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#I’ve had some moonshine ngl
max--phillips · 3 years
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Thots on moonshine? A new distillery opened up in my town and they have some BOMBASS flavors-chocolate raspberry, iced coffee, bloody mary, and sweet potato pie👌🏻
I’m ngl I’ve never had it so I don’t know fjrbfjdbfjdbsj I’ve heard one of two things: drinking it is like drinking hellfire, or it fucking slaps because it tastes exactly like whatever flavor they put in it. Because I am a weenie, I’m a little scared to try it tbejfjebfjdbns
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Screw it
LAOFT from someone who’s never read the main story
100% of my knowledge of LAOFT comes from askes of @tulipscomeinallsortsofcolors that I read and the one-shots I’ve read. Some of it will be right. Most of it will be wrong. Hopefully all of it is a hilarious, sleep-deprived mess.
Since there’s a good chance I’ve got at least a few bits of plot right there are some spoilers herein so beware weary traveler who really should just skip past this mess of a post.
Sleep-deprivation baby let’s go.
The basics:
Setting: Wickhills
Creepy fae town
I think it’s based in Ohio. Maybe. Probably. idk
Tho if you came here for exacts buddy oh boy I have bad news for you
I digress
I think the description of the first part says smth about the people not minding having their things stolen
Except for uh I think her name’s May Gage
Ro’s Mom?
I think
NO WAIT
Description has to do with Dot Sanders
Mum of Lo and Tho
Will talk about them later but I just had to get that straight first
Even tho there’s, like, nothing straight in this AU
I think the main plot problems arise, originally, due to miscommunication
Or lack of communication
All I know is in the drunk history of Wickhills that I barely remember there was a mention of them not communicating and that basically dooming them
And y’all... lots going on around here
Lots
So uh we’re jumping into characters now here I go
Virgil Lastnamesmth: 
No I don’t know his last name and no I’m not going to learn it just for this post
It’s Lastnamesmth now deal with it
I think he’s Spider King
Or smth like that
He rules the forest
After he gets out of his magic coma
He’s in that for a long time tho
100 years I think?
And uh I think Durant did it to him but we’ll talk about the devil in a snake suit later
He got put in a protective coffin by... I want to say Greta but ngl I know nothing about Greta. 
She may be one of Vi’s sisters
He has a LOT of siblings actually
Many are spider sisters I think
And I think Elliot and Thomas are also his siblings in a way
Maybe
idk
Again don’t trust what you read when it comes from me peeps
But he’s super powerful
And I think he’s in the winter court
Whatever that means
I know courts exist for the seasons, and I’m reasonably sure Virgil’s is Winter, but that’s about it
He has magic but I don’t think he used it in any of the one-shots I read so what do I know
Well he does in one
That one where Logan gives his full name
That one was good I quite liked it
Well actually they’re all good I like all the ones I read
Back to Virgil
Hates parties which is a mood
He has to host them tho
Being Spider King is cool other than that bit I gather
And the part where the court gossips about you but oh well I suppose
I believe he’s autistic too
Or at least written with a lot of autistic traits
Is that how you say it? Autistic traits sounds wrong
Can fae be autistic? Or just like it?
Y’know what fuck it fae can be autistic and the only one allowed to @ me about that is the author screw off haters
I think the rest of what I have to say can live in the misc section
NEXT CHARACTER
Roman Gage:
I’d like to start with I love him and every time I think about what little I know of his backstory I want to cry
idk how he ended up in an abusive relationship but I know he did
And he’s such a good boi
He doesn’t DESERVE IT GODSDAMNIT
Only Vi would get me this emotionally invested in characters I only sorta know I swear
So yeah
Current Ro still has some problems with that
For very obvious reasons
And yet!
He is a gentleman and a knight and a champion and a prince
Yes that is a direct reference at that one one-shot shhh
His family is also one of witches right
He has a familiar 
Tis a cat named Dizzy
I only know about Dizzy from like one fic tho so that’s all I can say about her
Dizzy can talk too in case that wasn’t clear
He made a potion in the microwave despite knowing that he probably shouldn’t and I think that’s a good summary of his character
I think he found Virgil first
At the very least he did find Virgil
He’s a human who found a hot dude in a glass case crawling with creepy crawlies and thought ‘ah yes the perfect place to spend all my time’
Sounds legit I’m sure
I don’t know how this lead to him in a bad place with the motherfucker also called the Serpent King
But it did
But in the end he got glass coffin boy and two others so at least he’s got that going for him
We move on once more!
Patton Uh what’s Remy’s last name again I think it’s that:
Or it isn’t
I said it before I’ll say it again:
Looking up info for this defeats the point
Deal with my horrible misinformation
He got a gift from White!
I believe this is because his Mum saved her or something
The problem?
Uh
The gift is also a curse
Because while it’s incredibly written that’s the cliché folks
People have to do what ever he ‘orders’
Basically anything that techincally demands something from the other
Including things like ‘stop’ which is like one-hit KO murder word
Patton had a nightmare about that
That was a fun one-shot
Though if you could just like kill people on accident I guess I’d have nightmares ‘bout it too
He’s the other human of the trio plus one
No I don’t remember the word for a group of four people and no I’m not going to look it up
A Professional Cuddler according to that one fic where the description’s like ‘Patton thinks he’s got the best seat in the house’ or whatever
There’s one fic where Emile help him put make-up on
Wowsers
That fic was fun to read because he flustered ALL his bfs
No question
What else what else
I think he’s got a bodyguard
Named... Bell???
Maybe???
Okay I think that’s most of my Pat knowledge
ONWARDS
Logan (Berry) Sanders:
Yes adding the Berry was very important
It’s a huge part of that name fic
And I like it so
Deal with it
He’s a fae
I believe a changling to be exact
And a selkie
He’s... spring court...?
He was replaced for Thomas in typical Changling fashion
But then Thomas came back (I think Dot got Tho back idk) and suddenly he had a brother
He has nature magic of some form
But his best power is his flower power
He can’t control it and I love it so much
I don’t even KNOW what each type of flower appearing means 9 out of 10 times but that doesn’t make me any less happy about it
*Sigh*
I wish I sprouted flowers at random...
I think he’s also autistic
He and Virgil occasionally bond over that it’s sweet
Like with the painted nails tap tap tapping
Or the singing walls
I know something happened to him
Something relating to something stupid Ro did
I think that’s the stupid thing that got Ro forced to be with the dick that is Deceit in this
But I honestly don’t know what happened to Logan
Hmph
He can be a nervous boi
That fic where he tried to say I love you with his notecards?
Love that one
...Twenty-five percent of this is just me randomly complimenting Vi’s one-shots ain’t it
Huh
Oh well
No regrets
I just realized I use ‘Vi’ for Violet and Virgil interchangeably
That may be problematic but screw off if you think I’m going to change anything
That’s too much effort
BACK TO LOGAN
He has a honey problem from that one fic I read
Where he gets real sappy about his bfs to Thomas
Not like a bad problem
Just a ‘maybe he should stop drinking it if he wants to pretend he has dignity’ problem
Okey-dokie I’m moving on to his bro now
Thomas (Bug) Sanders:
Lo’s incredible brother
And when I say incredible I mean it
Very nice
Will squish Logan when needed
Actually will squish anyone when needed
He has a Squish Instinct
Also has Brother Instinct and no it’s not the Cain Instinct
It’s the opposite
Will Fight if you try to hurt Lo from what I can tell
I think he also had a monster in his head
The monster has a longer name but I can’t spell it so I won’t try
This fact is based on One (1) one-shot where he has a weird freak out
That’s also the fic I base my belief that he’s somehow Virgil’s brother on
But no promises
The fic starts with italics and bolded lines interchanging
I don’t remember the name tho
If you haven’t already figured out I’m not going to look it up you’re even more sleep-deprived then I am
But yeah Thomas is great
Teases Lo about his crushes like a good bro
Helps Lo when he’s panicking or freaking out or something
Even when Lo’s at college
I don’t know as much about Tho so let’s leave it there
Onto the Monster
Durant (is that his name idk) Monsterunworthyoflove: 
His last name is Monsterunworthyoflove because that’s what he is
I know almost nothing about him actually
They call him ‘he’ a lot because I think trigger reasons
But honestly he also doesn’t deserve to have his name spoken
He was the Snake King
Maybe Serpent King 
Eh idc
I believe he put Virgil in magic coma to rule as King
I think they were brothers but idk
HE SUCKS
I think he’s dead
I wish I knew how or by who’s hand but he is
He got a coffin in the ground which I think if unfair
Let the worms devour his flesh and let me make his bones into my furniture
I am a part of the Kill Durant Again squad only because I missed my chance to kill him first
Like I said I know little about him
But he put the abusive in Roman’s abusive relationship so honestly fuck him to Hell and back and then do it again for good measure
Every time I read a scene with Ro being uncomfy because of him
I want to strangle him
I fucking mime the motions
Violet honestly props on making such a hate-able character
I could talk about him more because I do know a few other things
But honestly the fact he’s not real and my dream to choke him slowly is therefore impossible makes my skin crawl
I hate him so much it’s not healthy so we’re moving on
To minor characters!
Minor Characters:
As in characters I know very little about
I guess they could be vital characters
REMY
MY BOI
I know he’s a classic badboy who will die if Emile kisses him and I love him
Also he’s super smart with his moonshine and I’m so proud
I love him so so so so much and I barely know him
Good job Violet you wrote him well and I love you
Emile is also great
Remy has protected him for wearing skirts because Rem’s a good boy and he’s RIGHT
Emile feels bad for treating Patton bad in the past I think
Hence that one make-up session
Emile also crushes on Remy hard the remile in this AU is on point man
Elliot exists
I think they’re Virgil’s sibling. Somehow. Maybe
I read one one-shot that focused on their relationship with Vi and that’s all I know about them
Mawmaw (Mamaw? mawma? I’mma just call her May. If she’s May. I think she’s May) is Ro’s Mom.
Also a witch I think
Really tough but she cares
Dot is super nice
She’s Lo and Tho’s Mum I think
I don’t remember the one-shots with her in them well but she’s always sweet
Okay there’s this one character who’s name starts with an E
I think she’s Logan biological mom
Logan cut a knot he had with her or smth
Apparently she’s awful and Vi would kill her but it would have a bad mental effect on Ro for... some reason
he got pale when the idea was brought up idk
I would have thrown her in forever prison if I couldn’t kill her but that’s just me
She placed a curse on Lo that stopped him from leaving Wickhills I think
Or smth
Lo broke the curse tho so what does it matter
Linda is the LAMP’s daughter??? I think???
I... haven’t actually read the fics she’s in so idk
But people really seem to love her so that’s neat
Out of minor characters so we progress to my fav part about the series
Gay bois:
Aka the LAMP gang
They’re so gay guys
The gayest gays
I like to think I can write decent gays
But these???????
They barely have to look at each other before they’re dead, murdered, killed by the mere beauty of one of the others
I LIVE FOR IT
In the one-shots I’ve read they’re either completely 100% fluffy gays
Or gays helping each other with one Trauma or another
But they still end up gay-ing over each other in the end
and the KISSING
as an aroace I generally find kisses meh or ew
But these gays
All they want to do is kiss
Sometimes it’s tender and sweet and loving
More often than not tho the kisses are like
‘If one of you didn’t manage to barely hold onto a brain cell throughout the gay you’d be fucking in public’
I am repulsed to write that sentence but it’s TRUE
...I think
Note: idek the difference between passionate but just passionate kisses and passionate about to get steamy kisses
Because you know
aroace
But the main point:
I find kisses meh
But these gays very clearly illustrate how beautiful kisses can be and I think that’s wonderful
Also I just generally love LAMP and this is good good LAMP A++ Vi
They’re so gay and loving and protective of each other
They really deserved their own category
Onto the final section
Misc:
Aka stuff that doesn’t fit in the other sections and/or stuff that did fit in the other sections but I forgot about it and am too lazy to put where it belongs
I realize now that Remy and Pat do not have the same last name
They’re not brothers (I don’t think......)
Does Pat’s last name start with a W?
That sounds right
Fug me if I know what Rem’s last name is tho
Where do they all live
I thought only Vi lived in fae land
But I think Pat may live there too
But Lo lives in non-fae land???
idk
Also fae land is called fairyland and I can’t tell if that’s it’s actual name or the name one of the Bois gave it jokinly
Because if fairyland is it’s serious name, that’s hilarious
No shade Violet I’m just easily amused
Y’know I always forget how young these bois are
Then I remember Lo’s not even 18 by the time the after main plot one-shots come in to play
So like
Damn son they young
I feel double bad for all of them
Triple bad for Ro- the Serpent King’s head will be mine I swEAR
I think Ro’s been a knight twice
Tho if you ask me he’s only been a knight once
Because I refuse to associate him in any way to the dick that is Durant if I can help it so he’s only ever been Vi’s knight suck it
Apparently like almost all of Wickhills hate the Sander bois
Probably the LAMP crew too idk
What I mean to say is despite how desperate I want to live there a lot of Wickhills’s residents are jerkwads
I think I saw a post where Lo can do photosynthesis and idk if it’s a shitpost or not but in this mess of a post I have decided it is canon
Mainly because that’s cool and I would like to do photosynthesis
A new one-shot I didn’t read has sparked a lot of askes about a Matt
I believe this man to be Pat’s father
But I can make no promises as to the accuracy of this belief
Did Linda come out of a tree?
idk why but I feel like she did
That’s weird man
How do you come out of a tree
(me @ me: ‘you could... you could read the fic and find out’
So turns out I can shut the hell up
I am a bitch who understands nothing)
And I have ONCE MORE gotten off track oof
My favorite part of reading LAOFT is all the fae knowledge I learn
Really has sparked my interest in fae
Even if I’ll never know enough to do anything with it asfsdfb
Plus apparently Vi just sprinkles in her own fae lore here and there
Which is super cool
But also means if I tried to write something I’m quite sure someone would be like ‘umm this isn’t true’ and I would feel played
Also what is up with Vi and Lo and rainfall
In that one fic where they hide in a tree and Logan senses a raindrop
His skin breaks open and sews itself together????
wtf????
So confusion
But hey guess whose bitch’s fault that is
*finger guns at a mirror*
ELDRITCH MONSTORITY
That’s not at ALL how you spell it but that’s it that’s the thing that was in Thomas’s head
Go me for remembering it
Fae land has a lot of customs and I know very few of them
Tho I do adore that one Flirt fic
Poor poor Virgil
Oh yeah Logan can make these super cool bushes
I know he used one rose bush when fighting someone who’s name started with a Mrs/Miss
Yes I know the first name wasn’t actually Mrs/Miss
But all I know of her name is Mrs/Miss something
And he used another bush against some idiot of a fae who grabbed Patton
By the way go protective Lo go
Like they can all get crazy protective of each other and I LIVE for it
ROMAN HAD HIS MEMORIES SPLIT UP??????
I mean I knew about a Night Roman and a Day Roman but I thought that was
like
a metaphor 
Like Roman acted differently during the night because he was stuck with a monster whom I shall revive simply to kill again
And he was trying to be separate from that person??
Or something like that
But NOPE
Serpent King is a Bastard of a being and I would happily crush his wind pipe beneath my foot
I hope the most amusing part of this sleep-drunk post is my different names for Durant the Dead Bitch because I am having fun insulting him
Okay listen peeps that is not even CLOSE to everything about this series but I wrote this over a couple of days, and my memory of what has been written and hasn’t been written is nonexistent, and if you think I’m rereading this to edit, you’re a fool (no offense) so like. We’re just gonna do a wrap-up summary and call it good.
Summary: Gay fae messes who should figure out the value of communication get themselves in a LOT of shit because of their lack of said communication.
Also, final apologies to Violet, because LAOFT has incredibly deep, rich, intricate lore and my response to this lore is to grossly misrepresent it and also write this while I’m in the constant state of being sleep-deprived, and more or less acting like I’m drunk or smth
So uh. I hope this was amusing.
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★ have you seen [ MARNI VANROSS ] since the storm? some say they look like [ zoey deutch ] but they’re [ 21 ]  & go by [ THE SKEPTIC ]. [ she’s ] lived in halloway for [ 12 years ] & they are originally from [ LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA]. before the town vanished they were studying [ astronomy ] and lived at [ UNI BLVD ]. most people knew the [ CISFEMALE ] as [ + INTELLIGENT ] but i’ve heard they can also be [ - COLD ]. for some reason, they feel [ uneasy ] about the town’s disappearance. ( pepper, twenty three, s he/her, est )
ABOUT THE MUN.  what is that? that freaky thing? yes, that’s right, it’s a naked mole rat.
hello all, my name is pepper and what you’re about to see is about to be peak mediocrity. i am usually pretty decent at intros but i really have spent most of today watching love island, and i just spent the past two hours watching pilot pete make horrible decisions, so my brain is officially mush. that said i am going to do my best to make this coherent. to start, a bit about me, i am a taurus. i like trash tv. i’m really craving chicken fingers. i have never met a plate of nachos i didn’t like, and if i could be anything other than a human person i’d be a cloud i think. alright onto the good stuff. 
BIO. *has my feelings surgically removed*
first of all here is her pinterest board (keep in mind marni was kind of the skully inspired muse in a scooby doo rp so that’s why stuff looks a bit spooky)
marni was brought into the world into a weird situation by anyone’s standards, but especially by hers. to start, both her parents were hippies. yes, weed smoking, chakra cleansing, organic grown kale that they got from the farmer’s market where the only store clerk walked around with her tits proudly out, hippies. but they weren’t just any hippies, they were rich hippies. and that somehow made it worse. 
clint ‘storm’ vanross and clementine vanross were the proud owners and entrepreneurs of a whole food organic grocery store (think whole foods or trader joe’s), and clemetine later went on to ride the success of their company to create her own website and brand (think goop basically. yes, marni’s mother has sold a candle that smells like her vagina, and yes marni is deeply ashamed of it). both businesses were wildly successful, and so clem and storm quickly went from living and travelling the world in their van to having about six mansions across the world. marni came into their life as their first child around the time they bought mansion two. she was born with a silver spoon in her mouth, but that spoon’s handle was made of moon quartz and the silver was organically sourced. 
from there on out marni was raised in a weird way. you’d think because hippies were all about free love, that marni would be raised with an abundance of it but that wasn’t exactly the case. her parents were all about giving marni her aunotomy fairly early in life, which sounds good, but really means that marni was simply treated as an adult from the moment she could walk by herself. and she was the adult really. after all, marni was the one who had to convince her parents to enroll her in school (they were determined to let the world be her teacher, and marni simply wasn’t having any of it), the one who had to fix her own meals when all that was left in their fridge was raw tofu, the one who had to clean up her mother’s vomit whenever she went a bit to hard on the moonshine. yes, marni had parents, but she also had forty-something year old children in boho chic attire.
and marni’s parents never understood it. after all, with the way they were they could never understand how their genetics combined to make such a serious girl. one who would look at the moon and not just admire it, but ask how it stayed up there in the first place. how far away was it? how could she get there? and when told to simply enjoy and love it for what it was, would instead march herself to the library and find out the answers herself. marni’s parents and her truly never saw eye to eye, and at a certain point marni stopped trying to. she wasn’t expecting her parents to follow suit, but follow suit they did. marni’s parents gave up on trying to understand her her around the time she was nine. that’s when she moved to halloway, or rather, that’s when they moved her to halloway. 
they said it was because of business. the fact was, marni’s parents had been marching her around the world, from state to state and country to country whenver they wanted to start up a new store or run down a new story. yes, sometimes they would leave her (alone, in an empty house, with only the occasional eccentric ‘aunt’ or ‘uncle’ to come by and make sure marni wasn’t dead) for a while for short business trips (the longest being about two weeks) but they always came back eventually. but this was different. her parents set her up in halloway with a nanny named paola, and then they left for the foreseeable future. her mother, to go down to africa to chase a story. her father, to go down to europe and expand the business. they both promised to be back within a month, and they were. but then they left again. and again. and again. 
but it was fine. marni and paola got along great. she learned very quickly how to forge her parents signature on school forms. she didn’t need them. she didn’t miss them. but she did desperately want them to want her, and it took marni a long time to realize they just didn’t. 
marni was the new girl for a while. she struggled a bit to make friends as the little girl who got more excited by science experiments than barbies. the one who was always the first to raise her hand in class, and the one with the famous parents. most of the kids didn’t know who the vanross’ were but the parents did. and having the occassion adult come up to marni and tell her how they just loved her mother’s zuchini bread recipe, or the all organic popcorn they sold at her father’s store was just... weird. and other kids found it weird too. marni struggled for a while, and was picked on quite a lot but what was she to do other than accept it? all that marni had in her arsenal were facts and scathing words, and mean kids didn’t usually tend to let those stop them. 
eventually marni grew up. she went to high school. skipped prom. remained fairly anonymous other than becoming president of the chemistry club, valedictorian and being known as the girl known for making friends with her teachers. she got accepted to harvard and yale for university, but not knowing if it was because of her own accomplishments (which were countless) or because of her parents, she refused them both and decided to stay in halloway. to go to university here. to try and make her own way. 
honestly in university marni’s life was similarly uneventful because for the most part she was the quiet type that went to class, went home, and back. she didn’t cause any stir unless you could hear the occasional scathing comment murmured under her breath, or you were a neighbour who marni was screaming at to keep it down. she didn’t even attend a single party unless coerced. she was nobody, and honestly that was how marni liked it. she had never been one for the spotlight. she genuinely preferred to be more behind the scenes, unless there was a need to rise to the occasion. 
and then all of this happened y’all. it really went to shit huh. marni is terrified honestly and she just wants to know what’s going on. a lot of people who barely know who she is have probably seen her speaking up and asking questions and getting almost frenzied in her attempt to find the truth because the mystery of all this is driving her insane. no she doesn’t miss her parents particularly, but she does miss what the world used to be and she wants to go back to that, desperately, but she also really just wants to know. like if marni understood what was happening here or even just played a part in future generations understanding, and she was literally still never able to get back... honestly she could still die pretty happy i’m ngl.
PERSONALITY. *eyes snap open at 3:52am* nobody likes me
blunt. painfully painfully blunt, god. if marni thinks you’re an idiot she will tell you to your face, she really does not care and that absolutely will get her into trouble one day
painfully curious! wants to know what’s happening with this whole situation, god desperately wants to know the truth and mechanics behind it. 
cold honestly?? like marni doesn’t know how to comfort people really, she was never really taught how. she isn’t very compassionate, she’s genuinely more on the logical side. will give you the most rational answer even if it does sound kinda of cruel
the voice of reason! the person in your friend group who is the designated driver. also the person in your friend group who would say ‘i told you so’
an overachiever. lives for academic acknowledgement, like those little gold stars on your papers in elementary school are what kept marni going man. huge ass nerd. huge ass bookwarm. 
super stubborn. refuses to even entertain the idea of anything magical happening here, and is honestly kind of judgmental of people who think that way because of her parents like marni has very little respect for any hippies i’m not gonna lie 
skeptical as hell but we been knew 
a know it all! think she’s right about everything !! she usually is but still !!
does not know what to do with emotion. has had a couple, and does not recommend it. would rather die than admit to a feeling. 
trust issues galore! does not trust literally anyone ever. if marni trusts you than you’re truly special
HEADCANNONS. it takes me 3-7 business days to process my feelings
has never learnt to ride a bike cause her parents never taught her rip
loves the smell of books
laughs at horror movies generally. the kind of person who is really hard to scare. 
was raised a vegan but loves eating meat. stress eats meat when she’s truly like anxious, and so is really bummed about the dwindling meat supply for more reasons than one. 
needs coffee to survive, so the rationing has got her going a bit crazy even though she knows it’s necessary. 
has never really gotten truly drunk. 
keeps a detailed journal about all of her thoughts about all of this and takes meticulous notes. 
is left handed. 
can shoot a gun and does have one on her person pretty much at all times. i headcannon that her nanny paola taught her to shoot, and marni isn’t strong at all but she’s a pretty good shot. it’s the only way she has to defend herself honestly. 
is redheaded/strawberry blonde zoey and redheaded/strawberry blonde zoey ONLY
bi as hell!
WANTED CONNECTIONS. baby’s first words are ‘i’m not here to make friends’
i really am too lazy to make a whole ass sexy list rn and i apologize sjsdjjdf but !!! best friends, friends, confidantes, someone who used to drag her to parties, someone who used to pick on her, someone who used to defend her, flings, exes (marni is a horrible gf and she probably DIPPED the moment she started to feel something so give it to me folks), crushes she used to have in high school or middle school or elementary school, people who had crushes on her in high school or middle school or elementary school, current crushes on either end, enemy (just someone she butts heads with man!), old academic rivals, partner in crime in trying to figure this shit out, someone who hates her man, sibling like relationship, a girl squad, someone who tries to get her to loosen up, someone who is really chill and okay with the current situation who marni just wants to strangle with her bare hands!!! and anything else your heart desires okay, thank you for listening to me ramble ilu already. 
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