#and the wildest thing is like. if he really wanted debt relief legislation. why the fuck did he not just bribe a tribune

[catilinas]

Do you support Catilina in the catiline conspiracy? Like, team Cicero or team Catiline bc honestly Catiline is so #problematic :// #OTemporaOMores

Hopeful regards, a Cicero stan

i think cicero and catilina should kiss actually

#/j #hashtag lucius sergius catilina has done nothing wrong in his life ever #also treason is sexy so even if he did. yeah #AND YET i do love cicero as a historical figure! and YET you are sending this ask to me tumblr user Catilinas. like. #serious answer is actually that i dont think the catilinarian conspiracy was actually real :/ #or not in the way cicero claims it was. the 'catilinarian' 'conspiracy' #there was a whole bunch of things going on. general unrest. gaius manlius vibing in etruria w sullan veterans #but also stuff was still going on unresolved from the social war! and also the debt crisis! various vaguely related things #happening all over italy and cicero was like Well Obviously This Is All Because Of That One Guy Who Has Failed To Be Elected Like Three #Entire Times By Now #honestly i think catilina had no idea what he was doing. like what was his plan. get elected but also burn down rome? #abolish debt...... in the city he was allegedly going to burn down?????? #the wild thing is that in like. the first catilinarian. cicero compares him to e.g. tiberius gracchus and saturninus as would-be destroyers #of the republic. but the gracchi / saturninus / drusus also had like. coherent plans. they Knew what they wanted to do w rome #catilina seemed to have had zero Actual Longterm Plans other than like. abolish debt + maybe get a sexy proconsular province #and the wildest thing is like. if he really wanted debt relief legislation. why the fuck did he not just bribe a tribune #catiline is SO weird to me as a rare 'popularis' who had absolutely nothing to do w the tribunate Ever #dare i say sullacore?????? #anyway. off topic but if you had not guessed. he is my blorbo. but yea catiline did nothing wrong hashtag team catilina #horrible horrible catiline. wow! #beeps