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#He would've been labeled a heretic and probably killed
kingarise · 2 years
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For Dadverse Lucette, if you don’t mind: What is a secret she has that nobody knows?
OOOOoooo what a beautiful ask to return to
The answer would probably most likely seriously damage her rep in Anor Londo and probably even make Artorias a bit mad or disappointed with her.
Lucette doesn't actually really like the slaughter of dragons and wyverns, drakes, etc. She can tolerate and maybe even enjoy hearing stories of the battles against the Everlasting Dragons, because in the end, those were battles. But hearing about the hunting and purposeful extinction of dragons and destruction of their nests makes her sad and feel ill. She doesn't like it.
(Context for this next bit: I hc that Anor Londo will do gladiator-esque matches between captured wyverns and other draconic creatures and soldiers and other warriors as entertainment. It's seen as a big sport with a lot of risk but warriors who slay the creatures gain a lot of prestige in the eyes of society and wealth. )
Once, when Lucette was around 12 or 13 years old, Artorias took her to the equivalent of the Coliseum to watch a match between a Silver Knight and a wyvern. She absolutely hated it. She tried to stick it out for her dad, but every time the wyvern cried out in pain, it got harder. Until finally she gave up and poor girl just started crying right then and there. Which did cause poor Artorias to panic a bit because Lucette is not the type of child to just randomly burst into tears. So he took her home and never took her back again.
Don't get her started on trophies like their heads and horns and stuff like that. That makes her extremely uncomfortable.
Now as to why she doesn't like this stuff, there are two reasons.
Artorias has always taught her to respect life, even of animals and that they are not inferior to their own.
Her bio parents. When he was alive, Her bio father was in a religion that worshipped fire and that extended to creatures that could create fire. Like dragons. Now for obvious reasons, this religion was heavily looked down upon and had to be kept and practiced in secret. And because kids are historically known for being terrible at keeping secrets, Lucette was never fully inducted or shown this religion. However, her dad did tell her old stories and legends from his religion, so she wasn't completely oblivious. Even though her bio family is long gone, she still remembers the old stories and keeps them close to her chest.
She just can't bring herself to completely and utterly despise dragons and their descendants like the rest of her people do. Lucette fundamentally has a soft and gentle heart. Especially for creatures. Even for the most frightening of beasts.
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thunderon · 2 years
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This has probably been debated to death but I'm curious what you think.
What if there wasn't an unhinged Lyctor at Canaan House and everyone wasn't murdered: Who would've actually gone through with becoming a Lyctor?
We already know that Harrow had to be forced and that Ianthe didn't hesitate lol
i dunno whether or not other people have hashed this out but i do have feelings on this! (in case you want an Official Author Answer, tamsyn muir answered pretty much this exact question here) but im glad to throw in my thoughts as well! for the purposes of this post, im defining “becoming a Lyctor” as imperfect lyctorhood (aka necro snacks on cav for eternal go-go juice)
house by house let’s do it:
2nd: so let’s start with a direct quote from judith:
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…. those are not the words of a necromancer who would be willing to kill their cavalier. additionally the way judith refuses corona’s offer in ayu makes me HIGHLY doubt she’d do this to marta. verdict: would not
3rd: so obvs ianthe wouldnt hesitate for babs (cuz who cares about babs, after all) BUT let’s make this interesting. what if it was her and corona? i could easily imagine a situation mirroring augustine and alfred where her hand is forced by corona. i don’t think ianthe would choose to become a lyctor with corona but i could see her turning out like augustine and mercy where they unwillingly consumed their cavs. ianthe would, however, become a lyctor with babs any day of the week and twice on sundays. verdict: would
4th: I just absolutely cannot see isaac doing that to jeannemary. just. cannot. but if in some twisted way he were about to do it, abigail would show up and put a stop to that nonsense with a firm “absolutely not”. verdict: would not
5th: abigail already skews heretical. in the gtn cohort files she’s labeled as leaning towards and anti-empire in htn she starts questioning god and house beliefs a bit more... combine that with the fact that magnus is too damn lovable i don’t think she’d murder him. verdict: would not
6th: alright pal time!
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yeaaaah that’s basically a canon no. verdict: would not
7th: we have significantly less time with pro and dulcinea than our other pairs so it’s a little tougher to point to exact quotes on this one. we’ll call it a gut feeling, and ill say she wouldn’t. just doesn’t have the personality i think. verdict: would not
8th: so after finding out what lyctorhood is, silas brands ianthe a heretic and tries to kill her and he also says this:
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i went a little more in depth about it here but ultimately it’s a sin to silas and he explicitly rejected the concept in gtn. verdict: would not
and obviously we know the ninth! anyways those are my personal thoughts on the matter! thanks for asking :)
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