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fruity-arts · 11 hours
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oh oh!!! could i request a soft scene with tkod, lilia, and silver? after ch7, he needs some love and reassurance from his dads 🥺 and congratulations on your milestone!!! 💚💚
hi lettie!! of course you can <3
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and thank you!
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egophiliac · 17 days
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Most unhinged moment in TWST Wonderland that made you go:
I love this game.
can I just say the entire front half of episode 7 chapter 8, because everything about it was BONKERS in the most absolutely delightful way. genuinely this might have been the funniest single update yet. we got Idia's directorial debut! big stronk Epel! and. just. gestures to the entirety of SavanaRook. (then Vil went into a spiral of murdering people that culminated in punching the manifestation of his own insecurity in the face, and that was good in an entirely different kind of way, but I digress)
if I have to pick one though, I'm gonna go with Idia's video, because 1) adorable, 2) seriously just look at it, and 3) I did legit have to replay that subchapter on account of laughing over most of it the first time. truly Idia is the artistic genius of our generation.
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Hi Raven!! Easter eggs in case you didn’t notice but Rook’s bedroom in his dream on the Neige side. It has many vector redraws over Epel poses! Credit to @/MoonlightEquin1 and @/lovesfirstkiss_ on Twitter for noticing this.
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I think I found the Twitter posts you're talking about (here and here for those who are interested)! It looks like Epel’s Union Jacket, Suitor Suit, Birthday Boy, and School Uniform initial artworks were used as a basis for some of the Neige paper goods shown. (nxebwbkxnskw THE SUITOR SUIT BEING USED AGAIN… First it was for “Epel”, aka actually young Marja/this grandma, now for Neige…)
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This just lends credence to Vil’s belief that Epel’s cuteness could rival Neige’s… thus making Epel Vil’s secret weapon and “poison apple” to defeat Neige in book 5. Maybe Neige copies many of Epel’s poses because Rook also sees the similarities between them (this is, after all, his dream). It’s great attention to detail on the part of the devs!! And, of course, very good eye to the fans who spotted this.
OH
You know what I caught while looking around Rook’s rook for any other potential Epel card matches??? Well, besides the fact that RSA!Vil STILL wears friggin tall heels as part of his uniform?? 😭
Enhance…
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IS THAT.
IS THAT CHE’NYA IN THE TOP LEFTHAND CORNER… The cat ears and the colors are too similar NOT to be???? Rook knows who Che’nya is???? Somehow??? 😭
I get why there would be photos of Neige, a celebrity, but why photos of Che’nya…Unless… Rook acquired these pictures personally 💀 Like, he snuck on over to RSA campus and hung out in the bushes taking shots of Neige AND his classmates… Or he ripped it out of the RSA yearbook that he somehow got his hands on??? (The creepy part isn’t even that Rook is the type of character to do this, the creepy part is that this is behavior that’s “normalized” for Rook so we don’t even bat an eye at it when he’s involved.)
Also?? At first I thought the others in this photo card were the Dwarves (since, excluding Che’nya and Neige, there are 7 of them), but the hair colors are nowhere near the same. But they obviously must be RSA students because of the uniforms they wear. (Is one of them Vil?) And there seems to be a… redhead…
A… redhead… prince(ss)????
RIELLE???????? HONEY… IS THAT YOU???????? Is this foreshadowing for us meeting Rielle in the Octavinelle dreams and/or in the second huge arc of the main story????? here's exactly seven of them if you ignore Che'nya and Neige, meaning this count of RSA students would be perfect for another seven books of main story... aM I REAdiNG tOO MYCh JntO TH!S?????????
I didn’t expect to fall down this rabbit hole from an Epel and Neige centered ask but here we are, I guess 🤯
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pinkcadavart · 4 months
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Soldier side
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Punk black and pink haired immortal finds and raises a silver haired child in the ruins of a human civilization only to lose their powers and leave the child behind
I’m sure I’m not the first time make the connection between Zutomayo’s Darken and Lilia’s character arc but damn.
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rakiah · 9 months
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You can’t imagine how I cried for that damn acorn bracelet. I knew it but I still cried for it D A M N
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yunanami · 9 months
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BOOK 7 SPOILERS IM BACK IN THE BUILDING AGAIN WITH THE BRAINROT
"One day, to the fae who dwell on this Kingdom of Thorns, Malleus will become the auspicious star that shines and burns brightly... And to the humans, a malefic star that they shall fear."
That was Meleanor's blessing to Malleus before she envelops herself in walls of thorns.
Malleus turned out to be one of the most powerful magic users in the world, being the sole heir to the throne of Briar Valley and revered among his people, with his birthday being a national holiday even. And Malleus is constantly feared by humans due to his power.
The blessing came across, making him the epitome of the strong and powerful Draconia bloodline, their star, their hope. Their pride.
However, this blessing also cursed him to be lonely.
To be high above all others, unapproached, only known for his strength and his name spread around like a myth. People fearing his temperament, always being on edge around him, resulting in Malleus never being able to live a normal life like everyone else does.
Strength and formidability, being Briar Valley's shining beacon of hope, at the cost of his everlasting loneliness. Loneliness that caused him to create a dream where no one will ever leave him, and he will never be lonely again.
A blessing and a curse.
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twistedmionn · 3 months
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Twisted Wonderland iceberg
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Explanations ahead (slight spoiler warning)
Tier 1:
everything is self-explanatory, I think
Tier 2:
Haruhi = the protagonist of Ouran High School Host Club. She's a girl who dresses up as a boy (correct me if I'm wrong) and many players who have a female MC consider theirs to be like Haruhi. [EDIT: Thanks for the anon pointing out that I misspelled the name!]
Tier 3:
self-explanatory
Tier 4:
A fair amount of people headcanon Vil as a trans woman because he presents androgynously/feminine and doesn't care about gender roles. This has also caused discussion in the fandom because breaking gender roles ≠ trans.
Tier 5:
People sometimes wish TWST was more like a dating sim and had character/dorm routes.
Some people headcanon that Silver is based on Prince Philip (from Sleeping Beauty) and/or is a prince himself. I haven't played all of book 7 yet (only the parts out in the ENG server) so idk if the theory has been proven right.
Lilia is old and hints at dying soon.
Hot NPCs, such as Deuce's mom and Sebek's grandpa.
Ace and Deuce have expressed interest in Yuu at various points in the game.
Genshin VAs: Leona/Alhaitham, Silver/Kazuha, Idia/Razor are the ones I can think of
Tier 6:
A beastman (I think it was Jack) has stated that he has problems talking to animals, and Ruggie's talent at it is considered something special.
The tweels are considered intersex by some due to eel anatomy (I'm no eel expert).
Kalim is considered the real villain by some due to never really bothering to help Jamil.
Epel's backstory/attitude has many elements that a fair amount of trans men relate to.
There are theories that Lilia and Sebek are twisted from Peter Pan characters. I'm unsure about Silver, but I think I've read something about him being from another movie, too!
Tier 7:
Some people headcanon that Ace has experienced domestic abuse.
There's a theory that Ace will betray Yuu.
Cater has two sisters who boss him around, which is a resemblance to Cinderella.
Malleus might have two pps because well... dragon.
Epel and Deuce had a whole ass beach date. Deuce constantly cares for him and broke the school rules in order to make Epel feel better. Their scenes together (the settings) looked straight out of a shoujo manga. If Epel were a girl, this ship would be considered canon by most.
I'm not sure EXACTLY which languages Jade's VA speaks, but I do remember that he knows German.
In one of his Halloween vignettes, Ruggie — as opposed to Lilia — has indirectly expressed that he has no interest in romance/relationships.
Tier 8:
UH.
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etheries1015 · 2 months
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BOOK 7 SPOILERS BELOW
I finally decided to suck it up and catch up with twst book 7, I stopped after seeing Silver cry because I'm sCARED OF BEING SAD 😭😭 anyway here's a few reactions I had to it 😭
And hearing about the update coming soon-ish to ENG servers I really need to read up
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Lilia pressuring Epel like the old man he is 😭😭 I love the moments that they remind us just how old Lilia actually is and how he sees most if not all the students as if they were his children/grand children, making sure they get the most out of the party and drink...its giving "What do you mean you're not hungry? Absolutely not. Here Is at least 5 servings of whatever dish I made to help u grow big and strong."
Okay I didn't take a screen shot of it but the entire section where Lilia looked kind of guilty with Ortho about exchanging addresses because you just KNOW he probably isn't gonna check in, presumably because he doesn't want anyone to get More attached to him seeing as he is nearing the end of his life span (crying shaking throwing up)
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THIS. THIS. THIS INTERACTION HE HAD WITH US. I LOVE HIM. I AM SO SILLY FOR HIM. I totally forgot I changed my in-game name from my nickname to my REAL name and when he said my name I verbally yelled "WHAT THE HELL" before giggling and kicking my feet hehehehe I'm clinically insane for him
But the fact that he acknowledged us as Malleus friend probably means we've spent a lot of time at the dorms or around Lilia for him to see how our friendship and interactions with him work, and it melts my heart hehe. Being part of the diafam fr. But honestly bro back me up, I'm tired of being called a hench-human 😭💀
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I wonder just how bad we must look with everyone noticing the strange shift??? Either we REALLY made a scene (tripping over, going pale) or the twst boys are just that attentive to us and I think that is the sweetest thing ever 😭😭 Ace and Deuce is so sweet for thinking of us and trying to get us out while also being polite to the people who kindly held the party. Despite not being there long, ace and deuce is willing to skip out on free food and drinks in order to make sure you're okay and I'm just 😭😭 ANGELS. I LOVE THEM.
But also the way Lilia worries for you is so sweet 😭💜 I should write a fic of sick reader and Lilia, or reader trying to tough it out because I know for a FACT Lilia would not let that slide! (Hypocrite 😐)
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I ACTUALLY DROPPED MY JAW WHEN SEBEK SAID THIS SHIT. I WAS. WHAT. WHAT THE HELL LMFAOOOOO 😭 thats fucking insane bro I actually found myself chastising him thru the phone, I would NOT let that discrimination against humans bullshit pass fr 😭 slap him right upside the head and give him a stern talking to. I like seeing Lilia get frustrated, he's so cute and UGH. Although it went in one ear out the other, Seeing Lilia mad is so hot if I'm being real with y'all rn BUAHAHA.
I didnt screen shot this either (and I can't fit anymore photos on this post smh) but Silvers nose being red and obvious he was crying but Lilia confused. DudE OF COURSE he was crying!!! You're his dad!! You raised him since he was a baby, he's just now going into adulthood and doing that WITHOUT HIS DAD who is going to a far away land! Sure, traveling is a thing , but honestly nothing beats having that support just a moments away. Silver is literally the sweetest and wants to support his dad , but who's going to support him????!?! Lilia is putting him in a position where Silver feels the need to be strong and hide his tears for Lilias sake, but of course this is hard on him, its so sudden, too! Being so close to your parent and next thing you know mere days later they are stripped away from your arms?!
I just want to give them all hugs. Lilia obviously has some issues and misconstrued ideas of love (a million people have made posts and comments on this, so I will not repeat it) and I just. Need them to all sit around and be their mediator while we go thru their emotional states.
Ugh. I was in my twst burnout stage and still low key am, but fuck does it spark so much passion in you 😭😭
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frogasaurusrex39 · 3 months
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OMG OZZY OSBOURNE IS A TWISTED WONDERLAND FAN?!
(I also did a little lyric analyzing, scroll for that)
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(intro is red and you can skip it if you know the context of Ozzy and Twst. Book 7 spoilers are marked as green. Lyrics are purple. (When i didn't paste an image of them)
Okay so very quick intro. For twst fans who don't know Ozzy Osbourne what rock are you living under? He's a very popular rock artist and the lead vocalist for a heavy metal band "Black Sabbath" (a very well known 1970s band.) He has the nickname "Prince of Darkness".
And for Ozzy fans who are still reading and don't know twst. Twst stands for Twisted Wonderland, a Disney anime game. It focuses on Yuu (mcs name) who gets whisked away to a highschool organized by dorms for magic. Each of the 7 dorms are based off a Disney villain, who are praised as "The Great 7". It's a fun game check it out!! Dire Crowley is the principal of the academy. Not much is known about him but he praises himself on his "benevolence" and "kindness". Though no offense Crowley fans he's a lazy jerk.
To understand this analysis you'll need to know what an overblot is. With a mixture of strong negative emotion and a large use of magic a mage gets infected with the overload, causing them to overblot. (Blot is like magics equivalent to a car's gas emission per say). The person gets a new stronger form though it's highly damaging and if stuck in that form for too long they turn into a phantom. Imagine a sentient vicious blob of black ooze .
((((((Also Levan is Malleus Draconias dad who went missing long ago before Mal hatched from his egg. Maleanor is Malleus's mother who died after an attack on her castle ))))))
Now with all that out of the way!! Lyric analysis!! All the correlations. This includes the Crowley is Levan theory! Plus the overblot theory that he caused them. (Though you can still enjoy a lot of the analysis if you aren't a believer of either of these theories)
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This could correlate to when Levan left. I haven't read part 5 in awhile but if I remember correctly it doesn't exactly say what happened but he disappeared during a battle when he was a general. What was he thinking when he was in that fight?
For the Crowley Levan theory to work he would have been kidnapped by the Silver Owls. He would need to be in a weak state for that to be possible. The line did you talk to the dead could be a metaphorical for him "seeing the other side".
Or people say the magical mirror that assigns the boys their dorm is Maleanor. That could be considered talking to the dead.
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His disappearance was tragic. It affected a lot of people
And you could definitely say being a General is "thrilling". Though defining thrilling as an adrenaline rush not exciting.
You fooled all the people with magic could refer to him covering up all the overblots. You don't even need to be a believer of the "Crowley caused the overblot theory" to know he had to have covered all this up somehow. Though I find it gives it more depth to take that into consideration.
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He praises himself a lot. He of course would think of himself as Mr.Charming. The line after could refer to someone questioning his judgement. He's definitely not as nice as he claims to be.
In nocturnal rapport doesn't actually have to do with the night. I believe this line just means he's hard to talk to emotionally. (I could be wrong) As the principal his students should trust him and be able to talk to him. Yeah he's not trustworthy.
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Uncovering things that were sacred Could refer to people finding out about the overblots, or even that he caused them. Or that he's Levan.
Actually he's a mysterious guy there is so much this could refer to.
Conceived in the eye of secret also ties into his mysteriousness. He does have a lot of things he ain't spilling!
It could also refer to his identity being fake. Cough cough Levan.
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White horses are commonly used for heroes of a story or even angelic entities.
This is quite ironic since he hasn't helped with the overblots at all. Even more ironic if he's causing them.
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This whole paragraph could refer to the overblots. They've become common in the school. Even classic
A maidens call could refer to the students crying out. They need help they're being attacked.
The overblots are definitely drastic, each one getting stronger and stronger.
(And for the last line this isn't official but in book 8 if Grim overblots (assuming he will by then) and Yuu has to fight him there could be a scene where they're cornered.)
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I had to Google what polemically meant. So for people who don't know it means something that defends/attacks a noun. (Person, place, beliefs, idea or thing)
What are his motivations for causing the overblots (if he did)?
Or dare I even say he's the reason Yuu's here? What purpose do they serve to him?
We all wanna know.
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So that concludes my lyric analysis and correlation to Dire Crowley!!
Song:Mr.Crowley by Ozzy Osbourne
Character by Yana Toboso
Art owned by Disney's Twisted Wonderland team
Now extra stuff:
I love this stupid bird man. There's just so much we don't know!!
if you're still here I'm surprised, but comments appreciated
Help this took over an hour to type out...
Go listen to the song!! This song has a special place in my heart even though I don't actually listen to it. Now it's even more special with my twst hyperfixation.
Plus I find it crazy that it's over 40 years old yet it's still so popular. (43 years old if I did the math right)
The end.
Have a good day<3
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fruity-arts · 22 days
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Happy Mother’s Day to our beautiful princess!!!!🌹🌹🌹
She would be the most affectionate mom ever but malleus is in his “I’m a big kid” phase so he would be all tsundere like he is with lilia FDJDKSLS
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egophiliac · 6 months
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I love your unhinged energy of your comics it's just *chef's kiss"
I wanna ask how you rig your chibi characters if you use a program or an app ಥ⁠‿⁠ಥ
thanks! 💚💜💚
I use Spine (professional version)! I'm pretty sure it's the same program the Twst devs use for the chibis; I decided to try reverse-engineering 'em basically because my license was just sitting around gathering dust, and I thought it'd be fun practice (this was before I tried to rig Meleanor's cape). it is an industry-standard program and, unfortunately, is priced accordingly, so it's a bit expensive if you're not planning on using it professionally -- there is a free trial, though I think you can't save/export anything in it? BUT it is truly excellent and can do a ton of super cool stuff, plus is genuinely just fun to mess around in, so I 10000% recommend it to anyone who is serious about getting into 2D rigging!
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behold...the BONES...Najma and her billion discrete tassels...don't pay attention to all the extra bones from my desperate attempts to control Meleanor's meshes
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book 5 part 6 thoughts!!
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***THIS POST CONTAINS MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR BOOK 7 PART 6 OF THE MAIN STORY!!***
If you’d like to watch a rough part-by-part summarized translation, please check out this archived stream!
Please note: this is NOT meant to be a summary or a translation; these are only my initial thoughts on the events that unfold. There may be details overlooked or misunderstood in this post, so PLEASE do not use this as a translation.
Ew, we're starting off with another map segment... TWST REALLY WANTS TO TIMEGATE OUR TEARS, HUH
Yuu and gang are going to follow the night fae soldiers to Black Scale Castle beyond the mountains. They can't stay too far from the owner of the dream, Lilia! (If you'll remember, they're now taking Tamago-sama there for safety while Meleanor stays behind to fight the Silver Owls.)
Silver hasn't seen Sebek use his UM??? Sebek tells us he learned his UM when Silver got into NRC and Sebek was training by himself. He wanted to be able to rush to Malleus's side at a moment's notice. He knows it is able to turn his own body into lightning and then can use it to move and to attack. However, the spell will damage his body while using it since he has yet to reach mastery. Sebek can't use his magic to rush to Lilia and the others because he wouldn't be able to fight by the time he does.
... ISN'T HIS UM SIMILAR TO ROLLO'S.... JUST TRADE FIRE FOR LIGHTNING...
AW, SEBEK WASN'T PLANNING ON USING HIS SPELL UNTIL HE MASTERED IT... BUT HE STILL USED IT TO SAVE SILVER 😭
Oh, they finally asked the question we were all having. If Malleus made this dream with the intention of it being a happy ending, then why do only sad things happen in Lilia's dream??? Also, why did OB Malleus not come after them yet or kick them out of the dream??? Maybe there's a reason why Malleus can't supervise or enter Lilia's dream??
BAUL LEFT THEM MAGIC TO GUIDE THEM THE RIGHT WAY... HE TRUSTS US TO HELP THEM NOW
Baul fights with an axe. IS HE ABOUT TO HAND IT OVER TO SEBEK (Sebek seems to be holding one in his limited time card)????
Lilia "I won't forgive you if you die!" Vanrouge.
Not both grandpa and grandson volunteering to stay behind to fight and then catch up later... Sebek tells Silver to go ahead and protect Lilia, "You go and protect what is most precious to you. I'm going to protect what is precious to me," (Sebek about Baul) 😭 The night fae are so confused why a human would willingly help them... THI S IS SEBEK'S CHARACTER ARC
SEBEK PROVES HIMSELF A CAPABLE FIGHTER TO HIS GRANDPA!! His hair gets all messy like what's shown in his new SSR. It's raining as well (like in the card art), so this is likely the context for the illustration. The groovy artwork is of Sebek being knighted!!!
adgkuvaodv8yfefvyyeft8wen Sebek makes a big speech about wanting to be their strength!! BAUL ACKNOWLEDGES SEBEK BY NAME INSTEAD OF "HUMAN" AND GRANTS HIM A SOLDIER'S UNIFORM, SEBEK'S BEING OFFICIALLY KNIGHTED FOR THE BRIAR COUNTRY'S IMPERIAL GUARD AND GIVEN A NEW WEAPON... BAUL EVEN GIVES SEBEK HIS OWN CROCODILE MASK
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Zigvolt family lore!! Baul doesn't get along with his human son-in-law, but never distanced himself from his grandchildren. When Baul's only daughter wanted to marry a human, they argued so much about it. To this day, he still doesn't particularly care for humans. Even so, Baul's house has a lot of storybooks and candy prepared for his mixed grandchildren. He won't open them warmly, but it's clear he loves his family.
Silver saves Lilia!! And then Lilia asks Silver to take the egg to Black Scale Castle in his place. There are too many human soldiers on their trail, and Lilia cannot fight them while holding the egg (plus he's already injured from previously protecting Silver at the easternmost fortress).
Yuu has to hold Tamago-sama...
Silver proceeds to carry Lilia like a baby in spite of Lilia saying he'd stay behind and distract the Silver Owls 🤡 NOT SILVER USING LILIA'S OWN TEACHINGS TO TELL DREAM!LILIA THEY STILL HAVE TO TRY AND SURVIVE
The mountains are called the "Forbidden Mountains" and it is said that this is where Maleficent once lived. If you are not blessed by the dragons, the lightning (according to legend) will strike you down. Beyond the mountain is Briar Country's capital city and Black Scale Castle.
Surprisingly, Silver suggests an ambush method (hide and strike at soldiers from behind when they've let their guard down). I guess NRC really did teach him how to be backhanded after all/j
Silver says maybe Malleus can't follow them since he wasn't born yet in Lilia's dream. Magic relies on imagination, and since Malleus cannot imagine what life was like before he was born... that's probably why he can't monitor these circumstances.
Would you look at that 💀 The first real time the story acknowledges that Yuu is in bodily danger; Silver Owls shoot arrows at Yuu because they're holding the egg. Grimmu protects us!! Baby... Best buddy...
SEBEK ARRIVING TO SAVE SILVER (aksldnbaksdbaydasl lol at Sebek being smug about his knighting and trying to act cool even though the lightning is definitely still hurting him...)
Silver Owls retreat!
Oh wow, so they see creeping black thorns similar to when Malleus OB'd; everyone suspects that maybe Meleanor Overblotted too.
Silver mentions that he lives near the Forbidden Mountains but has never climbed them before. The rocks there are very sharp and dangerously jut out. AW, Lilia gives Silver and Yuu his cloak to protect them from the rain and cold. Lilia says the mountain range is full of magic, so its restorative to fae, who draw power from nature.
The way they came from was sealed off by rocks... but Lilia fully intends to go back and help Meleanor...
THEY MADE IT TO THE CASTLE!! It's called Maleficia's castle; we have an official English spelling for Granny Draconia's name. Something, something, Lilia wants to prepare something called the "Cradle Tower".
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WE CUT BACK TO WILD ROSE CASTLE
Like father, like son... The Dawn Knight seems remorseful and wonders where they went wrong, if everyone could have been friends if they had chosen some other way. He wants to dream of a world where all races can live together in peace. "One day, it won't be just a dream, it will be reality." It's phrased very similarly to the wish Lilia made in Wish Upon a Star!
The stormy weather clears up and the dawn makes way... IT'S A SIGN THAT THE DAWN KNIGHT PREVAILED AND MELEANOA'S MAGIC HAS DISAPPEARED... Lilia just lets out the most guttural cries... He says if he were stronger, he would have taken Meleanoa with him against her will, HE WASN'T ABLE TO KEEP HIS PROMISE TO PROTECT MELEANOR FOR HIM
I still want to see Mallemom's on-screen death though.
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Side note: they force us to play through a scripted loss battle between the Dawn Knight and Meleanor 💀 Sick fucks on the dev team…
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This is delicious content :)))))))) We're eatin' well, boiz
Uhhh okay so there are greenish spirits floating around; they're the senate??? Apparently they've already died but their spirits linger and serve as advisors.
… Idk why doesn’t Mallemom do this too???
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NAUR, NOT THE SENATE BLAMING AND SHAMING LILIA, SAYING HE RAN AWAY AND LEFT HER TO DIE IN BATTLE... THEY CALL LILIA A MUTT AND BAT, JUST A DIRTY ORPHAN WHO CAN’T BE TRUSTED… AND THAT HE ISN'T FIT TO SERVE, THAT HE'S USELESS (this must really sting seeing as Lilia has insecurities about not being wanted 😭)
Baul defends Lilia's honor but Lilia still resigns from the Imperial Guard. HE'S TELLING THE SENATE T HEY CAN PUNISH HIM SO THEY FORBID HIM FROM STEPPING INTO THE CAPITAL AGAIN
The senate uses magic to take the egg away from Lilia AND LILIA SAYS GOODBYE TO MALLEUS BY NAME
"I'm not an Imperial Guard anymore, I don't need to follow orders" — Lilia (when Baul tells Lilia he still has a duty to hatch the egg). LILIA HAS GIVEN UP and that seems to have summoned the darkness of the dream to them. Lilia thinks Meleanor and/or Levan are in the darkness so he wants to "go there too".
When a general retires, they are gifted a lavish home near Black Scale Castle. Sebek says it now makes sense why Lilia lived humbly in a forest cottage far away from the capital. Silver says it must be why Lilia dislikes the atmosphere of the capital and why he never took Silver there.
In a flashforward, Lilia is asked to come back 10 years later. At this point, Tamago-sama has developed more sentience and is actively rejecting the love magic from everyone, even his grandmother. He has only been receiving magic for the first 5ish years or so. Maleficia had Baul act as a messenger to bring Lilia back for a special mission BECAUSE OTHERWISE MALLEUS WILL DIE WITHOUT IT.
Malleus’s egg is being kept in Cradle Tower! It keeps the egg safe and essential incubates it for the royal family.
Land of Briar becomes Briar Valley? The queen cannot always be with the egg because Briar Valley and its surrounding are lands are left in chaos after the war. Briar Valley fae specifically are not allowed in human territories.
Lilia is sent off on to find a way to fix the situation. He says he will see where dragons live in other continents and research. Omg, this must be how he started his travels and learned more about other races and their cultures 😭
“Don’t you dare die, Malleus” — Lilia (AND THE LOVING DEATH THREAT ACTUALLY MAKES THE EGG GLOW)
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We see some of Lilia’s travels AND HE WAS IN THE CITY OF FLOWERS ON TOPSY TURVY DAY... The people there were friendly at first and worrying for his health until they realize he's a fairy, then they chase him out.
During one of his routine reports, Lilia is convinced by Baul to speak with Malleus's egg (which now glows green sometimes). Lilia shares stories of his travels with Malleus, trying to keep it positive for the baby to not make Malleus sad.
NEXT LILIA TRAVELED TO THE SCALDING SANDS, A MERCHANT IS ASKING IF HE WANTS TO BUY A MAGIC LAMP... Lilia learns about the importance of souvenirs as keepsakes from that merchant.
Okay, so it looks like between travels we're getting scenes of Lilia reporting back and telling Malleus about the place he most recently visited. He says that the Scalding Sands used to be such a small civilization but has since grown into a sprawling city. It's amazing what kind of progress humans can make.
Malleus is fussy and some days accepts magic, and other days he doesn't. Meleanor was also a really picky eater. Levan carries himself like an honors student but was the type to hide his veggies.
AW, HE SINGS MELEANOR'S LULLABY TO MALLEUS
Next Lilia visits some ruins...? It looks like a background from the Spectral Realm seen in Endless Halloween Night. Lilia says no one lives here, there is only furniture. No ghosts are mentioned though! He uses his UM for the first time here. Far Cry Cradle is probably going to be very useful for investigating ways to hatch a dragon's egg!
Lilia tells Malleus to come out of the egg, it must be boring just sleeping. He offers to read stories and change his diaper, tells Malleus his dad wants to meet him. Oh, and of course Lilia shares about his UM too! He tells Malleus that he went to the Land of Crimson Long.
Lilia ventures to Harveston!! An old man mistakes Lilia for a kid and takes him in, showing him warmth and kindness. He says he'll leave soon, but the old man and an old woman say he should stay until spring because the weather is harsh.
The lady notices Lilia is fae (but since time has passed, relations between fae and humans have improved a bit). No one is afraid of him here!! They apologize for mistaking him as a kid and want to share stories.
(Not confirmed but it could be interesting if these were Epel’s ancestors Lilia met… Rollo’s ancestors can be the ones running Lilia out of the City of Flowers www)
ABSHDBYOAFVYFAIAEUQRQEOUBFQ LILIA IS 430 AT THIS POINT BUT THAT NUMBER IS SO CLOSE TO 420 IT MAKES ME LAUGH
His feelings are changing... At 450 years old, Lilia tells Malleus that the world has changed so much and he has had the chance to visit many places. ahbyoaybadadB APPARENTLY PEOPLE USED TO THROW STONES AND ROCKS AT HIM.
Lilia says that fae may become things of the past, just creatures of fairy tales. But he doesn't want Malleus to be the main character of a fairy tale, forgotten by time. He wants Malleus to be able to see the world his parents weren’t able to see for themselves 😔
Another time skip, and it's come to a point where the egg is in critical condition. For 3 whole months it has been rejecting Maleficia's magic. The egg has since erected a lightning barrier to protect itself, even though its own heartbeat is growing weaker and weaker. (Malleus throwing another tantrum lol)
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Lilia heard weird sounds but no one else could??? Is that a baby crying???? He tries to approach, but almost gets struck down many times.
Lilia realizes Malleus is crying because he's lonely. "Wait for me. I'm coming to you right now!" He gets hit by lightning, but perserves!
Lilia says he will offer his magic, even his lifespan (many fan theorists squealed now that this is confirmed), to Malleus if he needs it, and finally embraces the egg. (Physical contact like holding the egg is said to encourage magic absorption.)
TAMAGO-SAMA??????? 😭 HE SOUNDS LIKE A POKEMON… and he’s already blowing fire even though he’s freshly hatched???
WTF THOUGH BABY MALLEUS IS 1000000000000000000000x CUTER THAN GROWN UP MALLEUS 🫶 (I don’t like modern day Malleus’s looks at all www)
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Silver understands why the dream is how it is, because it was all worth it for Lilia to finally meet Malleus. The moment of hatching has to be the happiest moment in Lilia’s life.
The senate shows up and starts praising Lilia as a hero.
OH????? Lilia seems to be waking????
HMMMM? this implies there’s limited suspension of disbelief each dreamer has 🤔 and if pushes past that threshold, then the dreamer is in a confused half awake state. Idia had these little moments of questioning his dream’s reality as well.
The senate’s voices distort, and they start shouting at Lilia for touching the prince, how it will be a scandal if a bat (… is Lilia a bat fae???) “dirties” the Draconias, etc. Mmmm, maybe this is the real reaction and the praising was part of the dream?? Since Lilia seemed to react strangely to being extolled. (I’m still over here wondering why their opinions hold so much weight compared to the queen; surely she would invite her friend Lilia back?? And doesn’t seem to blame him for the death of her daughter?)
Levan has a voice similar to Malleus, but lacks horns.
DVSUBILADUP9FFQEQFFAHAFBFEYBN OB MALLEUS JUMPSCARE, HE FINALLY MANAGED TO BREAK THROUGH INTO LILIA'S DREAM
Okay 😭 Lilia did in fact use his own life span so Malleus could hatch, and then Lilia had Maleficia swear to secrecy because he was concerned Malleus would blame himself. But it also feels like the senate purged or edited the records to hide the fact that Malleus hatched with Lilia’s love??
Malleus tries to convince Lilia to go back to sleep, to not feel pain. He says he can give Lilia a dream where the Draconias are still alive, a dream where Lilia can live peacefully, just take Malleus’s hand—
SILVER COMING IN CLUTCH, he and Sebek vow to break Malleus’s “blessing”. It’s this word that allows Lilia to fully awaken!!! ⏰ He’s so proud of Silver and Sebek…
They fight (well, Lilia distracts Malleus), then Silver uses his UM to hop into another dream.
They run into Ortho?! And then everyone is dropped off in front of Ignihyde.
FINALLY, SHROUD BROTHERS RETURN RIGHT AT THE VERY END!! I was wondering what they were doing while all this shit went down in Lilia's dream... It sounds like the next book 7 update will start off with Idia and Ortho, most likely told via flashback. I assume Ortho was able to help Idia wake up somehow?
This update felt like we got a lot of new lore!! But many of the events that played out were things we already had an inkling about prior to all of this (Meleanor dying, Lilia going on his travels eventually, Lilia helping Malleus hatch, etc.). It's nice to get the confirmation and to have the gaps of time inbetween filled in.
I really appreciate the story showing us just how hard Lilia's life was and then showing us just how important a nugget of happiness after all of that was so worth it for that moment. His VA did a stellar job with the voice acting this update, particularly the sobbing once Malleus hatched. I loved seeing Lilia's travels and how they gradually affected his own mindset over time... how he learned many different things from the people he encountered, and how he passed on that knowledge onto Malleus.
I liked seeing the origins of Lilia’s UM (he’s on a journey to find an answer)! Hearing about Sebek’s was also interesting; seeing as he’s a late bloomer with his magic and how he’s always competing with Silver, his UM manifested when Silver had been admitted to NRC and Sebek was training alone. I wonder if the UM also (in part) rose out of a feeling of inadequacy or feeling like he has to “catch up” to where Silver, Malleus, and Lilia are. No matter how hard it may be, he wants to push past his limits and serve as a knight. Maybe that, too, is why his UM prioritizes power and speed at his own body’s expense. It’s great seeing Sebek open up a little more and insist on fighting alongside fae; in modern day, Sebek has had to fight alongside humans. This is bridging the two sides of himself and helping him to reconcile with his own prejudices 😭
THE WHOLE DRAMA WITH THE SENATE MAKES ME UNDERSTAND WHY LILIA DROPPED THAT LINE ABOUT HISTORY BEING ALTERED OR REWRITTEN. It all makes so much sense now... Lilia himself (at least him hatching Malleus) was written out of history even though he did so much to help his country. He was so disliked, shunned, and shown animosity from the powers that be, and now he doesn't wish for that to happen to others, especially not to Malleus, the one good thing in his life and all that remained of the friends he lost along the way. You really see his teachings coming through in Silver and Sebek when they face off against OB Malleus towards the end. And the way I screeched when Lilia finally woke up after that...
The more I see OB Malleus, the more I get this skin-crawling feeling around him. I know the other OB boys have done arguably worse things (attempted murder, for example) but there's something so awful and insidious about the way Malleus speaks. He's intentionally gaslighting and manipulating others to just give in to his control, taking advantage of even Lilia at his lowest moments to dominate his thoughts. That's scary to think about... especially the dark inversion of Malleus urging Lilia to take his hand, when the game started off with a much more light-hearted and inviting "take my hand" offer.
Anyway!! I've been wondering for a long time what the Shrouds have been up to, and I'm so excited to see their story next update!!
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Twst JP spoilers Book 7:
I have a newfound understanding of Buff Epel tm and I believe someone else has to have discussed this but I'm doing it anyway.
So in his dream Epel looks like
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Why child? Anyway-
So we know Epel wants to be big and buff and strong. But we all memed on him because THIS is his dream self. Because it's a super buff body with his head just stuck on.
I've seen people call this lazy, but first of all, I'm pretty sure it was MEANT to be comedic, this is hilarious. Secondly, I feel like we are forgetting a very important part of Epel's character:
He LIKES his face now!
That's like, a big part of his arc in Book 5!
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He finally understands his charm, he understands what Vil was trying to teach him.
So if he likes his face now, why would he change it in the dreamscape? The fact his face goes unaltered is the character development!
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I mean he still looks cursed with the buffness, but he's comfortable with his face and that's the main takeaway! Honestly, good for him!
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My Theory for TWST Book 7
WARNING: There are spoilers here for Book 6, so tread lightly.
So we all can see a pattern in how what the main conflict of each book is according to the dorm and by extension which villain the characters are based off of. Leona tried to overthrow Malleus to come out on top, even if it meant seriously injuring him, much like Scar. Jamil tried to get rid of Kalim and be on top for a change, much like Jafaar. Vil tried to succeed Neige and be “the most beautiful”, like the Evil Queen. It’s unlikely that this pattern will break. Which leads us to Malleus, based off Maleficent.
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We’ve all seen this image of the Book 7 promo making the rounds, right? Not only that, there were also scenes from the Sleeping Beauty movie, like Prince Philip fighting dragon Maleficent and the spinning wheel. Book 7 may be the one to have scenes that closely parallel the story of Sleeping Beauty.
Near the end of Book 6, we have Malleus contemplating the fragility and limited time of humanity compared to fae like him and Lilia. Lilia has long since made peace with the sorrows of parting in his long life, even though I’m sure he wishes he never had to. But Malleus is of a different mind. When you level up the vignettes on any of his cards, he says this: “You aren’t afraid of me. But I’m starting to become afraid...of losing you...” Malleus is a little more fragile to the concept, probably because he didn’t have anyone that he cared about who didn’t also have an extended lifespan. So he never had to deal with this pain.
Now the probability of experiencing it is slowly dawning on him. And Malleus, being a bit stubborn, wants to prevent such a thing.
I’m sure you all have heard the theory that Malleus is going to put Yuu to sleep in Book 7, likely because, as his first true friend, he’s not ready to let go of them so easily.
Here’s some evidence to support this theory:
In Book 5 and 6, we see Malleus “giving gifts” with his magic. At least to Vil. In Sleeping Beauty, Aurora is given gifts by the three fairies at her royal christening.
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The gift of song (Malleus repairs the stage so the group can still perform in the VDC)
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The gift of beauty (Malleus restores Vil to his youthful appearance after he aged drastically when saving Grim)
But wait. Aurora didn’t just receive 3 gifts. She received 4. Or rather, 3 gifts and 1 curse.
A curse that she will prick her finger on a spinning wheel when she turns 16 (coincidentally the age of all freshmen here) she’ll fall into a deep sleep for all eternity. This can easily coincide with the things Malleus says in the Book 7 trailer: “Here, a gift from me. 1000 years, they will feel like a moment in a dream.”
Distraught by the the possibility of losing his dear human friend, Malleus decides to put them into a deep sleep where they won’t age or get sick, preserving them so he will never have to feel like he has no one. With Yuu stuck in a deep sleep, he hides them away in the Diasomnia dorm, much like how Aurora was hidden in the tower.
Silver and Sebek stand with bowed heads. They still greatly respect Malleus, but the choices he’s made will likely shake their faith. They can only stand with him and hope what he’s doing will be worth it.
Now onto that final gift. The gift of true love’s kiss that’ll break the curse. I doubt that the gift will go exactly like this. But Malleus would likely not give this gift with his clouded mind. I suspect it’ll be Lilia who will give this gift to Yuu. He knows that what Malleus is doing is insane, but he also knows that the prince is too stubborn to listen to reason.
He hopes Malleus will understand the weight of his actions and undo all this on his own. But if he doesn’t, Lilia’s provided Yuu with a backup plan so they can wake up and escape.
I predict that we’ll be seeing more of the boys’ POVs in this Book. When we get Yuu’s POV, there’s some likelihood that they’ll be traversing a dream world. That might be how they best get in contact with Mickey and piece together all the prophetic dreams they’ve been having.
Yuu will eventually wake up, and when Malleus sees that his plan has crumbled and there really is no stopping Yuu from living and leaving and one day dying, the pain of this realization will be too much to bear, leading to his overblot.
But oh, you thought I was done. Here’s my final theory. I think since it’s the last chapter and Malleus is the strongest character in the game, we’ll have to fight him multiple times. That’s right. MULTIPLE! Malleus isn’t the type to just give up after losing one fight. Remember when we fought Vil but canonically, we couldn’t beat him? That Deuce’s unique magic was the answer? Yeah, it’ll be like that. We won’t be able to officially beat Malleus. Something else is gonna help him come down from it.
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Twisted Wonderland Book/Chapter 7 Hopes and Dreams I Want to Happen
I don't believe this needs an introduction, but I am a huge Kingdom Hearts fan and I just started playing Twst. Needless to say, I am surprised that these two properties owned by both Disney and square haven't crossed over yet. There is so much similarity between the two that I am just stunned. You laugh at me, but watch either Disney or Nomura walk-in or realize this and it will go downhill from there!
Heck, in the prologue alone, there is so much.
You summon the classmates with keys similar to how Sora uses his keyblade to summon.
The coffin transporting Yuu reminds me of the vessel used for KH
The Magic Mirror is the gateway between the worlds.
You get the point.
Regardless, this is just a list of stuff I want to happen in Chapter 7.
Also spoilers for book 6 and Masquerade. I'll keep Yuu's gender unknown.
Book 7 Stuff I Hope Happens
After the Glorious Masquerade update, I got everything I wanted! Rollo is truly a villain, Malleus and Yuu nearly dying as a reference to Esmeralda, MallYuu moments, Rollo planning this whole thing, and so much more! I think the only bonus I got from this was seeing Chenya and Neige showing up. Regardless, this is about book 7. I will make a list of what I want and maybe a bingo sheet too. I'm thriving from this chaos.
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Ace gest his unique spell. 
I don't care what it is, but I want him to shout, "Ace in the hole!" it would be too perfect! No, I don't see him being a traitor. He's too stupid and definitely not a mastermind. If he is…. Well, throw a party, I guess. I don't want him to be one. I want something wholesome and that's the freshman squad!
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The freshman squad is Prince Philip that fails to save Yuu
I love them, but they're not going to save us. They're going to fail. I am not trying to be harsh, but it kind of makes sense? I can see them trying but failing. Maybe that one scene where Aurora pricks her fingers happens to Yuu. Yuu is the first human friend and the reason Malleus is most likely going to do this. Lilia probably warns the freshman and they rushed to stop Yuu only to be too late as they fall asleep and Malleus casts his curse.
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Malleus puts Yuu and the school to sleep or makes a perfect reality. 
We know Malleus is going to do something sleep related to the player, possibly Silver, and the WHOLE school. If any of you have played Persona 5 Royal, Dr. Maruki creates a perfect reality for those to escape from the harsh one. I think Malleus might do that as well. He was to give us a "happy ending". What if he gives us a perfect reality where nothing is going wrong. Everyone is happy and everything is perfect. Nothing is wrong. It is catered to everyone.
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Idia + Ortho know the reality is fake 
We know Idia and Ortho are going to help us next (he already fixed my house, so we're good). But I believe Idia's going to realize this is fake. This is a tad ironic since he lives in video games and animes, but I also find it poetic too. This is also a perfect way to show Idia has grown. Idia is not accepting a perfect reality, he's going to accept the real reality.
As for Ortho, he also notices something is wrong. I am going, to be honest, he's not going to be fooled so easily for being a part robot. I just don't know how Ortho is going to know the reality is fake.
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Lilia gets hurt and ties Malleus and Idia together (No, this doesn’t mean Lilia is dying, but I can see him dying)
I think we can all agree that Idia is going to find out that his gaming buddy is Lila. Which is a good way to tie Idia to Malleus. Both view Lilia highly, and I wouldn't be surprised if Lilia knows this and use it to his advantage. This man already scared Silver on Endless Halloween, I can see him faking his death or doing something dramatic that snaps both Malleus and Idia.
Idia vs Malleus 
Look, this is just my personal wish. I want both to fight. Nothing holding either back. I think Idia could take him on, but he wouldn't win. I am also comparing both to their respective villains in both Disney and KH lore
Besides that, Idia is the best person (I know people want Leona which would also make sense) to stand against Malleus. Idia just got past accepting Ortho's death and is willing to live his life with less regret and some enjoyment. He's going to live his life and do everything before dying, honoring his little brother's request. He's not going to run anymore. Once Idia sees this reality is fake, he and Ortho will find a way to break it.
Another note is Idia understands what it feels like to lose someone you love. Malleus hasn't and doesn't want to lose anyone. He's been feared, turned down, and left alone. He has his human friend and knows he's going to outlive them. He doesn't want to. Idia has already gone through this, so he's the perfect choice to help Malleus.
Looking at the Disney lore, both Maleficient and Hades are good friends. It annoys me that Malleus and Idia aren't. And even in the KH lore, Hades does help Maleficient. Let them be friends!
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Sebek is going to hurt Silver
Sebek is the lightning and Silver is both the sword and Aurora. From what I hope, Silver and Lilia see Malleus falling apart and want to help him by stopping him. I can see Sebek feeling the most conflicted and attacking Silver for Malleus and hurting him. Malleus then puts Silver to sleep and realizes what he can do.
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Silver stands against Malleus 
Similar to how Kalim and Rook stood against Jamil and Vil (I still can't believe I was Aladdin, but I do believe in the majority being the Prince from Snow White). Silver's going to stand against Malleus. I've made KH jokes about him being not Riku, but this is just too perfect. Silver is the sword and Aurora. That fits so well with both tales of Sleeping Beauty. Aurora was an important friend to Maleficient and the person to stop her. Makes sense Silver is going to do the same thing and help us more than Sebek until Sebek realizes something is wrong.
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Three Good Fairies 
We know Lilia, Sebek, and Silver each had a color representing the Three Good Fairies which I find surprising. I thought it was just Lilia. He raised those kids, so I assumed he was based on all three. But all three got colors based on the three fairies. Each of them probably has some important meeting to eat, but this is all I've got. Someone fill in the rest. I am sure it is there.
Sebek is green. The most loyal.
Silver is blue. The one to put up a fight and is trained to.
Lilia is red/pink. He's the leader
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Rollo 
There must be a reason this character is here. No, you're not welcome in my dorm. I would rather have the eel twins take my house again than let you in.
I don't think this is the last we will see of him. Even though he should go to jail for ACTUALLY PLANNING A MURDER! But I think he's going to be reoccurring.
He literally made an enemy of Malleus…. Good luck with that.
I don't know if he'll appear in chapter 7, either in flashback or physically, but he's not going away.
If he does show up in chapter 7…. I think you'll make Malleus overblot or push him over the edge.
I actually don't know about this one. Someone fill in the rest for me.
Crowley.... Do I need to say more?! 
I never trusted him since the day I woke up from the fricken coffin. Also, you're based on the crow from Maleficient! I do not trust you! My hunch is right about this, but it is also obvious too. There are already parallels between him and Malleus. No, I haven't read the time travel theory, but I wouldn't be surprised if Crowley is a past version of Malleus, a person who wants the overblots to happen, and/or wants something! He's either the mastermind or a hand in it! We are not wrong about this!
And yes, Azul must know something he made him sign a contract. What was the secret?!
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Grim, our idiot and precious cat
We know he attacked us in the prologue
He has some connection to Idia with the blue flames, I think?
He keeps eating the stones on the ground, so he'll most likely eat Malleus' stone too.
He's going to explode with dark energy and be a monster.
BUT WE ARE SAVING OUR JERK OF A CAT! THAT IS MY CAT! HE WILL BE OK!
Pretty sure Crowley has something against the cat. He wants Grim or something to do with him.
This is not the end
Yeah, no, this isn't the end.
I don't trust Crowley, our cat is a lunatic of a monster, we don't know about the senior class, I want to know more about RSA, more for Noble Bell, Yuu also may blot or the reason for it, Yuu also needs to find a way home, MICKEY MOUSE, certain info on characters that are hinted at or reference, missing siblings we haven't seen, what the frick is up with the mirror in our dorm, we didn't have flashbacks with Rollo, does the mirror work since Idia's family blew up our house, why was Silver in the mirror and knows Mickey (Those Riku connections again), and probably more that I haven't said/known.
I feel like Austin after his kingdom hearts time travel video…. Except I typed this, but I can hear the music as my mind is slowly spiraling. Well, good job on reading this to the end….. I have no more words to say about it. I just hope I'm right or something dramatic happens.
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