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#but it bugs me so much how grace can kiss men and be shown post sex with a man and there are entire episodes around her going into dates
transromanticism · 4 years
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bro i'm really tired of getting into smth that looks lgbt inclusive/positive but at the end of the day aren't 😔
#this is about will & grace and lovecraft country mainly#but also about so much more#like i got into w&g for the gay shit and even tho it's '99 it's great really#and i love the jokes and i love how will's always shown interested in men and wanting a bf and etc just like grace#but it bugs me so much how grace can kiss men and be shown post sex with a man and there are entire episodes around her going into dates#while will only has some throw away line about how he hooked up with a guy here and there#and we never even see anything like it even if he's already gone on some dates by s2#like i'm excited for when will starts to actually get male partners but i'm tired and don't expect much from it#and i didn't actually expect that much from lovecraft country#i didn't get into the show thinkinh it would touch the subject#but then they did ep5 with montrose and i was happy tbh#it wasn't perfect but it was cool i liked it#but then it's dropped and it feels like what happened was forgotten by the characters#and everything we have in relation to montrose's gayness for the rest of the series is in form of homophobia#which i fucking understand i'm not dumb but i'm also tired so so tired#and then spoilers ruby and christina kissed and i really wanted that but i never even dreamed of it actually happening#but it happened and i got excited for a sec bc even tho i know christina is a bad person and that was a complicated relationship i liked it#but then they sex scene is not even shown#like christina asks if ruby has done 'it' with a woman and ruby says no and then it cuts and just#even the flashback to ruby trying to get the vial doesn't show neither of them in some post sex fashion#and like this show has multiple times shown gratuitous het sex scenes to us#a lot of scenes between ruby and christina as william#and the only fucking time we get a lesbian sex scene it's off screen?#and then one of the characters is then killed off?#like goddamnit#i'm fucking tired#idk why i still have hope but i do#edu.txt
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Thoughts on S02E04
Owen was absolutely intolerable this episode. He really does have great hair though.
I love seeing Marjan being a badass on the rink and the four guys there to cheer her on. We don’t usually get to see women in TV dramas play sport and have the men cheer them on. It was cool. And so aggressive.
I think I like the arranged marriage storyline here. I mean, it’s not the best storyline they could have given her. But as Marjan points out, it is a very common practice in a lot of countries and cultures and a show with so much diversity should show diverse cultures. I appreciate that it was shown in a positive light. It’s not something that Marjan resents or feels oppressed by, she defended it because she believes in it and the positive aspects of it were nicely contrasted with the disaster of the wedding they attended.
That wedding scene was actually so gross.
It’s really jarring to see some people at the wedding wearing masks and remembering that the pandemic is happening in this world too. Especially after just seeing everybody at the derby with zero mask wearing or social distancing. Are the 126 anti-maskers?
If they don’t want to depict the pandemic, just pretend it’s over or it never happened. I mean, we’re all pretending that Austin is sitting on top of an active volcano and life is just continuing as normal. We can pretend the pandemic is over too.
Carlos has also followed his father into law enforcement. It’s interesting that both Carlos and TK have followed their father’s career paths. But while TK has followed his father’s path so closely they work in the same firehouse, Carlos has opted for a different branch. There’s a meta post there about TK’s need to be close to his father and Carlos’ need for distance from his.
The timing in this episode bugs me. Carlos and TK are at the farmer’s market in the middle of the day, cut to Marjan and Salim at the restuarant at night, cut back to Carlos and TK getting back from the farmer’s market to have their fight. What were they doing all day? How long does it take to drive home from the farmer’s market?
Carlos being uncomfortable introducing TK to his parents even though he’s out is really sad and I’m annoyed at TK for shouting at him, even though I think his feelings are valid too. It’s a pretty common issue for lots of LGBT+ people that even when they’re out it can be very difficult to be out around family, and as a gay person, it feels like TK should be a little more understanding of somebody being caught by surprise and introducing their partner as a friend.
Just because they’re both gay does not mean that they have had the same experiences growing up. I think TK forgets his privilege - he grew up in Manhattan, with liberal parents, he has always worked with his dad, and the 126 were handpicked by Owen as part of a diversity drive. I’ve no doubt he’s experienced prejudice, but nothing like Carlos would have as a gay Latino in Texas. As with Marjan, there are differences in their cultures and experiences.
Owen and Gwyn absolutely sucked at listening to TK and giving him advice. Thank goodness he’s in therapy and has learned how to communicate his feelings from a professional because his parents suck. It’s actually sad. The relationship between Owen and TK was so lovely in season one, but now Owen is completely focused on Gwen and Gwen might has well be his second wife for all the relationship she has with TK. I mean when she showed up at the station in the middle of their shift, TK was right there and they didn’t even acknowledge each other.
I just really love the relationship between Marjan, Paul and Mateo.
Marjan literally grinding an axe - perfection.
NOTHING phases Grace. Scorpions, guy choking in his dead friend’s ashes, guy in a gun case, Imp - she just rolls with it. The scene with the imp was amazing. I love that the rest of the call center operatives all listened in and then just went back to work. Like yeah, it’s a weird one but we get weird ones all the time here.
YOU LOOK AT BABY CARROTS WITH ENVY!! Nothing can ever top that line.
Thank you, your Grace. That was amazing. I DIDN’T FEEL A THING. Perfection.
Judd is the holder of Owen’s single brain cell.
Carlos and TK have such lovely chemistry. Massive kudos to Rafael and Ronen for how they portray their relationship.
I loved the talk between them. Communication is so sexy.
It’s not like I demand to see them kissing (especially in the midst of a pandemic) but if that had been a straight couple there would have been a kiss. All the straight couples have kissed. We know at least one other Tarlos kiss that was filmed and then cut. There should have been a kiss at that point.
Carlos’s hands are so big. I’ve never noticed that before.
The lyrics of the song when Marjan is walking down the hotel hallway is “for you”. I heard “fuck you” and I had to google it because I thought I was losing my mind.
Where Marjan’s storyline for this episode feels like it has wrapped up and complete, Carlos’s story doesn't and it’s something that will play out in future episodes.
I did not see the pregnancy plot coming. It’s not going to end well, is it? Lisa Edelstein isn’t going to stick around Lone Star forever. At some point she’s going to leave. Worst case scenario she dies and Owen becomes a single father to a baby. (Best case scenario, she returns to New York and Owen goes with her. TK stays with Carlos. Judd takes over as Captain.) Most likely scenario, the baby doesn’t make it. It plays into Owen’s belief that he’s invincible but those around him get hurt.
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