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pog-the-frog · 5 years

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komatsujo replied to your post:Kung-food AU where everything’s the same but...

Uh. It’s (sadly) not that uncommon that people don’t teach their children their native languages so that they “fit in” better. Ex: my father grew up not knowing any Spanish despite it being his parents’ native language. My coworkers don’t teach their children Arabic. Also the Chinese is probably because the Miraculous being based there tbh.

That's why I made a point of mentioning that it would be in character for Marinette to learn Chinese on her own whether or not her mother wanted to teach her so they would have something to bond over.

adrien being taught Chinese because of the miraculous being based in china would imply Gabriel wanted Adrien involved with the miraculous in some way wich hes never alluded to, and its kind of implied origins was his 1st time transforming so I doubt he was knowledgable or invested enough in the miraculous to have the forethought of teaching Adrien Chinese.

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pog-the-frog · 5 years

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Kung-food AU where everything’s the same but Adrien’s low-key racist

Sort of an Au I guess but I Headcannon that Kung-food was almost entirely from Adrian's perspective.

like you can't expect me to believe that Marinette doesn't know Chinese, let alone ANYTHING about Chinese culture, her mother clearly heavily values her heritage, she exclusively wears Chinese clothing, kept her last name when married etc, and they expect me to believe Marinette, the person who goes out of her way to please everyone around her, who gives 100% to everything she does and excels in virtually everything she does, didn't at any point in her life asks her mother about her culture, didn't see how happy her mother surely would have been to share her culture with her daughter?

even if her mother never pushed to teach her Chinese, Marinette is consistently characterized as going above and beyond to make the people she cares about happy, there's no way Marinette wouldn't have learned Chinese weather from her mother, a teacher/online corse or just self-taught with a Chinese to french dictionary, but she absolutely would have immersed herself in something that made her mother happy and brought them closer together.

I'm also not entirely sure just WHY Adrien know Chinese like I get his father wanted him to get the best education witch means multiple languages but why Chinese? like even if we assume he also takes English lessons and the Chinese are only of note because they're extracurricular outside of what's basically supposed to be his lessons to mirror formal education like maths/science/English like normal french schooling provides it still doesn't really give reason for why Chinese, its not really an overly useful language to learn for anything related to fashion (you'd figure hed learn Italian or something) or general business.

so I basically imagine this episode starts with Marinette calling Alya nervous, not because she can't speak Chinese but because this is her 1st meeting with anyone from her mothers side of the family and she's desperate to make a good impression, Alya who due to constantly being exposed to Marinettes more panicky/accident prone side sort of just tunes Marinette out and just assumes her rambling is due to what to Alya is the most likely/obvious problem; not knowing Chinese and calls Adrien over to help.

after Adrien arrives to a flustered Marinette and her uncle he acts on all the knowledge he's been given (that Marinette's uncle is Chinese and Marinette can't speak any Chinese and needs a translator) and immediately sets about helping his friend and playing translator both for language and cultural differences.

marinette now doubly flustered from wanting to make a good impression ob her uncle and being around her crush on top of having the misunderstanding that brought him there in the 1st place needing resolving Marinette spends the entire trip to the hotel unable to get the words out to clear thing up.

when at the hotel she has Cloe to deal with and thus no time to explain she does, in fact, know Chinese and that Adrien constantly trying to educate her on Chinese culture while sweet in intention is in fact kinda insulting and offensive since she's half Chinese herself and more knowledgeable on Chinese culture and language having grown up with it than some random french boy who takes 1 Chinese class a week is.

adrien does honestly come across as one of those people whos try to correct a Japanese person on there culture or pronunciation of a Japanese word because he saw/heard differently in an anime (Adrien would, of course, be doing so with nothing but good intentions) since arguably Adrien biggest consistent character flaw is his lack of perspective (Cloe is his friend and is nicer to him so people need to see the good in her, Lilas lies aren't an immediate problem so no one should out her, he has fun as chat noir so ladybug needs to lighten up and enjoy herself regardless of how much more pressure shes under) I really doubt Adrien would really think anyone would know better about there own culture than he does if in his mind he's right about a specific fact no matter where he got the knowledge or who he’s correcting.

so I imagine the series of events playing out more along the lines of Marinette desperately trying to play mediator between her uncle and her crush whos constantly being low-key being racist towards both herself and her uncle , and her uncle being rather stiff and short-spoken due to the fact he and his niece were being insulted by some random kid and he couldn't say anything because Marinette clearly liked the boy and he was obviously not trying to be offensive.

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pog-the-frog · 5 years

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I’m not arguing that the lack of suit diversity is due to either laziness or just budget constraints but it makes complete in character sense for the girls (other than Alya) costumes to just be patterned spandex suits.

when Marinette and Adrien 1st used there miraculous it was with VERY different mindsets and intentions, Adrien was far more concerned with how cool getting powers/being a superhero was and the subsequent freedom it would allow him, meanwhile Marinette was concerned with the responsibility of having to stop a supervillain and save people.

so chats costume comes out with superfluous wrist things, a bell on his neck and a belt tail big boots and zips etc all over a leather costume, reflecting what he thought was cool, etc.

marinette whos only real thought at the time was the responsibility of stopping the villain ends up with s full-body spandex suit with a ladybug pattern, no superfluous extras, nothing beyond covering her body and doing its job of evoking two things superheroes (the staple of whom’s costumes is spandex), and ladybugs her theme, practical just like how she tries to present herself as ladybug.

and of course all of Marinettes costumes when using other miraculous would be similarly low-key, its a well-established character trait that she tries to keep her role as ladybug professional and that its a duty, not something she does for fun.

Marinettes consume as lady noir even demonstrates how she views using the black cat miraculous as less of a responsibility than the ladybug, those bits of green piping are DECORATION, they don't aid her in any way, they don't help evoke the imagery of a cat, they don't have any practical application, she didn't need them on her costume but there they are because its CHATS miraculous and he doesn't have to be responsible.

cloe being a huge ladybug fangirl and not seeming to be someone who would have any real interest in superheroes pre-ladybug would, of course, model her costume after her idol, the person she's trying to emulate and impress.

I don't really get the impression that Kagami had any real interest in superheroes before or after becoming one so it would make sense that she just basically went “ok dragon-themed version of ladybug” when transforming, altho since we honestly get so little of Kagamis character it would have been a good opportunity to have a much more interesting design and we haven't been shown enough of her character for really anything to be particularly out of character, so while her design isn't really an issue it is a wasted opportunity.

alya is the real problem, she was established pre-series as a huge superhero nerd, who prior to ladybug showing up was really into majestia, who from what I can tell was basically a Wonderwoman/fem superman Expy, so it would have made sense for Alya to have a more intricate/flamboyant costume since she has a long-standing preconception on what a superhero should be, and assuming majestia is anything like WW/SM who are supposed to be very visible, statuesque, and symbols both symbolically and physically, so the idea that Alyas costume was so plain doesn't really make any sense.

so no while it would be nice to have more interesting female costumes it is absolutely not a problem that all the girls emulate someone whos costume design came second to the responsibility of saving people.

(this whole post relies on the fact that they're costumes are subconsciously chosen by them like I think austuc tweeted about once still being cannon)

it’s lazy as fuck that all the teen girls have the exact same outfit style with some added decor like a tail while the guys get to have detailed clothes

like yes, it’s pretty obvious that chat noir and carapace have similar body builds but their outfits are far more distinct (the boots aren’t identical, the actual detailing on chat noir’s wrists and chest vs carapace’s) and hawk moth gets to wear an actual fucking suit with dress shoes

meanwhile all the girls effectively have the same bodysuit and are gonna kick some villain in the face with the miraculous equivalent of flats??? (or heels in chloe’s case)

i don’t care if the excuse is “it’s easier to reuse the same body model and slap a different texture on the mesh” considering they’re totally fine modelling unique designs for the guys. it’s lazy.

(Edit: Check under the cut for redesigns people have added to this post!)

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