time. We'll see how today goes!
Frank
So Franco messaged me about if I’m gonna vote him this round and that he doesn’t understand why I’m going after him. So I did the kind thing and explained it and said that I don’t want to work with him because he’s working with everyone and that I don’t see that as being beneficial to my game. So Franco is my target again and michele messaged me last night to get rid of him so we stan. I’m probably gonna get votes but who could be shocked by that.
Franco
surprise!! my name is going around AGAIN!! i'm so. not shocked. Frank has it out for my for some reason?? I confronted him this morning, let him know his """allies""" are throwing him under the bus and offered to exchange information or work together in some capacity but he literally turned it down. first rule of survivor is never shut down lines of communication like that!! he is denying any chance of game relationship we could have and thats such bad gameplay. I bombed the challenge because I'm dumb. And now that I know my name is circulating I'm going to have to play my idol. I just have to hope that whatever happens is good for my game. It's so hard to orchestrate votes during an invisible round, everyone is playing strictly for themselves because there's no reason not to. I really really finally want Frank gone. This is the THIRD ROUND in a row I've said that. but seriously I'm over him. he's gotta GO.
Eliza
Dear diary... Literally can’t believe we pulled that blindside off! I had to do some damage control with dusty and because I know what kind of player he is I gave him my half of the super idol. I told him I’d give it to him for this round to prove that the cranjes vote had nothing to do with him and that he is still someone I want to work with. He seemed shocked but obviously took the security and I think I have at least some of his trust back, I mean this IS the second time I blindsided him and voted out his closest ally. Now I know you’re probably thinking, ellie you’re a dumbass, and that I am but I know how dusty works at this point in the game and it’s gonna take a bold move like that one to get ANY of his trust back. Franco didn’t think it was the best move but I can’t just play according to Franco’s standards. The invisible round is absolutely terrifying, everyone agrees that it’s frank but we all know that he could 100% win this challenge. Obviously everyone with a brain wants to split but some of these people won’t wanna split again after they got out smarted, Franco might be playing his idol because we all know frank wants him out but frank has also said I need to go and I have absolutely no security rn so yeah, I’m fucking scared. Let’s see what happens!
Rain
So... I haven’t been around much today. I abstained from immunity. My depression is kicking in and even tho I’m doing well in the game, I can’t be bothered to get into it, as much as I want to. So I’ll ride Franco and Eliza’s coattails until either I pull out of this funk or I get voted out. The move tonight is to try to get frank. Except he’s kinda good at challenges (although, tbh, hasn’t been that great since returning - maybe the idol was holding him back?) so we think he may get immunity. I think voting Sasha would be better - like come on, I don’t even think he’s trying (is that hypocritical to say?) and he only talks to his allies. The other side (oh is it just dusty, Sasha, and frank now? Fuckin sweet) doesn’t even attempt to socialize with me. Dusty to some extent, but talking to Sasha and frank is like talking to a fucking wall. I’ll be happy if either of them go. But tbh at this point I’m ready to join the jury. I’m going to keep playing and keep trying because that’s what jay and the people I’ve voted out deserve to see, but whenever I go home, I know I played a good game for my first game in over a year. 
lenny
not feeling confident about this challenge or good in general. Rain is most likely working with franco and eliza. I hope I can trust dusty. oof
Worm
So last round seemed to have back fired. I think I have alienated myself even more but I'm not sure if saying people not talking to me is showing that. They weren't talking to me before anyway so I guess nothing really changed then lol They goal this round is to target Frank which is okay with me cause I think people will start going after bigger targets next round like Eliza and Franco. Michele seems really mad at me which i can't fault her for so my goal if I survive this round is to talk to her and get her back on my side. Maybe reuniting the alliance of dusty, her, and I could make a huge impact. This challenge is really difficult so I don't think I had any chance of winning. I kinda hope I do for just in case reasons. If I being told the truth and everyone is targeting Frank then it should happen pretty easily. His idol got flushed last round so it should be simple to get rid of him. But until those votes are read I do believe that I will be the one going home.
Frank
Watch Franco have an idol and I go home. That would be funny, tbh I guess it just would be. But oh boy I am gonna get myself a nice snack if Franco goes...although let's be real I'm gonna have a nice snack no matter what. But I just want to stay and have Franco or Eliza leave since that would benefit my game to an extreme since they KEEP TRYING TO VOTE ME OUT. Or at least saying my name which is enough for me. Like if you say my name, get out!
rain
Tribal is in a few minutes, and I’ve just had an emotional chat with Franco He is truly an incredible ally and I really look forward to being in the reunion w him and finding out who he is irl (although I have a guess) Anyway, I just wanted to give him some positive edit, because I’m sure he’s very N as the villain of the game :P 
Dusty
This is crazy idek if I won immunity or what’s happening I changed my vote like 3 times LMAO i voted for Eliza I don’t know what’s happening i think I’m freaking out for no reason. My only fear is michele being very quiet. 
michele
being quiet worked i guess. wasnt really a game move but i didnt get voted out so yay
Sasha
I really just gave up on trying to have my own strategy/game and just voted how people told me to huh
Eliza
Dear diary... It was a tie between me and frank, this might be the last time I write in confessions but hopefully I was able to make some sort of impact in the game. Wow this sucks
Dusty
jflkdsaiof okay a tie well michele being quiet all day meant that she didnt get the chance to know the vote was for eliza... which just made me think someone decided to not flip against eliza/franco so in the revote i reached out to worm and rain to try and get them to flip which they both denied. ugh im so stupid, they would know regardless that i flipped, but now it seems like i was soooo adamant about her going... oh well. Franco is going to be pissed anyway
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August 2nd, 2018 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on August 2nd, 2018, from 5PM - 7PM PDT.  The chat focused on Woohooligan! by Samuel Dealey.
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✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
COMIC TEA PARTY START!
Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning~! Today we are discussing Woohooligan! by Samuel Dealey~! (http://www.woohooligan.com/) For those new or in need of a reminder, discussions about the comic are freeform, so please feel free to bring up whatever you wish. However, every 30 minutes I will be dropping in a discussion question to help those who would like a prompt. These questions are totally OPTIONAL to answer, and you can pay them no mind if you wish. If you miss out on any though, they’ll be pinned for the duration of the chat once they’re posted~! Remember, constructive criticism is allowed, but the primary focus here is to have fun and appreciate the amazing comics that the community makes~! As a bonus, each chat a top comment will be picked and featured in the archives and on an ad for CTP! All that being said, let’s get started and have a great discussion!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite strip in the comic so far and why?
SamDealey
Hey, everybody! I'm Sam! Don't worry about me being here. You can ask me questions, give advice, dog on things you didn't like, or just ignore me, however you prefer.
Also, feel free to contact me if I can help with any of your projects (research, promo, tech, etc.) -- and you can get me on Twitter here: http://twitter.com/datafaucet
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
glad you could be here again sam!
lets see. i think my favorite strip is actually one of the ones that was super early on: http://www.woohooligan.com/comics/4 as a fan of perspective, i really just enjoyed that play on words since ive always thought vanishing point was a....strange choice of terminology for the concept. so i enjoyed seeing it taken super literally XD
SamDealey
A lot of people have said they relaly prefer either the early stuff or the late stuff... my style has changed a lot.
Yeah, that vanishing point strip isn't very widely popular, but a lot of artists really enjoy it.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i can see why theres that preference difference. the switch the late stuff was a bit awkward since it became more focused. but i think both sides have their merit. though admittedly in this case i do think a lot of my fave strips were the ones earlier on.
http://www.woohooligan.com/comics/23 that one as well was one my favorites. my family is 1) both cursed to never understand technology and 2) generally unwilling to listen to me. so man do i wish i was that guy who would reply so sarcastically and lead them astray. XD too identifiable
SamDealey
I also went through several visual style changes that were caused by changing tools... I switched to all digital when I couldn't find an affordable wide-format scanner in 2009, did some stuff for a while in Adobe Illustrator (and colored in Photoshop), then switched to Manga Studio 4.5 ... even the upgrade to MS 5 I think unexpectedly changed some things.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
WLLO
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
its bound to happen naturally anyway for a comic as old as this one. ppl change, but that also makes it interesting to watch. especially since your comic is one that will tackle current activities so it can be an interesting time capsule of sorts to see how humors and situations changed.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Oh hey Sam!
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
welcome super~!
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Thanks!
Sorry I'm a few moments late, was catching myself up on some art but I'm here now!
SamDealey
Hey, Justin! I think you might be the first one here.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
lol
Looks like I am
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
any favorite strips youd like to share super?
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
http://www.woohooligan.com/comics/313
This one's pretty good.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
that one made me feel bad for telemarketers XD if only cause most of the ppl calling are sadly just trying to make a living. but i do enjoy that disintegration image XD
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
For a sec i thought that was a guy using a fidget spinner.
SamDealey
lol @ fidget spinner ... yeah, it's been shared a few times, but I hadn't heard much commentary on it... I don't really have anything against the people who work in telemarketing either, I just thought it was a fun joke about what sometimes feels like our societal priorities.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Lol
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
ah there is one strip i wanted to ask a question about
while youre here
SamDealey
Please do.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Also sharing another one I thought was pretty clever
http://www.woohooligan.com/comics/308
though I would never replace a computer with an iPad
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
http://www.woohooligan.com/comics/238 this one with ayn rand. was there a lot of dialogue on this page just because there needed to be a lot of dialogue or was this intentional as an homage to the fact that ayn rand's novels are chalked full of monologues?
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
brb, need to go do something real quick
I'll be back!
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
QUESTION 2. Besides characters in Amity’s storyline, there have also been several other recurring characters over the comic’s history. Whether old or recent, were there any characters that you particularly connected with? If so, what about them connected with you and/or made you laugh? Are there any characters you’d like to see make a return in some fashion, and in what way do you think they might still have potential? Lastly, in regards to Amity’s storyline, what other famous people do you think might pop up in hell and what do you think will happen with them?
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Hiyo... I made it, but I only had a chance to read the series through to about comic #120. ^.^
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
thats okay. at least thats something
glad to have you here math
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
My fave comics are actually the ones with the parenting. I particularly liked the "grow a beard" one (I don't recall the number) as it ended up having a callback in a later entry.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i really miss that sophisticated zombie who was fighting for zombie rights. for the shallow reason i really enjoyed his personality.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Nigel was cool!
SamDealey
I wish I had been that meta on the Ayn Rand pages... heh... they're super-wordy like that because I had a hard time figuring out how to make her explain her "philosophy" more succinctly
Thanks, Math!
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I obviously gravitated to the parenting ones what with handling the 6 week old here, with a name very similar to 'Alex'. ^.^
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Oh hey a Math!
SamDealey
Ayn-Rand Libertarianism was very deliberately added to that story though -- it's a part of a longer meta-theme in that story about Heaven and Hell and our concepts of morality
Oh, yeah, the conversations with my oldest daughter. heh...
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
http://www.woohooligan.com/comics/306 How'd I find this strip
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I'm leery of the political ones, I admit. I get the reasoning for them, of course (I tend to read the commentaries too, which is a large part of why it takes me a while to archive browse) but they make me facepalm more than smile.
That said, Nigel as an avatar for immigrant/racist tendencies was kind of genius.
I like when it's subtle that way.
Well, subtle in my dictionary.
Oh, and to be clear, I'm not facepalming over the comic, it's over the sadness of the world we live in.
SamDealey
@✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨ Question 2 - ummm... I don't know that I'm any more connected to any specific recurring characters than others -- I think I can see splashes of myself in most of them but in a really generic way, like basic humanity type stuff
Thanks for the clarification, Math!
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I guess I've enjoyed Alex as a recurring character.
SamDealey
Oh, yeah, I don't relate to my daughter at all.
<sarcasm>
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Lol
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
ah that strip was definitely topical @Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨ . reminds me of waking up everyday seeing trump in the news doing something. @SamDealey darn it. ah well. it kind of works as an homage to rand's monologues anyway. thank you for answering though.
i did enjoy the strips about alex though. i thought that was just nice and heartwarming
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yeah, Trump's life is like, documented to end and back
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I wonder if it'll be in my future.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Have millions of people documenting every single pun you make?
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
No, conversations with my daughter related to my writing and math comics.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
probably. O_O i mean you have a daughter so step 1 down that road is complete
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Sounds reasonable
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I remember when I first started reading, I was amused by Death in a couple of the comics. With using the opportunity of a reaped psychiatrist for a session, and commisserating with Rudolph.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Death vs a super badass Rudolph
sounds like some kind of sitcom
SamDealey
@✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨ - Are there any characters you’d like to see make a return in some fashion, and in what way do you think they might still have potential? The princes of hell haven't appeared much lately with the exception of Lucifer -- they do have some involvement in the continuing Hellbent story. I've also thought about more Nigel strips where he struggles to work with other people on a PR campaign for zombies that involves the creation of a TV sitcom about a zombie family
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
yes. zombie family tv sitcom
that would be amazing
especially if theres a forced laugh track
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
By the way, what was the deal with some of the comics saying "alternate ending in the comments"... was that only on deviantart?
I want to make a Rosanne joke, but I think I'd regret it.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
The world must have zombie sitcom
heck if we got a sitcom about dinosaurs what's stopping the undead from getting a chance to shine
and the jokes would be built around them being undead and general horror tropes
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
(The Rosanne joke is about the zombie sitcom, not alternate endings.)
I've been reading onwards in the background, and just got to the Klingon section. Ohmygawd, Klingons with doe-eyes.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i enjoyed the klingons strip. i just really enjoyed how it was framed cause i think it made the jokes work well
SamDealey
@✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨ - Lastly, in regards to Amity’s storyline, what other famous people do you think might pop up in hell and what do you think will happen with them? The current official title for Amity's story is Hellbent (I know it's not readily apparent). Most of the famous people in Hell are there as a counterpoint to show that anyone who's remotely interesting doesn't get into heaven. They mostly don't plug into the plot in a meaningful way, but just are there to remind you that the interesting people are in hell, like Mark Twain and Edgar Allen Poe playing poker with Pappy, or Freddy Mercury who was just a punchline. It's implied that Amity slept with Jimmi Hendrix and Katherine Hepburn has become an odd kind of mother-figure to her (though Hepburn avoided having children throughout her life). The only other historical figure I currently plan to include for plot reasons is Nietzsche (god I can never spell his name)... I don't want to give too much away, but remember that he talked a bit about "the soul" and Ayn Rand really idolized a kind of misconception of his idea of the ubermensch -- "superman".... oh, and related to that also Atlas and I think Hercules, but they're only going to be on one page.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Ayn Rand meets Superman I could see.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
yes i was hoping for nietzsche!
throws confetti
QUESTION 3. Though much of the comic series is non-sequential humor, the latter half of the series features a continuing story line involving Amy/Amity and her experiences in Heaven and Hell. What do you think will happen with Amity now that she is pregnant? Will she keep the baby, or will she decide having a child with Lucifer is too difficult? If she keeps it, what do you think the consequences will be? Do you think Amity will ever see her grandmother again, or will her grandmother stay in Heaven? Additionally, do you think Amity’s new reputation might get her into trouble, and if so in what manner? In general, what do you personally take away message wise from this storyline?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
alas not the question for you math XD
cause this is the latter half
SamDealey
@MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑 re: Klingons - Thanks! re: alternate endings -- for a long time I published alternate endings as voting incentives on TopWebComics -- you could only see the latest one. I still do it occasionally, but the bonus panels or alt-endings are now on Patreon, where all the backers have access to the whole archive. A lot of those alt endings and bonus panels are also in the books whether printed or electronic.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Yup, I'm not that far yet.
SamDealey
I also give out vol #1 for free to subscribers on my Woohooligan Weekly Dick Joke Advocate newsletter. http://woohooligancomics.tumblr.com/freecomic
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Ahhh, I see. Incentives is clever... it's nice when you have enough of an audience for that.
Though I suppose this is a heck of a looong runner. I'm impressed by that.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
in regards to question 3, i think amity will keep the baby. and i look forward to the baby shower. O_O gotta invite everyone who can make it entirely too awkward
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
The Vegas strip I just got to reminds me of the Yuri/Yaoi one from much earlier. I liked that one. (Those who know me know I'm always up for some yuri.)
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
since math is still on earlier strips. http://www.woohooligan.com/comics/123/ i liked this skyrim one cause thats not where i expected the joke to go at all. never know what to expect when it comes to the arrow in the knee meme
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
....I phrased that very badly.
SamDealey
@✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨ That's a lot of questions, but I think I can answer them in pretty short order here: - Amity is currently worried that she's carrying the antichrist -- I think that's warranted -- I don't want to give too much away about that plot, but Lucifer confirmed it's his son in the latest couple pages. - Keeping the baby and/or consequences, well -- spoilers. -- which of course means now you know the baby will be born - Amity will see Nanna again -- it's an important plot point, followed by some fun sex jokes - So far the trouble Amity's reputation has gotten her into has been largely self-inflicted -- she's become paranoid that Lucifer's billions of children are going to mob her, except that Delilah, who she knows is one of Lu's kids has already said basically "you get used to a lot of bullshit rumors around my dad -- it happens". But with her now carrying the baby in particular, that doesn't mean Amity's going to be less paranoid. - Messages taken away from this story? ... I don't know about "taken away" since I'm writing it, but I will say that I know what will be on the last page, and I bawl every time I think about it. It's not sad, just ... I hope it will be moving for others as well.
@MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑 re: long running - Thanks! I feel like I've not done a great job of keeping up with it -- like, when I did my latest Kickstarter I had it on hiatus for about a half a year. I'm fulfilling it now and just getting back to creating new pages. That's why it's only 317(?) pages after 12 years. If I'd published 1 a week consistently, it would be over 600.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Oh wow
also that comic
This is why you wear knee guards
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Eh, real life happens. I've had my comic on and off a bunch.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
yeah no shame in that. its better to do projects like this at your own pace, whatever that pace needs to be.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Agreed(edited)
SamDealey
Oh, you meant "I'm always down on some yuri"
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
>Two females interacting >"Is this yuri?"
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i was glad that amity bonded with delilah. but i also just like delilah cause she was a surprisingly down to earth character.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Pfffft.
Now I'm at the Nerdgasm set. I have been to some of those kinds of panels.
SamDealey
@✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨ Aww! Thank you so much, that's such a complement re: Delilah.
SamDealey
Delilah is a succubus and although she's not central to the plot, I hoped I could do some justice to addressing kink-shaming and sexual double-standards.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
ooh?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i really enjoyed in nerdgasm that part where they were like "the homestuck panel moved" and then suddenly the room empties. it reminded me of how 2 real that was back in the day where everyone and their mother was into homestuck and cosplaying trolls.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
A succubus as a recurring character sounds interesting.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
yeah i really like delilah all around. cause i do think shes a good avatar for sexual double-standards and i also like her dynamic with amity cause of the whole dating her grandfather thing XD
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Makes family reunions awkward.
SamDealey
There will be a baby shower -- it won't be large, mostly the princes of hell, or... well, 4 of them will be there... Leviathan (Envy) won't fit in the room but will send a gift (snake oil) - Satan (Wrath) doesn't do babies, but will go half on a gift with Scratch (Greed) of war bonds. Bubby (Gluttony) will give her a live pig (he thinks it's better fresh), I'm not sure yet what Mody (Lust) will give her, but suffice to say it will be creepy... Lucifer will get her something as well, but I'm also not sure what yet, and Belphegor (sloth) won't be there, because Cthulhu fhtagn
Pappy, Delilah, Hepburn and maybe Nanna will be there...
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
maybe Nanna?
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Asmodeus?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i dont think this will be a relaxing baby shower
will grumpy cat be invited? O_O
SamDealey
Asmodeus is Mody -- Lust
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
QUESTION 4. Though many of the comic’s strips revolve around nerd culture, there are also tons of strips that are topical to life, current events, and history. Were there any of these kinds of strips that you felt were personally relevant to you? What did you think of some of the more serious strips (like the one about trickle-down economics)? Regardless of strip type, were there any titles that caught your eye and made you see the strip differently? Finally, since we’re speaking on humor, were there any jokes that you struggled to understand?
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Anything Trump related, lol
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Ahhh, I see.
Oh, I'm pretty sure I miss a large chunk of the jokes. It's a bit different from my sense of humour.
SamDealey
Yeah, tackling trickle-down economics was interesting, because it's one of those subjects where you can kind of expect to not get much traction, but as I get older, I feel like that's one of a handful of subjects not getting enough attention, and I thought if people enjoy Adam Conover, then I should be able to get people interested in important subjects like that
I just now realized a lot of those questions aren't directed at me.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i really liked the visuals you used for the trickle-down economics one. i think they were well-chosen and well-placed to help explain things
thats ok
SamDealey
Thank you!
I am a huge fan of Conover's work by the way.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I've reached Canada Day. We try.
I found reading your answers to the questions interesting, for what it's worth!
SamDealey
Thanks, Math!
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
ive overall enjoyed the breaks into the serious. i think theyve been interesting and well-researched. and sometimes its also just nice to break from comedy for a second
SamDealey
@✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨ Did I throw you with any of the titles?
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Wait, there's alt-text on these too?! When did that start? (Sooo much depth to all this...)
SamDealey
lol -- I don't remember when I started adding alt text... and I'm not sure if my most recent pages have them either...
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I'll echo Rebel on the well-researched part. It's the sort of thing that stands out if it's not there, but is easy to miss when done right.
SamDealey
Oh, I've also started publishing more comedy in other mediums lately as well -- prose on my Tumblr, and some YouTube videos -- currently working on a YouTube about free speech
Here's a recent one about alt-right propaganda
https://youtu.be/Xy0Barrlw3U
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
nah i wouldnt say thrown. i thought they were interesting for some of them and just had good plays on words. http://www.woohooligan.com/comics/80/ like that one for instant since its playing on the phrase "to hell with TOPIC HERE" and turning it into a jersey joke. XD
SamDealey
I know -- it's not comics.
Oh, yeah, back to Jersey
I'm not sure how many people noticed me using "rigor" as a slur to tie it to the word nigger
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
That's exactly the sort of thing I'd miss.
SamDealey
short for rigor-mortis, but convenient that it rhymes
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Did someone say YT videos?
You should try to see about making dubbed/animated versions of strips
SamDealey
The YT vid I'm working on right now is way too long -- I need to kill about 50% of it to get the length down to reasonable
I'm not sure if I'll delve into trying to animate any of my strips ... genuine animation is too labor intensive (I know, my oldest daughter, Alex does it), and I feel weird about still frame panels with voiceovers
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
thats fair enough. animation is a lot of hard work.
i didnt notice the rigor thing sadly. mostly just cause my mind read it as "generic insult slur"
like if you yelled banana angry enough you could probably turn that into a slur
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Maybe you can hire Alex to do it.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
so didnt connect with what it was standing in for
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Banana republic?
SamDealey
I love the phrase "GOAT SUCKER!" as an insult
It's the literal translation of the word "chupacabra"
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Things I learned from watching the X-Files.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
yeah. goat sucker always struke me as a funny insult cause of that XD
SamDealey
Ha! I didn't even know that was in an X-Files episode... I've seen a lot of the series, but not all of it
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
http://www.woohooligan.com/comics/209/ this is another strip i liked since ive been trying to find some of my faves. this taps into every problem ive ever had with zombie movies, particularly that last panel.
SamDealey
I never did see the fluke man
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I tend to either see all of a series or very little. It was a fluke. ^.^
No Nigel cameo there?
I've reached 200, woo.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i have to admit i was expecting nigel there
but then nigel didnt come
and i shed a tear inside
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
The reversal of expectations.
SamDealey
Nigel cameo in what?
Oh, the zombie movie thing
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
r.i.p. Nigel
SamDealey
Yeah, Nigel doesn't really fit in zombie movies -- he would just be giving it bad reviews on Yelp.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
SJ: That's zombie humour for you.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yup
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i hope his reviews sound overly fancy with lots of big words
ah this reminds! i also liked see moneybags a lot. what a perfect stand in for basically rich corporations.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Cools~
SamDealey
Oh, Uncle Pennybags from monopoly?
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
I was surprised to see him actually
SamDealey
I always draw him with a monocle -- he's never had one in any of the official Milton Bradley merch
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
One of the things I want to address before the end here is the obvious passion. Not only in terms of some of the details in the comic art (from fake twitters to shading) but also the commentary afterwards. Lots of work went into this.
Kudos.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Seconding that, there's lot sof entertaining fun to be had with this series and I hope you never let anything stop ya, Sam.
SamDealey
Thanks, Math!
fake twitters?
Thanks, Justin!
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
One of the comics I saw in the last hour or so had a fake twitter feed... all about foodstuffs.
I remember the most random things.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Np!
SamDealey
I've found often that the pages where I have lengthy commentaries end up being shared a lot more -- like, I was really nervous doing a passage where Amity talked to Trayvon Martin, but those pages ended up being shared a bunch
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
You have a pretty amazing fanbase.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
COMIC TEA PARTY END!
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For next week, Comic Tea Party will focus on Himawari Share by Harmony Becker. As always, please use the next several days to read as much of the comic as you would like. We hope to see you next Thursday on August 9th from 5PM to 7PM PDT for the chat~! Until then, happy reading~! Comic: https://tapas.io/series/Himawari-Share
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