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Rewatching After School Special

Welcome to “Stay Gold, Jenny Thunder: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

Up today, s4e13: After School Special

Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

[and we begin:]

When a high school girl drowns a bully in a school toilet and insists later that she felt like she was possessed during the incident, Sam and Dean are on the case. And the high school in question? Just so happens to be one they attended briefly as teenagers. The boys go undercover in the school as a janitor (Sam) and a P.E. teacher (Dean) to see what they can find out. As more students are hurt by possessed classmates, the boys discover that the culprit is the ghost of a boy named Dirk who attended the school with Sam and Dean and was horribly bullied after they were no longer at the school. Through a series of flashbacks, we learn what Sam and Dean were going through themselves at that school, and see that Dirk had been a bully to Sam and his friend until Sam knocked Dirk out in a fight and labeled him with a moniker that would become the focus of the bullying directed toward him. Sam and Dean rid the school of the ghost, but not without a considerable amount of fraught. And in the end when Sam seeks out a teacher who had been important to him to say thank you, the teacher asks if Sam is happy. End episode. It’s outsiders all the way down, man.

Mace:

what a bitch

Lor:

ug terrible high school kids

Mace:

welp, she’s a bitch too

Lor:

YEP

Lor:

(this was not my experience of high school. there was definitely meanness and cliques but if that level of awfulness was happening, I wasn't aware)

Mace:

(same)

Lor:

also, no one got possessed and drowned anyone

Mace:

well, sure. Although, to be fair, again, we don’t KNOW for certain that no one got possessed

Lor:

TRUE

and no Sam and Dean ever showed up

Mace:

yeah we would have known about that

Lor:

(god, I would have DIED at Dean Winchester when I was 17)

Mace:

(SAME)

Lor:

mmmmrf Sammy in that white v-neck

Mace:

YAS

Lor:

she thinks she was possessed but Sam's crazy? come on, child

Mace:

honey. you’re in the nuthouse and you’re calling Sammy crazy?

Lor:

commit to the bit

Mace:

HAHAHAHAHA

Lor:

LOLOLOLOL

IS THIS THE DEAN IN THE SHORTS EPISODE

Mace:

Swedish exchange students?

I need to hear that accent

IT IS

Lor:

LOLOL

this is 1000% not what Dean looked like at 18. he was Jenny Thunder in his dad's leather jacket trying to be cool

Mace:

HA

Lor:

like I buy the bravado and the attitude but he was PRETTY. I will not be convinced otherwise

Mace:

snork

Mace:

The Outsiders. subtle, writers. subtle.

Lor:

he would have that teacher eating out of his hand

LOLOLOL

Mace:

Hm. I kind of like the idea that he hasn’t perfected his game yet

Lor:

mmmmm. yeah, okay. he hasn't quite learned what level of sass he can get away with yet

WHISTLE

Mace:

HAAAAAAHAHAHA

yeah, Dean wouldn’t slam that kid like that

Lor:

DEAN

RIGHT?

Mace:

Sam in a work suit does things to me

Lor:

he would have every one of these kids doing physical activity, enjoying themselves, and feeling better about themselves

YAS

Mace:

yep

Lor:

and he would go help that kid

is he possessed by John or what?

Mace:

HA

oh ewewewewewew

EWEWEWEWEW

Lor:

OH JEEZ NOPENOPENOPE

I can't with hands in blendery things

Mace:

Sammy’s concerned face is so adorable

Lor:

it IS

OMG

Dean in his track suit

Mace:

those shoulders

Lor:

YAS

Mace:

and he looks so COMFY

Lor:

I think someone should quality check that zipper

Mace:

DEAN WINCHESTER

Lor:

DEAN

KNOCK IT OFF

Mace:

it’s all talk to annoy Sam. he would never

Lor:

YEP

and maybe he's actually uncomfortable being reminded of high school and is leaning into the persona?

Mace:

yeah

Lor:

(or this one was written by someone who wasn't as invested in Dean and just got him a little OOC. it is a Sam ep)

Mace:

(i agree that the writer doesn’t know Dean, but I think it’s pretty equally and Sam and a Dean ep)

Lor:

Oh Dean. trying to act like it's cool that he doesn't have a parent looking out for him in a normal way

Mace:

yeah

Lor:

yeah, I had forgotten about this other stuff with him. I mostly remembered the sam and the bullying stuff

Mace:

I love that this kid does Baby Sam so well

Lor:

RIGHT?

poor Sam

Mace:

poor both of them

Lor:

oh Dean

right?

John Winchester has so much to answer for

Mace:

big brother Dean I love it

yep

Lor:

YES

oh Dean. he's so twitchy.

and baby Sam just wanted to be normal

Mace:

yep

Lor:

AND baby Sam has a VERY cool jacket

Mace:

he DOES

Lor:

Dean has definitely stolen Sam's copy of The Outsiders and read it after Sam fell asleep

Mace:

yep

Lor:

he has a crush on Darry

Did Dean just reference Dead Poets?

That boy watches EVERYTHING

Mace:

yeah

oh SAMMY

Lor:

oooof

aw the way he's holding the girl that was possessed

Mace:

oh i love the parallels here with Dean being all big brother again

Lor:

OMG Dean yelling the same thing!

YES

Mace:

yeah, I was worried another adult would come out and see it

Lor:

oooof, yeah

Mace:

LORE

Lor:

they are so very sketch from the outside

DRINK

Mace:

HAHAHAHA

Mace:

they are

Lor:

"ghosts getting creative. well that's super"

Mace:

like, hanging out on a school bus with a sawed off shotgun

Lor:

"ghostie ghostie"

YEP

Lor:

do not name your kid Dirk if your last name is MacGregor, come on

Mace:

snork

Lor:

ooof it's being called freak that finally sets him off

Mace:

yep

Lor:

this poor father

Mace:

yeah

Sammy do NOT feel guilty, the kid WAS a dick

Lor:

Dean knows that a whole load of upset Sammy is coming

right?

Mace:

YEP

Lor:

Sam, you were fourteen. this was not ON you. SHOCKINGLY, the adults around you failed

Mace:

“all of him?” DEAN

EXACTLY

Lor:

LOL

Dean trying to act like this is a normal question and he's just a normal guy asking normal questions

Mace:

snork

21 Jump Street

Lor:

YES

Mace:

he watched it for Depp

Lor:

"bus driver sells pot"

he DID

Mace:

snork

Lor:

the way they turn the bullying thing around

Mace:

YEP

Lor:

(i don't think it was Sam's fault, but. just the flipping of the outsider bit)

Mace:

Sammy is giving SUCH good sad face

Mace:

(i get it)

Lor:

YES

DEAN WINCHESTER

Mace:

HAHAHA

Lor:

ooooof Dean

Mace:

ooof she is hitting him where it hurts

Lor:

YEP

Mace:

you’re a kid, honey

Lor:

oooof

John shoulda left the boys with Bobby waaaay back

Mace:

YEP

and never come back

Lor:

YEP

Mace:

oh SAMMY

Lor:

RIGHT?

I just love that moment so much. that Sam takes the time to go talk to the teacher and the teacher is still seeing things in him others aren't

Mace:

YES

Lor:

and the way in both the past and the present, Dean is being supportive in his own way but not really GETTING the issue Sam's dealing with

Mace:

YEP

Lor:

and the teacher, probably because HE is outside their group, DOES see the issue

such a nice little moment

Mace:

I think it’s because he’s good at spotting the outsiders, which is what good teachers can do, not necessarily because he’s outside their group because if that were the case then lots of other people would see what’s going on and they clearly don't

Lor:

oooo, YES I like that

and yes SUCH a good skill in a teacher

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Rewatching Family Remains

Welcome to “If You Don’t Have Ghost Humans, Regular Humans Will Do: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s4e11: Family Remains.

Dean is itchy-scratchy for a case, despite Sam’s protests that he’s exhausted and Dean should stop avoiding his feelings by running them ragged. Dean wins out when he finds them what looks like it should be a good old-fashioned haunted house. When they show up, the house appears to be for sale and empty, and after a quick look-see, they decide to do some research and come back later. In the meantime, the family who bought the house shows up to move in. Whoops. The boys think they’ve managed to convince the family of four plus dog and uncle to stay away (asbestos! Gas leak!), but Uncle Ted Knows Things About Houses and declares it safe. When they move in, things start to go bad. Sam and Dean come back, tell them it’s a ghost, and just about have them convinced when the ghost in question steps right across a salt line because—surprise! She’s actually a very alive feral child who’s been living in the walls. From there it gets gruesome and disturbing, with the family having to come together to save each other and Dean putting on an impressive display of channeling a lot of hell-guilt into needing to save everyone. (Shock.) Spoiler alert: yes, the dog dies.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

 Lor:

 oh precious freckled, teary green-eyed boy

   Mace:

 yep

 poor Sammy needs a week’s worth of sleep

Lor:

 he DOES

Sam is like if I'm this tired Dean must be dead

   Mace:

 yeah

   Lor:

 poor Sammy

   Mace:

 poor Bean

   Lor:

 haunted smaunted I want that porch

   Mace:

 HAHAHA YES

   “what?” “What?"

HAHAHA

   Lor:

 "what?" "what?”

YES

   Mace:

 CREEPY

   Lor:

 RIGHT?

 and I love the shot up at them

 it IS nice

   Mace:

 YES

 weird. I thought we’d already rewatched this one…

   Lor:

 I was just thinking that I feel like this is not where this episode belongs in the scheme of things

   Mace:

 HAHAHAHA of course you did

 Dean’s look at the girl when she says hooker sheets

   Lor:

 omg Dean's look at the daughter

 HAHAHAHA

   Mace:

 YES

   Lor:

 I love the little character things we often get from these one-off characters. like her handing the pictures out and then closing the screen door

she'll talk to them, but she ain’t coming out

   Mace:

 YES

   Lor:

 so, if I was moving into a new house, and some randos said they were from the county and then turns out they weren't, THAT is what would send me to a motel till I figured out what was up

   Mace:

 RIGHT?!

   Lor:

 and Danny is an idiot

   Mace:

 SNORK!!!!

 “really?” “No not really”

   Lor:

 "really?" "no not really"

   Mace:

 HAHAHA

   Lor:

 LOLOL

   Mace:

 Dammit, Danny

   Lor:

 yeah, butt out, TED

   Mace:

 HA

 maaaybe investigate this weird thing Danny is telling you a bit more?

   Lor:

 way to teach your kid that you believe what he tells you

 RIGHT?

   Mace:

 was the girl…licking her?

   Lor:

 I guess?

   Mace:

 okay. weird.

 I LOVE the border collie

   Lor:

 no, Buster, stay inside!

 YEP

   Mace:

 smartest member of that family, hands down

 DAMMIT. I just finished a book in which the dog died and I didn’t remember this. I CAN’T TAKE IT

   Lor:

 oh no!

I had kind of forgotten or I'da said!

 "what kind of ghost messes with a man's WHEELS"

   Mace:

 “what kind of ghost messes with a man’s WHEELS"

 HAHAHAHAHA

   Lor:

 YES

 Dean is so not in the mood for civilians

   Mace:

 LIKE SCOOBY DOO

 the head waggle back and forth omg

   Lor:

 oh he did NOT just call him Fonzie

   YES

   Mace:

 HAHAHA

 “yeah, about that"

   Lor:

 YES

  and that step over the line. SO CREEPY

   Mace:

 YES

 these eps with the actual people. THE SCARIEST

   Lor:

 YES

   Mace:

 “I’m telling you man. Humans"

   Lor:

 omg "psycho Nell" that is a DEEP CUT, Dean

   Mace:

 HAHAHA

   Lor:

 does anyone even remember that movie?

   Mace:

 apparently Dean does

   Lor:

 LOL

I love him

   Mace:

 YOU DO?!?!

   Lor:

 yeah, it took me awhile to come around, but I think he can stay

   Mace:

 snork!

 “every day"

oh Dean

   Lor:

 "you smell that?" "every day" omg, Dean, honey

   Mace:

 HAHAHA

   Lor:

 "well do you want to?" holds him

 "please nobody grab my leg"

   Mace:

 “please nobody grab my leg"

 HAHAHAHA

   Lor:

 YES

omg him putting his head in his hand and breathing for a second

   Mace:

 YES

   Lor:

 SERIOUSLY though, aside from just the "oh man, humans" of it, I think the ones where it's just humans are genuinely the creepiest in their presentation

   Mace:

 the complete lack of soundtrack for those few seconds is so powerful CRIPES

   Lor:

 YES

   Mace:

 ABSOLUTELY

they are always the most disturbing

   Lor:

 YEP

 "cause I had to carry him out"

"I couldn't get to him in time"

oh DEAN

   Mace:

 oooof

   Lor:

 how old is Suz? she still thinks bad things don't happen to good people?

   Mace:

yeah

   Lor:

 (I try to have sympathy for her bc this sucks for her, of course, but she bugs me)

   Mace:

 (yeah, I suspect she’s just in shock and still grieving and whatnot but she is annoying)

   Lor:

 "rent Juno, get over it"

   Mace:

 ooof

   Lor:

 "oh gross"

   Mace:

 YEP

   Lor:

 "humans, man"

   Mace:

 YES

   Lor:

 "like you know what hell's like"

   Mace:

 offsides, Dean

   Lor:

 okay, Dean, take a breath

YEP

let's not go all mean on your brother bc he hasn't been to hell

   Mace:

 ...yet

   Lor:

 HA!

   Mace:

 this poor girl

   Lor:

 right?

 oh Dean. it is not your personal responsibility to save every single person

   Mace:

 no, but he can save two by not letting this idiot go after his son

   Lor:

 HA! true

 oh JEEZ

I forgot there were two

   Mace:

 WHAT

I did too!!

   Lor:

 okay, Suz just went back up in my estimation a bit

   Mace:

 Ha! YES

 this family is gonna be screwed up for so long after this

   Lor:

 I bet the marriage counselor never thought of killing an attacking feral child as a way to strengthen their bond

 RIGHT?

   Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

   Lor:

 oh no he's off his food

   Mace:

 Dean’s not eating, he’s upset

 YES

   Lor:

 YES

 "I did it for the sheer pleasure" oooooof

   Mace:

 HOOOOOTTTTTT

   Lor:

 i just want to hold him and then carry him to therapy

   Mace:

 Dean, honey, you’re a complicated soul. you like saving people and you like torturing them. we all have facets. it’s all good.

   Lor:

 HAAAAAAHAHAHAHA

look, some people drink blood, some people torture people in hell for fun. it's fine. at least you're not your dad.

   Mace:

 YES

some call on alien hordes to attack NYC. it’s fine. it’s sexy, even.

 [after the episode ended:]

Lor:

 you know what else is cool about that ep? there's little hints that it's not a ghost. like Ted says it's not a ghost it's just some hillbilly chick (or something like that) and Dean yelling about what kind of ghost messes with a car like that.

 Mace:

 YEP

 Lor:

 and she never flickers. she LOOKS like ghosts we've seen, but she's always solid

   Mace:

 YES

I feel like there’s something there about Dean repeatedly saying, “Humans, man” as if he’s not one of them, but also he sees himself as a monster after the hell stuff, but also he’s clearly unhappy about not saving Ted and then killing the brother

I just can’t quite brain it together in a logical way

   Lor:

 oooo yes

   Mace:

 it’s possible that he thinks he’s the worst of both worlds, human and monster.

   Lor:

 oooooof

   Mace:

 and then Sammy is literally stuck between human and monster - poor aBeanination that he is

they both keep slipping off that tight rope both ways throughout the show

   Lor:

 YES

   Mace:

 and they pull to them people who blurr those lines all the time: Cas (fallen angel who wavers between human and not), Crowley, who can’t decide if he wants to be king of hell or just a regular human again…

   Lor:

 YAAAAS

   Lor:

 Benny

   Mace:

 BENNY

   Lor:

 Rowena

   Mace:

 well, Rowena knows what she is and has no issues with it, I think

   Lor:

 oh true!

   Mace:

 Bad Ass Bitch, is the technical term, I think. And she becomes queen of hell, so yeah, she sticks it

   Lor:

 I was thinking just being pulled to "dark" but that's not what you were saying

 YAAAAS

   Mace:

 yeah, the boys are a vortex for identity crisis in all forms

Outsiders Unite!!

   Lor:

 and Dean is always being pulled (or pushing himself) in two different directions. is he a badass or is he soft. is he the grunt or is he a genius who reads. is he into women or men

 YES

   Mace:

 exactly

   Lor:

 (it's both, babies, it's both)

   Mace:

 with Free Will come Free Boundaries, and with those come Grey Areas and Confusion

   Lor:

 YAAAAAS

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Rewatching In the Beginning

Welcome to “‘1.21 Gigawatts!’ ‘You are my density!’”: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s4e3: In the Beginning.

  Cas sends Dean back in time to meet his parents and his grandparents and to witness the moment when the Yellow-Eyed Demon sinks his claws into Mary.  Dean decides to try to kill YED so that he and Sam can have a normal childhood, but, of course, that doesn’t work out. We also find out that Cas likes watching Dean when he’s sleeping. But they’re just friends. Uh-huh.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

   Lor:

ngggggg Cas

 Mace:

YAS

 Mace:

his LIPS

 Mace:

 I mean, honestly

 Lor:

YAAS

Lor:

tsk, Sammy, sneaking out while Dean is sleeping

 Mace:

oh Sammy, sneaking out

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

LOL

 Lor:

aw, Dean, get under the covers, baby

 Lor:

"Hello, Dean"

 Mace:

“hello, Dean”

 Mace:

 OMG

 Lor:

LOLOLOL

 Lor:

no Dean, he only likes to watch YOU sleep

 Mace:

YAS

 Mace:

 Marty McFly vibes

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

the little nods are SO GOOD

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

oh look, young John takes care of strangers better than Dad!John will take care of his own kids

 Mace:

 YEP

 Lor:

I love that it takes Dean a minute

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

probably because based on the furniture in any house of anyone he's every liked, it still is the 70s

 Mace:

 omg yes, and all the motels

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

I love the screaming angel wings title card

 Mace:

me too!

 Mace:

 we’ve moved into the seizure-inducing era of the openings

 Lor:

LOL yep

 Mace:

 Cas’s HAIR

 Lor:

"well bend it back!"

 Lor:

YAAAAAAS

 Mace:

 I would LOVE to have that van

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

though I would take the Impala first

 Mace:

 of course

 Lor:

Dean Van Halen haaaahahahaha

 Mace:

DEAN VAN HALEN

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

LOL

 Lor:

"been any cattle mutilations in town lately?"

 Lor:

I love him

 Mace:

 SNORK

smooth, Dean

 Lor:

oh yes. super smooth, super subtle

 Mace:

 omg Dean in a mirthmobile I LOVE IT

 Lor:

YAAAAAS

 Lor:

I love Mary's shirt

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

"I'm going to hell. again."

 Mace:

“...again"

 Mace:

HAHAHA

 Mace:

 that’s hilarious because I was just thinking in the last scene, “Is John…attracted to Dean here?"

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Mace:

 oh look, Dean’s now been abused by both parents

 Lor:

HA!

 Lor:

yep

 Lor:

"are you a hunter?" poor Dean. just upending his WHOLE life

 Mace:

 YEP

 Lor:

"we're practically family"

 Lor:

"clearly not enough"

 Mace:

 HA

 Lor:

"Samuel and... Deanna?"

 Lor:

HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 Mace:

 omg, I don’t think I caught that the first time around

 Lor:

I LOVE that Mary named her firstborn son after her MOTHER

 Lor:

I LOVE IT

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

omg Dean's face

 Mace:

 HAHAHA YES

 Lor:

"the web of information you have assembled"

 Mace:

HAHAHA

 Mace:

 OMG FATHER!DEAN

 Lor:

OMG I forgot they both showed up separately in priest outfits!

 Mace:

 AM DED

 Lor:

"Father Chaney" haaaahahahaha

 Mace:

YAS

 Mace:

 he looks SO GOOD in that suit

 Lor:

RIGHT?!

 Mace:

 and I want Mary’s coat

 Lor:

YEP

 Lor:

dun dun DUN

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA YEP

 Lor:

that is SO MUCH fruit salad for four people

 Mace:

HA

 Mace:

 “who, where, and when” “why?” HAHAHA

 Lor:

LOL

 Lor:

you do not, Dean

 Mace:

 YEP

 Lor:

"what's he like?" oh, Dean

 Mace:

 right?

 Lor:

oh DEAN

 Lor:

his FACE

 Mace:

yeah, Mary, outsiders can’t break in

 Mace:

 right?!

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Lor:

him trying to make her not get killed in the future I CANNOT

 Lor:

OH DEAN

 Mace:

 oh DEAN

 Lor:

CAS APPEARING IN THE CAR

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

"Sam is not looking for you" OOOOF

 Mace:

 right?!

 Lor:

"oh, I care"

 Mace:

 he’ll feel guilty about it always of course

 Lor:

of course

 Lor:

god Dean's green eyes

 Mace:

 right?! He looks SO GOOD in this episode

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

man, I LOVE when he lays it all out for someone and then lowers his gun

 Mace:

YEP

 Mace:

 oh FUCK YOU SAMUEL

 Lor:

Samuel, you deserve everything you get, you putz

 Lor:

is bobby the ONLY father figure who ever tells Dean he's proud of him or similar when he's NOT possessed by a demon?

 Mace:

omg right?!

 Mace:

 Dean is SUS

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

aaaaaand now he gets to be assaulted by his grandfather. this boy needs so much therapy

 Mace:

oooh Angry Dean Thrown Against a Wall

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

the way this is almost sexual

 Mace:

 yeah it’s...weird

 Lor:

it is SO CREEPY

 Mace:

 SO. CREEPY.

 Lor:

god Dean's ANGER

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

Jensen kills this

 Mace:

he does

 Mace:

 oh Mary, you dummy

 Lor:

right?

 Lor:

also, why does she not remember?

 Mace:

 RIGHT?!?!

 Lor:

the Dean stuff gets wiped, but she should remember the demon deal?

 Lor:

you don't just forget that?

 Mace:

 correct

 Lor:

O.M.G. the way Cas and Dean look at each other there

 Mace:

the look on Dean’s face

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

"destiny can't be changed, Dean"

 Lor:

they way this becomes the theme of the whole SHOW

 Lor:

I love it

 Mace:

then why say “you have to stop it” Cas?!

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Lor:

so he would try, I guess?

 Mace:

 oh wait it was a reference to Sam I guess

 Lor:

I guess

 Mace:

 but it’s still bad writing

 Lor:

I feel like sometimes Cas wakes Dean up in the night now to apologize for doing this to him

 Mace:

 AW

 Lor:

i mean, it's so CRUEL. it definitely plagues Cas

 Lor:

yeah, it feels like the writing there is supposed to make you go "oh! i see" and instead you just go "eh?"

 Mace:

yep. I think we’re supposed to think it’s clever in hindsight, but instead it’s just slipshod and clumbsy

 Mace:

 wow, that b does not belong in there

  Lor:

LOL

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Rewatching Monster Movie

Welcome to “Good EVEning: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s4e5: Monster Movie.

  Sam and Dean are in Pennsylvania for a case that sounds like it may be a vampire attack but may also just be a vampire wannabe. Dean doesn't care, though, because it's Oktoberfest, he's been rehymenated, and he's ready to party. But then there's a sort of werewolf attack. And then a... mummy come to life? It becomes clear that they have a shapeshifter who loves old monster movies, but who is he and what's his next mov(i)e? Before they quite figure it out, the monster attacks Dean and his bar wench date (who really needs to join the cast for much more than just one episode because she's amazing) and then next thing he knows, Dean is in lederhosen and strapped to an electrocution table. This is one of the top ten very best SPN episodes. Shot in black and white and with all the little trappings of the classic horror films, it's both a send up and a tribute. It's also one of the best of the hilarious-up-until-the-end-when-it-rips-your-heart-out eps.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

  [and we begin:]

  Lor:

eeeee the black and white and the MUSIC

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

it's like I know it's coming but I still squee in my soul

 Mace:

SNORK

Mace:

Deanderhosen

 Mace:

 it’s coming

 Lor:

YAAAAAS

 Mace:

 and Sammy looks so pretty in B&W

 Lor:

and one of my very favorite one-off "women of the week"

 Lor:

the siiiiign

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

" a little more gusto"

 Mace:

“little more gusto, please"

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

LOL

 Lor:

"an honest to goodness monster hunt"

 Lor:

"a black and white case" !!! I cannot I love it

 Mace:

oh Dean, like you, it’s not straight

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

 Mace:

 Octoberfest 2008 – [son] was 1 month old...

 Lor:

"without me"

 Lor:

awwwwww

 Mace:

 “PIG PRETZEL”

 Lor:

"big pretzel!"

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

now I want one

 Mace:

 fair food and pretty blonds = Dean’s in a happy place

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 ANGUS AND YOUNG

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

the way it's not just b and w but they SHOOT it like an old movie

 Lor:

geeks so hard

 Mace:

 YES this one is SO well done in so many ways

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 she is SO PRETTY

 Lor:

he's a MAVERICK

 Mace:

 omg Sammy’s FACE

 Lor:

she IS

 Lor:

YAAAS

 Mace:

 omg the triangle noise when he winks

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 I don’t think I noticed that one before

 Lor:

me either

 Lor:

and this dude. he is just playing it UP and it is so great

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 Mr. BREWER drinking from a stein at Octoberfest

 Lor:

YAAAAS

 Mace:

 a vamPYR

 Lor:

"he looked like a VAMPIRE"

 Mace:

 omg Sammy’s SMILE

 Lor:

omg Sam trying to keep a straight face

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

THEIR FACES

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

I LOVE that he knows when he can play around

 Mace:

oh SAMMY

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 “come again?” OMG SAMMY

 Lor:

HE'S REHYMENATED

 Mace:

 HAAAAAHAHAHAHA

 Lor:

hahahahahaha Sam

 Mace:

Sam is longsuffering but amused

 I need him to have that attitude with me at all times

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

"not weird enough"

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 ugh GROSS

 Lor:

the juxtaposition bt this jerk trying to get what he wants and Dean trying to get what he wants

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

there's no wolves in Pennsylvania, but if we don't have sex my balls will explode. what an ass

 Mace:

YEP

 Mace:

Sam’s hair!

 Mace:

 the little curls in the back

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

they both look amazing in their suits in black and white

 Lor:

her and her giant soda

 Mace:

YES THEY DO

 Mace:

“DAMN!”

 Mace:

 omg DEAN

 Lor:

awww Dean, I will rub your temples

 Mace:

 all those faces in, like, 5 seconds

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Mace:

 the loosened TIES

 Lor:

YAAAAAS

 Lor:

why is that such an amazing look it is SO GOOD

 Mace:

 YAAASSS

 Lor:

I really love Jamie and Dean together

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

OMG HIS FOAM MOUSTACHE

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

 Lor:

dude. RUN

 Mace:

HAHAHA they never do in those old movies

 Mace:

 but they generally don’t say “Holy mother of crap"

 Lor:

I was just thinking that!

 Lor:

hahahahahaha

 Lor:

omg they are both so annoyed

 Mace:

 YES “this is stupid"

 Lor:

awww Sammy just lets him go for his date without snarking at him

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

Jamie is a better person than me. I'da kept waiting for Dean

 Mace:

 Sam is playing a big brother part in this episode it seems

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

omg same

 Mace:

“…okay”

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

"okay" and then he just punches him!

 Lor:

the music! the shadows!

 Mace:

YES!!

 Mace:

 THE SCOOTER

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

INTERMISSION

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

"the ear part?"

 Mace:

 EW

 Lor:

yeah gross

 Lor:

"the x files is a tv show, this is real"

 Lor:

I love that line so much

 Mace:

“the xfiles is a tv show, this is real” OMG

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

Dean should know this [details about the old Dracula movies]

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

"some people paint"

 Lor:

"that must suck"

 Lor:

she puts her finger RIGHT ON IT

 Mace:

 she pinpoints it pretty quickly

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

awww she goes to him

 Lor:

I LOVE HER

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 ME TOO

 Lor:

Dean, honey, you're lying to yourself, baby

 Mace:

 the way he sits there with his arm on the back of the bench

 Lor:

YAAAAAAS

 Lor:

"man I hope not"

 Mace:

sigh

 Mace:

 “YEAH, stay for a drink”

 Lor:

"yeeeah stay for a drink" haaaahahahaha

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

LOL

 Lor:

poor Dean. he just wants to get horizontal with the beautiful lady who understands him and gets his humor

 Mace:

 Sam does that befuddled look SO WELL

 Lor:

he DOES

 Mace:

 YEP

 Lor:

MY GOD THE SHADOW

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

and then Sam's face when he switches up the music

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

“it’s supposed to come off"

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

 Lor:

"it's supposed to come off" "no it's not!"

 Lor:

LOLOLOLOL

 Lor:

"well, I didn't actually FLY"

 Mace:

HA

 Mace:

 THE HARP

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

I am a very bad person bc Dean all woozy is adorable

 Mace:

 YES HE IS

 Lor:

THERE IT IS

 Mace:

 YAAASSS

 Lor:

lookit him in his little outfit

 Mace:

 YESYESYES

 Lor:

Dean's face

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

"what the hell's up with the mummy?"

 Lor:

"I am all monsters" oooooooof

 Lor:

this guy KILLS IT [ed. the actor is Todd Stashwich]

 Mace:

 he really really does

 Lor:

"ah but this movie is mine"

 Mace:

 YES i love how Sam and Dean do the same thing much later on

 Lor:

I love how they take this absolute FEST of beautiful delightful nonsense and turn it into such a neat thematic exploration of monsters

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 YES

  Lor:

"Good EEFning"

 Lor:

omg teh pizza guy "uh huh"

 Mace:

SNORK

 Mace:

 this pizza guy has SEEN things

 Lor:

"Did you order garlic"

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Lor:

like, what else has the poor dude come across

 Mace:

exactly

 Mace:

 SMARTY SAMMY

 Lor:

again, no snark from Sam about Jamie pets him good brothering, Sam

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 super goofy and then that flash of serious insanity I LOVE IT

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

and there's just that hint of pain in there too

 Mace:

 YEP

 Lor:

"you're the only one I don't wanna scare"

 Mace:

 ooooof

 Lor:

yeah

 Lor:

"real is being born this way. different"

 Lor:

OUTSIDER

 Mace:

dropping the accent and the game makes him instantly more complex and it’s amazing

 Mace:

 YEP

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 and the parallel to Sam’s situation AGAIN

 Lor:

and the way it's shot. his profile

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

omg those sleeves rolled up above Dean's elbows

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

"hey there, Hansel"

 Mace:

“hey there, handsome"

 Mace:

HAHAHA

 Mace:

 oh HANSEL THAT’S SO MUCH BETTER

 Lor:

LOL

 Lor:

omg Dean's impressed with the setup

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

the VIOLIN

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

"perhaps this is how the movie should end" oooooof

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

YAY they finally get to smooch

 Mace:

the popped collar

 Mace:

 i suspect they did more than that

 Lor:

well SURE

 Lor:

but we get to see the smooches

 Mace:

 back ON THE JOB

 Lor:

"monster gets the gank"

 Mace:

 “you heard me"

 Lor:

"lucky guess"

 Mace:

HAHAHAHA

 Mace:

 SO GOOD

 Lor:

YES

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Rewatching Folsom Prison Blues

Welcome to “‘Always be a good boy, don’t ever play with guns’: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s2e19: Folsom Prison Blues

  The boys get themselves caught and put in the clink on purpose to investigate some strange deaths happening behind the bars. And yep, it's a ghost. The ghost and the deaths are good and creepy (not to mention our own DeanDean coming in for a near-death-by-ghost-squeezing-his-heart scene), but what makes this one so intense is how much Sam and Dean risk with this incarceration stunt - they come near to being caught by our friend Victor. They also look better than any human has a right to in orange.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

 Lor:

omg Dean on the phone with Victor. the TREMBLING

 Mace:

YES

I get SO nervous for them when they go up against The Law

Lor:

YES

even though I know EXACTLY how this one comes out, I always get SO NERVOUS. WHAT IF THEY GET STUCK IN THERE

 Mace:

RIGHT?!?!

WHY DO THEY DO THIS TO US?!

 Lor:

cause they are MEAN

 Mace:

THEY ARE

this prisoner is the insane vampire that Buffy has to fight when the council makes Giles take her powers away for the test

 Lor:

YES

I KNEW we just saw him on Buffy not too far back but I couldn't remember what it was

 Lor:

poor Randall

 Mace:

 poor Randal

 Lor:

lol

 Lor:

maybe if this guard weren't such a peckerhead he wouldn't GET ghost killt

 Mace:

it’s possible, yes

 Mace:

 you steal those artifacts, boys, and the Chumash tribe will give your penises diseases

 Lor:

SNORK

 Lor:

omg the MUGSHOTS

 Mace:

 I love that he’s watched Zoolander

 Lor:

oh is he quoting Zoolander?

I've never seen it

 Mace:

 we ALL think you’re adorable, Dean

 Lor:

WE DO

 Mace:

 Blue Steel is the Zoolander look

 Lor:

I love that they were getting caught on purpose but then Victor shows up and it's WHOOPS

 Mace:

 FRECKLES

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 YEP

 Lor:

oh Victor

 Mace:

 this poor guy has no idea that the only reason he caught them was because they wanted to be caught

 Lor:

YEP

 Lor:

awww but Dean and Victor weren't done flirting with each other

 Mace:

snork

 Mace:

 his little “okay"

 Lor:

lol Dean

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 oh SAMMY

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

the look he's giving Dean

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

"long storied career of dumb and crazy"

dont you DARE mar that face with a teardrop tattoo

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

good boy, Dean. I like your thinking

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 not that I don’t like the idea of tattoos on either of them, but yeah, no, not on the face

 Lor:

correct. anywhere else is fine

 Mace:

 i love the idea of one peaking out of their shirts and a little up their necks…

 Lor:

YAAAAAS

 Lor:

I love that Dean just eats the food and Sammy is picky. feels correct for their childhoods

 Mace:

it very much does

THE WINK

 Lor:

"trust me. let it go" nnnnngggggg

 Mace:

 DED

 Lor:

AND THEN THE WINK

 Lor:

DED WITH YOU

 Mace:

and then his absolute competence with the fighting

ded a second time

 Lor:

YAAAAAS

 Lor:

"we having fun yet?"

 Mace:

 ah, the universal sign for “you’re dead”

 Lor:

and Sammy's face when the other prisoner does the "you're dead" thing. like he's just kind of DONE

 Mace:

Drax should be watching

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

Lucas is not listening to him

 Mace:

 not he isn't

 Lor:

i kind of love this public defender

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

and you're lucky she didn't beat you with that briefcase, Victor

 Lor:

"all right. bad icebreaker" I love you, Sammy

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

"cause I got an idiot for a brother" "that'll do it"

 Mace:

 HAHAHA FUNNY CUZ IT’S TRUE

 Lor:

YEP

I LOVE HIM

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

"he did everything but yell boo"

 Mace:

 HOW do they look so good in those jumpers?!

 Lor:

RIGHT?

  Lor:

WHO LOOKS GOOD IN ORANGE?

 Lor:

NO ONE

 Lor:

except the Winchesters

 Mace:

 you got that right

 Lor:

the swiping the salt while walking past it

 Mace:

I mean. I just want to cuddle Sammy in that thing

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

I also kind of like the shoes? and I mean, WHY?

 Mace:

 HAHAHA YES

 Lor:

lying down with crossed arms and ankles, I CANNOT

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 aw, Tiny, hon

 Lor:

yeah

 Lor:

poor Tiny

 Mace:

yeah

 Mace:

i got distracted by Dean’s lovely agony face

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Lor:

that boy WEARS a bruise

 Lor:

is a bad person

 Mace:

 YYAASSS right there with you

 Lor:

"I earned these" in his soft little voice

 Lor:

SOMEONE LOVE THAT BOY AND HOLD HIM FOREVER

 Mace:

 and HOW is Sammy’s hair THAT GOOD in jail?!

  Lor:

RIGHT?

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

my GOD Dean's ARMS

 Mace:

Sam. Dean fits in everywhere and belongs nowhere. what show have you been watching?

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Lor:

come on, Sammy, pay attention

 Lor:

and switching gears, MARA'S FINGERS

 Mace:

 OMG YES

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Lor:

short painted nails. LOVE THEM

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 better on a man, but still

 Lor:

yeah

 Lor:

"you are beating the holy hell out of me, man"

 Mace:

 HA

 Lor:

"you wanna have this fight for real, Dean?"

 Mace:

 “GUYS!” “WHAT?!”

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 Daddy didn’t do anything right - Dean raised himself and Sammy right

 Lor:

omg the little grin when he says “where do you want it"

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

Dean is just a miracle of nature and the love he got in the first four years and Sam is ALL Dean

 Mace:

 YEP

 Lor:

i really don't think she did anything wrong?

 Mace:

 she didn’t

 Lor:

she seems like she thinks she did

 Lor:

maybe just because it seems that it did have something to do with them getting out? or maybe she's just letting Victor see what he wants to see

 Mace:

I think maybe she’s playing the part of guilty to throw victor off the idea that she’s gonna lie to him

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

this fake out with the cemetery is so great

 Mace:

 it really is

 Lor:

bounces the next one is one of my very favorite episodes!

#watchingspnagain #watchingspnagain 2x19 #spn #supernatural #spn meta #spn spoilers #spn 2x19 #watchingspnagain real peril #watchingspnagain outsiders

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Rewatching Houses of the Holy

Welcome to “tHAt’S mIcHAel, rIGhT?: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s2e13: Houses of the Holy

 The boys decide to check out a murder in which the murderer is convinced that an angel told her to do it, and as they're looking into that one, another murder happens with the same story from the perp. Turns out the victims were both sleazeballs and also regularly attended the same church. Dean's 100% skeptical, insisting it's a spirit and not an angel because of course angels don't exist since neither of them nor John have ever seen one. He's shocked and troubled, then, when he discovers that his little brother Sammy does, in fact, believe in angels. It turns out nobody here's been touched by an angel (yet - WE'RE LOOKING AT YOU, DEAN WINCHESTER); instead it's the vengeful spirit of a priest who was shot just outside the church and who is convinced he is an angel. By the end of the episode, Sam and Dean are both wavering in their respective convictions, and both give very good sad face puppy eyes.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

 Mace:

Oooooh, is this the one where Sammy gets religion, sort of?

 Lor:

YES

Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

and Dean is like "come on, Sam, there's clearly no angels and god and shit"

 Mace:

 sweet sweet innocent Dean not believing in those angels

 Lor:

ACCIDENTALLY AMAZING

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

YAAASSS

 Mace:

 SAAAAMMMM

 Lor:

nrrrrggg SAMMEH

 Mace:

 DED

 Lor:

those SCRUBS

 Mace:

 can’t answer on account of being ded on floor

 Lor:

lolololol

 shall I poke you with a stick?

 Mace:

 rude.

 Lor:

lolololol

  Mace:

 rude but appropriate since poking is just what a certain angel will want to be doing to Dean later

 Lor:

SNORK

 Lor:

"and the word was... to kill someone?" oh Sammy. just WAIT

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA YES! unknowing BABIES

 Lor:

lol

 OMG DEAN

 Mace:

YAS

 “It’s kinda making me uncomfortable"

 Lor:

SNORK

 "my last quarter"

 Mace:

 oh DEAN

 Lor:

how do you think you're gonna do your laundry now, child?

 "there's no such thing as unicorns?" SAAMMMMY

 Lor:

"and you've got angels on the bullcrap list?"

 Mace:

 YAAASS

 Mace:

 oh Dean, one of those angels watches you, honey

 Lor:

YES

 poor Cas. he's just TWITCHING in heaven

 Mace:

can you imagine the scowl he’s making in heaven right now?

 HAHAHAHA OMG LOR

 Lor:

MACE OMG

 Mace:

 i love us so very much

 Lor:

YES

"Sam, I found it" DEAN WINCHESTER

 Mace:

 SUCH SNARK

 Lor:

I think he protests too much

like maybe he might like it to be true

 Mace:

YUP

 Mace:

that’s called hubris, Dean, and nemesis in the form of a hot angel is coming for you

 Lor:

 YAAAS

  Mace:

 or scared that it is true and he’s not worthy

 Lor:

ope YEP that's it

 Mace:

 takes a bow

 Lor:

curtsies like a dope

 Mace:

HAHAHA I LOVE IT

ewewew to the fingernail

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 the look they share

 Mace:

YES

 who stands there like a dummy and doesn’t get under a door frame?

 Lor:

LOLOLOLOL

 practice better angel earthquake hygiene, dude!

 Mace:

 HAHAHA hygiene!!

 Lor:

takes a bow

 Mace:

 not his forte, I think

 Lor:

noo, I suspect not

 Mace:

 but he’s polite, at least. introduces himself before he gets stabby

 Lor:

HA

 Mace:

“did you bring quarters?"

 DEAN WINCHESTER

 Lor:

poor Dean. has to listen to the police scanner rather than getting to hedonist

 aww, Sammy, don't be so mean

 Mace:

“what are you talking about I eat"

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

I was just thinking that

he loves to eat

 Mace:

HE DOES

 Lor:

"awww, I don't want to hear this"

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

"I guess if you're going to stab someone, good timing"

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

ooooo this is the bit where Sam says "isn't that Michael" and is effectively pointing at Dean

 Mace:

OOOO YES

 Mace:

THERE IT IS

 so so cool

 Lor:

YAAAAS

 ACCIDENTALLY AMAZING

 Mace:

 YES

  Mace:

more loving than wrathful - that’s…not right

 Lor:

HA! it sure is not

 Lor:

except for Cas... mostly

  Mace:

 Cas turns good because of Dean

 Lor:

YESYESYES

  Lor:

ooo, that's interesting. Dean seems not to know the scripture but MUCH later he knows the Bible well and says he reads it. WHAT might happen to make him take an interest?

 Mace:

HAHAHAHA

 Mace:

 well, he did run out of quarters...

 Lor:

HAAAAAHAHAHAHA

  Mace:

 Dean is uncomfortable with Sammy having faith and that needs sussing out on so many levels

 Lor:

don't throw stones, Dean. praying will be very useful to you

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

the way he GRIPS him

 Mace:

So all the people who have been ‘chosen’ so far have been fringe - outsiders...

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

“glow sticks and a Dr Suess hat” omg

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

well THAT'S uncomfortable, Sammy. there are no thought crimes

 Mace:

 yeah this is awkward

 Lor:

oh Dean

she wasn't wrong, Dean

 Mace:

 angry little sad muffin

 Lor:

she didn't say they was watching over HER

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

oh, there will be hard proof

 Lor:

...sorrynotsorry

 Mace:

 SNORK!!

 Lor:

"hope Whoopi's available"

 Mace:

HAHAHA

 Mace:

 SPONGEBOB SIDE DOWN

 Lor:

“put it Spongebob side down”

 Lor:

OMG I LUFF HIM

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 tricky, Dean

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

so COMPETENT

 Mace:

 nnnnggg YES

 Lor:

there's snow on the ground

 so unusual

 Mace:

 yeah I was just thinking about that

 Lor:

but of course

 Mace:

OF COURSE

 Mace:

 LALALALA not listening to Sammy’s Latin

 Lor:

haaaaaahahahahahaha

 Lor:

omg Sam's face

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

"actually maybe I can't"

 Lor:

I LUFF HIM TOO

 Mace:

snork

 YAS

 Lor:

"it's based on early Christian rights, if that helps any?"

 Mace:

oh Sammy’s face when he realizes it’s not an angel

 poor kitten

 Lor:

"it's just Father Gregory" he's so SAD

 Mace:

 Dean, bud, you’re not being very stealthy with the following

 Lor:

LOL

 what, you think someone would notice a GIANT black car from forty years before that growls?

 Mace:

SNORK!

 Mace:

SLIDING ACROSS THE HOOD TO CHECK ON HER

 AM DED

 Lor:

YES

thinking to reach in and hit the button so her door would unlock AND asking not just if she's okay but if she has a cell phone

 Mace:

 YESYESYES

 Lor:

poor Thomas

 Mace:

Sammy’s puppy eyes

 I CANNOT

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

yeah, poor Thomas BUT SAMMY

 SO CUTE

 Lor:

lol

 aw man, pick someone else. Raphael's a jerk

 Mace:

 they’re all a-holes (except that one)

 Lor:

lol

 Mace:

(you know, that Cas one)

 (he’s pretty okay)

 Lor:

Gabe is... okayish? eventually?

 (lol yeah, he's okay. he can stay)

 Mace:

 (in fact, you could say he’s okeydokey)

 Lor:

(haaaahahahahaha)

 Mace:

 Gabe is awesome but also a huge a-hole

 Lor:

mmm. fair

 mrrrrrg Baby

 poor Dean. he's shook

 Mace:

HE IS

 the decor in this room is…CLASSY

 Lor:

HA

 oh Sam

 Mace:

 both of them are shook and for opposite reasons I LOVE IT

 Lor:

YESYESYES

 "I'm watching out for you"

 I CANNOT

 Mace:

 he’s just one person but he’s also DEAN WINCHESTER and I think that counts as a bit more than just one person

 Lor:

AGREED

 Mace:

 I’d be okay with him watching out for me

 Lor:

YES

 "maybe... God's will"

 Mace:

 Cas. You can call it Cas, Dean. IT WAS CAS

 Lor:

oooof the two of them

 Lor:

OOOOOOOO

 Lor:

I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT

 Lor:

I LOVE THAT

 Mace:

takes another bow

 Lor:

curtsies even more dopily

 Mace:

 That whole “it’s god’s will” bit is so…OOOOF

 Lor:

yeah

 Mace:

 he will look back one day and CRINGE at that

 Lor:

YEP

#watchingspnagain #watchingspnagain 2x13 #spn #supernatural #spn meta #spn spoilers #spn 2x13 #watchingspnagain angels #watchingspnagain mary #watchingspnagain outsiders

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Rewatching Nightshifter

Welcome to “Everybody’s Working for the Mandroid: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today: s2e12: Nightshifter

 Sam and Dean are working a string of robberies where things feel… supernatural when they encounter Ronald, a security guard at a bank that’s been robbed. Ron *swears* his fellow guard, who robbed the bank, was Not Himself. And Ron thinks he knows why. Because he was a mandroid. Dean seems to connect a bit with Ron (he did some good research, after all), but ultimately Sam tells Ron he’s full of it. The boys, sure they are hunting a shapeshifter, get into the bank disguised as techies working on the security system, but when Ron shows up with a gun and locks everyone inside, Sam and Dean have to deal with all the freaked-out bank employees, a confused Ron, and the shapeshifter—who could be just about anyone in the bank. Things go from bad to worse when the FBI show up hunting Sam and Dean. Poor Ron ends up dead and the boys play cat and mouse with the shapeshifter before making a brilliant escape from the FBI via one of the best needle drops in all of television.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

  Mace:

 oh NO THIS ONE

 Lor:

LOL

  Mace:

 I get so nervous watching this one

Lor:

 ooof, yeah

 omg the look on Dean's face there

  Mace:

 YES

 DEAN WINCHESTER

 Lor:

 LORD he knows how to work that girl

  Mace:

 when does he stop doing this?

at some point he stops flirting like a goof

 Lor:

smacks him upside

 a bit after Cas shows up

  Mace:

 ah well sure

 Lor:

 (I'm not even kidding)

  Mace:

 makes sense

 Lor:

 YES

  Mace:

 my god Sam looks good

 Lor:

 he DOES

  Mace:

 the way Dean keeps looking over at Sam while getting the number

ADORABLE

 Lor:

 YES

 "no they're doing our job but they don't know it so they suck at it"

pets him

  Mace:

 YES

 oh Ronald

 Lor:

 YES

he knows exactly how to work Ronald too

  Mace:

 he sure does

 Lor:

 lookit the little waves in Sam's haaaair

  Mace:

 YAAAASSSS

 Lor:

 that is LITERALLY a cyberman from Doctor Who

  Mace:

 it LITERALLY IS

 poor Ronald accidentally sort of understands

MANDROID

 Lor:

YES

and there's no way Ronald doesn't know that

  Mace:

 HAHAHA YUP

 Lor:

 ....I say with love and understanding

  Mace:

 of course

 Lor:

 omg Dean's face

  Mace:

 YES

he’s impressed

 Lor:

 he's like 60 percent hooooboy and 40 percent impressed

YES

  Mace:

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

 awww Dean was waiting for Sam to really tell him the truth

  Mace:

 yeah

Sam’s trying to protect him but Dean would tell him the truth

 Lor:

 yep

 now I need fanfic in which Dean and Ronald are poker buddies

  Mace:

 HA

 Lor:

 it's an AU where Dean is a civilian and Ronald has all these crazy theories that he tells Dean over poker and Dean thinks he's nuts but he also really enjoys Ronald's passion and knowledge. and then one day an angel drops in on Dean's head

  Mace:

 HA

 “he says okeydokey"

 Lor:

 "I like him. He says okey dokey"

YES

Dean is drawn to the things in people that other people find weird or odd

  Mace:

 DEEEAAANNN

 HE IS

and also butts

 Lor:

 haaaaahahahahahaha yep

  Mace:

 oh Ronald

 Lor:

 sigh

 "especially us"

  Mace:

 “WE’RE NOT WORKING FOR THE MANDROID"

Sam is DONE

 Lor:

 mmmm, Dean on his knees. I'm fine

  Mace:

 HAAAHAHAHA

 Lor:

 Sam is SO done

 Lor:

 "I'm not just gonna walk in here naked"

  Mace:

 nnnnggg

 Lor:

 lol

 "Yes. NO!"

  Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

 HOW could you not just believe him

LOOK AT THAT FACE

 Lor:

 his stupid dumb freckles on his stupid dumb face

 HAAAHAHAHA YES

  Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

 I would believe him

 oooooh we get to meet Victor

  Mace:

 of course

 oh RIGHT

I like Victor

he’s okeydokey

 Lor:

 YES

I love him

 haaaaahahahahahaha Sam's face

  Mace:

 HA! Sam’s face when the women gushes over Dean

HAHAHAHA

 Lor:

 YES

 THAT KNIFE FLIP

  Mace:

 YES

 …but there are also werewolves...

 Lor:

 also, I love Dean in colors but that tan flannel is FINE

  Mace:

 IT IS

 Lor:

 yeah, I always wonder about that

  Mace:

 and how does that make sense anyway? These guys are not really like werewolves at all...

 Lor:

 yeah, only in that they change form

  Mace:

 yeah i guess

 aw, Ronald

 Lor:

 but it's a weird comparison

  Mace:

 I feel so bad for him

 Lor:

 yeah, poor dude

 YEP

  Mace:

 “it’s not looking good, Ron"

 Lor:

 mrrrrg profile

  Mace:

 “he’s like a real…hero…or something” OMG

 Lor:

 lolololol

  Mace:

 This is not Sam’s favorite day

 Lor:

 omg Dean

 it is NOT

 "yeah!"

  Mace:

 omg the thumbs up

 Lor:

 YAS

 omg poor Sam

  Mace:

 he’s so grumpy I LOVE IT

 Lor:

 YES

  Mace:

 “hi Ronald."

 Lor:

 "Hi, Ronald"

  Mace:

  HAHAHAHA

 Lor:

 lolololololol

  Mace:

 OMG US

 Lor:

 YES

 omg Sam is so finished

  Mace:

 he’s having SUCH a bad day

 Lor:

 he really is

and Dean is allllmost having fun

  Mace:

 it’s so funny how they’re handling things differently: Sam is annoyed and grumpy - Dean is in problem solving mode but neither are freaking out of course

 HAHAHA YES

 Lor:

 YES

 oi! stop slamming my Dean's head into things

  Mace:

 oh no RONALD

it never gets easier to watch this scene

 Lor:

 NOPE

and the SOUND

  Mace:

 YES

 poor Dean

 Lor:

 oh Dean.

  Mace:

 of course he feels responsible

 Lor:

yeah

  Mace:

 you can’t save everyone, buddy

 Lor:

 though you do try

  Mace:

 unless they’re witches. he hates witches

 Lor:

 ha! yep

 Lor:

 nnngggg Sammy

  Mace:

 YAS being all stern

 Lor:

 I love how he took charge from Dean when Dean was momentarily not in charge after Ron got shot

 YES

  Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

 "we're so screwed"

  Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

 VICTOR!

  Mace:

 YES!

 Lor:

 I love him

  Mace:

 “there’s a monster in that bank” and then they cut to Sam

I MEAN

 Lor:

 YES

 him and Missouri are probably top on my list of characters I wish they kept around longer

  Mace:

 agreed

 Lor:

 "Hi, Sherry." GAWD

melts

  Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

 "you don't know crap about my dad"

  Mace:

 the terrified look when Victor starts talking about John

 Lor:

 YES

  Mace:

 Yoicks

 Lor:

 hitting his head with the phone

  Mace:

 YES

 It’s great how Victor knows them but absolutely doesn’t know them

 Lor:

 YES

and he's SUCH a great window into what they look like from the outside

  Mace:

 they’re all the things he says they are but not at all in the way they say

 HE IS

 Lor:

 YES

 Sam's face when she faints

  Mace:

 HA! They’re so confused

 Lor:

 YES

  Mace:

 DEAN

 Lor:

 they just keep HURTING him

  Mace:

 they sure do

 Lor:

 i love the way this one ends so much

  Mace:

 YES

 double headbutt!

 Lor:

 yes!

 oh gross

 correct, Dean

  Mace:

 HA! YES

 Lor:

 what the HECK injury was there at the bank 67 days ago?

  Mace:

 snork

 Lor:

 VICTOR'S FACE

  Mace:

 the MUSIC

 Lor:

 he's impressed

 YES

  Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

 it's PERFECT

  Mace:

 IT IS

goosebumps

 Lor:

 YES

 Lor:

 ngggggg the two of them with the caps

  Mace:

 “we are so screwed"

 Lor:

 YES

  Mace:

 YES

they look very nice in those swat outfits, too

 Lor:

 YAAAAS

#watchingspnagain #watchingspnagain 2x12 #spn #supernatural #spn meta #spn spoilers #spn 2x12 #watchingspnagain music #watchingspnagain outsiders #watchingspnagain real peril

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Rewatching Born Under a Bad Sign

Welcome to “Annoyed Dean Giving Me Snickers for My Brain Is My Happy Place: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today: s2e14: Born Under a Bad Sign

 Dean is frantic because Sammy has been missing for days. When he finally finds him, Sam is bloody but unhurt and has no real memory of his missing days. The boys work together to reconstruct what Sam was up to, and all signs point to him having acted wildly out of character… and having murdered a hunter. Eventually Sam clocks Dean, knocking him out, then goes after Jo in a seriously creepy bit that is some props to JP. As everything comes to a head, we learn that Sam has been possessed by Meg this whole time, Meg!Sam wails on Dean a bit, Dean lands one solid punch on Sam once he’s back to being unpossessed, and Bobby warns the boys that if any hunters catch wind that Sam killed another hunter, they’ll have hunters on their tail who aren’t likely to ask questions first. Then he gives them anti-possession talismans, and the boys take off into the night.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

  Lor:

 aw Dean. all freckles and hunched in the rain and worried

  Mace:

 YES

Lor:

 omg Sammy's soft "hey, dean"

 "you bleeding?"

  Mace:

 ooof

 Lor:

 nrrrrrff I love it when he big brothers

  Mace:

 snork

 Lor:

 the DECORATIONS in these motel rooms

  Mace:

 Right?!

 Lor:

 Sammy's ribbed undershirt

  Mace:

 YES

 Dude, this is the third time we’ve watched this episode and I STILL don’t remember what the heck is happening

 Lor:

 haaaaahahahahaha

I DO but I also am sitting here going "wait? is it or is it the other...?"

 "I'm not thinking anything" oh, Dean, you LIAR

  Mace:

 Winchester Fine: Variations on a Theme

 Lor:

 YES

  Mace:

 HA! The dangers of a 15-season show

 Lor:

 YES

 "this guy? you're drinking malt liquor? THIS guy?"

  Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

 “po po will be here in five” I LOVE IT

 Lor:

 "am I speaking Urdu?"

this kid is taking some very cool classes at college

  Mace:

 the snark on this guy

 Lor:

 YES

  Mace:

 HAAAAHAHAHA

 god, I want Dean to get impatient and give me that look

 Lor:

 YAAAAAAS

and then bring me a candy bar

  Mace:

 YAAASS

 Lor:

 which I can magically eat bc Cas has fixed all the reasons I can't

  Mace:

 YESYESYES

Lor:

 Dean putting his fist to his mouth

  Mace:

 YES

 Dean, yes, get your fingerprints allll over that body

THINK, McFLY

 Lor:

 right?

  Mace:

 HOW am I still not remembering what’s happening here?! Stupid brain.

 Lor:

 lolol

pets brain. gives it a Snickers

  Mace:

 YES

 Dean’s deep in fix-it mode

 Lor:

 at least he's wiping things down this time

  Mace:

 HA!

 Lor:

 YAS HE IS

it’s very lovely on him

  Mace:

 and he’s impatient with and so worried about Sammy who’s just shutting down

 Lor:

 YES

  Mace:

 a rage-filled Sammy? yes, pls

 Lor:

 HA! yep

  (someone on Tumblr said Sam is all repressed anger and Dean is all repressed fear and I'm kind of obsessed with that read)

  Mace:

 oh that’s interesting!

 Lor:

 the look on Dean's face, like, um, whaaaat you doing, Sam?

  Mace:

 right? Sam saying “I don’t want to hurt you” and he’s doing it right there

 Lor:

 YEP

  Mace:

 I love you Sam, but don’t lay this on him

 Lor:

 "you know I've tried so hard to keep you safe" and you KNOW he's talking about since he was FOUR

  Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

 "I can't. I'd rather die" oooooooof

  Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

 "what?"

  Mace:

 “…what?”

oh Dean

 Lor:

 YES

  Mace:

 HAHAHA

 JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE

 Lor:

 YES

 I love that kind of wee con

  Mace:

 YES

 his arms in that shirt

 Lor:

 YAAAAS

 Dean is actually not more like John than Sam

  Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

 I don't care much for Jo but she does give good "boy, you best stop talking" face

  Mace:

 HA

 Lor:

 Jared is good at this. very creepy

  Mace:

 he IS

 Lor:

 how did Ellen know this? did John tell her?

  Mace:

 that’s a very good question

 Lor:

 bc John doesn't strike me as the type to be like "oh, hey, widow, oh, um, sorry, you're a widow now, I screwed up and got your husband killed"

he couldn't play it that way

  Mace:

 I agree

 Lor:

 "are you that scared of being alone?"

I mean. nail on the head a bit, there

  Mace:

 OOOOF off sides, Sammy

YES

 Lor:

 THAT was what I couldn't originally remember. I knew he was possessed during the lost time and that we'd see him possessed again, but I couldn't remember if he was the whole time Dean was trying to help him figure out what happened

  Mace:

 Aha

 Lor:

 mrf that SMIRK

  Mace:

 YES

 Ugh Jo go home

 Lor:

 LOL

  Mace:

 nobody wants you around

 Lor:

 i just wish she were a better character

  Mace:

 same

 mmmm the stumbling

  Mace:

 YAS

  you are NOT a part of anything, Jo

 Lor:

 how hard did Jensen say no to having his shirt off in this scene? bc why would you NOT take the shirt off to dress a wound there

  Mace:

 oh interesting thought

 Lor:

 BOBBYYYYYYY

  Mace:

 SMARTY BOBBY

 Lor:

 YAAAAS

  Mace:

 never shit a shitter

 Lor:

 lololol YES

  Mace:

 i hate the phrase “meat puppet”

 Lor:

 how do you feel about meat suit?

  Mace:

 not great. it’s the meat part i don’t like

 Lor:

 ah

  Mace:

 it’s just gross

 Lor:

 it is hard not to think of hamburger

  Mace:

 exactly

 Lor:

 gaaah the jerky movement

  Mace:

 RIGHT?!

 ope, look, the beating is showing up on Dean’s face

 Lor:

 oooof the being attacked by someone who looks like someone you love

 YES

  Mace:

 “you’re worthless” oh DANG

 Lor:

 YES

  Mace:

 that hits where it hurts

 Lor:

 YEP

and the deliberate pushing on the physical wound while delivering the emotional one

  Mace:

 YEP

 the lost look on Sam’s face

 Lor:

 YES

 poor Bobby just looking at the two of them like "did I sign up for this?"

 Mace:

 SNORK

 Lor:

 "no, sir"

  Mace:

YES

 Lor:

 SUCH a better "no sir" than whenever he calls John sir

  Mace:

 oh YES

 Lor:

 respect NOT tinged with fear

  Mace:

 so now they’re running from The Law and the hunter community

so very OUTSIDE

 Lor:

 yeeep

  Mace:

 he watched with his own two hands? that’s talent

 Lor:

 LOLOLOLOLOL

 "if it's the last thing I do, I'm gonna save you"

  Mace:

 YES

 “that’s pretty naughty"

  Mace:

 HAHAHA DEAN

 Lor:

 "it's pretty naughty" DEAN

#watchingspnagain #watchingspnagain 2x14 #spn #supernatural #meta #spn spoilers #spn 2x14 #watchingspnagain dean's responsible for sam #watchingspnagain demons #watchingspnagain doppelganger attack #watchingspnagain outsiders #watchingspnagain persistent injury #watchingspnagain acting

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Rewatching Everybody Loves a Clown

Welcome to “Something Winchester This Way Comes: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s2,e2: Everybody Loves a Clown

 The boys are hanging out at Bobby’s, reeling from John’s death. Dean buries himself in fixing Baby, while Sam tries to get him to open up about his grief. When they discover an old voicemail on John’s phone from someone called Ellen, they head off to find her and discover she runs a roadhouse with her daughter Jo where hunters tend to hang out. She puts them on the case of a carnival with a carnivorous clown, and off they go. Once they take care of the clown (poor Sammy), it’s back to Bobby’s, more emotional wrangling, and Dean ends up taking a crowbar to Baby (and so essentially also to himself and therefore to our hearts.)

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

[and we begin:]

  Lor:

 god the LOOK on Dean's face when John pulls away after telling him

 Mace:

 right?

 UGH

CREEPY CLOWN

Lor:

 yeeah, I hate the creepy clowns ones

except I love them because poor Sammy

 this kid looks so much like the child of one of my high school friends. it is uncanny

 Mace:

 ha! weird

 I kind of love the detail that the kiddo isn't actually scared of the clown at all

 Lor:

 yeah

that is a really neat touch

 oooof Sammy crying and Dean just staring blankly ahead

 Mace:

 Right?! Somebody hug them both so tight

 Lor:

 YES

 Mace:

 watch out, Dean, your pants are on fire

 Lor:

 SNORK

 OH JEEZ

it's the mechanic Dean bit

THUD

 Mace:

 LEGS POKING OUT THE BOTTOM OF THE CAR

the red rag in the back pocket

falls down ded

 Lor:

 the little ROLL

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

 also, not to be missed: Sam's polo over a tshirt

 Mace:

 YES

and the shaggy hair with the little curly flip

 Lor:

 YES

 the grease on DEAN

 Mace:

 YAS

 the little cut on the bridge of Sammy's nose

 Lor:

 YES

and his STUPID ADORABLE single gel bracelet

 Mace:

 YES

 and how that stupid tshirt hangs perfectly on Dean's stupid frame

 Lor:

 RIGHT?

 Bobby ABSOLUTELY gave them that van bc he was tired of Dean being a prickly mope

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA YAAASSS BOBBY

(And Dean would make a GREAT soccer mom. And he knows it.)

 Lor:

 (YEAH HE WOULD)

 (also the bit before about him and Sam hugging? YES YOU TWO SHOULD DO THAT.)

 "naw I’m just real happy to see you"

 Mace:

 (YES)

 "I need some help in here"

HAHAHAHA

 Lor:

 Dean being all smarty and then Jo just clocking him. I LOVE IT

 Mace:

 I wish I liked these women better than I do, but I just...don't

 Lor:

 agreed

I like Ellen okayish. sometimes. Jo is the best right there. all downhill from here

 Mace:

 Yep

but I can't put my finger on what's wrong with their characters? We get so few strong women in this show, but something's just missing with these two

 Lor:

 yeah

it's like they are too conscious of making them strong, maybe?

 Mace:

 I think that's getting to it

they're caricatures of strong women?

 something like that

 Lor:

 like neither of them hold a candle to Missouri or Jody or Donna or Charlie or Rowena or even Mildred

 Mace:

 yep

 Ash, on the other hand, is PERFECT

 Lor:

 YES

and whatever Dean is doing here interacting with him is...flirting? or something?

I’m not going to hang anything on Ash/Dean, but like, they have more chemistry than Dean and Jo

  “51 hours”

 Mace:

 well he's already made a "I know what it's like to have a penis poking me from behind" joke in this scene...

 Lor:

 LOLOLOLOL

and he stops him from leaving just to tell him he likes the hair? which is supposed to be a dig but... isn't?

(which is how Dean operates, it's not new, but)

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

 THAT HENLEY

 Mace:

 YAS

 no one actually wants in your pants, Jo, cool your jets

 Lor:

 SNORK

look, if Dean Winchester wants to get me pizza and play some Zepp for me, I’m good

 Mace:

 RIGHT?!

 Lor:

 "PLANES CRASH"

oh Dean

 Mace:

 "AND APPARENTLY CLOWNS KILL"

 Lor:

 yaaas

 Mace:

 Just having finished Something Wicked This Way Comes, this is extra-creepy

 Lor:

 oooo

I SAW you really liked that

 Mace:

 Bradbury can do no wrong

 Lor:

 weirdly, I snared myself a copy thinking I might read it right around Halloween and then didn't. I should read it, huh?

 Mace:

 you absolutely should

 Lor:

 cool 

adds it to a teetering pile next to the couch

 Mace:

 excellent!

 Lor:

CLOWNS ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS

 Mace:

 DO NOT tell your child that a group of people generally are your friends

 Lor:

 what the ACTUAL heckles, dude? I mean, even if you don't want your kid to be afraid of them, WHAT?

 Mace:

 JFC

 Lor:

 RIGHT?

 serves him right. I mean, clowns are your friends

 Mace:

 HAAAHAHAHA

YES

 HAHAHA poor Sam

 Lor:

 YES

 Mace:

 omg the curled lip look Sam gives Dean

 Lor:

 YES

 also, how much do I love Sam and Dean working at a carnival? the outsider stuff just INHERENT in it

 Mace:

 YAS

and they don't even belong THERE

 doubly outside

 Lor:

 RIGHT?

 omg Dean

 Sam's "not really"

 Mace:

 MR. COOPER

that's the name of one of the carnival characters in the Bradbury

 Lor:

 oh COOL

 omg Sammy's laugh

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

 "Nope"

 Mace:

 "NOPE" omg Dean

 I'm sorry, but a grown man calling his father "Daddy" is skeezy

 Lor:

 ah. I am inoculated against this I think. South

 Mace:

 "live regular" OMG

 Lor:

 this dude telling Sam and Dean to live regular

 YES

 Mace:

 that's so heartbreaking

 Lor:

 YEP

 Mace:

 the cautious hope in Dean's voice here

 Lor:

 yeah

 oh boys

both of them are just giant bundles of conflicted feelings about everything here

Does Dean want Sam to go back to school or stay? Is he mad about what Sam wants, whatever it is? What DOES Sam want?

 Mace:

 oh sure, just here. only here.

 Lor:

 lololol

yep. only here

the rest of the time they know precisely what they want

 Mace:

 YUP

 Lor:

 DEAN WINCHESTER

 Mace:

 I sort of think part of Dean's anger here is at himself for being so vulnerable at what Sam's decision will be

 Lor:

 YEP

 "skeleton, actually"

 "I was just sweepin"

 Mace:

 "we don't like outsiders"

 Lor:

 YES

 their little red windbreakers

 Mace:

 HOW do they look so good in those stupid windbreakers?

 Mace:

 OMG LOR

 Lor:

 MACE

I love it when we do that

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

 of COURSE they had some sort of falling out it was JOHN

 correct, Sammy

 Mace:

 YAS SAMMY

"this strong silent thing it's crap"

SING IT SAMMY

 Lor:

 but Mace, HE'S FINE

 Mace:

 oh DEAN NOPE BACK OFF

 Lor:

 yeeeah

 Mace:

 Now he's done it. Now Sammy's really mad

 Lor:

 they both need a minute

 OMG THE CHEWING ON HIS FINGERS

 Mace:

 Dean needs a minute in the time-out corner

 Lor:

 I'll uh tell him

 Mace:

 oh sure

 Sam's little smile

THUD

 Lor:

 YES

 and the two of them walking along an empty road carrying all their stuff

I love it

 Mace:

 YES

 UGH THE WAY HIS FACE CHANGES

 Lor:

 RIGHT?

so creepy

 it's a maze, just like their feeeelings

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHAHA OMG

 dude, Sammy, they're steaming so they're probably HOT

 Lor:

 LOLOL

 Mace:

 SMARTY DEAN

 Lor:

 YAS

 "I hate funhouses" CORRECT

 Mace:

 yup

 Lor:

 no he wouldn't Ellen and you know it

 Mace:

 yeah

 "Clowns?! What the..."

HAHAHA

 Lor:

 so I DO believe that Dean is afraid of Ellen, but also. that is not why, Dean. you're just not in the mood. that's okay, baby

 Lor:

 lololol

 Mace:

 agreed. and Jo isn't really his type

 Lor:

 nope

 "it's a school in Boston"

 Mace:

 YAS ASH

 Lor:

 YES

 Lor:

 and Dean's little grin. you're right, Dean, Ash is more interesting than Jo

 Mace:

 YUP

 Lor:

 oh GAWD it's the kneeling and the biceps

 Mace:

 aaand we're back with the greasy tshirt THUD

 YAS

 Lor:

 YAAAS

 Mace:

 oh Sammy

OH SAMMY

 Lor:

 yeah

 Mace:

 SOMEBODY HOLD HIM

 Lor:

 "and I'm not all right. not at all. but neither are you"

 YES

 Mace:

 YOU TELL HIM SAM

 Lor:

 someone just WRAP THEM UP

 Mace:

 and here it comes

 Lor:

 oh DEAN

 Mace:

 Baby's condition = Dean's condition

Always

 Lor:

 this kills me, him wailing on Baby

 Lor:

 YEP

and it's like he's hammering on himself

 Mace:

 yep

 Lor:

 the lip tremble

jeeebus

 Mace:

 yep

  he needs an angel in a trenchcoat to come and fix him up

 Lor:

 HE DOES

 [after the episode ended:]

 Lor:

 is this one of the longest times we see them with persistent visible injuries?

  Mace:

 i suspect so, yes

 Lor:

 their faces are both very clearly banged up and it lasts a long time

 Mace:

 yes!

 Lor:

 I just love that detail so much, where they only stay injured if it matters

 Mace:

 YES

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Rewatching Bloodlust

Welcome to “That’s Just Torture, Man: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s2e3: Bloodlust.

 Sam and Dean meet another hunter, Gordon, who's on the trail of a vampire nest. He and Dean seem to get along pretty well right from the start, but Sam is sus, calls Ellen, and finds out that Gordon is bad news and then also finds out that the vampires are - wait for it - good. Dean resists this information HARD, but corrects his course when Sam presents him with evidence in the form of Gordon torturing the good vampire leader. Dean takes a clever kind of revenge on Gordon, which will most certainly never come back to bite him or Sammy in the ass.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

  Mace:

 that whole dropping the coffee thing. I don't think that's how I would react. I'm almost positive that, like an idiot, I'd spend 5 minutes looking for a place to set it down first and THEN freak out

 Lor:

RIGHT?

my brain would absolutely just go HAYWIRE trying to do all the things in the order and having no idea what the order was

 Mace:

 YEP

Lor:

Baby's fixed!

 Mace:

 ACDC. Iron Man. I cannot.

 Lor:

lol

 Mace:

 yas

 Lor:

OMG his smile

 Mace:

 Dean would have SUCH an immediate love/hate crush on Tony Stark

 Lor:

lolol

 Mace:

 and Tony would see the brilliance in Dean immediately

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 omg mustache

 Lor:

lololol

BABY SUITS

 Mace:

 YES

oh RIGHT AMBER BENSON

  Lor:

YAAS

lol this sheriff

"you're not kidding"

 Mace:

 I'm just waiting for him to say "DIABEETUS"

 Lor:

LOLOLOLOLOL

"cause that's what gravity does. but hey. it could be Satan"

DEAN

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

 Lor:

"I'm new"

nice save, Dean

 Mace:

 Ha! Uh, sure.

 Lor:

Lol

  Mace:

 Sam looks pretty close to FINE in that checked shirt

  Lor:

THOSE TIES

where did they get those?

 Mace:

 "put the lotion in the basket" OMG DEAN

 Lor:

lololol

 Mace:

 YES to the ties

 Lor:

"Sam, that's a fang" pets them

BABIES

 Mace:

 I LOVE that this cold open is very much NOT what you at first assume

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 Very Buffy to contradict expectations like that

 Lor:

ooo, yeah

 Mace:

in fact, it mirrors the very first cold open of Buffy really well

 Lor:

is that Benny?

  Mace:

that IS Benny!!!

 lookit those rolled-up sleeves

 Lor:

YAAAS

 Mace:

Ugh, Gordon

 we hates him

 Lor:

yep. SO toxic

 Gordon can avoid being seen if he wishes, but to disappear entirely....

  Mace:

 HAHAHA OMG

 Lor:

Sterling K. Brown, though, so awesome

 Mace:

It took me a minute to place the reference

 Lor:

LOL. you gotta watch TV aaaall day to keep up with me

 Mace:

 YES he's amazing

 Lor:

I LOVE that Sam and Dean ambush him like that

 Gordon didn't fall out with John because he only met him once

 Mace:

 snork! that's correct

 Lor:

oooof, they aren't even part of the HUNTING COMMUNITY

 Mace:

 YUP

 Lor:

ooo, Dean picked up his vocab? Gordon said the knife was making him itch and then Dean said he was itching for a hunt. not uncommon usage or anything, but. (Dean and his VERY WEIRD delightful idiolect where he speaks the way he hears things said (especially from pop culture) is SO COOL to me)

 Mace:

Interesting!

 Oh Dean, honey

  also, ew

 Lor:

ooooof

 mmm, ew, yes, but also? I wouldn't say no to helping him clean his face up

 Mace:

 ooof, Sam's WTF?! look at Dean

 Lor:

YEP

 Mace:

HAHAHA okay that's across a line for me so you go on ahead

 Lor:

look, I wring out a mean warm washcloth

 Mace:

 ha!

 HE'S THE ONLY ONE WHO GETS TO CALL ME THAT

 Lor:

"he's the only one who gets to call me that"

 Mace:

 YASSSSS

  Lor:

but I never had a pimple because my skin is amazing

 Mace:

 SNORK!

 Lor:

interesting that Dean tells that story which is NOT how he got into hunting. it's not his hunter origin story

 Mace:

this whole bragging-about-hunts scene is ick and ugh

 well of course not, Dean wouldn't open up like that

 Lor:

NOPE

 he's kicked back shooting the shit at a dive bar with a fellow hunter and he's still very very performing

 Mace:

 Ha! As if this kind of macho bullshit isn't always already performance

 Lor:

oh Dean. you do NOT have to keep your game face on with Sammy. TALK TO HIM

 YEP

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

Dean, Gordon just gave you the emperor's "use your hate" speech. RUN AWAY

 Mace:

HAHAHA

 oh sure black and white is such a healthy mentality

 Lor:

yeeeeah

 my GOD look how small the soda can is in his haaaaaand

 Mace:

HAHAH YAS

 Mace:

 TARA

 Lor:

oh I FORGOT he played a vampire here too

 Lor:

YAAAAAS

 Mace:

 she looks amazing with dark hair

 Lor:

she DOES

"yeah, Eli, that's enough" Saaaammy

 Mace:

HAHAHA so sassy

 listen to Sam, Dean, stop being a putz

 DEAN. Sammy picked you over John just, like, TWO episodes ago and now you're choosing Gordon over Sam?! DANG IT

 Lor:

oh boys

RIGHT?

 Mace:

 DON'T YOU PUNCH MY SWEET SAMMY

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Mace:

 I get so irritated with Dean in this ep

 Lor:

Dean, baby, you are going to beat yourself up over that, you putz

 Mace:

 AS WELL HE SHOULD

 Lor:

yeah

 I do love that in the midst of all his putzery, he's still proud of Sam

 Mace:

 Your "Dean can do no wrong" is showing, Lor

 Lor:

whistles

he is baby and has never hurt a living thing

 Mace:

 Cripes

 Lor:

lolololololol

 Mace:

 they're both beautiful idiots and you know it

 Lor:

LOL

I do

 ug, Gordon

this is just torture, man

 Mace:

YUP

 we won't discuss the uncomfortable parallels with Dean and Meg, then...

 Lor:

....

 Mace:

 Sammy's Jiminy Cricket Act Is What Keeps Dean from Turning into Gordon welcome to my TED talk

 Lor:

ooo, I would listen to that TED talk, actually

 Mace:

there are several times in the course of the show in which Dean pulls this black and white business and Sam talks him down

 (and I think the tables turn once or twice, though, too, but I'm ignoring that for now)

 Lor:

yeah

 i like the idea that Sam and Dean keep each other from becoming the worst versions of themselves. woulda been really cool if they could have ended the show with them each encouraging the other to become the best version of themselves....

 Mace:

 YEP

 Lor:

"did I miss anything?"

 haaaaahahaha

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

Dean, you little shit

 Mace:

YES

 AHAHA Sam's reaction to Dean punching him

 Lor:

so I will admit that that was... not at all nice. but I'm okay with it

 YES

 Mace:

 "...NO"

 Lor:

oh Dean. he hit Sam and he can't handle it unless Sam hits him back

 Mace:

 and that little smile

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 OVER THE ROOF CHAT

 Lor:

"what if we killed things that didn't deserve killing"

 YAAAAS

 Mace:

oh look, Dean's having a little insight on John's assholeyness

  ADORABLE

 Lor:

YEP

 OMG THAT SHOT of Dean looking back over his shoulder and THE LIGHT

 Mace:

 yep

I will give Dean this: he recognizes that Sam is what's keeping him from becoming Gordon - or worse, John

 and THANKS him for it

  well done, tiger

  Lor:

YES

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Rewatching Bugs

Welcome to “Bugs Are Gross But Not 327-Level Gross: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s1e8: Bugs.

 People are dying weird and awful in a new fancy-pants development in Oklahoma. Turns out it’s the bugs! Because of an old Indian curse! As ya do! The boys get mistaken for a couple, Sam befriends the teenaged son of the fancy-pants realtor and bonds with him over the boy’s trouble with his dad, and our boys butt heads about their dad and their differing understandings of how they were raised. Sam and Dean keep the family from getting et alive by the bugs, and the development gets abandoned. A win?

[The Native American tribe mentioned here is the Euchee, who were originally from eastern Tennessee and southwestern Virginia and migrated to other parts of the south before they were forcibly relocated by the US government to present-day Oklahoma. They currently have a headquarters in Sapulpa, Oklahoma. There’s a community effort there to keep their language alive that you can learn about here.]

Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here.  Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

 Mace:

 oh the bugs one. sigh

 Lor:

 lol YEP

third worst episode? fourth?

Mace:

 I'd say third?

 Lor:

 the finale, the stupid found footage/Blair Witch thing....

 Mace:

 I mean, we all know which is the worst, and then there's that stupid college kids being artsy with the amateur camera one

 HAHAHAHAHA

 Lor:

 LOL YEP

oh, the other backdoor pilot that isn't the Wayward Sisters one? ...Bloodlines?

 Mace:

 which one's that?

also EWEWEW to the bugs

 Lor:

 yeeeeah

the bugs don't bother me too much as long as I don't THINK ABOUT THEM

 awww, Dean "and the pay is crap"

 Mace:

 aw, sweet Sam being all moral

 "how we were raised is jacked"

Aaaand that's the show

 Lor:

 "yeah, says you"

"you watch Oprah"

I love them

 Bloodlines was supposed to be about hunters and monsters in Chicago

 Mace:

 oh RIGHT

yeah that one is...not great

 Lor:

 yeah

 Mace:

 this guy looks really familiar

 Lor:

 i was JUST gonna say that

 Mace:

 well sure

 Lor:

 omg mad cow

 Mace:

 HA

 Lor:

 rewatching this show is like a little catalogue of what americans were freaking out about when

 Mace:

 it sure is

and a visual history of cell phones

 Lor:

 haaaahahahahaha YES

 "I'll go if you're scared. Ya scared?" DEAN

 Mace:

 omg BOYS

 Lor:

 "don't drop me"

 yeah THIS is why I'd rewatch this before any of those other eps (except the finale. no one should ever watch that a second time)

 pats Sammy don't food shame him, honey

 Mace:

 are we keeping track of which episodes have Sam as the skeptic and which Dean? Because it feels like they're trading back and forth a lot

 Lor:

 we... aren't? but yes I'd agree

 Mace:

 "I'd take our family over normal any day"

OOOOOUTSIIIIDEEEERSSS

 Lor:

 and then there's THIS flipflop. who wants a "normal life"

 YES

 Mace:

 ope, there's the mistaken gaydentity again

 Lor:

 is that the first "Sam and Dean are mistaken as couple" joke?

 Mace:

 HA!

 Lor:

 lolol

 Mace:

 It could be the first - I can't remember

 Lor:

 yeah

 Mace:

 omg Dean's jump at the woman's "HI!"

 Lor:

 YES

 OMG DEAN

 Mace:

 "okay honey?"

 Lor:

 the honey and the butt slap

 Mace:

 YES

(Cas just fainted in heaven)

 Lor:

 LOLOLOLOLOLOL poor Cas

 it amuses me that they're all "oh, nice gay couple" and not "are you guys a little young to be buying a house in a schmancy development?"

 Mace:

 snork! they don't care if they can afford it as long as the bank says they can

 Lor:

 HA! Yep

Mace:

 ope, the boys arguing about John…

 Lor:

 omg, Dean, baby, you know John treated you JUST like that

 Mace:

 YEP

talk about emotional damage - he clings to the idea that John was THE BEST DAD so hard

 Lor:

 right?

 Mace:

 "I wanna try the steam shower"

omg DEAN

 Lor:

 he wants to try the steam shower.

our little hedonist

 Mace:

 Cas just fainted again

 Lor:

 LOLOLOLOLOLOL

 Mace:

 UGHUGHUGH

 Lor:

 there is NO WAY she doesn't jump up and yell. NO HUMAN does not jump up and yell in that situation

 Mace:

RIGHT!?

 I love the difference in how SPN and Buffy approaches Native American vengeance: bugs vs. venereal disease

 Lor:

 yeah

 HE HAS A TOWEL ON HIS HEAD

 Mace:

 yep

 Lor:

 there is no way they aren't feminizing him on purpose

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

 apparently this is the only time the boys ever use umbrellas on the show

 Mace:

 HAHAHA I was just thinking that

 Lor:

 LOL

 oo, neat shot of them going from the fence to the trellis

 Mace:

 yeah

 omg those were clearly fake spiders

 Lor:

 RIGHT?

 Mace:

 this episode is hilarious

the other bad ones are just...bad? but I actually love this one for its badness

 Lor:

 YES

right? this one is fun to watch despite being nonsense

 the DOOR CREAK

 Mace:

 this kid is also really familiar

 Lor:

is this kid Alfie?

the angel?

 Mace:

 OOOH maybe that's it

 [it is, in fact, the same actor who plays Alfie/Samandriel in S8]

"kid should stick with his family" BACK OFF DEAN

 Lor:

 ooooh, Dean

letting your own hurt get in the way, Dean, honey

 Mace:

 ugh, god, the sound of the bugs

 Lor:

a nice, pleasant, summer evening

 Mace:

 ha

 EW DEAN NO don't stick your foot right in a worm pit!

AND NOW YOUR HAND GROSS

 Lor:

 RIGHT?

I like it many seasons down the line when he will openly moan about having to do shit like that

 Mace:

 yeah

 being able to find legit parking in the middle of a college campus: one of the most unbelievable things in this show

 Lor:

 HAAAAHAHAHA and a spot big enough to park Baby

 Mace:

 "which in our wacked-out family made me the freak"

OUTSIDERS

 Lor:

 "which in our whacked-out family made me the freak"

 YEP

 Mace:

 and Sam being doubly liminal

 Lor:

 YES

 "Dad was never disappointed in you, never" interesting

is that Dean feelings-hiding glasses or real, you think?

 Mace:

 oh those are rosy glasses, for certain

 Lor:

i wonder if he's so sure John wasn't disappointed in Sam bc he thinks John was only disappointed in HIM

 Mace:

 it's hard to suss out, really, because Dean's view of it is so skewed

 Lor:

 yeah

 Mace:

 but in reality, of course he was disappointed in Sam because Sam didn't do just what John wanted him to do

 Lor:

 YEP

and especially since at this point we don't know anything about John except what they've told us and we haven't seen him yet

 Mace:

 Ah, the token pan flute thing for NA scenes

 Lor:

 yeeeeeeah

I don't love the way they handle the NA stuff in this episode, but at least SnD have the grace to look uncomfortable

 Mace:

 Can you imagine Dean trying to participate in that Thanksgiving conversation between Buffy and Willow? "...I fought bugs with bug spray and a lighter..."

Lor:

 SNORK

 Mace:

 I predict there would be eye rolling in his direction

 Lor:

 yep

 "you don't break the curse, you get out of its way"

 ug, carapace clacking

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

 poor Dean. it was a nice try

 Mace:

 he gets much better at the ad lib as they go along

 Lor:

 yeah

 "make him listen. what are you thinking?"

 Mace:

 "make him listen. what are you thinking?" Oh, so that's not evidence that John was an ass?

 Lor:

 aaaand there's the evidence Dean knows you can't reason with this kind of dad

 OMG US

 Mace:

 YES

 yeah, dude, listen to Sammy - can't you see his Earnest Face?

 Lor:

 right?

 Mace:

 911? really guy?

 Lor:

 what's 911 gonna do?

"well, sure, ma'am, we'll send out our magical emergency bug vehicle right away"

 Mace:

 ha!

 ugh this is so gross

Lor:

 right?

as dumb as the episode is, it is effectively creepy

like, the back of my neck is tingly at the BUG SOUNDS

 Mace:

 I don’t think it quite makes it to creepy. just ew

yeah for me that’s skeeze not built-up creep

 Lor:

 mmm, Sam's holey jeans

 Mace:

 YES

 omg Sammy's SMILE

ded

 Lor:

 YES

and the stretched out arms

 Mace:

 YES

 SAMMY. John needs to apologize TO YOU, honey

Lor:

 RIGHT?

he may have been doing the best he could, but THAT DOES NOT EXCUSE THE AWFULNESS, boys

(I do like how their feelings about him are kind of hard to completely pin down. it's nice that it's complicated)

 Mace:

agreed

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Rewatching Route 666

Welcome to “Monster Chassis and Past Cassies: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s1e13: Route 666.

 Stephen King's Christine, but make it Sam and Dean. The spirit of a racist a-hole is possessing his old monster truck and killing the people who had a hand in killing him years ago. One of the victims is the dad of one of Dean's old girlfriends, who calls him for help. Dean struggles with his leftover feelings for Cassie (No, seriously, her name is Cassie. I mean.) while Sammy throws all sorts of silent shade Deanward for it. The dramatic conclusion involves Sam putting Baby in potential danger and Dean getting fair-to-middling pissed about it.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here.  Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

  [and we begin:]

  Lor:

 oooo, no Jensen saying "previously on Supernatural"

 this is one of my favorite episodes that isn't very good bounces

 Mace:

 interesting! (I love that you notice always and I never think to pay attention)

 Lor:

(lol. if it were Jared, you'd pay attention, admit it)

Mace:

 (probably not, actually. I'm not very observant)

 and this is one of the creepiest for me because when I was a kiddo I was terrified that trucks and semis would come to life and chase me down

 Lor:

RIGHT?

like, a lot of fans seem to think this one is just cheesy but it LEGIT scared the pants offa me the first time

and honestly, it still kinda does. the REVVING?!

 Mace:

 exactly

man, the lot of fans must be jaded in some kind of way that we just aren't

poor dears

bless their hearts

 Lor:

that thing weighs TONS and you can't even punch it on its snoot!

 Mace:

 are you...equating a truck to a shark?

 Lor:

maybe?

at least I didn't suggest it was pastry...

 awww, Dean, come on, go to Pennsylvania

 "friend that's not new"

 Mace:

 oh right! This one is Dean Had a Girlfriend

  Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 and I will NEVER get over that her name is CASsie

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 ATHENS OHIO

 Mace:

 WOOT

 Lor:

(it is a CRIME that they never actually set an episdoe there)

 Mace:

 yeah

 "this chick in Ohio" now hold on a minute, Sammy

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 THE FIRST RULE OF WINCHESTER CLUB IS THAT YOU DON’T TALK ABOUT WINCHESTER CLUB

  Mace:

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

I do kind of enjoy his indignation, though

 Mace:

 ah, we're still in Girls Wearing Too-Small Blazers times

 Lor:

GOSH she's pretty

 Mace:

 SHE IS

 Lor:

"hey, Cassie" HIS FACE

 Mace:

 yep

 Lor:

omg Sammy's little smirk

 Mace:

 Sammy's little SMILE

 Lor:

YAAAS

 Lor:

okay, painfully 2005 or not, her outfit looks GOOD ON HER

 Mace:

 she'd look amazing in anything, to be fair

 Lor:

well. yeah

 Dean's little "hmmph”

 Mace:

 she looks familiar so I just looked her up and she's in a last-season ep of Buffy

because of course she is

 Lor:

oooooo

 Mace:

 UGH CREEPY

THE REVVING

 Lor:

okay, seriously it FREAKS ME OUT

 Mace:

 YES

it's honestly related to the attraction of helmeted dudes like The Stig or the Mandalorian, except in this case instead of super-hot it's super-terrifying

 Lor:

oooo, interesting

 the way Dean's eyes track to this dude when she brings up racism

 Mace:

 YES

 SUITS

DED

 Lor:

YES they are too adorable in those suits

 YOU GUYS NEVER REALLY LOOK AT EACH OTHER AT THE SAME TIME

 Mace:

 well because they can't actually communicate well

  Lor:

SNORK

I just enjoy the way this is gonna repeat again with Cas

 Mace:

 YEP

 omg Dean needs so much help with that tie

  Lor:

lolol

I VOLUNTEER

 Mace:

 somehow I knew you would

 Lor:

I can't IMAGINE how you would figure that

 Mace:

 I know, right? Just a sixth sense I have

 Lor:

LOL

 Mace:

 it's impressive, really

 Lor:

SNORK it is. good job. well done, you

 the way these two dudes look at each other when he says "a time when this town wasn't too friendly to all its citizens"

  Mace:

 Ha! yeah, it's like the writers are winkwink nudgenudging us: Hey, look at us dealing wiTH RACE

 Lor:

HA!

yeah

 Mace:

 SAMMY

 DEAN: "get in the car"

 Lor:

"oh wow. she dumped you"

 YES

 Mace:

 Sammy is floored and it's hilarious

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

wraps Dean in a blanket

 Mace:

 wow that shirt on her...I may be slightly ded

 Lor:

RIGHT?

the way it is EXACTLY the right amount of too small

 Mace:

 YES

  Lor:

the LEANING

 Mace:

 ooof the framing of that shot with the two of them leaning on opposite sides of the doorway

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 "we'll keep it strictly business" YEAH RIGHT, DEAN

 Lor:

oh Dean, you are RADIATING pain, you little jerk. just TALK TO HER

 Mace:

 ope, there it is. JOHN.

 Lor:

YEP

 Mace:

 fuck you, John

 Lor:

"I didn't mean to hurt you." "well, you did"

 Mace:

 okay so this is the first actual realistic scene between Dean and any female because it actually ends with the woman saying "fuck it" and attack-kissing him

 Lor:

haahahahaha YES

 Lor:

AND she throws him on the bed and climbs on. GET IT, CASSIE

 Mace:

 everyone else shows extremely unrealistic self-control around that boy

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

SNORK

 Mace:

 oh, right, there's a haunted demon truck in this episode

 Lor:

LOLOLOLOLOL

 Lor:

yeah, apparently

 Lor:

the NECKLACE WITH NO SHIRT

 Mace:

 YES

 "my dad's work" UGH, DEAN, JUST STOP

  (wow, the dialogue here is actually pretty awful. I mean, I don't really care, but still, it's not quality)

 Lor:

Yeah

 and it's a shame because this is some of the most vulnerable Dean ever is

  Mace:

 HAHAHA SAMMY

  Lor:

YES SAM is unsifferable about it I LOVE IT

 Mace:

 yeah

 oh, yes, I love it when Sammy gets unsifferable

 so hot, that unsifferableness

 Lor:

LOOK. it's not my fault I'm distracted by gestures at TV and can't type good

 Mace:

 snork

 Lor:

lookit Sammy's really awesome notebook

 Mace:

 wow. that's some smooth misdirection there, Lor

 Lor:

LOLOLOLOL

 Mace:

 UGH

CREEEEEPY

 Lor:

IT MAKES MY SKIN CRAWL

 Mace:

 RIGHT?!

HOW could you think this wasn't scary?!

 Lor:

NO IDEA

 that's it, cassie, shut those blinds. that'll help

  Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

 Sammy making tea. Now THAT. IS. HOT.

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 Excuse me while I go to my happy place

 Lor:

lol

 I also love that Dean and Cassie have sex one time and suddenly they are attached at the hip whenever they're in the same space. it's adorable

 Mace:

 YES

 I was just thinking that the people-staging in this ep is good - Sammy is always off to the side, divided from Dean and Cassie

 Lor:

YEP

 Mace:

 making Dean/Cassie a definite couple

 Lor:

YEP

and it is EXACTLY how they stage SO MUCH of Dean and Cas and Sam later

 Mace:

 YEP

  Sammy's HEY GUYS CHECK THIS OUT horrible timing

 Lor:

LOL

 oh Dean

 what this actress does with her hands during this bit is a wondeful, effective bit of business

  Mace:

 OMG I was just about to say that I want to tie her hands behind her back because her fluttering is driving me BANANAS

 Lor:

HAAAAHAHAHAHA

 Mace:

 it feels like over-acting to me. the idea is good but I think she overdoes it

 Lor:

huh. interesting. it feels so real to me

 Mace:

 LADY PUT YOUR HANDS DOWN

 Lor:

LOLOLOLOLOL pats you

 Mace:

 "occasionally I miss boring"

 Oh Sammy, you poor double-outsider, I love you

 Lor:

YES

 "I miss conversations that didn't start with 'this killer truck'"

  Mace:

 "don't go getting all authoritative on me" WHAT, Girl you don't know what's good

 Lor:

"don't leave the house please?" DEAN

  Mace:

Dean, pls do get all authoritative with me any damn time you like

 Lor:

maybe she'd rather go all authoritative on him

I mean, YES, co-sign, but

 Mace:

 Ha! Yes, she did make that clear when she threw him on the bed

 Lor:

see?

 Mace:

 and we both know Dean wouldn't object

 Lor:

he would NOT

 Mace:

 how has there not been a Stephen King reference yet?

 Lor:

right?

 Mace:

 (or maybe there has and I've missed it)

 Lor:

maybe. I also have not noticed it if it's been there

 Mace:

 I'm nervous for Baby here

 Lor:

RIGHT?

you DID NOT just tap Baby's bumper

now it is on

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

did that look like there was a clutch? I swear that looks like there was a clutch, which there should not be

  Mace:

 sorry i didn't notice a clutch

 Lor:

s'okay

I just swear he's using both feet to stop, and I don't know why

  Mace:

 the truck just sitting there is way creepier even than when it's running someone down

  Lor:

YES

 "maybe? MAYBE?"

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

"I'm gonna kill him"

 Mace:

 SAMMY HAHAHA

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

oooof, Dean

 Mace:

 yeah

 gosh, I like her

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Lor:

I wish they had brought her back instead of Lisa

 THE WAY DEAN DOES NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION

and hides his eyes. and isn't driving

 Mace:

 FUCK YOU 327

 Lor:

RIGHT?!!!!

  [after the episode ended:]

Lor:

...and I don't have anything against Lisa, honestly, but it would have made so much more SENSE

 Mace:

 hm, maybe? But I do like that Lisa and the kiddo represent a more suburban standard Normal Life idea than Cassie would, especially since Cassie already knows his secret and seems like she would fit right into the monster-fighting life pretty easily if she so chose

you need that bigger gap between Dean's monster-hunting life and Lisa's Normal Life to get the tension

 Lor:

ooo, fair. I meant it would make more sense from the woman's perspective though. like, WHY does Lisa just let this former one-night stand move in with her and her kid for a year? there would be so much more of a foundation for Cassie

 Mace:

 Look, clearly Lisa doesn't make great life choices

and, well, LOOKIT HIM.

   Lor:

HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 Mace:

 I wouldn't exactly turn him away from the door...

  Lor:

you are telling me that you would let a PTSD-ridden alcoholic monster-hunting disaster move in with you and [your son]?

x

Mace:

if he looked like Dean?

and if he gave me The Wink?

 Lor:

lol

 you know what, I take it back... I think this episode is pretty good actually. its handling of racism is maybe a little hamfisted but not... any more than any other episode? so, like, that IS a problem, but

  Mace:

I agree. Overall it is a solid episode, despite that hamfistyness and despite the awkward writing at times. Very creepy Monster-of-the-Week, and good interactions between Dean and Sam

 Lor:

yep

and the stuff with Cassie is important Dean-development that we haven’t really had yet. he's a big softie under there

 Mace:

and despite the awkward way the rest of the ep talks about race, Cassie is a strong black woman who DOESN'T DIE

 Lor:

YES

and she has her OWN LIFE and does not give it up for the white boy at the center of the story

 Mace:

 EXACTLY YES

 you know, I could go for a Cassie spin-off, to be honest

 Lor:

YAS

 Mace:

 she doesn't even have to start fighting monsters. weird shit could happen sort of on the edges and she'd be all NBD I'm living my best life over here

 Lor:

YES

and there's this like one episode SEVERAL seasons in where Dean and Cas and Sam show up for like ONE scene but in that ONE scene, she clocks Dean and Cas and the scene is 90% nothing but Cassie making knowing comments at them with her whole chest

and she takes Cas aside and whispers to him about the attacking and throwing on the bed

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

 OH GOD WAIT: the whole show is all the side characters somehow trickling in and out of her life, no mention that they've met Sam and Dean but their interactions are always flavored by their past experiences with the boys

 Lor:

YESYESYES

omg WOULD WATCH SO HARD

 Mace:

 RIGHT?!?!

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Rewatching The Benders

Welcome to “Daaang and Yikes: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s1e15: The Benders

  The boys investigate an area where a lot of people tend to disappear. They're not convinced it's their kind of job, but then Sam gets...disappeared. Dean teams up with a local deputy to look for him, but his cover is blown (he's a wanted man who's supposed to be dead, if you'll remember) and she threatens to turn him in once they find his missing 'cousin.' The horrible part of all this is that it's not monsters. It's people. People hunting other people. Which is more monstrous than most every other episode in this show. shudders Anyway. Dean goes very Big-Brother Don't-Touch-My-Sammy on their disgusting redneck backwoods butts and all is well in the end. But beware - this one is pretty dark, folks.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here.  Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

 Lor:

Jensen previously again. I wonder how they decided which eps to put it on and which to not?

 Mace:

Yeah, weird

 Mace:

 oh god is this the in-bred human hunters one?

 Lor:

yep

 Mace:

 shit

Lor:

you okay with that today?

 Mace:

yeah. I mean, I'm not really okay with it at any time - I hate this one (meaning I don't hate it but I hate it because it's so well done and so awful)

 Lor:

Okay. and yeah, it's so awful

   Mace:

 OMG SHERIFF OUTFITS

 Lor:

OMG THOSE OUTFITS

  Mace:

 omg Sammy's throat-clearing

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

and Dean with the kid

  Mace:

 (also? ALL the Godzilla movies are great. All. Of. Them.)

  Lor:

(I have never seen one?)

 Mace:

 (They may not be your thing? But I LOVE 'em)

 Lor:

MaYBE thIS ISnT oUr kInD OF giG

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 RUN, BOYS, JUST RUUUUN

 Lor:

lol

 Lor:

mmm, Dean playing darts

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

do not ever meet each other outside

did your wretched father teach you nothing?

 Mace:

 RIGHT?! Come on, big brother, don't let him go out there alone

 Lor:

also, Sammy? not being the smartie here we all know you to be

 Mace:

honestly, John is probably the reason Dean will beat himself up about this later

 Mace:

 Exactly. Come on. Sammy

 Lor:

UG

yep

 Mace:

 Aw, poor Dean is panicked

 Lor:

he IS, poor baby

of course, he SHOULD BE

 Mace:

 well yeah

 Lor:

"like the rifle"

 Mace:

 "two beers and he's doing karaoke" I LOVE that, both that Dean says it in that tone and that it's true

 Lor:

and omg giving out real names

 Mace:

RIGHT

 Mace:

 and the results of the search

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

"handsome, though"

DEAN

 Lor:

"handsome though"

YAAAAS

I love this sheriff

 Mace:

yeah she's pretty great

his impatient eye roll when she has her back turned

 Lor:

yeah

 Mace:

 80% sad 20% annoyed

 Lor:

yep

 Mace:

 um, is that cage made of rebar?

 Lor:

OMG

not made of, but there's some in there, i think?

 Mace:

yeah

one side at least

smarty Dean and the engine noise

 Lor:

YES

I was just gonna say that

 Mace:

 Ha!

 Lor:

I love how he puts things together

 Mace:

YES

well, and I love that he knows motors, so this one seems natural for him

 Lor:

ooo YES

poor Sam. gotta be trapped with a sarcastic one

  Mace:

Ha! yeah, Mr. Optimistic Pants

 Mace:

Ooof, Sammy still thinks it's monsters

god, I hate this

 Lor:

RIGHT?

it really is awful

 Mace:

 it's awful because it's real

 Lor:

YEP

 Mace:

 more real than the monsters, which are safe to watch and get a little fun-spooked by while ogling the boys

 Lor:

yeah

and I can't watch it without thinking about “The Most Dangerous Game,” what we read freshman year, and I can't think about THAT without thinking about ---- just blurting out in the middle of a discussion "wait? are they still naked?"

 Mace:

Oh! Ha! [My son] told me they're reading that this year and asked if I'd ever read it. HAHAHAHA

 Lor:

lolol

 Mace:

 Men as the Real Monsters is SUCH a vibe in this show

 Lor:

YES

and it's like how the police episodes are so much more scary for us worrying about hte boys

it's real

  Mace:

 YES

and shouldn't be part of their outsider world

 Lor:

yep

 Mace:

 OOOF and this ep combines both of those things with her finding out who Dean is

 Lor:

yeah

the way he's telling the truth to manipulate her but it IS the truth

 Mace:

 well, now, to be fair, Dean, he was pulled from the fire by Dad and you were ordered to save him

 Lor:

yeah

 Mace:

 DON'T CALL HIM SAMMY

 Lor:

dude. you do not get to call him Sammy

 Lor:

lolololol

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

"oh thank god, a bracket"

 Mace:

 snork!

 Lor:

he's annoying but he IS funny

 Mace:

he is

oh Sammy being smart

 Lor:

yep

the instincts on that boy

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

Jenkins, ya don't have the sense god gave ya

 Mace:

 SNORK!

 Lor:

this is why you should pay attention in English class

you'd know not to do this kind of thing

 Mace:

yeah

UGH

 Lor:

yeeeeah, I am mostly not looking at it

"and a felon, I think"

 Mace:

 her eyes are amazing

 Lor:

they ARE

oh Dean come on

 Mace:

 oooh, Dean, BAMBOOZLED

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Lor:

"i gotta start carrying paperclips"

 Mace:

snork!

 Mace:

UGH everything is so grey and rainy and dirty

it's perfect and thanks I HATE IT

 Lor:

RIGHT?

like you 100% believe that this family might have lived down some dirt road a few miles from you when you were kid

 Mace:

 I'm pretty sure their kind live around here now

 Lor:

ug yeeeep

stretch, Dean, streeeeetch

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

mmmmmrf his fingers

 Mace:

YES

HURRY DEAN HUUURRRRRYYYYY

 Mace:

 ope there's that rebar again

 Lor:

OMG that damn rebar

 Lor:

LOLOL us

 Mace:

HAHAHA YES

 omg that smile Sammy gives him

 Lor:

the way he hits the cage when he finds out he's okay

 Mace:

YES

omg the "kiddo"

 Lor:

yes

 Mace:

 "but with people...they're just crazy" THERE IT IS

 Lor:

"with people, they're just crazy"

YES

 Lor:

oh jeez, I forgot about the photographs

 Mace:

 RIGHT?!

 Lor:

"Demons I get. People are crazy"

 Mace:

YEP.

He knows his world, not the real one

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

sings outSIDER

THE SAWING

NOPENOPENOPE

 Lor:

RIGHT?

and the music

 Mace:

yeah

and the feeling of nerves that Dean is in way more danger here than when in a monster's lair

just...UGH

 Lor:

RIGHT?

the eyebrows and then looking over at the dude

 Mace:

UGH THIS GIRL

YES

 Lor:

Right?

so creepy

 Mace:

 DEAN. You've got to keep your head on a swivel, honey

 Lor:

and the way he thinks she's a victim but we know she's not because of the previous scene with the sheriff and it just builds that fear in that moment of silence between them

 Mace:

yeah

you just know that place smells like old bacon grease and motor oil

 Lor:

"you're a sick puppy"

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

oh jeez

 Lor:

and blood

cause they ain't cleaning ANYTHING good

 Mace:

 yep

 Lor:

OMG leave my Dean alone

 Mace:

 RIGHT?! THIS IS AWFUL

 Lor:

it REALLY is

and it's... not fun?

 Mace:

NOPE

because it's too real

 Lor:

like, so much of what is awful on this show also has an element of just enjoying it?

this is not that

 Mace:

 yep

 Lor:

they don't take good care of their guns either tsk

 Mace:

HA!

they're made all the more despicable because they never fight fair - shooting the cabinet without opening it...

 Lor:

HA Sammy, nice

 Lor:

right?

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

they have no honor

I know that sounds like duh, but

they don't seem to value anything

 Mace:

 they're hunters who go against Hunter codes

 Lor:

yeah

they don't even seem to have their OWN code

 Mace:

 Hunters are always already in some ways like the monsters they hunt, but these are a distortion/corruption of that idea

 Lor:

YES

like, Sam and Dean have to square themselves with the fact she shot him in cold blood

 Mace:

 yeah, although it doesn't take long

 Lor:

no

but they have to think about it

 Mace:

 poor woman

 Lor:

oh Dean

 Mace:

 "I'm not looking for you" "sure you are"

 Lor:

"you vanish like that again, I'm not looking for you"

 Mace:

 HAHAHA the "you're getting rusty there, kiddo" again

 Lor:

and Sammy saying "you're getting rusty there, kiddo" to Dean

YES

 [after the episode ended:]

 Mace:

 welp, I'm not sad that that one's done

 Lor:

nope

 Mace:

 I don't think I ever want to watch it again, to be honest

 Lor:

it's a GOOD one, but yeah, I'm not sure I ever need to see it again

 Mace:

 yeah. it's too good at what it's doing. same reason I can't read Stephen King anymore

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Rewatching Scarecrow

Welcome to “Apple Pies and Fugly Guys: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s1e11: Scarecrow

  Sam and Dean take on a Norse myth/Jeepers Creepers mash-up in one of SPN's best and spookiest early episodes. A small town of a-holes charm a young couple every year and then feed them to the local apple orchard scarecrow god in exchange for general prosperity for the residents. Sam and Dean have a fight over John and his orders (shocking), and they break up for the first time, Sammy walking off in a huff toward California and John and Dean driving off in a tizzy toward Creepy Town. Dean saves this year's couple, but brings down the wrath of the townspeople on his own head and gets himself and a local young woman tied to a couple of apple trees instead. Meanwhile Sammy meets Meg for the first time (sigh) and almost follows her to California, but he gets the Brotherly Worries when Dean won't answer his phone and heads back to save Dean's butt. The locals get theirs in the end, the scarecrow gets his sacred tree charred, and the Cigarette Smoking Man gets away scot free, as per usual.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here.  Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

 Mace:

Oooh, I love this one. It's one of the scariest for me, but it really feels like an old-school horror movie and I LOVE that.

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

(and by old-school I mean 80s horror movies)

 Lor:

this was a VERY behind-the-couch one the first time. I handle it a little better now, but

 Mace:

I still get a little watch-through-my-fingers when the scarecrow is around

very Jeepers Creepers

Lor:

so the moral of SPN is that when your idiot boyfriend tries to get you to go somewhere freaky, you SHOULD FOLLOW YOUR INITIAL INSTINCT NOT TO

 Mace:

YEP

tl;dr: boyfriends are dumb

 Lor:

LOL

ug it is SO CREEPY

 Mace:

SO CREEPY

 Lor:

is the grainy picture on purpose, or just 2005?

because it is EFFECTIVE

 Mace:

(I'm on my laptop and I've made the window smallish, so I can't tell)

 Lor:

(ah)

 Mace:

and the orchard setting feels so remote and enclosed

 Lor:

YEP

aaaaaah, the shot of the empty stand for the scarecrow

  Mace:

Ugh, fuck you, John

 Lor:

UG

 Mace:

"are you hurt?" read: because if you're not FUCK YOU, DAD

 Lor:

YOU SON OF A BITCH

RIGHT?

 Mace:

Dean is UNHAPPY that he's not the one on the phone call

 Lor:

RIGHT?

Dean's "gimme the phone" and the hand

HIS FACE

 Mace:

Dean, put your hand down, buddy

DEAN

don't be grab-handsy

 Lor:

yeah, the grabby thing is annoying but god the CHARACTERIZATION

 Lor:

the "yes, sir" omg. SOMEONE GIVE THAT BOY SOME LOVE

 Mace:

YES and someone punch John in the throat pls

 Lor:

I nominate Cas

to throat punch John

 Mace:

well, I would argue that this obsessive hero worship of John is, in fact, super annoying

 Lor:

yeah, it is. but my "hold him" instinct overrides it. because I am DUMB

 Mace:

well, he's also HOT, so you get a pass

 Lor:

SNORK

oh good

 Lor:

oooo, Sam does NOT want to hear about how John is a master right now

 Mace:

YES

"he's given us an order" "I DON'T CARE" BOYS

(also, Team Sammy)

 Mace:

"it's called being a good son" oh, whoa, back that shit up, Dean

 Lor:

yeeeeah, they are doing the fraught dance again

 Mace:

oh right, this is when they break up for the first time

 Lor:

yep

 Mace:

Ooof, Sam telling him that's what he wants him to do and the look Dean gives him because Dean wants to be wanted

 Lor:

oooof, these two knuckleheads

 Mace:

YEP

 Lor:

YEEEEES

can't say they don't know how to hurt each other

 Mace:

exactly

history of cell phones, part 48795

 Lor:

haaaahahahahaha

I need a fanfic that explores who all of those contacts are

 Mace:

ha!

omg he gets called out on the stupid fake name!

 Lor:

YES

he should know better than to do that with a man of that generation, come on

 Mace:

snork

omg the snark

 Lor:

oh DEAN

I love him

 Mace:

oh UGH

 Lor:

oh it's MEG

... great

 Mace:

I forgot Meg was in this one

so Sammy clearly has nothing in that satchel

 Lor:

LOLOLOL

nice camo backpack, Sammy

 Mace:

what backpack

HAHAHAHA I'M HILARIOUS

 Lor:

lolololololol

 Mace:

Dean, you leave that meter on all the time, your batteries aren't gonna last long

 Lor:

SNORK

is okay, he shoplifted a new pack from that store

 Mace:

snork

 Lor:

how did that town not just adopt poor, adorable little Dean? I mean, creepy pagan god shit aside

 Mace:

well, that girl is gonna want to see more of him

 Lor:

of course she is

 Mace:

Dean, get away from the clearly evil scarecrow

 Lor:

"dude, you fugly"

 Mace:

AND DON'T CALL HIM FUGLY TO HIS FACE

Cripes

 Lor:

LOLOLOLOL

 Mace:

YOU PUT THAT LADDER BACK RIGHT NOW, MISTER

STOOOOOPPPP

 Lor:

man, now I want an apple

 Mace:

and I want an apple pie

 Mace:

gotta think bigger, Lor

 Lor:

LOL

 Lor:

STEAL HIS HAT

 Mace:

Dude, don't egg him on!

 Lor:

LOLOLOLOL

I enjoy our differing reactions to this

 Mace:

HA! YES

 Lor:

SHE KNOWS WHERE THE GAS TANK IS ON A 67 IMPALA

 Mace:

HA!

"oh there is - buy a car" THE SASS

 Lor:

"buy a car" YAAAAAS

"Jerry (pager)"

tell me this episode is 15 years old without telling me this episode is 15 years old

 Mace:

HAHAHAHA

yeah, no one's named Jerry anymore

 Lor:

LOLOLOLOLOLOL MACE

PIE

 Mace:

snork

YAS

omg Dean's face smile is SO GOOFY I LOVE IT

 Lor:

HE IS SO BRIGHT AND CUTE it's nonsense

 Mace:

YES

 Lor:

the way he's gathering this info and just going "yeeeeeah, this is bad"

 Mace:

right?

 Lor:

he's trying to caretake them into saving their lives. adorable

 Mace:

omg and the mention of Sammy, who WOULD in fact be better at this

 Lor:

awww, the comment about Sam

YES

oh, Dean

he knows EXACTLY why the sheriff is there

 Mace:

YEP

 Lor:

poor baby outsider

 Mace:

Yeah

double so since he's the wrong kind of outsider here - the one who knows what the shakedown is - they only want normal people as outsiders in the weird town

 Lor:

oooo YES

Sammy. You are smarter than this

 Mace:

he's vulnerable right now!

 Lor:

yeah

maybe you all should have listened to the sunshine boy in the diner

 Mace:

snork!

hm, the scarecrow would actually be scarier if he didn't grunt

 Lor:

HA! yep

 Lor:

see, now sunshine boy has to run off the scarecrow with his shotgun

Dean gets to be the smarty!

 Mace:

oh come on, he called Bobby we both know it

 Lor:

you MALIGN smarty!Dean? you question his ability to research the lore?

 Mace:

oh he can but he prefers not to

oh DEAN, spit it out

 Lor:

yeah

that was a nice little speech

 Mace:

Yeah

 Lor:

I have slept on a bus station floor. top 5 things I never want to do again

(there was NOT a Sam Winchester to hang out with)

 Mace:

(snork)

  Mace:

"who's that?" "what'd he say?" Bitch, you don't know him well enough for that

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Mace:

omg Cigarette Smoking Man! I forget he's in here every time

 Lor:

LOL

mrrrg the ring and the bracelet

 Mace:

Yeah

 Lor:

jeez. don't sucker punch our Dean with a rifle butt like that!

 Mace:

HA!

 Lor:

the way he refers to Dean as "the boy" jeez

 Mace:

Yeah

 Lor:

oh, see, now you've pissed Dean off

ya don't mistreat women and you don't betray your family

 Mace:

Yep

 Lor:

shut up, Meg

 Mace:

oh, honey, he won't choose you over Dean

 Lor:

right?

"which is, I dunno, classier, I guess?"

 Mace:

snork!

 Lor:

this aunt and uncle are SO DISTURBING

 Mace:

they are, and quoting Spock like that? Out of bounds, lady

 Lor:

and they clearly haven't watched Star Trek IV enough

HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 Mace:

"I'm working on it" HAHAHA

 Lor:

"I'm working on it"

oh Dean

 Mace:

"that's my boy" DEAN

 Lor:

YES

I've been wondering why he didn't just do that to get to CA

is it because he cares about Dean more than John? I'm gonna go with yes

 Mace:

well his moral threshold is higher than that

Dean means more to him than John by, like, a lot

 Lor:

yeah

 Mace:

"what scarecrow?" EEEEK

 Lor:

YES

serves you right Uncle Harvey or whatever

 Mace:

yep

I have about as much sympathy for the aunt and uncle here as I do for Umbridge with the centaurs

 Lor:

yeah

go Emily!

 Mace:

Yeah

 Lor:

the little wave

 Mace:

yeah

"and you're still a pain in the ass"

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

"hold me, Sam. that was beautiful" you little jerk, deflecting emotions (I love you)

 Mace:

healthy, Dean, very healthy

way to show your emotions

 Lor:

LOL

this little bit here was the moment the first time through where I was like "oh shit this is getting like dark and yikes"

and now I'm like "oh, sweet summer child"

 Mace:

Ooof, yeah, me too, and it's hard to remember that now

 Lor:

yep

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Rewatching Phantom Traveler

Welcome to “I Am Winchesters: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s1e4: Phantom Traveler

 A demon takes over a nervous flyer and then causes a plane to crash. A guy who works at the airfield is a people who was saved from a thing by John and Dean, so he calls Dean for help. The boys investigate, buy their first suits, almost get caught pretending to be Homeland Security, and in a last-ditch effort to keep the next plane from crashing, get on it to stop the demon before time’s up. Dean hums Metallica, Sam bungles some Latin, the lore is a little weird, and the boys save the day. Aaaaand it turns out John is alive and fine, or at least he was pretty recently because he’s changed his voicemail message to tell people to call Dean if they need help. (Fuck that guy sideways.)

Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here.  Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

Mace:

 helpful, dude, very helpful

 Lor:

 right?

those sound like TERRIBLE odds

Mace:

 plus, you know, gee, I never would have thought of that myself, you'RE A GENIUS

 Lor:

 lololol

 ooo, floaty black bits. probably fine

 Mace:

 yep, fine

 ugh

 Lor:

 yeeeeeah

 Mace:

 I am so scared of flying

 Lor:

 YEP

I hate it

 Mace:

 so this is not great for me

 Lor:

 holds you

 Mace:

 holds you back

 Lor:

 oh, but then we get this shot

 Mace:

 YAS

the belly sleeping

 Lor:

 YAAAAS

 Mace:

 when does that stop and for the love of god WHY does it stop

 Lor:

 we are GOING TO NOTICE this time when it stops

 Mace:

 YES

firm head nod

 Lor:

 lol

 Mace:

 prediction: it's correlative to the level of guilt Dean has about various things

 Lor:

 YEP

 ooof, here in the beginning, it is not Dean who is having the nightmares

 "not not really" LIAR

 Mace:

 belly sleeping = the sleep of the self-perceived innocent

 Lor:

 YEP

I also feel like that whole pan over the sleeping body with the ominous someone coming in the room casts him in a feminine role

 god the bedhead hedgehog hair

 Mace:

 huh interesting

 Lor:

 Dean's grin when the dude says he wouldn't be alive but for Dean and John

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

 dang, Homeland Security was new

 Mace:

 Homeland Security as something new

 HAHAHAHA

 Lor:

 MACE

 Mace:

 they're still using that light filter in this episode

 Lor:

 yep

 Mace:

 I've decided to call it The Freckle Enhancer

 Lor:

 HA. YES

 Mace:

 why the need for mispronouncing the name, I wonder?

 Lor:

 yeah, I wondered that too

 Mace:

 seems unnecessary unless there's a point

 Lor:

 what is that doing for anything?

 Mace:

 right?

 omg Dean's thinking face is so adorable

 Lor:

 YES

 Mace:

 Baby hood leaning!

 Lor:

 leaning over the top of Baby!

 Mace:

 HAHAHA OMG

 Lor:

 snork Us this episode, man

 Mace:

 right?

 Lor:

 Dean's adorable not yet super deep voice

 Mace:

 YES

 FIRST REAL SUITS

 Lor:

 YAAAAS

 "I hate this thing" you will grow to love it, DeanDean

 Mace:

 Dean Winchester, you do NOT hate that suit

You know you look good

 Lor:

 LOLOLOLOL

he likes to dress up in all the outfits and no one will tell me different

 Mace:

 is this kind of warehouse a real thing, I wonder, with the plane plan on the floor? because if it is thanks I HATE IT

 Lor:

 no idea

 my GENIUS ENGINEER

 Mace:

 Ha!

 Lor:

 gently smacks Sammy for making fun of it

 the plane things is creepy though

 Mace:

 dude, it's not like Dean didn't make fun of my Sammy for knowing stuff last time

hmph

 Lor:

 lolol. I DO apologize

 omg taking the suit jacket off

 Mace:

 apology accepted

 YES

he's had that suit two seconds and it already has barbed wired holes in it

tsk

 Lor:

 HA

better than in his lovely handses

 Mace:

 although the scars would be gorgeous

 Lor:

 THEY WOULD

 omg Sammy with his collar open like that

 Mace:

 omg SAMMY WITH THE COLLAR

 Lor:

 DUDE

 Mace:

 LOR

 although why does it look like that collar is from the 70s?

 Lor:

 because all the heroes in this show live perpetually in 1979

 Mace:

 snork

 Lor:

 as evidenced by their furniture and TVs

 oh NO, not a DEMON

 Mace:

 HAHAHA oh, such innocence

 omg Sammy's laptop has a tramp stamp

 Lor:

 lololololol

 Sam with the internet and Dean with the books. I love it

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

 it's not their normal gig

 Mace:

 sweet things, they'll learn

 Lor:

 YEP

 it's only kind of ironic. you can't go ten miles in PA without hitting a small town named after a Biblical place

 Mace:

 SNORK!

 Lor:

 lookit him, driving all fast

 Mace:

 ha!

 oh Dean, your bullshit skills need some work

 Lor:

 lol, poor Dean. thrown for a loop

rolling with it though

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

 "I KNOW" his face!

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

 WHAT could they possibly have in the trunk that would make it through security?

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA holy water?

 Lor:

 LOL

 Mace:

 omg he is ADORABLE

 Lor:

 he IS TOO ADORABLE

 "what are you nuts? you said it yourself, the plane's gonna crash"

 DON'T TELL ANXIOUS PEOPLE TO RELAX

 Mace:

 RIGHT?!

 omg the humming!

 Lor:

 YAAAAAS

he has anxiety coping strategies, I love him

 Mace:

 YES

 "dude I know, I'm not an idiot"

 Lor:

 "dude, I know, I'm not an idiot"

 Mace:

 (but sammy's a bit of one - it's not Christo but Christus)

 Lor:

 SNORK

 ( I am a bad person, because he is SO CUTE nervous)

 Mace:

 YES HE IS

 Dean is attracted to her strength and I love it

 Lor:

 YAAAAS

 "come on, that can't be normal"

dang, Sammy, don't pull out dom voice on your brother. that's not fair

 Mace:

 HAAAAAHAHAHAHA

 Lor:

 ...worked though

 Mace:

 "once and for all" well that mythology changes

 Lor:

 yep

 "I will if you will"

ADORABLE

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

 the Xfiles ref

 Mace:

 YES

 I mean. Christo is either the ablative or the dative, which technically is okay, I guess? But why would they say it in those cases and not either the nominative (christus) or the vocative (christe)? (JFC let it go, Mace)

 Lor:

 I LOVE YOU

 they are so EARNEST

 Mace:

 SQUISH

 THEY ARE

 thank you for tolerating my dead language pedantry

 Lor:

 tolerate, pish. i love your dead language pedantry

 whatever freaking magic mary poppins pockets Dean has in that jacket, I want em

 Mace:

 HAHAHA YES

 or maybe it's some church Latin nonsense? but if it ain't Ciceronian Latin IT AIN'T LATIN

 Lor:

  Mace:

 oh poor Sammy

 HAHAHA Dean screaming I LOVE HIM

 Lor:

 I'm not supposed to laugh at Dean's terror right?

 Mace:

 OMG HAHAHA

 Lor:

 lololol

 jeeeez, when he sticks his head through the curtains

I cannot

 Mace:

 YES

 on the surface it's hilarious that he's afraid of something so mundane when he faces all the insanely scary stuff he does, but it also makes sense because he knows how to deal with the monster stuff but can't control things if the plane goes down (which is why I'm so scared of them, too, to be honest)

 Lor:

 YES

 Mace:

 the little head nod at her "thank you"

sigh

 Lor:

 the whispered thank-you and his nod

hey, we almost chiasmused!

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA YAAASSS

 hugs you for your use of “chiasmus”

 Lor:

 lean on that car, Dean. you lean on it

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

 John, you mind-game playing little shit

 Mace:

 RIGHT?! useless putz

 Lor:

 oooof, Sammy

the both of them, really. reacting in different ways because they've been hurt differently by him

 Mace:

 exactly! 

[after the episode ended:]

Lor:

 this one always feels weird to me. like it doesn't fit with the rest of the show in some kind of weird way? maybe because they are on a plane? or maybe because the little mythology we get in this one is pretty much not what they use later?

 Mace:

 Agreed. the mythology bothers me a bit, plus it seems fish out of water - air travel is not liminal enough, setting-wise, for the show in general

 Lor:

 ooo, yes, good. I like that. I couldn't put my finger on why the plane part feels so wrong, but that's good

 Mace:

 although I do like that Dean does feel uncomfortable about it, which is on the nose

 Lor:

 Sam and Dean don't... do planes? like, it's too mainstream or something?

 YES

 Mace:

 he doesn't belong even in the airport and thus fumbles with his bullshitting and such

 Lor:

 YES

and they have no luggage (obviously). weirdly, they are exactly who TSA probably doesn't want on a plane? ticket at the last second, no luggage, acting squirrelly

 Mace:

 ooooh, good point

pairs nicely with the mention of the "new" homeland security

 Lor:

 yep

 Winchesters drive all night or maybe ride a Greyhound to do a trip in 36 hours that would take 4 on a plane. they don't fly

 Mace:

 I am Winchesters

 Lor:

 I am usually also Winchesters

I will get on a plane, but I'm very unhappy about it

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Rewatching Hook Man

Welcome to “We Root for the Bad Guys: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s1e7: Hook Man

 Sam and Dean come up against an (the?) actual manifestation of the Hook Man legend when they investigate the violent death of a dudebro who, honestly, kind of deserved it. Another person gets hooked and the boys start suspecting there's a connection to dudebro's girlfriend and her super-strict pastor father. They're... almost right. Dudebro's girlfriend gives a lesson on what not to do if a cute boy is hanging around outside your house at night, stalker-style (thank goodness Cute Boy is just Sammy). There's a quality Winchesters in a Library scene, with a Dean with a Pen Cap in His Mouth bonus.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here.  Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

  [and we begin:]

  Lor:

aw, Jensen is still saying "previously on Supernatural." I wonder when that stops

 Mace:

Ha! I never even notice

 Lor:

lol

Mace:

"there's a hot chic buried somewhere in there" fuck you, bad friend

 Lor:

Laurie looks lovely exactly the way she's dressed

RIGHT?

 Mace:

YES SHE DOES

DUDE SHE SAID NO

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Mace:

Come on, hook dude, take care of this douche

Lor:

LOLOLOL

routing for the bad guys

look, douchecanoe, in addition to "no means no and only yes means yes," you gotta learn that when the woman says "let's get out of here," YOU SHOULD GET OUT OF THERE

 Mace:

Ha, yep. There's this whole thing now about how villains in movies are becoming too relatable and script writers feel the need to make them do something really unforgivable even if it's out of character just to redirect the audience back to the idea that they are, in fact, the bad guys. It's... not exactly wrong...

 Lor:

yep

 Mace:

FRANCES

 Lor:

lol

 Mace:

Dean's not saying "Dad doesn't want to be found" INTERESTING

 Lor:

Yeah

 Lor:

and what are YOU drinking, Dean?

 Mace:

he's... liking the new dynamic of he and Sammy and no judgmental Dad, maybe?

not that he would admit that to himself out loud

 Lor:

ooo, YEP

LOLOLOL Sam and Dean as fraternity brothers

 Mace:

omg Sammy actually paints the dude

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Mace:

Adorable

 Lor:

and Dean isn't exactly not looking, despite refusing to do it himself

 Mace:

Hm

 Lor:

lol, Dean letting the church door slam shut

 Mace:

YES

Cas cringes in heaven

 Lor:

SNORK

 Mace:

I love her hair pulled back like that

she's adorable

 Lor:

agreed it looks so lovely

"young people who are open to the lord's message" the way some of this stuff hits when you know where the show ends up going

 Mace:

RIGHT?!

 Lor:

Dean blowing the dust off the box and his little "thanks"

 Mace:

YES

Oh Dean, honey, that's not really what college is like

 Lor:

LOL

he never got to find out, poor lamb

  Mace:

was that a Ghostbusters reference?

 Lor:

was it? I missed it

 Mace:

I think Dean called Sammy Dr Venkman

 Lor:

aaaah

omg the Avril Lavigne poster

 Mace:

HAHAHAHA I was just about to type that exact thing

 Lor:

LOL

 Mace:

I love all the little things that date these early episodes, especially the clothes - those nearly-too-little blazers and the low ride chinos

 Lor:

YES

it's like getting smacked in the face with college and masters degree school

 Mace:

Ha!

 Mace:

the first mention of salt shells!

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

"he had the gun" DEAN

 Mace:

HAHAHA

 Lor:

aaaah, nope nope nope behind the couch behind the cooooouch

 Mace:

oof yeah, this is very ew

 Lor:

this is one of those bits that scared the BEJESUS out of me and made me sleep with lights on when I was an impressionable, tiny 25-year-old

 Mace:

Ha! I'm okay unless it's a haunted house

"well you look like a dumbass pledge"

DEAN WINCHESTER

 Lor:

SNORK

and Dean is Matlock? Dean is a white-haired old man?

 Mace:

OMG DEAN stop thinking about naked pillow fights and FOCUS

 Lor:

lolololol Dean, pay attention, goober

 Mace:

he really REALLY doesn't have a clear idea of what college is like

 Lor:

nope

lol, falling in through the window

this sneaking around and ducking behind things makes them look so tiny

 Mace:

well, Dean at least. Sam looks like a Moose trying to hide behind a pencil

 Lor:

HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 Mace:

omg their separate views of college I LOVE IT

 Lor:

YES

and Sam's little nod when Dean describes what he thinks it was like for Sam

 Mace:

YES

 Lor:

omg his little pout

 Mace:

omg Dean's disappointment

 Mace:

YES

 Lor:

"next time I get to watch the cute girl's house"

ooo, one of my most favorite shots is coming up

 Mace:

ooooo

yes, it's always a great idea to go out and talk to the dude you barely know and seems to be stalking you outside your house

 Lor:

RIGHT?

aaaww, Sammy. so adorable

 Mace:

but yes he is adorable

 Lor:

I mean, SHE doesn't know he's sweet and adorable

 Mace:

(I think she has an inkling about his adorableness)

ope there it is, yeah?

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

the match?

 Lor:

Dean holding the match

LOVE IT

 Mace:

YES

 Lor:

oh gross, preacher dad

I forgot about that piece of it

 Mace:

omg Sam's face is very "um I have no idea how to deal with this information"

"AM UNCOMFORTABLE"

 Lor:

yeah

 Mace:

Ooooh, yeah, she clearly is aware of the Sam Cuteness

 Lor:

YEP

still probably not the swiftest move

 Mace:

what, you mean, "my boyfriend and roommate were just killed, let's snog" isn't smooth?

 Lor:

LOLOLOL

I'm also just amused that she's all "gonna go talk to the strange boy stalking my house" and then it turns out he in fact has a bag full of guns at his feet

 Mace:

HAHAHAHA YES

omg Dean's goofy smile

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

"HEY, BROTHER"

 Lor:

"hey, brother!"

 Mace:

my god these boys are pretty

Lor:

RIGHT?

 Mace:

I should be listening to their explication but somehow I'm... distracted

 Lor:

naaah

eeeee, talking at the same time

 Mace:

PEN CAP

 Mace:

Ha!

 Lor:

YAAAAAS

and the RING

 Mace:

YES

 Lor:

sigh

I'm gonna need them to go back and do some more filming and give me more shots of Dean lounging with his feet up and a book on his lap

 Mace:

Ha!

avenging angels, eh?

 Lor:

oooo, avenging angels

 Mace:

Interesting

 Lor:

LOL

poor Sam. like, how do I comfort this girl when she's RIGHT?

 Mace:

YES

Mace:

Dean's over-the-shoulder look

 Lor:

YES

the way they SHOOT these. and the LINES of the shots

 Mace:

Yeah

 Lor:

"oh, don't worry, we're leaving town" poor boys

 Mace:

Yep

 Lor:

always with the "get out of town"

 Mace:

sing off key Ooooouutsiiiiiiderrrrrs*

 Lor:

YES

"we could stay"

 Mace:

Dean's willing to stay for Sammy though

so sweet

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

(I think he knows it's a safe offer, though)

 Lor:

(yeah)

(kind of putting the nail in the idea from the previous ep with the whole "you can't have friends" thing. Sam's learned it now)

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